* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [*This meeting was joined in progress*] [00:00:06] THIS IS SECOND. THE PUBLIC [Case No. 7-25] THAT HASN'T BEEN HEARD YET IS GONNA BE HEARD. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS, UM, LAST, IN THE LAST MONTH FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. UM, THIRD, UM, WE HAVE THE MEMBERS ASKING QUESTIONS, UH, USUALLY TO THE PETITIONER. AND THEN FOURTH, THE, UH, PETITIONER WILL HAVE LIKE A SUMMATION AND A CHANCE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE HIS SAY ABOUT THE CASE. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE MOTIONS. OKAY. JUST LIKE LAST TIME. SO, UM, CAN ALICIA OR ALICIA'S LAWYER OR ARCHITECT COME, UM, UP TO THE, ALSO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, YOU HAVE TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE, JUST WANNA LET THE GO AHEAD KNOW THAT THE MAILINGS ARE IN ORDER. MAILS ARE, THE MAIL ARE IN ORDERS. THANK YOU, CHARLES. MM-HMM. NO PROBLEM. UM, THERE USED TO BE LIKE A CONNECTION FOR MAX. OH, I HAVE TO GET YOU IT. OKAY. DO YOU GUYS HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE AGENDA AND WHEN I SHOULD EXPECT TO GO? DO YOU GUYS HAVE A WORD YET THAT'S BEEN REVISED? EXCUSE ME. JUST WANNA GET A SENSE OF WHERE I AM ON THE LIST OF THE PROJECT, IF THAT'S OKAY. IT'S NUMBER TWO. NUMBER TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THREE. NO, THREE. WELL, THREE. NO, NO. TWO. YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ONE S TWO, TWO. YEAH. BUT WHEN IS, WHEN IS UM, MIKE GOING? 'CAUSE OH, MIKE, YOU'RE GOING LAST NUMBER THREE. I'M GOING LAST. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT HE ASKING. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING THINGS ROUND UP. UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO GET STARTED? JUST WITH KIND OF EXPLANATION? YOU NEED THIS RIGHT NOW. UM, WHY DON'T YOU WAIT LIKE A MINUTE OR TWO. RICHARD HAD THIS CASE. IT'S A CHANCE FOR RICHARD TO COME TOO. DON'T WORRY. OKAY. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. ANYTIME YOU'RE READY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. OKAY. UM, SO MY NAME IS ADELINA CASTRO. I, I AM THE ARCHITECT FOR ALITO AND WILLIAM MASSEY, WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF 180 4 ROSEDALE AVE. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO WHAT THEY WANNA DO IS THEY WANNA BUILD A VESTIBULE, WHICH IS THIS MAGENTA AREA HERE, UM, FOR THEIR FRONT ENTRY. AND I'M GONNA ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN SEE BETTER. UM, SO THE, THE HOUSE, WHICH IS THIS DARK BLACK LINE HERE, UM, IS AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING. IT HAS AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING, UH, CONDITION IN WHICH THAT IT SETS, IT'S IN THE, UH, NORTH SIDE YARD. THE VESTIBULE THAT WE'RE ADDING WILL BE ALSO BE WITHIN THAT NORTH SIDE YARD. SO THE SETBACK LINE IS THIS BLUE DASH LINE HERE, AND, UM, A PORTION OF THAT VESTIBULE WILL BE WITHIN THE SIDE YARD. SO THE AREA, THE AREA VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, YOU KNOW, UM, RESIDING WITHIN THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. UM, THAT BECAUSE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, WE'RE ADDING ONTO THE FAR, THE EXISTING FAR, UM, IS HIGH, IS, UM, SLIGHTLY OVER, UH, THE MAXIMUM. AND THIS VESTIBULE WOULD ADD ON JUST A HAIR MORE. UM, SO I'LL GET INTO THE NUMBERS THERE AS WELL. UM, AND ALSO WE ARE ALTERING AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING CONDITION. SO, UM, THE VESTIBULE IS ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF FEET WIDE, FOUR FOOT TWO, UM, IN DEPTH. AND ABOUT NINE SQUARE FEET OF THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, NON-CONFORMING. IT'S ABOUT TWO FEET STICKS, IT ABOUT TWO FEET INTO THE SIDE [00:05:01] YARD. UM, IN TERMS OF THE FAR, FOR A LOT THIS SIZE, THE MAXIMUM SHOULD BE 0.485. AND THE EXISTING CONDITION RIGHT NOW IS 0.493. SO 0.008 OVER, AND WHAT WE'RE ADDING ON IS GONNA INCREASE THAT ANOTHER 0.007. UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY WE ENDED UP HERE IN THIS CORNER. UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE DOOR TO, TO THE MAIN HOUSE IS HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THE VESTIBULE THERE. WE DID CONSIDER SHIFTING IT DOWN, UH, TO THE TWO FEET SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON THE SETBACK LINE. UM, BUT THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T LIKE, LIKE ABOUT THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST, FIRSTLY, AS YOU CAN TELL THIS IS THIS IS, UM, A PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. THE EXISTING PORCH IS DEFINED BY THESE THREE BAYS. AND SO WE FELT KEEPING IT IN THE CORNER AND KIND OF KEEPING IT WITHIN ONE OF THE BAYS MADE MORE SENSE AESTHETICALLY. AND ALSO YOU COULD TELL, YOU COULD SEE YOU GO UP THE STAIRS AND THEN YOU COME IN THROUGH THAT BAY. AND IT JUST MADE MORE SENSE TO KEEP THOSE ALIGNED, TO KEEP CIRCULATION A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT. IF WE MOVED IT DOWN THE VESTIBULE, OBVIOUSLY THE VESTIBULE DOOR WOULD MOVE WITH IT. AND SO AS YOU'RE COM YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COMING OFF OF THAT LANDING, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TURN TO GO INTO THE FRONT DOOR. IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE, UH, FOR EFFICIENT CIRCULATION AND APPROACH. UM, ALSO IF YOU MOVED IT DOWN, UM, YOU CREATE THE SORT OF DEAD SPACE HERE, YOU KNOW, THE OWNERS WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT DEAD SPACE BE USABLE SPACE. SO IF IT, IF WE KIND OF MOVED EVERYTHING OVER TO THE CORNER, THIS PORCH REMAINS NICE AND FREE AND OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LEFT WITH DEAD SPACE. UM, AND THEN, UM, WHAT ELSE CAN I TELL YOU? UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KEEPING IT SET BACK, SET WITHIN THE PORCH PERIMETER SO WE'RE NOT GOING BEYOND THE BOUNDS OF THE PERIMETER OF THE PORCH. SO WE FELT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ADVERSELY AFFECTING NEIGHBORS. WE'RE NOT, UM, AFFECTING ANYTHING. WE MAKING THE FOOTPRINT, THE EXISTING NONCONFORMING FOOTPRINT ANY GREATER. SO WE FELT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UM, NOT TOO MUCH OF AN ASK TO, TO, UH, TO PUSH IT INTO THE SIDE YARD HERE AND, AND THEREFORE CREATING THESE VARIANCES REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS? WAS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC EITHER IN WRITING OR PHONE CALLS OR HERE TONIGHT WE GOT NO NOTIFICATIONS. MR. CHAIRMAN, ANYBODY HERE? NO. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NOT FOR ME. NOT ME. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. WE DO IT. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS DOWN THERE? YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. IT WAS A VERY CLEAR, UM, PRESENTATION THAT WENT THROUGH ALL THE FIVE FACTORS, SO THANK YOU. UM, DO I A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER SEVEN DASH 25 ALYSSA HURTADO, 1 41 84 ROSEDALE AVENUE RELIEF FROM STRICT APPLICATION OF VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH 69 F1 C WITH 2 95 DASH 55 A AND 2 95 DASH 53.1 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ENTRANCE VESTIBULE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? I FIVE ZIP. THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. AND [Case No. 8-25] THE NEXT CASE IS THE CASE NUMBER EIGHT DASH 25. CHRISTINA, MAD JEW, 2 0 8 FERRIGAN AVENUE. SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL SPADE. I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR MS. MATT YITZ. IT'S GOOD PRACTICE TO PRONUNCIATE. UM, HOW, HOW'D I, DO YOU CLOSE? THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S, MAYBE THAT'S IT. FOUR OR FIVE MORE TIMES AND WE'LL HAVE IT DOWN. OH, THANK YOU. I I DO HAVE IT ON MY LAPTOP, SO YEAH, I CAN TRY THAT. MY LAPTOP'S BEEN A LITTLE SLOW, SO LET'S, NOW WE'RE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. I HAVE A MAC AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR, AND WE'LL JUST SEE THAT IT PICKS IT UP. [00:10:02] THERE WE GO. REDUCED IT. DID YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS? I DON'T KNOW IF I REMEMBER FOR MY, MY OWN ADDRESS OR THE PROPERTY? NO, YOUR OWN MINE OWN IS 12 BORT ROAD IN CHAPPAQUA. OKAY. WELCOME TO . THANK YOU. UH, THE PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TWO, UH, 2 0 8 FARRAGUT AVENUE. UM, MS. VIC, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS ELDERLY AND CURRENTLY THERE'S A VERY SMALL, UH, STOOP AS IT WERE. UH, FRONT PORCH, UH, TO GET IN THE HOUSE. UH, STEEP SET OF STAIRS, UH, HARDLY IS FOUR FEET. IT'S A FOUR FOOT DEEP BY FIVE FOOT WIDE LANDING, UH, STORM DOOR THAT HAS TO OPEN OUT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THE FRONT DOOR. SO SHE HAS GREAT DIFFICULTY WORKING AROUND THOSE CONDITIONS. SO THE, UH, PROPOSAL IS TO BUILD A BIGGER FRONT PORCH WITH A ROOF OVER IT. AND THEN THE CURRENT, UH, PORCH HAS STEPS DOWN TO THE SIDE. AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THOSE ARE STEEP. SO SHE'D LIKE TO DO STEPS TOWARDS THE FRONT, A WIDER SET OF STEP STEPS AND A MORE GENTLE PACE TO THEM. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE FIVE FOOT WIDE, FOUR FOOT DEEP EXISTING PORCH WITH A 10 FOOT WIDE BY SIX FOOT DEEP PORCH. AND THEN SIX STEPS OUT FROM THAT TOWARDS THE FRONT. UH, THE, UH, CURRENT HOUSE IS 25.2 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. THE, UH, SETBACK, FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS 25. THE ROOF, UH, FOR THE PORCH IS THE PIVOTAL, UH, MEASUREMENT POINT. UH, THAT ROOF IS, UH, WILL BE SEVEN FEET OUT. SO WE NEED ESSENTIALLY A SEVEN FOOT VARIANCE TO THE 18 FOOT DIMENSION THAT WILL BE THE FACE OF THE ROOF. UM, THE ALL OTHER PARAMETERS OF THE, UH, PROPERTY WERE COMPLIANT WITH FAR DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE. THE HOUSE DOES ALSO ENCROACH ON EXISTING ENCROACHMENT ON THE TWO SIDE YARDS. SO THOSE ARE PREEXISTING NONCONFORMING, BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THOSE. SO THE ONLY, UH, VARIANCE WE NEED IS FOR THE, THE FRONT PORCH AND FOR THE FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT. THAT'S THE SIMPLE PRESENTATION. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE HOUSE OR NEIGHBORS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE. OKAY. SO THE PUBLIC, DO YOU SAY YOU HAVE LETTERS? WE HAVE NOTHING. DO YOU WANT TO, HOW MANY LETTERS DO YOU HAVE? LEMME JUST DOUBLE CHECK REAL QUICK. HOW MANY LETTERS DO YOU HAVE FROM THE NEIGHBORS? MYSELF, NONE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE 'EM WITH YOU TODAY? I HAVE NONE. NO. SORRY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMUNICATIONS, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. SO ANY QUESTIONS? JUST ONE THAT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE CURB, THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF SPACE HERE. THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? IT'S CORRECT. ALL OF THE, ALMOST ALL THE, ALL HOUSES ARE ABOUT AT THAT 25 FOOT SETBACK FACE. SO ANY ONES THAT HAVE PORCHES AND ROOFS ARE ALL ENCROACHING, BUT YEAH. YEAH. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR OTHER KINDS OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE INTO THAT FRONT SETBACK. I THINK YOUR DIGITAL PRESERVATION, YOU HAD SOME OF THE, UM, CONTEXTUAL PHOTOS. YEAH, THE, THE, I CAN PUT THIS UP. VILLAGE RIGHT AWAY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUITE, VERY WIDE. IT'S QUITE LARGE. YEAH. RIGHT. 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S 10 OR 12 FEET OF DRIVEWAY BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE IN ADDITION TO THE 25 FEET. YEAH. HERE'S THE EXISTING HOUSE. MM-HMM. YEAH. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT, A HOUSE TO THE RIGHT, UH, ARE ALL IN THAT SAME PLANE. AND SO ALL HAVE, AND, AND I THINK THE UM, PROPERTY LINE IS ABOUT SEVEN FEET OR SO INSIDE OF A SIDEWALK. SO THERE'S A GOOD 10 FEET BETWEEN PROPERTY LINE AND STREET CURB AS IT WERE. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED SOMETHING THERE. . I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT PICTURE. AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER PICTURES SHOW SIMILAR PORCHES ON NEIGHBORING HOUSES. CORRECT. OKAY. DO YOU WANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THOSE? COULDN'T HURT. OKAY. BUT I THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, I THINK, I THINK IN GENERAL THIS IS A REASONABLE PROPOSAL. THE HOUSE TO THE RIGHT, WE ACTUALLY ARE JUST COMPLETING THAT. WE WERE THE ARCHITECTS FOR THAT MORE SIGNIFICANT RENOVATION, BUT VERY SIMILAR PORCH UH, SOLUTION. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION I CAN MAKE THAT? DID YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIR? EXCUSE ME? DID YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIR? YEAH, I DID. I JUST SAID, IS ANYBODY HERE? NOBODY'S HERE. NO LETTERS. NO NOTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I CAN MAKE ONE IF YOU'D LIKE. GO AHEAD. UM, UH, I MOVED TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, IN CASE NUMBER 8 25 2 0 8 [00:15:01] FARGATE AVENUE. UH, MOVE TO APPROVE RELIEF FROM THE STRIP APPLICATION OF THE VILLAGE. SONY CODE, UM, FOR FRONT YARD SETBACK EXISTING IS 25.2, PROPOSED AS 18 REQUIRED AS 25. SO THE VARIANCE REQUIRED WOULD BE SEVEN FEET. I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? PROOF. AYE. APPROVE. ALRIGHT. FIVE Z. THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK. ONE QUESTION JUST 'CAUSE I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UH, THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE VARIANCE TO GET THE PERMIT, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT TO THE, TO THE VARIANCE? OR? THE VARIANCE IS GOOD FOR A YEAR. FOR A YEAR? OKAY. MM-HMM . GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE, HAVE A GOOD EVENING. HAVE FUN. ALRIGHT, SO NEXT, UH, BEFORE WE START ON THE LAST CASE, UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO, UM, HAVE ADVICE [Case No. 14-24] OF COUNSEL. OKAY. SO GO AHEAD. WE WON'T BE LONG A WRITER ON THIS THING OF AN ARCHITECTURAL LAWYER. NO, I WAS LITERALLY LIKE, OKAY, THAT WASN'T TOO LONG. LIKE I PROMISED I'VE BEEN IN LONGER WHEN I WAS A TRUSTEE, I MEAN, WE'D BE IN THERE FOR LIKE AN HOUR. IT WAS RIDICULOUS, BUT I COULDN'T CONTROL IT BECAUSE THE MAYOR DID. SO BEFORE WE, UH, WE KIND OF LEFT OFF WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO, TO TELL EVERYBODY WHAT OUR FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS ARE, WERE ON THE FIVE FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, IN OUR OWN MINDS TO DECIDE WHETHER TO GRANT OR NOT GRANT THE VARIANCES. UM, AND UH, THEN WE GOT OFF TRACK A LITTLE BIT AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, SIDE YARD SETBACK. UM, AND, UM, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD ASKED TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY AND THEN HAVE SOME TIME TO, UM, THINK ABOUT IT AND HOW WOULD SHE WORD IT. SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND IT IS WHAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO. UM, AND WE DID A WHOLE THING WITH THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. AND THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WASN'T HERE A MONTH AGO THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THE MIC AND TELL US WHAT YOU DID? OKAY, COME ON UP MA'AM. 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU WEREN'T HERE NAME. UM, HI, I'M YOLA C AND I LIVE AT 1 51 ERS LANE. YOU HAD A LETTER FROM MY HUSBAND AND MYSELF, UM, ABOUT THE VALUE OF LOTS, UH, THE SINGLE LOTS. MINE IS A NON-CONFORMING LOT, UH, BEING VALUED BY TYLER AT 650,000. THE DOUBLE LOTS AT 675,000. THAT SAYS TO US THAT THOSE ARE NOT BUILDING LOTS. THAT'S JUST AN ASIDE. UM, OUR HOUSE IS SITUATED WITH A SO-CALLED DOUBLE LOT NORTH SOUTHEASTERN WEST. SO WE'RE VERY CONCERNED NOT ABOUT NON-CONFORMING, BUT ABOUT PRECEDENT. UM, SUSAN FRANZ LEDLEY, WHO WAS MY VERY, WHO IS STILL MY VERY CLOSE FRIEND, APPLIED TWICE FOR A VARIANCE AT ONE 50 EDGAR'S LANE. IT WAS TURNED DOWN TWICE BECAUSE THE LOTS WERE NOT CONSIDERED BUILDING LOTS. BUT THE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK IS, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF HEARINGS. THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN TO A LOT OF THEM, AND PE I I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITIONERS. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITIONERS, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITIONERS. THAT'S GREAT. BUT NO ONE'S GIVEN A REASON. THOSE OF US WHO ARE HERE HAVE REASONS. I WILL LOSE MY VIEW IF THERE'S A HOUSE BUILT BEHIND ME. AND IF THIS THIS BECOMES A PRECEDENT, I COULD HAVE A HOUSE BUILT BEHIND ME. I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, BOTH SUMMER AND WINTER VIEW. I'M NOT IN A VIEW PRESERVATION BECAUSE I'M AT EDGAR'S LANE. UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE, THERE ARE PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. UM, THE ONLY PERSON I HEARD GIVE ANY REASON AT ALL WAS MATTHEW BARNARD WHO SAID HE'D PAY LESS TAXES. I THINK IF WE HAVE MUCH MORE HOUSING IN HASTINGS, WE WILL HAVE MANY MORE CHILDREN. WE WILL HAVE MUCH HIGHER TAXES, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN AND IF, AND PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME, THE WATERFRONT WILL BE DEVELOPED. SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, UM, I THINK YOUR BRIEF IS TO WEIGH THE COMMON GOOD, THE PUBLIC GOOD AGAINST THE PETITIONERS WHO STAND TO MAKE A PROFIT OR COULD BUILD A SMALLER HOUSE. IF IT'S REALLY FOR A PARENT. I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN WHAT THEIR AIM IS. I ASSUME IT'S PROFIT AGAINST ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO WILL LOSE THEIR VIEWS, HAVE [00:20:01] DRAINAGE ISSUES AND PARKING ISSUES AND OTHER, UM, SERIOUS ISSUES. AND FOR US IT'S PRECEDENT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMING. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. UM, ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, THE ARCHITECT? WE, WE ASKED HIM A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS LAST TIME AND NONE TODAY? NO. OKAY. SO WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE GONNA, UM, TRY TO GO THROUGH THE FIVE FACTORS AND, UM, UM, LET ANYBODY WHO CARES, UM, UH, KNOWS WHY WE FEEL THIS WAY AND THINK THIS WAY. WE'LL START BY THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO AS THE BOARD KNOWS, IN DETERMINING WHETHER TO GRANT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR AN AREA OF VARIANCE, YOU MUST BALANCE THE BENEFIT TO THE APPLICANT AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL DETRIMENTS TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE REQUIRED TO CONSIDER FIVE FACTORS AS PART OF THIS EVALUATION. THE FIRST FACTOR IS WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE, WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY GRANTING THE AREA VARIANCES. SO LET ME TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS A FANTASTIC, UH, PRESENTATION BY THE ARCHITECT ON THIS CASE ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT THESE LOTS REALLY ARE AND, UH, AND YET SIMILAR IN WAYS AND EVERYONE WAS, UH, THEY WERE DIFFERENT, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WIDTH, IN TERMS OF DEPTH AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. AND, UH, AND, AND THAT THIS CHANGE WITH THIS VARIANCE WILL, LET ME SEE WHAT MY NOTES SAY. UM, CONSISTENT, CONSISTENT WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, UM, DOES ANYBODY JUST DISAGREE WITH THAT OR AGREE WITH IT OR, UM, AND HEARD NO, NO. AND SPEAK. I GUESS I THINK, I THINK JUST, I MEAN WE DISCUSSED THIS A LOT LAST TIME AND I THINK A BIG FACTOR FOR US WAS THAT, UM, THE SUBDIVIDED LOTS WILL BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND THAT IS IN FACT THE, THE TARGET SIZE OF THE ZONING IN THE AREA. SO THE VARIANCE IS REALLY JUST ABOUT THE SHAPE, GIVEN THE, THE ACTUAL CONTEXT OF THE, THE ACTUAL SHAPE OF THE LOT. AND AS YOU SAID, UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN SIZE TO, UM, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. RIGHT. UM, AND I ALSO GO AHEAD. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO IT AT A DIFFERENT POINT, BUT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE CONSIDERED WHAT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE TONIGHT AND LAST TIME. AND WE DO HAVE A CONDITION THAT IS MEANT TO REALLY SORT OF MANAGE ANY OF THE IMPACT ON THE VIEWS OF THE NEIGHBORS. AND I CAN SAY TOO THAT, UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE, BUT I MADE A VISIT TO IT, UM, TWO OR THREE DAYS AGO, AND I WENT UP TO 1, 2 1 AND I MET WITH HOPE AND I WENT INTO HER HOUSE AND I WENT INTO THE BACK OF THE FIRST FLOOR AND I GOT A VIEW OF JUST WHERE THE HOUSES WERE AND, AND, AND AT LEAST THAT LITTLE PART OF, UH, OF, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, IT'S A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE THE HASTINGS, THE HOUSES ARE KIND OF ENCROACHING ON EACH OTHER. I SPENT 45 YEARS IN, UH, HILLSIDE AVENUE AND ON EITHER SIDE OF US, I THINK IT WAS NINE FEET BETWEEN HOUSES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS USUALLY IN HASTINGS. AND, AND THIS JUST, UM, YOU COULD GET A FEEL THAT THIS IS GONNA WORK, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, FEET AND HOW CLOSE IS THE HOUSE AND HOW CLOSE IT IS AND, AND THIS AND THAT. SO THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. ALRIGHT. THE NEXT FACTOR IS WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME METHOD FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE OTHER THAN AN AREA VARIANCE. AND AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED THROUGH SOME OF THIS LAST TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, THE LOT IS 20,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS, UM, THE SIZE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT FOR TWO LOTS. AND THE VARIANCE REALLY HERE IS ON THE SHAPE. UM, GIVEN THAT THE EXISTING LOT, UM, DOESN'T HAVE, UM, THE [00:25:01] ADEQUATE DIMENSIONS TO GET THE, UM, SORT OF TYPICAL, UH, ZONING LOT ON PAPER, I THINK IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT THAT, UM, THAT THESE WERE HISTORICALLY TWO LOTS AND THAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY RESTORING THEM THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK, YOU KNOW, IT'S RELATING TO AN EXISTING HOUSE, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO WE DID HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT REMOVAL OF A PORCH IN ORDER TO ALSO HAVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE A, A, A BETTER IMPACT. RIGHT? AND ALSO, UM, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY IN THE SECOND, UM, LOT, LOT B, SO THAT MAY, UM, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PARKING PROBLEMS FOR THAT, FOR THAT HOUSE. THEY CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A GARAGE OR NOT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO, UH, PARK ON THE STREET. SO THE NEXT FACTOR FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER IS WHAT THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL. I CAN SPEAK TO THIS ONE. I, I THINK, UM, I THINK THIS ONE'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE'S THE KIND OF NUMERICAL NUMBER AND THEN THE IMPACT, AND ACTUALLY IT'S FLIPPED IN THIS CASE WHERE 20, THE, THE VARIANCE FOR THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS ACTUALLY A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. BUT I WOULD SAY MINIMAL IMPACT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE LOTS, THE SIZE OF THE LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEREAS THE, THE SIDE YARD SETBACK IS NOT A LARGE NUMBER. BUT I, I DO THINK HAS MORE OF AN IMPACT. AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, UM, MAINTAINING THE 24 FEET BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES INSTEAD OF GRANTING THE VARIANCE FOR LESS THAN THAT. SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE'RE WEIGHING THE NUMERICAL, UM, WHETHER A NUMBER IS SUBSTANTIAL VERSUS AN IMPACT. SO I THINK, UM, THEY'RE NOT SUBSTANTIAL. OKAY. I AGREE WITH THAT. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT POINT? NO, THE BOARD'S DELIBERATE, UH, DELIBERATING I AGREE AS WELL WITH THE CONDITION THAT WE AGREED TO. OKAY. IF I CAN MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT FACTOR FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER IS WELL EITHER REQUESTED VARIANCES WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT. AND, UH, THE, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, IN TERMS OF CQA ADOPTED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION DETERMINING THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENT. UM, IM IMPACTS THAT WAS THEIR JOB. THEY DID IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY SENT TO US, THAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT. AND I THINK THAT, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR CAN TELL US, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE RU THE WATER AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UH, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN, UH, DURING THE RAIN IF THIS THING. SURE. SO NO MATTER WHAT'S BUILT, I KNOW THAT THE HOUSE THAT WAS SHOWN WAS JUST A, FOR THE PURPOSES OF SHOWING THE BOARD WHAT CAN BE BUILT TO THE MAXIMUM, UM, I JUST WANNA LET THE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I, AND I DON'T MIND SAYING IT AGAIN. ANYTHING THAT'S BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY, ONCE SUBDIVIDED WILL HAVE TO MA WILL HAVE TO, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? THEY, 11 CODES, THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO APPLY, YES, CERTAINLY HAVE TO APPLY WITH ALL THE CODES, BUT THEY HAVE TO RETAIN ALL OF THEIR RUNOFF FROM THE HARDSCAPE. SO ANY WATER FROM THE ROOF, ANY WATER FROM THE DRIVEWAY, ANY WATER FROM THE SITE, UM, NOT THE SITE, EXCUSE ME, ANY, ANY WATER FROM THE HARDSCAPES WILL BE HANDLED ON SITE. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE DRAINAGE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LESS WATER COMING OFF OF THIS SITE THAT'S COMING OFF OF IT CURRENTLY. SO, UM, AND NO MATTER WHAT, LIKE, LIKE I WAS SAYING BEFORE, NO MATTER WHAT IS BUILT THERE, THEY HAVE TO RETAIN 100% OF THE RUNOFF FROM THE HARDSCAPES. AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED HOUSE ON LOT B WILL COMPLY WITH ALL RELEVANT BULK AND, UH, COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THE, THE FINAL FACTOR FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER THE APPLICANT'S ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WITH SELF-CREATED, WHICH CONSIDERATION SHALL NOT NECESSARILY PRECLUDE THE GRANTING OF THE AREA OF VARIANCES. [00:30:02] UM, TO FOLLOW UP ON THE DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT THE, THAT THE HARDSHIP IS LARGELY DUE TO THE, THE, THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, RATHER, UH, UH, RATHER THAN THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, OF, OF, OF THE PROPERTY. UM, SO, UH, IT'S THE, UH, SUBDIVISION OF OF, OF THAT THAT'S, THAT'S CAUSING THE, UM, VARIANCE TO BE REQUESTED. AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK EVERYTHING'S GOING DOWN THE HILL AND THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF, A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND THAT I REMEMBER WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, OR SOMEONE DID ABOUT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING HOUSE, UM, UM, WITH WHAT IT WOULD BE A NON-CONFORMING CONDITION MAKES IT, UH, VERY DIFFICULT, UM, TO DO SOMETHING ELSE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. SO THAT'S THAT. AND THEN, UM, AS WE SAID LAST, UH, MONTH, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT A POSSIBLE RESOLUTION THAT MAKE, THAT MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE NOT HAPPY, BUT THEY WON'T BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS ANYMORE. AND, UM, I THINK IT, IT'LL WORK. UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GIVING SOME AND GETTING SOME, NO ONE'S GONNA BE REALLY HAPPY, BUT EVERYONE'S GONNA BE SATISFIED AND THAT'LL BE FOUND IN THE RESOLUTION. SO JUST FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD'S KNOWLEDGE, THE CONDITION THAT YOU DISCUSSED LAST TIME WOULD BE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION MAP WILL INDICATE THAT A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF 16.9 FEET ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LOT B WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE MINIMUM SETBACK DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED HOUSES. SO IT MAINTAINS THAT 24 FOOT SETBACK IN EFFECT. AND THE OTHER THING IT DOES IT'LL AND 18 FEET, SORRY, ON THE SOUTH SIDE STILL? YES. AND 18 ON THE SOUTH SIDE. YES. IT WAS IMPORTANT. 18 FOR THE HOUSE. YEAH, THE HOUSE CAN'T BE SHIFTED SOUTH, IT HAS TO BE REDUCED IN WIDTH. YES. AND THERE'LL BE HOPEFULLY IN THE, IN THE, UM, IN THIS, IN THE WINTER ANYWAY, IN THE FALL AND SOME OF THE SPRING THERE'LL BE A 25, NO, 24, 24, 24. UM, VIEW, VIEW, VIEW PRESERVATION TERMS. I MEAN, WE DO NOT, WE'RE NOT IN A, UM, VIEW PRESERVATION SECTION OF THE, OF THE, UM, VILLAGE, BUT WE'RE TRYING WITH, UM, THE SETBACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO CREATE FOR THE HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE WAY WHERE THIS HOUSE IS GONNA BE BUILT, AT LEAST FROM THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, THAT WILL BE PRESERVED. AND UM, UH, I THINK THE PEOPLE IN THAT HOUSE, I DIDN'T SPEAK TO 'EM ALL, BUT UM, THEY WERE, THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT. AND I THINK THAT THE PETITIONERS ARE OKAY WITH IT TOO. NO ONE'S, YOU KNOW, JUMPING UP FOR JOY, BUT, UH, THEY CAN LIVE WITH IT. I THINK MAYBE, IF I COULD, THE WAY I WOULD SAY THAT IN, IN PLAIN LANGUAGE WAS IT WAS OUR HOPE THAT, UM, THAT WOULD MITIGATE, UM, ANY CONSEQUENCES OF GRANTING THE VARIANT TO THE PETITIONER, UM, ADVERSELY AFFECTING, UM, THE NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF LOWERING THAT MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES. SO THIS WAY, UM, IT'S PRESERVED, UM, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SIZE OF THE, OR AT THE EXPENSE OF THE WIDTH OF THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE BUILT ON THAT LOT, WHICH I THINK IS THE NATURE OF THE COMPROMISE. ALRIGHT, SO THE BOARD HAS GONE THROUGH THEIR FIVE FACTORS, SO THEY HAVE TO REACH A DECISION AND MAKE A VOTE. WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? NO, GO AHEAD . OKAY. UM, UH, WE MOVE TO, UH, MOVE TO MAKE, TO MAKE A MOTION IN THE CASE NUMBER 1424 FOR 16 SHELDON PLACE. UH, WE MOVE FOR THE RELIEF OF THE APPLICATION OF THE STRICT ZONING CODE, UM, FOR LOT WIDTH. UM, FOR LOT A PROPOSED IS 80, REQUIRED IS A HUNDRED, THE VARIANCE REQUIRED IS 20 FOR LOT B UH, THE PROPOSED IS 80, THE REQUIRED IS A HUNDRED, THE VARIANCE REQUIRED IS 20. AND FOR SIDE YARD SETBACKS, UM, LEMME JUST LOOK HERE. UH, THE PROPOSED IS 7.1 FEET AND THE REQUIRED IS 12. THE VARIANCE REQUIRED IS 4.9. ALL OF THESE, [00:35:01] UM, APPROVALS ARE CONDITIONED ON THE CONDITION WE DISCUSSED. WHICH DO YOU WANT TO READ IN? YES. SO THE SUBDIVISION MAP SHALL INDICATE A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF 16.9 FEET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LOT B TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM SETBACK, EXCUSE ME, A MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED HOUSES OF 24 FEET WHILE MAINTAINING THE 18 FOOT SETBACK ON THE SOUTH SIDE. OKAY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL FOR THIS. UM, YOU NEED A SECOND FIRST? NEED A SECOND. OH, OH, I SECOND. OH, YOU DID? OKAY. NO, I AM NOW, SORRY. OH, I DIDN'T, YOU DID. OKAY, JOSH. APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE. OKAY, THAT'S IT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. OKAY, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT TO DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, HAVE A NICE DAY. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. UM, LET'S GO BACK HERE. CAN'T, CAN'T DO, WHERE DID BILL GO? ALRIGHT, [Discussion Item] SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION. WE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW D 2025, A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 2 95, ZONING OF THE CODE OF THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON TO ELIMINATE THE LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF EXTENSIONS AND CONDITION APPROVALS OF FINAL SUBDIVISION PLATES. I CAN PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT ON THIS. YES. CAN YOU PLEASE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. , IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO UP UNTIL ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, NEW YORK STATE VILLAGE LAW HAD A, A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF EXTENSIONS THAT COULD BE GRANTED ON A FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL OR A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, EXCUSE ME. AND VILLAGE LAW HAS SINCE BEEN AMENDED TO REMOVE THE LIMITATION. AND SO WE ARE UPDATING THE VILLAGE CODE TO MATCH VILLAGE LAW TO REMOVE THE CAP ON THE NUMBER OF EXTENSIONS. THAT'S ALL THIS DOES NOW, BUT WHAT IS, HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY HAVE? THERE ARE 90 DAY EXTENSIONS, CORRECT? THE 90 DAY EXTENSIONS, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ALLOWED TWO, WHICH WOULD WOULD BE 180 DAYS. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO NOT HAVE A CAP ON HOW MANY EXTENSIONS YOU CAN GET. SO THERE'S STILL 90 DAY PERIODS, BUT YOU CAN COME BACK AND REQUEST MORE AS NEEDED. A LOT, A LOT OF TIMES THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS GETS HELD UP, GETTING COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL, YOU CAN GET STUCK THERE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. SO THIS JUST GIVES PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THEIR PLANS RECORDED. AND, AND THE PLANNING BOARD WAS THE ONE TO GIVE THEM EXTENSIONS, CORRECT? CORRECT. MM-HMM . YES. THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT UP HERE. UM, THAT'S IT. I'M FINE. I'M IN FAVOR. WHY NOT ANYBODY ELSE? I DON'T YEAH, IF THIS IS WHAT IS, IS ALREADY THE LAW AND PRACTICE MAKES SENSE TO AMEND THE CODE. DO YOU NEED ANYTHING? DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? IS THAT HOW WE WOULD I THINK IT'S JUST FOR ADVISEMENT, IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR STRONG FEELINGS OR, OKAY. NO, I MEAN IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE BY, I WAS GONNA ASK WHY, BUT THE EXPLANATION MAKES PERFECT SENSE. IT'S JUST TO MATCH STATE LAW. YEAH, THANK YOU. WHAT TARAN WAS SAYING IS THAT SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS JUST GET HUNG UP, YOU KNOW, WITH COUNTY PLANNING OR STATE AND IT, IT JUST, THEY COULD GET, IT'S LIKE ELECTRIC OWL, THEY'RE JUST, IT'S GOING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO COME BACK TO PLANNING BOARD FOR AN EXTENSION. A FEW, NOT A FEW MONTHS, COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? YEAH, RECENTLY. YEAH. SO BECAUSE OF THIS 180 DAY CYCLE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. GOT IT. AND THE LAST IS THE ADDED, UM, REPORT OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON THE 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. UM, I KNOW BETH, THAT YOU SENT, UH, SOMETHING TO LINDA. YEAH. TARYN, WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL? LINDA HAD ASKED FOR COMMENTS. SHOULD I JUST READ THEM SO THEY'RE ON THE RECORD OR DO YOU HAVE THEM? AND THAT'S FINE AND WE CAN JUST DISCUSS THEM BECAUSE I GUESS EVERYONE WAS ON THAT EMAIL. YEAH, I MEAN IF YOU WANNA, I MEAN IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE IT IF YOU WANNA JUST LIKE SUMMARIZE YEAH. THE GRIP OF THE RECORD. UM, BUT YEAH, IF ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS. YEAH, SO, SO I THOUGHT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS DID A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR US TO BE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS AND TO TAKE A LOOK. BUT WHEN I LOOKED MOSTLY AT THE HOUSING SECTION WAS WHAT I WAS FOCUSED ON THAT CHAPTER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER CHAPTERS AT THE END, THEY HAVE THIS VERY NICE WAY IN WHICH THEY REITERATE THAT THIS IS ONE SECTION OF AN ENTIRE STR STR STRATEGY. [00:40:01] AND FOR SOME REASON IN THE HOUSING CHAPTER, THERE ISN'T THAT TIEBACK. AND WHEN I THINK OF THE, THE MATTERS THAT WE HEAR BEFORE US AND SORT OF DIRECTLY WITHIN THE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT WE JUST WENT EVEN THROUGH A LOT ABOUT, UM, THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE ARE DECIDING AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE WANNA PRESERVE AND THAT WE WANNA PRIORITIZE AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE, I THOUGHT MADE SENSE FOR THE HOUSING SECTION TO JUST MAKE THOSE CROSS REFERENCES SO THAT IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR. AND THAT MIGHT JUST BE, 'CAUSE INFORMALLY THERE'S ALREADY BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS AND I FEEL LIKE THAT ADDITIONAL CLARITY WILL, UM, WILL I THINK MAKE OUR JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND, UM, BUILD A CONSENSUS FOR WHAT THAT CHAPTER REALLY MEANS. SO THE SPECIFIC CROSS REFERENCES WE'RE HISTORY AND PEACEMAKING, WHICH JUST TALKS ABOUT WE ARE A VILLAGE AND A RIVER TOWN, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE, WHICH IS BASICALLY FACTOR FOUR WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT AS WELL AS THE WATERFRONT. SO THOSE WERE THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I LIKED YOUR COMMENTS. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER, I FELT LIKE THEY WERE FAIRLY, HOPEFULLY VERY HELPFUL AND NOT CONTROVERSIAL. . NO, AND I, I'LL SAY AS A BOARD MEMBER, IT, IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH, COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. IT VERY, FOR SURE. I MEAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A WHILE TO GO THROUGH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE IT AS A BOARD MEMBER. IT DOES HELP TO HAVE A NORTH STAR FOR US. EVEN IN CASES LIKE WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT, IT'S, UH, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE HOUSING IS, IS IS PART OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT THE, THE VILLAGE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE MM-HMM . SO HAVING, UH, THE, THOSE GUIDELINES IN PLACE FOR ME HELPED TO KIND OF LIKE SET THE PLAYING FIELD A BIT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO IT, LORD KNOWS IT WAS, UH, A, A PRETTY LARGE TASK. RIGHT. YEAH. AND I'LL I'LL SAY, I'LL JUST SECOND THAT, RICHARD. I MEAN THAT WAS JUST AN AMAZING, UH, BATTLE WORK TO, TO GET THAT DOCUMENT OUT AND UM, YOU KNOW, PAT HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS AND WOMEN. IT WAS FANTASTIC. YEAH. I'LL SAY SOMETIMES ON THIS BOARD, WE UM, WE SAY THAT THE ARCHITECTS HAVE A BIT OF AN ADVANTAGE IN READING THE DRAWINGS, BUT I'M VERY HAPPY NOW THAT THE LAWYERS ARE TAKING THE LEAD IN GIANT DOCUMENTS BECAUSE I WAS QUITE INTIMIDATED. SO 500 PAGE APPENDIX. YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. I THOUGHT THE FIRST ONE WAS WE START TO BLACK OUT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EXHAUSTED. THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH PRETTY PICTURES FOR ME. . THAT'S FUNNY. THAT'S FUNNY. IT'S A DIVERSE BOARD FOR THIS REASON. YEAH. YEAH. EVERYONE, I CAN BLAME THAT DOCUMENT ON MY, ON ME BEING LATE. THAT'S HOW LONG THE DOCUMENT WAS. I WAS ACTUALLY THE KIND OF LOST MYSELF LIKE DIGGING INTO THAT. SO, UM, OKAY. [Approval of Minutes] SO I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UH, MEETING TODAY. DOES ANYBODY? NO, WE HAVE MINUTES. OH, MINUTES. MINUTE. OH MINUTES. YEAH, I READ HIM. I HAD NOTHING TO CHANGE. DO WE MAKE A MOTION TO ANYONE? ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS IN THE MINUTES? NO COMMENTS. MOTION? ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [Announcements] AND THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE APRIL 24TH? YEAH, APRIL 24TH. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN. AYE FAVOR? SECOND. SECOND. YOU DON'T WANT TO ADJOURN? PARDON? EVERYBODY GO. NO, I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.