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I AM GOING TO BRING, UH, THE[I. ROLL CALL]
APRIL 10TH.I COULDN'T REMEMBER THE MONTH.
WOULD, UH, MADAM SECRETARY COULD CALL YOU
BOARD MEMBER ANJALI CHEN IS ABSENT.
BOARD MEMBER KATE STARR, HERE.
BOARD MEMBER ERNESTO VIRO IS ABSENT.
VILLAGE ATTORNEY LINDA WHITEHEAD HERE.
[II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
REVIEWED THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST, FROM DECEMBER AND MARCH? DO WE THE ONES THAT THEY GOT THIS AFTERNOON? YEAH, THE ONES WE GOT.UM, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM FROM LAST MONTH? I WAS THERE.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE MARCH MINUTES? NO COMMENTS? NO.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? DO YOU GUYS HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT OR DO YOU WANNA HOLD 'EM OVER? I, I READ THEM AT DINNER.
SO NOW DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? SO MOVED.
[III. OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS]
WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, OLD HEARINGS FIRST, JUST IN CASE PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR OTHER HEARINGS.UH, WHICH ONE IS IT? WARREN AND PEARL.
AND PEARL IS, UM, AND THE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE, THE NAMES ON THESE TRY TRACY AS WELL.
AND, AND NINE 17, UH, WASHINGTON HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN POSTPONED TO, UH, A FUTURE MEETING, AS IS THE, UH, AMENDMENT FOR THE GRAHAM SCHOOL FOR THE ELECTRICAL.
SO WE'RE HEARING, UH, SHELDON TONIGHT.
UM, WE'RE HEARING 22 64, 2 70 FARGATE, UM, 5 68 WAR BURTON AS OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO, UM, SHELDON, UH, YOU, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FROM THE, UH, UH, THE ZONING BOARD, UH, APPROVING IT WITH CONDITIONS.
UM, I ASSUME YOU ACCEPT THOSE CONDITIONS.
I'M MIKE JACOBS WITH JACOBS CHANG ARCHITECTURE.
UM, WE, YEAH, WE RECEIVED THE ZONING, UH, RESOLUTION, UH, LAST MONTH AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, I GUESS TO RETURN TO PLANNING FOR, UH, FINAL APPROVAL, I'M HOPING PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY APPROVAL SUB SUBDIVISION IS IN TWO STEPS.
SO YOU DO PRELIMINARY AND THEN YOU COME BACK WITH YOUR PROPOSED FINAL PLAT, AND THEN THEY CAN GRANT FINAL.
SO, UH, THIS EVENING I BROUGHT A DRAFT, UH, PLAN OF THE PLAT MAP.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT FINISHED YET.
UM, THERE ARE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I CAN CERTAINLY ASK CHARLES, UH, OFFLINE, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT I TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT? UM, PAT CLARY AND I WILL REVIEW THE DRAFT PLAT.
UM, DO YOU, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ZONING RESOLUTION? NO.
WE'VE SEEN THIS, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, I THINK, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU, THE NEXT STEP, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY COMPLETED SCRA, NOW, THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR VARIANCES.
YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF THE WORK ALREADY WITH GETTING TO THE POINT OF MAKING THE SCRA NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
SO THE NEXT STEP FOR THIS BOARD, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU STILL WANTED TO LOOK AT, UM, WOULD BE TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
IN THAT YOU WOULD INCORPORATE THE CONDITION THAT THE ZONING BOARD HAD.
UM, AND WHEN THEY DO PRESENT THE FINAL PLAT, UM, WHEN THEY COME BACK, THE PLAT WILL REFLECT THAT SETBACK.
AND THE CONDITIONS WERE, UH, A SETBACK OF 16.9 FEET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LOT B, UH,
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ALLOWING FOR A 20 FOOT, 24 FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.I WILL OPEN IT UP, UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE SHELDON APP APPLICATION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AND THEN I WILL ACCEPT A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY, UH, SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
WE HAVE A SO MOVED FROM KATE AND SECOND, SECOND FROM PATRICK.
UM, THE SECOND APPLICATION IS FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND STEEP SLOPES APPROVAL, UH, FOR 2 64 DASH TWO 70 FARGATE.
UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION, AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
THIS IS FOR, UH, A SUBDIVISION OF A EXISTING TWO LOTS INTO THREE LOTS.
UM, THERE WAS A, AN APPROVAL FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE ZONING BOARD, UH, AND THAT WAS RELATIVELY LIGHT.
THAT LANDSCAPING AND PLANTING PLAN AS, UH, APPROVED BY US, UH, UH, WILL BE REFLECTED ON, UH, ON THE PLAN.
AND JUST TO, UM, ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SHOWED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, WE SAID YOU WERE STILL GONNA REVIEW IT.
UM, WHEN YOU GET TO YOUR FINAL APPROVAL, YOU'LL REVIEW THE DETAILS OF THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, AND THE ZONING BOARD JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, AT A MINIMUM MET THE PLAN THAT THEY SAW, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY SEEN.
SO, ED, WHAT'S, SO, I, I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO PRESENT.
WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH, UH, VILLAGE PLANNER AND THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY ON THE, UH, PLAT PLAN.
WE'VE SUBMITTED, UH, A PLAN THIS WEEK WITH, UH, THAT ADDRESSED THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED ON, ON THE MARKUPS.
AND SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING FOR FINAL OR PRELIMINARY.
THE CODE DOESN'T ALLOW, SOME CODES DO ALLOW FOR AN ABBREVIATED PROCEDURE.
SO WE HAVE TO DO THE TWO STEP PROCESS.
SO YOU LOOKING FOR THE, UH, PRELIMINARY, UH, PLAN APPROVAL? AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN THIS APPLICATION QUITE A FEW TIMES.
UH, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? AND AGAIN, YOU DID SEEK, OR YOU DID A NEGATIVE DECLARATION RIGHT ON THIS BEFORE YOU SENT IT TO OFF TO THE ZONING COURT? NOTHING HERE.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS GOING WELL FOR ME TONIGHT.
UM, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? MY, I, I HAVE ONE OR TWO COMMENTS ON THAT PLAT, SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT FINALIZED FOR YOU.
UM, YOU CAN THEN GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
YOU'LL NEED THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION RESOLUTION AND THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
AND THE PLAT TO GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO DO YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THE YES.
YOU NEED A MOTION AND I NEED A MOTION TO, UH, UH, ADOPT THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND STEEP SLOPES APPROVAL.
UH, WE'VE ALSO SEEN QUITE A FEW TIMES, 5 68 WAR BURTON.
UM, THIS ONE HAS, UH, UNDERGONE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, UM, WITH THE ARCHITECTS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND RUN US THROUGH THE CHANGES.
CHRISTINE, SHE'S GONNA HI, SUZANNE LEVINE, CGA STUDIO ARCHITECTS HERE WITH CHRISTINA GRIFFIN.
UM, WE ARE BACK WITH, UM, ANOTHER LOOK AT THE DESIGN FOR 5 66 5 68 WAR BURTON AVENUE.
UM, WE, UM, AND THIS IS OUR BUILDING AND THE STREETSCAPE, AND WE JUST BROUGHT SOME INTERIORS OF THE EXISTING SPACE.
UM, WE TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT THE LAYOUT AT THE FIRST FLOOR.
UM, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE WORKSPACE BEING CONNECTED TO THE UNITS ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT MIGHT BE USED AS LIVING SPACE.
UM, SO WE, UH, WE'VE COMPLETELY SEPARATED THE WORKSPACE FROM THE LIVING, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND ARE PROPOSING THAT IT BE USED AS A COMMUNAL WORKSPACE FOR
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THE FOUR UNITS IN THE BUILDING.UM, I'M SHOWING YOU JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE EXISTING OFFICE SPACE AND CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE THAT THAT'S IN THE BUILDING, UM, AND HAS BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR, UM, EXCEPT THIS, THIS, THIS IS SHOWING OVER HERE.
THESE ARE THE TWO ENTRY DOORS COMING INTO A VESTIBULE.
ON ONE SIDE, THERE'S A CONFERENCE, UH, ONE SIDE'S A CONFERENCE ROOM.
THE OTHER SIDE IS A RECEPTION DESK AREA.
UH, THERE'S ALSO TWO INDIVIDUAL STAIRCASES LEADING UPSTAIRS, WHICH WE'RE REPLACING WITH A SINGLE COMPLIANCE STAIR AND AN ELEVATOR CORE.
SO THIS IS OUR, OUR COMMUNAL WORKSPACE, VERY SIMILAR TO, TO WHAT'S THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STREET.
IT WILL BE VISUALLY VERY SIMILAR.
UH, WE PLAN TO, UM, INSTALL BUILT-INS DURING THE RENOVATION TO, TO AFFIRM IT AS A, AS A WORKSPACE AND A MEETING SPACE.
WE'VE ALSO ADDED A, UM, ACCESSIBLE BATH, UH, THAT WILL BE COMMUNAL AS WELL.
UM, AND IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UM, AND WE, UM, FEEL LIKE THIS ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS ABOUT A USE BEING USED AS RESIDENTIAL SPACE.
UM, AND, UM, IT ALSO GIVES A MORE FLEXIBLE LAYOUT SO THAT IF IN THE FUTURE, IF THE, IF THE OWNER OR THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION WOULD LIKE TO RENT IT AS A COMMERCIAL SPACE, IT WOULD WORK.
UH, IT WOULD WORK AS A COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UM, IN RECONFIGURING THE, THE LAYOUT, WE MOVE THE CORE SLIGHTLY FORWARD, UM, JUST TO GET EVERYTHING TO FIT IN THE UNITS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, WE STILL HAVE THE TRANSOM GLASS GOING FROM THE OPAQUE TRANSOM GLASS GOING FROM THE WORKSPACE INTO THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UM, WE, IN PUSHING IN, IN TAKING THE SPACE FROM THE UNIT TO USE FOR THE, THE COMMUNAL BATH, WE REALLY, IT ACTUALLY, UH, IMPROVED THIS LAYOUT.
WE THINK, UM, IT REALLY CENTRALIZES THE LIVING SPACE HERE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, CENTRALIZED UNDER THE, THAT EXISTING SKYLIGHT, WHICH WE WILL BE REPLACING, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A BIT, UM, WORN AND, AND CLOUDED.
SO, UM, UH, SO WE FEEL THAT THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO THIS LAYOUT.
UM, AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE RETAINING THE TWO, THE TWO DOORS AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE RE, WE'RE PRESERVING THE LOOK OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE A, A, A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING, UM, TO USE AS WORKSPACE.
WELL LET THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, COMMENT.
UH, I PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFUL, UH, ADDRESSING THE BOARD'S CONCERNS AND OPEN IT UP TO THE, CAN I GO FIRST? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SINCE THIS IS NOW A COMMON AREA, UH, ARE, ARE YOU AS THE, OR AS THE OWNER SPONSOR OF THE BUILDING GONNA FURNISH THE SPACE? I ASK THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY, UH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD BEFORE IS KIND OF THE CURB APPEAL OF, OF THE, THE APPEARANCE FROM THE OUTSIDE.
AND PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD, THAT IF IT WAS CONNECTED WITH A RESIDENCE, IT WOULD END UP LOOKING TOO MUCH, LIKE LOOKING INTO SOMEBODY'S LIVING ROOM OR PLAYROOM.
IF YOU FURNISH IT, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD PRETTY CONCLUSIVELY RESOLVE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT.
THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A PART OF OUR PLAN HERE INCLUDES BUILT-INS BY THE YEAH.
BY THE OWNER AS PART OF THE RENOVATION.
UH, BUILT IN DESK SPACE, BUILT IN, UH, STORAGE SPACE AND, AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO, UH, SEATING AND A, AND A AND A TABLE.
UM, A CONFERENCE SCREEN GREAT.
SO REALLY AFFIRMS THIS SPACE AS IT WORKS.
YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT IT'LL BE SIMILAR TO THE WAY IT APPEARS TODAY.
IF ANY OF US WHO HAVE WALKED BY THERE AND SEEN IT, IN FACT WOULD NOT BE SHOT, WOULD NOT BE NOTICE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
UM, IN ANY APPROVAL THAT YOU GRANT, YOU'RE GONNA OBVIOUSLY HAVE A CONDITION THAT THAT FRONT SPACE CAN ONLY BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, INCLUDING WORKSPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
UM, BUT YOUR ZONING ALSO SAYS THAT, RIGHT? SO CAN WE PHRASE IT, UH, THAT BE USED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE? SURE.
SO IT CAN, IF THEY DO DECIDE TO NOT HAVE IT BE A A LIVE WORK, COMMUNAL, LIVE WORK, THEY CAN STILL RENT IT.
PATRICK? YEAH, I, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING? YEAH.
FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY LIKE IT.
UH, MY HOUSING CO-OP HAS A SPACE LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S IN THE BASEMENT, SO IT'S KIND OF SAD.
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UM, I WAS ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT SUBDIVIDING IT OFF.IS IT DESIGNED SO THAT IF ONE, LIKE ONE HALF IS GONNA BE SUBDIVIDED, IT WILL BE SUBDIVIDED, UH, EASILY? OR IS IT OPEN WHEN YOU WALK IN? YEAH, RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA GET REALLY ZOOM IN HERE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WANT THIS BATH ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
IF YOU'RE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM, UH, OR IN THIS, IN THIS WORK AREA, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING A SLIDING GLASS DOOR.
THERE'S A WHOLE WALL OF GLASS HERE TO SEPARATE THE CONFERENCE ROOM FOR PRIVACY.
AND THEN THIS, THIS IS A LOW WALL.
THIS IS REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST TO SEPARATE A LITTLE BIT FROM THE ENTRY.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ENVISION THAT THIS, IF THIS WAS GONNA BE TURNED INTO COMMERCIAL SPACE, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD PUT A WALL HERE AND A DOOR AND, AND THIS COULD BE A COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UM, AND THEN THIS COULD BE RETAINED EITHER AS PART OF THE SPACE, UM, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, IF TO GIVE A, A HALLWAY ENTRYWAY FOR THE RESIDENCE.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE IT VERY OPEN AND WE LIKE IT FILLED WITH LIGHT AND, AND WE ENVISION IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE MAYBE YOU'VE SEEN, UH, THE SPACE AT HUG CO, WHICH IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE UTILIZED, UM, GLASS, YOU KNOW, GLASS ENCLOSURES AT THE WORKSPACES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE AND MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, GLASS HERE WITH A LOW WALL.
UH, BUT JUST KEEPING IT VERY OPEN.
IF, IF ONE HALF GETS LEASED OUT, IT WOULD MAKE LOGISTICS A LITTLE TOUGH, BUT I FEEL LIKE YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE I THINK TRADITION, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS WAS RENOVATED, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT THIS, THIS STORE WAS TO THIS SPACE AND THIS STORE WAS TO THIS SPACE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, IT, I THINK IF A PARTITION IS HERE AND THIS IS A RENTED OUT SPACE, UH, IT, THIS COULD BE PART OF IT OR IT COULD STILL BE USED BY THE RESIDENTS.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S FLEXIBLE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
COULD IT THEORETICALLY BE RENTED AS SORT OF A COWORKING SPACE? SO BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND FOLKS WHO PAID TO USE THE SPACE COULD, COULD USE IT ON SORT OF TEMPORARY BASIS POSSIBLY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I WAS ALSO, GO AHEAD, KATE.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, NOT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC HERE, BUT JUST WONDERING ABOUT, THAT'S, THE BATHROOM'S VERY CLOSE TO THAT SPACE.
SO IF THERE COULD BE LIKE SOUNDPROOFING OR OTHER MEASURES TO MAKE SURE DEF DEFINITELY, YEAH.
WE'RE SHOWING, BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM, YEAH.
WE'RE TREATING IT LIKE A PARTY WALL.
UM, SO IT, IT, UM, UH, THAT DEFINITELY WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN I FEEL LIKE, SORRY, UH, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY THANKS FOR, UH, REALLY BEING VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMENTS OF THE, OF THE GROUP.
UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALSO SKIPPED OVER KIND OF THE ROOF, WHICH WE KIND OF HADN'T TALKED ABOUT A LOT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN STUCK HERE.
UM, SO MAYBE CAN, WE CAN GO UP TO THE ROOF.
WAIT, DAVE, DID YOU HAVE, OH, UM, BEFORE WE GO UP TO THE ROOF, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHETHER YOU'VE GIVEN THOUGHT AS TO WHAT SORT OF PROFESSIONALS OR BUSINESSES THIS LAYOUT MIGHT APPEAL TO.
AND I JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, 'CAUSE IT STRIKES ME IT'S A PRETTY, A PRETTY NICE COMMON SPACE FOR A FOUR UNIT BUILDING.
AND, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL OR OR BUSINESS THAT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PAYING THE, THE, THE SORT OF PREMIUM FOR THAT COMMON SPACE.
UM, UNDERSTANDING IT'S NOT JUST THEIRS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE SHARING IT.
AND, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I, I FEEL LIKE SO MANY OF US, YOU KNOW, WORK FROM A LAPTOP IN, EVEN IN A, LIKE OUR KITCHENS OR IN A CAFE, OR, I MEAN, I THINK ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO ON YOUR LAPTOP, YOU CAN DO IN THE SPACE.
I DON'T REALLY SEE IT AS, YOU KNOW, A SPACE MAYBE FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, A THERAPIST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY MORE INDIVIDUAL WORKSPACE GETTING OUT OF YOUR UNIT, GETTING AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY AND COMING DOWNSTAIRS.
UM, AND, BUT, AND, BUT THERE IS A CONFERENCE ROOM FOR PRIVACY.
IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A CALL OR DO A ZOOM CALL, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING.
AND THE UNITS DON'T HAVE OFFICES IN THEM 'CAUSE THEY'RE SMALL.
UM, SO THIS, UM, GET BACK TO, THERE YOU GO.
UM, SO WE STILL HAVE, THIS IS STILL OUR ONE BEDROOM, ONE AND A HALF BATH UNIT.
UH, THIS, THIS IS A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH UNIT AT ABOUT 1,041.
AND UPSTAIRS THE UNITS GET BIGGER AT ABOUT 1200 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THEY REALLY, UM, JUST WORK VERY NICELY, UM, AS THEY ARE.
AND THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER ROOM FOR, FOR OFFICE SPACE, UM, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, IN USING THE DINING ROOM TABLE AS A, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE DUTY.
UM, SECOND FLOOR STAYED THE SAME.
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UM, HAS STAYED THE SAME, BUT WE HAVEN'T, EXCEPT FOR THE CORE MOVING FORWARD.UM, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS LAST TIME, BUT WE JUST PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO, UH, HOW THESE ROOF DECKS WOULD BE USED, LAYING OUT SOME FURNITURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDING RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THE DOWNTOWN PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS HOW TO GIVE OPEN SPACE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THE DOWNTOWN.
AND WE FEEL THAT ROOF DECKS ARE A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT, EVEN THOUGH, UM, IT'S NOT A TYPICAL, UH, A TYPICAL THING YOU SEE IN THE DOWNTOWN.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE 45 MAIN, UH, ACTUALLY DOES HAVE ROOF DECKS, UH, FACING, FACING MAIN STREET.
UM, AND THIS IS A PROJECT OF OURS, 400 WAR BURTON AVENUE.
NOT, NOT IN THE DOWNTOWN, BUT, UM, OVER NEAR ANTOINETTE'S.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT BECAUSE I THINK ANYONE WHO WALKS BY HERE, SOME, IF YOU'RE AT THE STREET LEVEL, YOU REALLY DON'T NOTICE THE, THE, UH, ROOF DECKS EVEN OUT, OUT ON A FIR A ONE STORY BUILDING.
UH, AND IF YOU DID SEE THEM FROM, FROM ABOVE, UM, THEY'RE VERY ATTRACTIVE.
UM, AND MAYBE MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, WHICH INCLUDES A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, PENETRATIONS IN THE ROOF.
AND, YOU KNOW, UM, SO WE, THESE ARE SOME INSPIRATION IMAGES OF WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND.
WE, UH, SUBMITTED A SPECIFICATION FOR A GLASS RAILING RAILING SYSTEM, UH, COMPOSITE DECKING.
UM, UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A, OF A BULKHEAD, NOT EXACTLY, UM, THE, THE TYPE OF BULKHEAD WE HAVE, BUT SIMILAR IN THAT IT'S A SMALL FOOTPRINT, UM, AND JUST VERY MINIMAL.
UM, JUST TO GET YOU UP TO THE ROOF, COULD YOU, UM, WHAT'S, WALK ME THROUGH THE DECISION MAKING, UM, IN CREATING KIND OF FOUR SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL SPACES INSTEAD OF A GROUP, INSTEAD OF A COMMON OBJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY DID INTRODUCE A SMALL COMMON AREA HERE.
UM, YOU COME UP, YOU COME UP FROM, UH, THE CO THE, THE STAIR HERE.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS A COMMON PATH THAT LEADS TO A COMMON AREA.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SO, AND, AND WE MADE THIS VERY FLEXIBLE SO THAT THIS IS A DOOR TO, TO THIS UNIT, BUT, UH, TO THIS UNIT'S ROOF DECK.
BUT THERE'S ALSO DOORS HERE TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ENVISION IT AS EVEN THOUGH EACH, EACH RESIDENT HAS, ITS THEIR OWN PRIVATE ROOF DECK, THAT, UM, THAT IT'S ALSO A COMMUNAL SPACE TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, IT'S PEOPLE LIKE THEIR PRIVATE SPACE AND, AND EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS, UM, INDIVIDUAL, UH, INDIVIDUAL ROOF DECKS FOR EACH UNIT, UM, THE PRIVACY SCREENS WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING ARE REALLY MINIMAL.
THEY'RE REALLY JUST, UM, UM, I THINK WE HAVE THEM AT LIKE, ABOUT, UH, 42, 44 INCHES, UM, JUST TO CREATE SOME SEPARATION.
BUT YOU'RE STILL SEEING YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOU'RE NOT BLOCKING VIEWS.
UM, AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE A MIX OF PRIVATE AND, AND COMMON AREA.
AND DID WE, UM, UH, VIEW PRESERVATION FROM WHITMAN? DID WE RESOLVE THAT? WE DID THAT AT THE FIRST MEETING.
UM, I CAN PULL THAT UP, BUT I THINK, UM, I, I THINK DOES IT CHANGE WITH THE BULKHEAD MOVING? NO, NO.
IN FACT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, 15, 15 INCHES FORWARD.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE SAME.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
AND I THINK WE SAW, I'M HAPPY TO PULL UP THE VIEW STUDIES.
UM, I THINK WE SAW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT WAS NOT.
ENCROACHING ON ANY VIEWS? UH, THEY ALREADY GOT A WAIVER, RIGHT? I THINK THE WAIVER, I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED MAYBE THE WAIVERS IN THE WORKS.
UM, UNLESS THERE'S MORE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
SO CAN I HEAR A, UM, UH, A MOTION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT? SO MOVED.
JUST, UM, THAT'S GOT A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS.
UM, THE FRONT SPACE, UM, CAN ONLY BE USED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
UM, THAT THERE WILL BE SOME BUILT IN DESK AND STORAGE AREAS TO CLEARLY DEFINE IT AS SUCH.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD HAS ANY OTHER CONDITIONS THEY WANNA, NO.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND, AND A SECOND.
SO THAT'S IT FOR ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[IV. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS]
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WE HAVE A VIEW PRESERVATION ADVISORY APPLICATION FOR A NINE MARBLE TERRACE.I DUNNO IF I'VE EVER SEEN THE TIE.
IT'S THE WHITE SHIRT AND THE SUIT.
THIS IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM A NEIGHBOR.
I AM THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE OTROS.
UM, THE DESIGNER CAN BE HERE TONIGHT.
SO I'M GONNA RUN WITH THIS, UM, THIS VIEW PRESERVATION APPLICATION.
AND ESSENTIALLY, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY, UM, THIS LITTLE 3D IMAGE, IT WILL HELP IDENTIFY WHAT AREAS OF THE HOUSE MIGHT BE IN CONTENTION.
SO THIS PURPLE OBJECT ON THE RIGHT IS A, IS A STOOP WITH A SMALL ROOF, LET OVER IT.
AND ESSENTIALLY I THINK IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE LEFT.
THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER HERE IS ANOTHER PURPLE AREA THAT IS A COVERED PORCH, WHICH, UH, WILL BE VISIBLE, UM, FOR A COUPLE NEIGHBORS.
UM, ANYTHING BEHIND THE PURPLE, IN FACT WILL NOT BE, UM, I WOULD CONTEND.
SO, UM, SO LET ME JUST FLIP OVER TO THIS MAP.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS WHAT SPAGHETTI LOOKS LIKE BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE WATER, UM, STIFF.
AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE WATER, IT GETS ALL KIND OF SOGGY, EDIBLE YOUR ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, SO PRINCIPALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GONNA BE TOO CONFUSING.
THE, WHERE I'VE GOT MY CURSOR HERE, THAT'S WHERE THAT STOOP IS.
AND IN FACT, FOR EVERYBODY, THE HOUSE WOULD OBSTRUCT THE VIEW.
SO THE, THE ROOF AND THE STOOP, I THINK WE CAN JUST PUT TO THE SIDE HERE IS THE, THE, THE PORCH.
WHICH FACT, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE, THE SHOULDER OF THE HOUSE BLOCKS A VIEW OF IT FROM, UM, NUMBER 26.
AND, BUT IT IS VISIBLE AND OBSTRUCTS A LITTLE BIT.
THE VIEW FROM 12 MARBLE TERRACE, YOU CAN SEE IT SORT OF JUST CLIPS IT.
AND WE HAVE SOME IMAGES, UM, THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THE, THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THE DECK OBSTRUCTS, PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT OF THE VIEW FROM TWO MARBLE TERRACE.
BY THE WAY, THE NUMBERING ON MARBLE TERRACE IS COMPLETELY CHAOTIC BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE IN ROMAN NUMERALS AND NO ONE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT,
SO THIS IS A THREE STORY BUILDING ON WAR BURDEN HERE, WHICH ACTUALLY, UM, WOULD OBSTRUCT THE VIEW ANYWAY FOR THE FOLKS FROM TWO.
SO LET ME JUST QUICKLY GET TO SOME IMAGES.
UM, SO JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE, THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE SOUTH, WHICH SHOWS THE HOUSE AS IT CURRENTLY LOOKS.
UM, UM, AND HERE IS A 3D MODEL OF THE HOUSE WITH THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, COVERED ENTRY TO THE FIRST FLOOR UNIT.
SO THIS DECK IS I THINK, WHAT'S REALLY IN CONTENTION HERE, AND THIS CORNER OF IT IN PARTICULAR.
UM, AND I'M GONNA, UM, WALK BACK WHAT I SAID.
IT IS PARTIALLY VISIBLE FROM 26.
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AND, AND ALSO FROM, UM, FROM 12.SO I'M JUST GONNA GO RIGHT TO THIS VIEW FROM THE SIDE OF 12 MARBLE TERRACE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE HOUSE AS IT CURRENTLY SITS.
UM, YOU HAVE A VIEW, AND WE'RE AT GRADE, WE HAVE A VIEW OF THE PALISADES BEYOND AND THE RIVER SOMEWHAT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, UM, FROM THIS 3D MODEL THAT THE DESIGNER PUT IN PLACE, UM, THERE'S A PARTIAL OBSTRUCTION, AND IN THE WINTER IT PROBABLY BE MORE NOTABLE THAN IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE FOLIAGE, IN FACT OBSTRUCTS THE VIEW.
UM, BUT IT'S A MINOR, UM, OBSTRUCTION.
UM, AND FINALLY, UM, JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE VIEW FROM THE AQUEDUCT BEHIND 12 MARBLE TERRACE, YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE, WHICH I HIGHLIGHTED WITH A LITTLE WHITE CAP ON IT TO SHOW THE ROOF LINE AND THEN THE MODEL ON THE RIGHT.
UM, IF, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE ADDITION HAS NO EFFECT FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT LOOKING THROUGH THE SLOT.
SO, AND THEN FINALLY BEHIND 26 MARBLE TERRACE FROM THE AQUEDUCT, AGAIN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING, BUT HONESTLY IT'S, UM, THE PORTION THAT YOU WOULD, THAT WOULD BE OBSTRUCTED IS ACTUALLY ALREADY OBSTRUCTED BY 12 MARBLE TERRACE.
AND JUST TO, JUST TO RECAP, SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CORNER OF THIS UPPER DECK, UM, BEING THE OBSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A PARTIAL OBSTRUCTION.
UM, SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET SAYING THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS, WHICH I TENDERED.
AND THEN, UM, DO ERNEST OR HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, NO, I BLATHERED ON IT LONG ENOUGH.
UM, BOARD MEMBERS, TOM, JUST A QUESTION.
IS THE, IS THE PORTION THAT IT IS OBSTRUCTING A, A, UH, A WALL OR A IT'S A PAR IT'S LIKE A SEMI, IT'S, IT WOULD BE OBSTRUCTIVE TO THE VIEW.
COULD YOU MAKE IT OUTTA GLASS? THAT'S DONE SOMETIMES WITH THOSE? IT COULD, BUT TERRA STRUCTURES OF THE DESIGNER IS THAT IT WOULD BE WOOD CLAD TO KIND OF CAPTURE THE VIBE OF THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO OBSTRUCT THE, THE IMPORTANT VIEW TO ME, THE, OBVIOUSLY THE PALISADES IN THE BACKGROUND ARE STILL, UH, CLEARLY VISIBLE.
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE AS YOU GO.
SO THIS IS SHOT FROM A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE LEVEL OF THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, IN THE, ON THE YARD OF THE, OF 12 MARBLE TERRACE.
AS YOU GO UP TO THE FIRST FLOOR NOW, UH, THE ANGLE, THE ANGLE GETS STEEP, LET'S TO SEE THE ROOF SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR.
UM, NOW THERE'S THE, THERE'S NO OBSTRUCTION BECAUSE I'M LOOKING DOWN AT THE, THE WAR BURTON AVENUE CORRIDOR.
SO COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE CURRENT VIEW OF, FROM THAT ANGLE? THAT, THAT ONE? YEAH.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE, AS YOU WERE SAYING, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME FOLIAGE DURING PART OF THE YEAR THAT ALREADY OBSTRUCTS THE VIEW.
IT'S NOT AN UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW, UM, ENTIRELY 12, 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THERE'S, 'CAUSE YOU SEE THOSE TREES.
I MEAN, YOU'D SEE LIMBS AND, YEAH.
UH, I'D JUST SAY IT'S, IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO START IMPINGING ON THE, THE START OF THE PALISADES WHERE THE PALISADES HIT THE WATER.
SO IT HAS TO BE FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT RIGHT HERE.
FROM THIS, THIS VANTAGE POINT.
SO NO, IS THAT, THAT'S FROM 12, THAT'S FROM THE SIDE YARD OF 12
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OF THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE LETTER.SO THAT IS THE MOST DIRECT VIEW.
AND THAT'S WHO WROTE THIS LETTER, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE RESIDE AT 12 MAR MARBLE TERRACE AND HAVE REVIEWED THE RENDERINGS AND DESIGNS FOR NINE MARBLE TERRACE.
WE DO NOT SEE ANY SUBSTANTIAL IMPACTS TO OUR VIEW, AND HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE PLANS AT THIS MOMENT.
UH, NICOLE DAVIS AND MICHAEL VIC.
EASY FOR YOU TO SAY
UM, PATRICK? NO, I, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE, UH, THE PUBLIC.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
AND, UH, ACTUALLY IN THE CONDOS THAT CHRISTINA SHOWED EARLIER, UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE PLANS AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE THE PARCEL IS RIGHT BEHIND US AND WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHERE EXACTLY IS IT GOING ON, ON THE, THE PROPERTY? IS IT ON THE FLAT PART ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUSHES, OR IS IT ON THE STEEP PART ON THE OTHER SIDE? I'LL SHOW YOU THE PLAN RIGHT HERE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
AND COULD YOU SIGN IN TOO? OKAY.
OKAY, SO THE GREEN THING IS THE MAIN HOUSE, RIGHT? WARBURTON IS DOWN HERE.
RIGHT? HERE'S DONALD BROWN, THE ROOFING CONTRACTOR.
UM, AND THE, THE, THE PARCEL IS ACTUALLY, OH, FOR ME.
OH, IT'S FOR YOU
SO THAT SQUARE THAT OUTLINES IT IS ACTUALLY THE PARCEL.
UM, THE OWNERS ALSO OWN THIS OTHER SORT OF SMALL PARCEL ADJACENT, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY.
DO YOU, DO YOU SEE THAT? SO THIS IS THE FLAT AREA, UM, ADJACENT.
THE YARD IS PRETTY FLAT AS WELL.
AND LINDA, THIS IS NOT A SITE PLAN REVIEW.
THIS IS NO, THIS IS JUST A VIEW PRESENT.
SO, AND SINCE 400 WAR BURTON IS BELOW IT, BELOW IT, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT YOUR VIEW.
I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE DISCUSSION THE SIDE OF THE BUSHES OVER THERE, MA'AM.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT IT.
YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, SORRY, I DON'T, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE.
IT'S JUST THIS IS A VIEW OF PRESERVATION ISSUE.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO TALK AFTERWARDS THAT WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
SORRY, I JUST GOT THE LETTER IN THE MAIL ABOUT THE MEETING, SO I THOUGHT I SHOULD COME IF IT MIGHT IMPACT.
SO I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE.
AND I GUESS THESE PLANS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE NOW.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I THEREFORE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR, UH, UH, WE'RE REFERRING THIS TO IT'S VIEW PRESERVATION ADVISORY.
SO IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD, RIGHT? WHAT SHE SAID.
MITCH, ARE YOU RELATED TO ED? I AM ED.
UM, I IT'S A PRETTY COMMON NAME, RIGHT? IT TURNS OUT GOOD SEEING YOU.
UM, AND THE HI MITCH
SO REALLY? ISN'T THAT WEIRD? THE HOUSE IS COMPLETELY BLURRED OUT.
WHAT ARE THEY DO IN THERE? WHY ARE THEY HIDING? THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS.
THEY COULDN'T ASK, IT WASN'T A VIEW PRESERVATION.
SOMEHOW THE VIEW IMPACTED BY THE MIDLAND
IT'S INTENTIONALLY BLURRED, RIGHT? RIGHT.
'CAUSE I LOOKED FROM OTHER VIEWS.
THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR 1 41 LINCOLN AVENUE FOR AN ACCESSORY APARTMENT.
JUST SO BEFORE YOU START, THIS APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE, UH, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO COME BACK A SECOND TIME.
UH, NORMALLY, UH, WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONE HEARING FOR SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THIS, BUT THE FLOOR
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IS YOURS.YEAH, NO, UH, I, I RECEIVED THE, THE, THE DOCUMENT, THE SPEAK INTO THE MIC AND, AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UH, UM, I'M THE DESIGNER BASICALLY OF THIS PROJECT.
IT IS THE FIRST TIME I DO AN APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING WITH, UH, WITH YOU IN, UH, HESSON.
NO, IT'S, AND THIS IST A CRITICISM TOWARDS YOU.
IT'S MORE WE SHOULD BE MANAGING IT BETTER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE BOARD FOR A SIMPLE APPLICATION.
IF YOU WANT, I CAN INTRODUCE YOU THE PROJECT, PLEASE.
AND, AND THEN, BECAUSE YOU SENT THE, THE DOCUMENT FOR THE INCOMPLETE, UH, APPLICATION TO THE CLIENT, AND THE CLIENT FORWARDED TO ME.
BUT, UH, THIS MORNING I WAS, UH, IN ROME
SO I WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS, UH, STARTING TOMORROW.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST NEEDING SOME ENGINEERING DETAIL, UM, DRAINAGE, WHERE THE UTILITIES, WE DID EVERYTHING.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION.
I, WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE THE STORM WATER ANALYSIS AND, AND EVERYTHING WE NEEDED, BUT, UH, UH, I WASN'T SURE TO, TO GIVE YOU THAT DOCUMENT IN THIS MOMENT.
IF YOU CAN, I MEAN, IF YOU CAN GET IT SUBMITTED, THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM FOR THE OKAY.
SO GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION.
I HAVE TO CONNECT IT TO THE, TO THE POWER.
OH, SOMETIMES IT JUST TAKES A MINUTE.
BUT THIS SMALL, UH, UH, IN OFFICE WORKS ONLY IF IT IS CONNECTED TO THE POWER.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT
HUH? KINDA MAKES ME FEEL IMPORTANT.
YOU FLEW ALL THE WAY FROM ITALY FIRST.
UH, SO WE ARE IN THE R 10 ZONE OF HASTINGS ANDON IN 1 4 1 LINCOLN AVENUE.
I HAD DID A PRESENTATION WITH ALL THE RULES OF THE VILLAGE THAT, UH, I RESPECTED THROUGH MY DESIGN AND MY PROJECT, BUT I'M SURE YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ME, THESE RULES.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE PROJECT, THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT IS A EXISTING, UH, MAIN BUILDING IN WHICH, UH, THE APART FAMILY LIVES.
AND THERE IS A BLOCK, A BLOCK GARAGE WHERE THEY, UH, DID, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, STUDIO, THEY RENOVATED IT A FEW YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, THEY ASKED ME TO DESIGN THESE GUEST HOUSE BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, MR. OPA FROM LONDON, AND HIS WIFE IS GERMAN.
AND SO THEY HAVE, UH, UH, MANY TIMES, UH, PARENTS VISITING THEM.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO HAVE, UH, UM, THESE, UH, SMALL, UM, ACCESSORY APARTMENT CLOSE TO THEIR HOUSE TO HAVE A GUEST AND TO HAVE PARENTS WITH THEM.
AND, UH, WE DESIGNED THIS, UH, THIS BUILDING IN TOTALLY RESPECT OF WHAT IS THE, UH, AESTHETIC OF THE EXISTING, UH, HOUSE.
AND IT'S A, UH, 520 SQUARE FEET, UH, APARTMENT.
JUST ONE FLOOR, LIKE THE, FOR THE EXISTING, THE AL HOUSE WITH, UH, WITH AN, A BASEMENT.
AND, UH, IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S, UH, A BEDROOM, UH, WITH, UH, WITH A STUDIO, A OFFICE AND A BATHROOM.
NOTHING MORE WITH THE STAIRS THAT GOES DOWNSTAIRS TO A BASEMENT.
AESTHETICALLY IS, UH, IS, UH, WE USE THE SAME LANGUAGE OF THE EXISTING HOUSE WITH THE SAME PROPORTION OF, UH, GLASSES.
STEEL AND WOOD WITH HAD THE SAME, UH, UH, TYPE OF, UH, ROOF, SAME HEIGHT, AND SAME IN SAME PROPORTION.
AND, UH, THIS IS A SECTION AND, UH, TO SHOW YOU THE, THE FINAL OUTCOME, WE DID, UH, SOME TREATIES.
AND, UH, THIS IS WHAT, UH, THE OUTCOME IS EXPECTED TO, TO BECOME AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.
SO AT THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THE
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EXISTING HOUSE, AND, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU THERE IS THE ACCESSORY APARTMENT.AND THESE ARE DIFFERENT VIEWS, UH, OF, UH, OF THE PROJECT.
AND THE DESCRIPTION IS MORE AS A GUEST HOUSE AS THAN AN ACCESSORY.
WHAT'S THE DISTANCE FROM THE END OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING TO THE LOT LINE? I GO BACK, YOU SEE ON THIS DOCUMENT BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES YOU'RE ASKING ME? YEAH, NO, UH, UH, YEAH.
BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES, THE END OF THE ACCESSORY, UH, UNIT AND THE NEXT OH, PROPERTY LINE.
I I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT PARKING SPACE THAT IS DOWN ON THE ROAD THERE.
WE, THEY, THEY ALREADY HAVE TWO, UH, PARKING SPACES.
P ONE AND P TWO, YOU SEE IN FRONT OF THE CARRIAGE.
AND, UH, IN ORDER WITH THE, WITH THE RULES, WE, WE PROPOSE ALSO A, A P THREE PARKING FOR THE ACCESSORY BUILDING.
OH, THAT'S ON THE STREET, YES.
SO THAT'S NOT AN OFF STREET PARKING.
WE WOULD NEED A WAIVER FOR THE SPACE.
BUT PARKING'S ALLOWED THERE, THERE, RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKING.
UH, OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? UH, JUST A, A QUICK QUESTION FOR LINDA.
I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST APPLICATIONS WE'VE HAD, AT LEAST IN A WHILE FOR A SEPARATE ACCESSORY DWELLING.
USUALLY YOU JUST HAD ONE IN THE GARAGE.
YOU JUST HAD A CONVERSION OF A GARAGE.
BUT, BUT THAT THERE WAS AN EXISTING GARAGE THAT THEY WERE YEAH, THIS IS THE FIRST, THAT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THIS IS A GROUND UP, BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE, I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I'M ALL FOR ACCESSORY APARTMENTS.
I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
NO, BUT THAT'S WHY WE WANNA SEE THE DRAINAGE.
WELL, AS WITH ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, BEFORE YOU CAN GET A BUILDING PERMIT, YOU'VE GOTTA SHOW THE DRAINAGE.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TREES, SEE IF ANY TREES ARE COMING DOWN, SEE WHERE THE EXISTING UTILITIES ARE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICTS.
SO I THINK THEY HAVE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION.
SO, AND THIS WILL HAVE A KITCHEN.
YOU SEE A REALLY SMALL KITCHEN.
YOU SEE THE, I DESIGNED THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S LIKE A WARDROBE.
UH, INSIDE THERE IS A, THIS A REALLY SMALL KITCHEN TO COOK SOMETHING.
IF NO MORE COMMENTS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, PLEASE COME TO THE MIC.
I'M OG I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS, UH, THIS, WHAT THEY'RE SETTING UP.
UH, I AM JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE WAIVER THAT'S REQUIRED FOR PARKING.
AND THEY WERE SAYING BETWEEN 18 FEET BY NINE FEET, AND IT'S GOING TO BE, NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR THEIR PARENTS, BUT IT'LL BE ALSO RENTAL PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT, UH, BUT IF TWO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING THERE, AS IS VERY COMMON IN HASTINGS, BOTH OF THEM HAVE CARS.
AND OUR STREET IS ONLY 23 FEET ACROSS.
AND IF YOU HAVE PARKING, TWO CARS, AND IT'S A VERY ACTIVE STREET, THERE ARE LOTS OF CHILDREN BIKING, AND CARS ARE ALWAYS COMING AND GOING.
AND THEY ALREADY HAD DRIVEWAY, TWO DRIVEWAYS, ONE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY, AND ONE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE BLACKTOP AND THAT THEY COVERED, AND THEY MADE IT INTO GARDEN.
SO I DON'T SEE WHY YOU NEED THE CARS TO BE PARKED ON THE STREET.
ONE WAS A GRAVEL ONE AND ONE WAS A REGULAR BECAUSE THE, WHAT THEY HAD AT THE BOTTOM OF THEIR HOUSE WAS A, A GARAGE.
AND THERE WAS A DRIVEWAY THAT CONNECTED THE GARAGE TO THE ROAD.
I THINK THE SURVEY SHOWED THE OTHER DRIVEWAY.
AND WE HAVE, I HAVE LIVED THERE NOW FOR 40 YEARS.
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SO I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED.SO IF THERE WAS TWO DRIVEWAYS, WHY DO THEY NEED TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, OFF, YOU KNOW, STREET PARKING, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO CARS, IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENT THE PROPERTY, AND TWO PEOPLE COME TO LIVE AND THEY WANT TWO CARS, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PARK TWO CARS, IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO BACK, YOU KNOW, INTO THE STREET.
AND ESPECIALLY IF, AND THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF CHILDREN WHO ARE VERY ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, BIKING, WALKING, AND SCHOOL CHILDREN THAT WALK.
IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT WHEN THERE IS ONLY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, TRACK LEFT FOR THE CARS TO GO AND COME.
CAN, SO I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT WHY THEY CAN'T RECREATE.
WE WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE SURVEY.
CAN YOU JUST SIGN IN, PLEASE? SURE.
WHAT NUMBER? WHAT PROPERTY WERE YOU? PARDON ME? WHAT, WHAT NUMBER HOUSE WERE YOU? 1, 4, 6.
IT'S, YEAH, THERE WERE DRIVEWAYS THERE.
SO THE, UM, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ACCESSORY UNIT IS ONE PARKING SPACE.
BUT THE BOARD COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET THE SPACE OFF STREET.
THE ON, ON THE EXISTING, UM, UH, P ONE AND P TWO, WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THOSE PARKING SPACES? SORRY, SORRY.
YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN SIT DOWN.
NOW THE ARCHITECT, YOU COME BACK
WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THOSE, UH, THOSE SPACES? 18.
THE, THE WIDTH? YEAH, THE WIDTH ONE AND P TWO, 18.
18 AND TWO, I GUESS THE LENGTH, THAT'S THE LENGTH, THAT'S THE LENGTH.
THE LENGTH, THE, THE WIDTH, UH, LOOKS LIKE NINE FEET ABOUT TOM DON'T LEAVE THE WIDTH.
IT LOOKS MORE LIKE EIGHT ME IF I SEE THE PROPORTION.
IT'S, UH, AROUND FOUR COMBINED.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT CONFORMING SPACES, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT THEY'RE, THAT'S THE EXISTING, RIGHT.
ALTHOUGH BY TAKING AWAY THE DRIVEWAY AND YES.
WELL, MY, MY QUESTION I WAS LEANING TOWARDS TO THE LEFT OF P ONE IS, UH, UH, SPACE.
RIGHT? AND IF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TWO EXISTING PARKING SPACES WERE RECONFIGURED, UH, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHY THE WIDTH OF THEM.
DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT, THAT YOU COULD BRING UP? BECAUSE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL SOLUTION IS YOU, UH, RECONFIGURE P ONE P TWO SLIGHTLY SO THAT YOU THEN, YOU THEN HAVE THREE SPACES THERE.
I HAVE TO SEARCH FOR THE, FOR THE PHOTO.
BUT THEN WHY DON'T WE DO THIS, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT HEARING COME BACK, WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK AND, AND SHOW US, LOOK AT THAT, WHAT THAT OPTION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IS THAT OKAY WITH THE BOARD NUMBER? YOU HAVE TO COME BACK ANYWAY.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, AND THAT WOULD ADDRESS YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN.
UNRELATED TO THAT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
THE, THE THE EXISTING HOUSE IS, YEAH, IT IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[V. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
THE DISCUSSION ITEM IS RELATING TO, UM, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES' REACTION TO OUR, UM, MEMO.UH, DID ANYONE GET A CHANCE TO SEE THAT? UM, I DID NOT.
I'M GONNA LEAD IT A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN I'LL THROW IT OPEN TO YOU GUYS.
UM, THREE OF US ON, ON THIS BOARD, WERE ON THE COMP PLAN, AND SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION WAS, UH, WE WORKED REALLY HARD FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, AND WHETHER THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED INTO A COMP PLAN WOULD ACTUALLY BE IMPLEMENTED AND BE, YOU KNOW, BE USED AS PUBLIC POLICY.
UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS, UH, MENTIONED WAS THE PREVIOUS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEES, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM EIGHT YEARS AGO THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE TRUSTEES.
BUT THEY WERE CRITICIZED, UH, DURING THE, UH, THE TRUSTEES MEETING.
UM, THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS THREEFOLD.
IT WAS FOR SHORT, MIDDLE, AND LONG TERM, UH, SUGGESTIONS ON, ON TRAFFIC.
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OUTSIDE? WE'RE STILL IN HEARING.UM, RICHARD, CAN I JUST POINT OUT ONE THING? THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE STILL IN THERE.
THEY'RE IN, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY WERE ADOPTED EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND VERY LITTLE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IMPLEMENTED.
THEY'RE NOW, AGAIN, IN THE COMP PLAN.
UH, BUT THE COMMENTS THAT THE TRUSTEES, UM, WERE DEMEANING TOWARDS THAT EFFORT.
I GOT LOTS OF HURT FEELINGS FROM THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
WHY DID WE PUT IN YEARS OF EFFORT, UH, GET A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS VETTED BY THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND BY THE VILLAGE'S TRANSPORTATION, UH, CONSULTANT AND THEN IGNORED FOR EIGHT YEARS.
AND NOW AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA BE ADOPTED.
WHERE, WHERE, IS THERE ANY FAITH THAT THEY TOO WILL BE, UH, IMPLEMENTED? THEN GOING ON TO THE AFFORDABILITY AND THE SUSTAINABILITY? UH, THAT'S IN THE EXIST, THE PROPOSED COMP PLAN.
WE HAVE A BOARD OF ED PROPOSAL THAT IS ANTI AFFORDABILITY IN TERMS OF RAISING TAXES AND CREATING A, UH, UM, A FIELD THAT IS ALSO NOT SUSTAINABLE.
AND AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS IF WE ADOPT, WE AS A VILLAGE, ADOPT A COMP PLAN THAT HAS CERTAIN POLICY STATEMENTS IN IT, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN CONFLICT WITH THAT.
WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP ON OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS? UM, THERE WAS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO SCOLD THE BOARD OF ED.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR LEADERSHIP, UH, ON ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THIS VILLAGE.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON AFFORDABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.
AND IF WE HAVE A BODY THAT JUST IGNORES THAT, THEN, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE COMP PLAN? AND WHAT'S THE POINT OF ALL THESE MEMBERS SPENDING YEARS ON COMMITTEES, UH, WHEN THEY'RE IGNORED? UH, THE VILLAGE ADOPTED A SPEED LIMIT DOWN TO 25 WITHOUT A STUDY.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THINGS LIKE PUTTING STANCHIONS UP IN EXISTING CROSSWALKS, REALLY RADICAL, OR ON MAIN STREET WHERE PEOPLE COMPLAINED OF SPEEDING.
THE GREEN LIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FIREHOUSE COULD BE A YELLOW LIGHT.
BUT IN EIGHT YEARS, NONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE IMPLEMENTED AND THEY WERE BAD MOUTHED AT THE TRUSTEES.
SO AGAIN, WHAT I'M RAISING IS WHY WE, AS A PLANNING BOARD, WE AS A COMP PLAN COMMITTEE OR OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN ON, UH, SPEND LOTS OF TIME AND EFFORT, AND THEN IT ARE IGNORED.
AND THAT'S, I'M THROWING THAT OUT AND I'M SORRY, AND I SOUND LIKE I'M, I'M, UH, VETTING, BUT IT, IT, IT, IT BOTHERED ME.
CAN I JUST REPORT TO THE BOARD ON WHAT IS BEING DONE? SO THERE ARE REVISIONS BEING MADE TO THE COMP PLAN, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT, UM, CAME OUT OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, THOSE REVISION, AND THEN SOME MORE THAT CAME OUT OF COMMENTS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING LAST WEEK.
UM, WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE REVISIONS ALL DONE AND, UM, PUBLIC BY MONDAY.
UM, SO I, AND THERE WAS, THERE'S MORE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY THAT WAS ADDED IN, UM, EMPHASIZING I THINK THE POINT, I THINK THE CHAIR MADE THAT POINT THAT SHE WANTED IT SORT OF MORE EMPHASIZED THE ISSUE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, INCLUDING RELATING TO SCHOOL TAXES AND SCHOOL COSTS.
SO THAT HAS BEEN BEEFED UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR MEMO.
I, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR BEING INCORPORATED, BUT I'M JUST TELLING, I'M JUST REPORTING.
CAN I ASK LINDA, JUST PROCESS WISE, SO ONCE THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE, IS IT THEN TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR A FINAL VOTE TO APPROVE? SO THEY, THEY CONTINUED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS BEING CONTINUED ON TUESDAY.
UM, DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET THOSE, WE'VE BASICALLY MARKED UP THE CHANGES AND SENT THEM TO THE CONSULTANTS TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE DOCUMENT.
WE'VE ASKED THEM TO HIGHLIGHT THEM SO PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED.
UM, WE'VE ASKED TO HAVE THAT NO LATER THAN MONDAY.
SO IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING, DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET IT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS TUESDAY NIGHT? THE HEARING MAY, THEY'RE NOT VOTING TUESDAY NIGHT.
UM, THE EARLIEST THEY WOULD VOTE, VOTE ON THE PLAN WOULD BE THE FIRST TUESDAY IN MAY.
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OKAY.HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AT THE COMMUNITY AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? YEAH.
PUBLIC HEARING, NOT THAT MANY.
THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE KNEW THERE WAS, UM, MM-HMM
I'M SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE OBSERVING, WHICH IS, WHICH IS IN A WAY, KIND OF A GENERIC PROBLEM WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, WHICH IS JUST THAT THERE, THERE AREN'T MANY ENFORCEMENT, ME OR ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISMS TO ENSURE THAT THE THINGS YOU PLAN FOR ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
AND, UM, ONE METHOD, UH, I I WAS A PROGRAM MANAGER AND BEFORE I RETIRED, ONE METHOD THAT WE USED TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WAS WHAT WAS CALLED A RACI OR AN RC ANALYSIS, WHERE FOR EVERY ITEM IN A PROJECT, YOU IDENTIFIED THE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
ACTUALLY, THERE WERE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACCOUNTABLE, RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE, CONSULTED, AND, UM, INFORMED.
SO FROM KIND OF HIGHEST LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY BEING, WHO DO YOU FIRE? IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO, WHO OUGHT TO BE INFORMED? WELL, COMP PLAN ISN'T THAT SPECIFIC.
IT'S, LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE VILLAGE IS ABOUT.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
UM, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO FURTHER STUDY AT, ON LIKE THE DOWNTOWN ZONING.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.
UM, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S GUIDANCE.
THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS COULD BE INFORMATIONAL ALONG WITH IT.
WELL, THERE IS AN IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE, THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER, WHICH TAKES THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE PLAN AND SORT OF SAYS, THESE ARE, I MEAN, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON THE COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN TO SORT OF IMPLEMENT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DID TALK ABOUT MONITORING MECHANISMS TO, TO TRACK THAT.
I THINK THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, AND WE DID THAT FROM THE LAST COMP PLAN.
THERE'S A TABLE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN, WELL, THERE WAS A TABLE, BUT THERE WASN'T A PERIODIC CHECK-IN.
THERE WAS A SORT OF AN 11TH HOUR EFFORT TO TRY TO DOCUMENT WHAT WAS DONE THE PREVIOUS 10 YEARS.
ACTUALLY, IN THE BEGINNING, THERE WAS, AND THEN IT, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AFTER IT WAS ADOPTED, AND WHEN I FIRST CAME IN AS VILLAGE ATTORNEY, WE HAD SORT OF AN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION TABLE.
AND, AND THAT LASTED FOR A FEW YEARS.
I THINK WE'RE, AS THESE THINGS DO, THE TABLE IDENTIFIES RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE, TITLES OR AGENCIES FOR, OR BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.
IT DOES, DOES IDENTIFY COMMITTEES.
AND BECAUSE IT'S A COMMON STAKEHOLDERS, I MEAN, QUESTION THAT THE PUBLIC HAS, WHICH IS WHERE DO I GO ABOUT THIS? SO, SO MOST OF THE IMPLEMENTATION ARE ULTIMATELY GONNA BE ZONING TYPE CHANGES, WHICH ARE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
NOW THEY GET REFERRED TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS THE ONLY BOARD THAT CAN CHANGE THE ZONING.
OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UH, CAN, DOING IT MONTHLY MAY BE EXCESSIVE, BUT TO HAVE EITHER THE VILLAGE MANAGER OR THE, OR THE MAYOR, UH, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA EVERY TWO MONTHS YEAH.
UH, SO IT, IT, IT, IT KIND OF ADDRESSES YOUR, YOUR CONCERN.
ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THE TYPE OF ANALYSIS I'M TALKING ABOUT? IT'S A, IT'S A PLAN.
IT BASICALLY, IT'S A LINE ITEM AND IT SAYS, FOR EACH ITEM, ACCOUNTABLE, ET CETERA.
MY CONCERN, AND I HEAR YOU, LINDA, UH, THERE'S ADDITIONS TO THE COMP PLAN THAT COULD BE MEANINGFUL, BUT IT THEN BECOMES, UH, AN ACT OF LEADERSHIP, UH, WHERE YOU EXPECT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO ACTUALLY DO THE THINGS THAT THEY VOTE ON.
UM, THAT IN EIGHT YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A STANCHION OUT BY, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE CROSSING WHERE A KID GOT CAUGHT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HEAVY LIFTING.
UM, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A MACRO PROCESS ISSUE THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
BUT, BUT EVEN, BUT EVEN ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UH, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOARD OF ED, I MEAN, THE VILLAGE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH OF ANGST ABOUT THE WAR IN ISRAEL AND, AND HAMAS, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE SILENT ABOUT THE BOND ACT THAT COULD MAKE THIS VILLAGE LESS AFFORDABLE.
THAT SILENCE IS A LACK OF LEADERSHIP.
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EITHER CHOOSE TO DO IT OR DON'T CHOOSE TO DO IT.IT'S ALSO THE CASE THAT THE BOARD OF ED IS ALSO RESPONSIVE TO THE ELECTORATE, AND THE ELECTORATE IS VERY ENGAGED.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE HIGHLY CONTESTED ELECTIONS.
SO IT'S NOT THE CASE THAT THE BOARD OF ED IS UNACCOUNTABLE OFTEN SECRET, DOING THINGS THAT ARE AFFECTING ALL OF US.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THE PROCESS.
I MEAN, THE ISSUE IS STRUCTURAL, WHICH YOU'VE, WHICH YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE'S TWO ELECTED BODIES IN THE VILLAGE THAT HAVE OVERLAPPING AUTHORITY THAT DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER VERY WELL.
IT'S NOT TRUE THAT THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE.
THERE'S A LOT MORE COMMUNICATION THAN PEOPLE KNOW, AND THEY DON'T OVERLAP BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT.
DON'T, IN FACT, THE VILLAGE BOARD HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER THE SCHOOL BOARD AT ALL OVER WHAT THEY DO ON, THAT'S WHY OVER ON THE IMPACT.
BUT THERE, BUT THERE IS PRIORITIES.
THERE IS DISCUSS, THERE IS, THERE IS REGULAR DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND THE MAYOR.
BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KNOW, SETS A PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE OF WHICH THE SCHOOL IS APART, AND OF WHICH THE SCHOOL OWNS SIGNIFICANT LAND.
SO THERE IS, I KNOW IT'S NOT A LEGAL OVERLAPPING AUTHORITY, BUT WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME VILLAGE.
YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE, AND WE'RE ALL AFFECTED BY EACH OTHER'S DECISIONS.
I JUST, CAN I JUST THROW ANOTHER THING OUT THERE? YEAH, PLEASE.
UM, CAN WE AS A PLANNING BOARD, UM, BE MORE PROACTIVE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD? JUST AS WE'RE DOING HERE, WE CAN PUT ON OUR AGENDA DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE GO ON RECORD ABOUT, I GUESS WHATEVER WE WANT TO, IS, IS THAT THE CASE? OR WE CAN PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA OFFER DISCUSSION.
NOT REALLY YOUR JURIS, THERE'S NO FORMAL ROLE RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, I GUESS ARE THERE ANY ACT SPECIFIC ITEMS YOU WERE, YOU WERE HOPING TODAY? NO, I THINK, UM, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD VIEW THE, THE TRUSTEE'S DISCUSSION.
UH, IT UPSET THE MEMBERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WHERE, UH, ENOUGH THAT THEY, THEY BROKE ME IN.
UM, AND, AND THEY'LL NEVER SERVE ON ANOTHER BOARD BECAUSE THEY, THEY FELT ABUSED.
UH, AND THE COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE, THE BOARD OF ED, UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO, TO SCOLD THE BOARD OF ED.
IF, YOU KNOW, OUR ELECTED LEADERS FEEL THAT ANOTHER BODY, WHETHER IT'S A COUNTY OR THE BOARD OF ED OR THE PRESIDENT, DOES SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS OUR, UH, UH, ECONOMICS AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY.
THEY, THEY CAN VOTE ON SOMETHING MORE LOCAL.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE LEADERSHIP.
THAT'S NOT JURISDICTIONS, THAT'S LEADERSHIP.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR MAYOR WHO SHOULD PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP.
AND WITH THAT, ANYONE WANT TO GO HOME? I'D LOVE TO A MOTION TO, UH, WAIT, WAIT, WHAT? ONE LAST THING.
YOU WENT BACK TO SEVEN 30, ALTHOUGH NONE OF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT THIS BOARD USED TO MEET AT EIGHT 15, UM,
IT WAS A SEVEN 30 INSTEAD OF SEVEN O'CLOCK REQUEST BECAUSE OF SOME PEOPLE WHO, UM, WERE COMING FROM THE CITY AND, UM, ASKED FOR IT STILL TO BE SEVEN 30.
SO THE DISCUSSION HAS COME UP WITH CHANGE IN, IN THE BOARD COMPOSITION, WHETHER PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO CHANGE IT TO SEVEN O'CLOCK NOW.
SO WE, WE HAVE TO ASK THE OTHERS, BUT WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE'D ASK THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT, IF SEVEN O'CLOCK WORKS MY TIME IS YOUR TIME
SO DO I I GO TO THE CITY SOMETIMES.
WE'LL CHECK ABOUT THE OTHERS AND WE'LL, WE WILL DISCUSS AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
SO NOW WILL I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OH, UH, ANYWAY, I'LL ASK AFTER WE ADJOURN.
YOU WANNA MAKE SO MOVED? SECOND.