* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. EVENING EVERYONE. UH, [00:00:01] WELCOME TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING. UM, I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. UM, CHARLES, DO WE HAVE MAILINGS IN ORDER? YES, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY MY STAFF THAT ALL THE MAILINGS ARE IN ORDER AND WE THINK WE ARE BEING RECORDED. WE ARE DEFINITELY BEING RECORDED. OKAY. WE WON'T SHAKE, THEY WON'T SHAKE THE MIC ANYMORE. I MEAN, THE CAMERA ANYMORE, . EXCELLENT. OKAY. WELL, TONIGHT WE HAVE, UH, THREE CASES. UM, JUST A QUICK NOTE ON HOW THIS WILL GO. UM, WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANTS OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT THE CASE. UH, THE BOARD WILL ASK ANY QUESTIONS, UH, OF THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC, UH, FOR ANY COMMENTS. UH, AND THEN THE BOARD WILL, UH, DISCUSS THE CASE AND VOTE. UH, IF YOU COME UP TO THE MIC, UH, EITHER AS AN APPLICANT OR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE. UM, I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY IT ON PROCESS. UH, ONE MORE NOTE, UM, BEFORE WE START OFFICIALLY, UM, I'M SITTING HERE AS THE INTERIM CHAIR BECAUSE THE LONGTIME CHAIR OF THIS BOARD, UM, IS GOING TO BE MOVING FROM HASTINGS. AND SO I JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT ON THE RECORD TO RECOGNIZE JERRY QUINLAN, UH, IF FOR HIS DECADES OF, UH, BOTH CONTRIBUTIONS AS A RESIDENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND IN VARIOUS POSITIONS, UH, INCLUDING TRUSTEE AND CHAIRING THIS BOARD TWICE, UH, HE IS CERTAINLY A ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN HASTINGS AND HE WILL BE MISSED. ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND . SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, WE [Case No. 10-25] WILL START WITH CASE NUMBER 10 25, UH, ADRIANA GUARDINI AND CRAIG YOUNGREN AT 40 WASHINGTON AVENUE. OH, JOSH, JUST, OH, GO AHEAD. YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. , GO AHEAD. FOR THE RECORD, THE PLANNING BOARD DID, UM, RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON, ON THIS VIEW PRESERVATION. EXCELLENT. RIGHT. HI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GABRIEL SEA. I'M THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTING A ADRIAN AND CRAIG. UM, I WANNA SECOND ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THANK NOTE TO JERRY AS A LONG TIME, UM, BOARD MEMBER AND, AND A FRIEND I HAD IN THE VILLAGE. UM, SO PUT A QUICK PRESENTATION TOGETHER HERE JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE DOING AT 40 WASHINGTON. UM, THIS HOUSE DATES BACK TO 1880, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. UM, 62. 62, EVEN OLDER. UM, AND IT HAS BEEN, UM, ADDED TO IT, UM, UH, SEVERAL TIMES. UM, THE, THE HOUSE SITS QUITE BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. HERE'S WASHINGTON ON THE, ON THE, ON THE MAP. UM, YOU HAVE THE CORONARY FOUR BURTON. THE, THE HOUSE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SET BACK LIKE PROBABLY 40 TO 50 FEET FROM THE, FROM THE FRONT YARD. AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF THIS MISSING TOOTH RIGHT ON THE, UM, UH, UH, ELEVATION OF, OF THE AVENUE. UM, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ADD, UH, OR COMPLETE THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, TO MATCH THE FIRST FLOOR. THERE'S A MISSING PIECE OF THE, OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND WILL, UH, THAT WE'LL BE ADDING TO, UM, UM, EXPAND THE INTERIOR LIVING SPACE BY 180 SQUARE FEET. UM, THIS MAP SHOWS ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE VINTAGE POINTS OF, UH, SOME PHOTOGRAPHS AND MONTAGES WE DID AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. UM, JUST A QUICK LOOK AT THE, UM, SITE SURVEY. UM, YOU CAN SEE, SORRY, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, UM, WASHINGTON ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. AND, UM, THE ADDITION IS, UH, SHADED IN YELLOW ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. YES. UM, THE CURRENT FLOOR PLANS OF THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE A, A PARTIAL BASEMENT THAT, UM, IS FOR THE STORAGE, A WHOLE STORAGE AND MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FIRST FLOOR. UM, YOU COME INTO A PORCH. THEN AS YOU ENTER THE HOUSE, THERE IS A STAIR THAT LEADS YOU UP TO THE BEDROOMS ABOVE, UM, A SMALL LIVING ROOM, UM, THAT'S OFF THAT STAIR ENTRYWAY. AND, UM, A GALLEY STYLE KITCHEN ON THE BACK, UM, UH, SIDE SIDED WITH A, UH, THE DINING ROOM AND A, AND A, A FAMILY ROOM ON THE, ON THE VERY BACK WITH A OF A BATHROOM UPSTAIRS. AS YOU CLIMB UP THE STAIRS, UM, YOU HAVE A MASTER, UH, OR THE MAIN BATHROOM, I SHOULD SAY, THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT HAS THE WINDOWS THAT FACE THE STREET. UM, AND YOU HAVE, UM, TWO BEDROOMS OR ONE AND A HALF BEDROOMS, UM, IN THE BACK, UM, AND A SMALL BATHROOM ALL THE WAY ON THE BACK THAT IS ONLY ACCESSED THROUGH ONE OF THE BEDROOMS. UM, SO THE PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH RENOVATE THE BACK PORTION OF THE HOUSE, THE INTERIOR OF THE FIRST FLOOR, AND, UH, OF COURSE THE, THE INTERIOR AND EXPANDED THE, THE, THE SECOND FLOOR. THIS IS HOW THE PLANS WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, FIRST FLOOR, WE ARE KEEPING THE LIVING ROOM AS IS CREATING A A LITTLE MUD ROOM AT THE ENTRY. AND, UH, ON THE BACK WE ARE OPENING UP THE KITCHEN TO THE DINING SPACE AND COM AND INCORPORATING THAT SPACE AHEAD. A FAMILY ROOM FOR A, UH, A LARGER OPEN SPACE, UM, KITCHEN SLASH DINING. UM, A LITTLE SMALL BUTLER'S PANTRY, UH, CORNER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR PLAN AND A POWDER ROOM, UH, BY THE END OF THE ENTRY [00:05:01] CORRIDOR. UM, UPSTAIRS, UM, WE ARE KEEPING THE, THE MAIN BEDROOM IN THE FRONT AND THIS, UH, SMALL OFFICE THAT FACE THE STREET AND ADDING TWO BATHROOMS. UM, ONE TO, UM, CONFIGURE, UH, AN ACTUAL MASTER SUITE AND, UH, A HALLWAY BATHROOM THAT WILL SERVE THE TWO BATHROOMS ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, UH, ELEVATIONS, UM, SHOWING, UM, EXISTING CONDITIONS AND, UH, THE POCHE AREA IS WHAT WE ARE DEMOLISHING. AND, UM, ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE YELLOW, UM, AREA INDICATING WHAT'S, UH, NEW FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. FOR THE RECORD, IT'S A TWO STORY EDITION, NOT A SECOND STORY EDITION. 'CAUSE I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR A SECOND STORY EDITION. IT'S A SECOND STORY. IT'S A SECOND STORY EDITION. YOU'RE NOT TAKING THE FIRST STORY DOWN. WE, WE ARE GONNA REBUILD TO THE FIRST FLOOR. YOU GONNA REBUILD THE FIRST OKAY. EXISTING PERIMETER. I GOT YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. OKAY. AND THEN SOME PHOTOS, UM, SHOWING ON THE TOP ROW AS IT'S CURRENTLY STAND AND WHAT WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING FOR OR HOW WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENT LOOK LIKE ONCE THEY ARE BUILT? UM, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, VIEWPOINTS, TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WILL BE ANY OBSTRUCTION OF THE RIVER OR THE PALISADES, UM, SQUEEZING INTO SOME NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES AND UP TO THE AQUEDUCT. UM, THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT, THAT THERE IS NOT MUCH OF A CHANGE, LIKE THE IMAGE ON THE, THE LAST COLUMN HERE, NUMBER SIX, UM, THERE'S NOT A CHANGE OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. UH, MINIMAL CHANGES ON, UH, NUMBER FIVE. AND, UM, NUMBER FOUR. AND SORRY, CAN YOU JUST GO THROUGH THE SIX VIEWS AGAIN AND JUST MENTION WHERE THEY'RE FROM? SO NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY AQUEDUCT. SURE. LET ME, LET ME GO BACK TO MY, UH, MAP. I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT AS NEAR THE PHOTOS WOULD BE EASIER TO DO THAT MAYBE. SORRY. SO NUMBER SIX IS FROM, UH, AS YOU WERE STANDING ON THE AQUEDUCT ON, UM, DIVISION, UM, UH, LANE. AND, UM, SO ONE, TWO, AND THREE ARE FLANKING ON, ON THIS PROPERTY HERE. LET ME GO THERE SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK. THIS IS ON THE DRIVEWAY. THERE'S A GARAGE BUILDING HERE. THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY OF THE NEIGHBOR THAT STOOD THE WEST OF OUR HOUSE. EAST, YEAH, EAST. I'M SORRY. UPHILL . AND NUMBER TWO, IF I FLIP BACK, IS IF YOU ARE MORE INSIDE THEIR PROPERTY. AND NUMBER THREE IS IF YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING OF THEIR DRIVEWAY, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE PHOTOS THAT DOESN'T SHOW ON THE TAX MAP IS THAT NEW TOWNHOUSES? HMM. THAT WERE BUILT ON WASHINGTON, I MEAN ON WARBURG. UM, HERE, THERE, YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES, RIGHT? AND UM, NUMBER, UH, FOUR IS FROM THE STREET AND NUMBER SIX IS FROM THE AQUEDUCT. SO ALL OF THESE ARE EITHER ADJACENT TO OR UPHILL FROM RIGHT, THE PROPERTY. YEAH. YEAH. I WAS FOCUSING ON, UH, HAVING THE POLICIES IN THE RIVER IN THE BACKGROUND TO SEE, RIGHT, YEAH. YEAH. SEE IF THE, THE VOLUME WOULD AFFECT THE VIEW. AND THOSE PHOTOS ARE TAKEN DURING THE WINTER, SO THERE'S NO FOLIAGE. YOU CAN REALLY SEE THROUGH IT, THE, THE RIVER. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD? I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THERE ARE NO LETTERS FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE PICTURES YOU JUST SHOWED US. WE'VE GOT NO COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS APPLICATION AND NO NEIGHBORS APPEARED AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING. THANK YOU. WHICH LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? I CAN , YOU DON'T HAVE TO . WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY HI, MY NAME IS CRAIG YOUNGIN AND I LIVE AT FORT WASHINGTON. AND REALLY THE, THE POINT OF THIS RENOVATION IS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH CLARK'S BEDROOM IN ORDER TO GET TO THE BATHROOM . AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. UM, WASN'T THE DOOR OUT TO THE DECK BACK THERE SOMEPLACE TOO? WELL THEY, THERE, I MEAN, SO IF I HAD A LOT OF MONEY, YEAH, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT ROOF DECKS HERE, BUT, UH, NO, NOT, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, TO EXTEND IT TO WHERE IT IS. BUT YES, THERE IS LIKE A DOOR THAT'S, THAT'S WALLED OFF. IT'S LIKE SHEET ROCK, BUT YOU COULD SEE IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, SO YEAH, IT'S FUNKY . ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. FOR SURE. UH, SO, UM, IN TERMS OF BOARD DISCUSSION, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T ONE WHERE THE FIVE FACTORS APPLY BECAUSE IT'S VIEW OF RESERVATION. SO OUR, OUR TEST HERE IS, UM, PROTECTING THE VIEWS OF THE RIVER AND PALISADES. [00:10:01] AND TO MY EYE, THEY'RE FAIRLY MINIMALLY, IF AT ALL, IMPACTED. AND, BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIEW PRESERVATION AND IMPACT TO THE, TO THE PASSAGE OF THE RIVER? NO, I MEAN, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY AND THIS WITH THIS AREA AND JUST FROM LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, IT REALLY DOES. I MEAN, IF THERE IS ANY IMPACT, IT'S INFINITESIMAL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S BLOCKED SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER PROPERTY, NOT THE RIVER OR THE PALISADES. SO, UM, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I BELIEVE ALSO THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, ARE WE COMFORTABLE, ANYONE COMFORTABLE MAKING A MOTION HERE? MAKING MAKE A MOTION? OKAY. LET ME KNOW IF MY FORMATTING IS CORRECT. UM, , IN CASE NUMBER 10 25, ADRIANA GINI AND CRAIG YOUNGREN, 40 WASHINGTON AVENUE MOTION TO APPROVE FOR VIEW PRESERVATION, UH, APPROVAL AS PER SECTION 2 9 5 82 OF THE VILLAGE CODE FOR A SECOND STORY EDITION ON THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT 40 WASHINGTON AVENUE. ANYONE CARE TO SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. UH, DO YOU, CAN WE DO, UM, ROLL CALL? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. YOU HAVE FOUR VOTES. IT'S UNANIMOUS. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK AND THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT [Case No. 11-25] UP WE HAVE CASE 1125. KATHLEEN SHEA AND JOHN LAB. LABAT OR LABATE? LABATE. THANK YOU. UH, 27 CROTON AVENUE. HELLO. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. HAVE TO HOLD YOUR MOUTH RIGHT. THE DREADED DONGLE. I DON'T WANNA WARM. SOMETIMES ABRACADABRA WORKS. IT'S FUNNY TOO. I LIKE THE ALTERNATE OFF AND ON AGAIN. BARK TURN WHAT? OFF THE COMPUTER OR THE, I THINK SOMETIMES IT JUST TAKES A SECOND. YEAH, IT JUST, IT DOES, IT JUST TAKES A SECOND. I WILL NOT BE, I'M MITCH KOCH. I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, JOHN AND KATHY ASKED ME TO HELP, UM, BASICALLY BUILD OUT A, A LITTLE ATTIC SPACE INTO A WALK-IN CLOSET AND A SMALL, UH, PRIMARY BATHROOM. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER PORT THAT YOU CAN PLUG THE HDMI INTO A DIFF? NO. UM, I DIDN'T, LET'S SEE. NO. DO YOU HAVE GOT ONE HDMI PORT? DO YOU HAVE A MAC? YOU CAN USE MINE IF YOU WANNA TRY IT. A WHAT? MAC. MAC. WHO SAID THAT? ARE YOU USING A MAC? NO, NO, NO. SORRY. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT THIS IS, I'M GONNA HAVE TO SHOW YOU AND I GUESS THE PUBLIC'S GONNA HAVE TO IMAGINE. IS THAT OKAY? I THINK GIVEN THERE'S NO PUBLIC HERE. YEAH, I KNOW. I THINK IT'S OKAY. YEAH, WE, WE, THREE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS UP HERE HAVE THEIR, AND WE'VE ALL REVIEWED IT PRIOR, SO. ALRIGHT. UM, SO TO THE PUBLIC, I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS LITTLE SNAP ROOM. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT KATHY, SHE CAME HERE, BROUGHT THIS LETTER FROM A NEIGHBOR, UM, AND IT WAS, UH, WRITTEN ON THE RECEIVED LEGAL NOTICE AND IT SAYS, MITCH, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK INTO A MINE. YEAH, MITCH, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. . I USUALLY PROJECT WELL ENOUGH. YES. UH, LETTER FROM NEIGHBORS, UM, FROM KEVIN AND CHERIE. AND IT SAYS GO FOR IT. CONGRATS. AND SO I'M JUST TENDERING THAT FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. VERY GOOD. BYE. THAT'S A DEAL. PERHAPS I REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER. IT SHOULD WORK. REBOOT MY COMPUTER. MM-HMM . HE'S AN ARCHITECT. HE'S NOT A TECHIE. , LIKE I SAID, TURN IT OFF AND ON AGAIN. THAT'S IT. RIGHT? THERE'S A JOKE ABOUT THAT, I THINK. OKAY, HERE WE GO. [00:15:04] I'M REBOOTING. UM, SO WHILE WE'RE WAITING, BY THE TIME IT REBOOTS, THERE'S TWO OLD GUYS, , AND ONE OF THEM SAYS TO THE OTHER ONE, HEY, WE SAW A MOVIE LAST NIGHT, YOU GUYS WOULD REALLY LOVE HIM. HIS FRIEND SAYS, WELL, WHAT'S IT CALLED? AND AT THAT MOMENT, OF COURSE HE'S HAVING A SENIOR, A SENIOR MOMENT AND UM, OH MY GOD. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ON THE TIP. IT'S WHAT'S IT CALLED? OH. OH, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FLOWER AND IT'S GOT THORNS. HE SAYS, YOU MEAN A ROSE? YES, ROSE. WHAT MOVIE DID WE SEE LAST TIME? TA AND NO SIGNAL. LEMME SEE. IS ROTH IN THE BUILDING? NO, JUST GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT. BUT LEAVE IT PLUGGED IN 'CAUSE IT MAY OF ITS OWN MAY COME AROUND. COME TO, COME AROUND. UM, SO IN, SO BASICALLY THE ISSUE WITH THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN FROM OUR DRAWINGS IS THAT THERE'S A PAPER STREET ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY BAKER LANE, WHICH REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A 30 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH MORE OR LESS, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, THE DRAWINGS GOES THROUGH THE RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE MAKING MOST OF THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY UNBUILDABLE AS OF RIGHT. UM, YOU GUYS STAMP STEPPING ON THE MICROPHONE. YOU'RE RIGHT. HELLO. ANYWAY. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. THE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ACTUALLY JUST PUT TWO SHED DORMERS ON AN EXISTING SMALL ATTIC ROOF TO GIVE US THE HEADROOM TO, UH, UH, ENABLE THEM TO STAND UP IN THEIR CLOSET AND HAVE A CODE COMPLIANT BATHROOM, WHICH REQUIRES 80 INCHES AT LEAST OF HEADROOM OVER THE BUSINESS END OF YOUR FIXTURES. UM, OTHERWISE IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE EVEN LOOKING AT ANYTHING ANYMORE, BUT THE FACT IS THAT, UM, WE WOULD PUT IN A WINDOWS FRONT AND BACK, HOPEFULLY AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BALANCE OUT THE, THE DORMERS, SO IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING. AND, UM, THAT'S KIND OF IT, IT'S REALLY A VERY SMALL, UM, ASK IN MY OPINION. OKAY. I, I WISH I COULD SHOW YOU, BUT WELL, UH, APOLOGIES TO THE PUBLIC, BUT AGAIN, WE DID RECEIVE THE MATERIALS IN ADVANCE AND, UM, MOST OF THE BOARD HAS THEM UP HERE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM. OH. AND, UM, AND I'M LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDERS. OH, GREAT. THANK YOU BETH. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UM, THE MATERIALS RECEIVED INDICATE A, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO COLOR HATCHES, ONE FOR EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY, ONE FOR ADDITIONAL NON-CONFORMITY. UM, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT YOU ARE ADDING ESSENTIALLY DORMERS TO A LOWER PORTION OF THE WINDOW AND CREATING SPACE INSIDE. IS THERE AN EXTENSION OF THE FOOTPRINT BEYOND EXISTING? NONE. OKAY. IN THE PLAN THAT IS COLORED, UH, AS IF IT WERE AN EX, UH, UH, IT'S NEW NON-CONFORMING? YES. WELL, IT'S, UM, THAT NEW CON NON-CONFORMING IS ONLY THE DORMERS. I SEE. BUT IT DOES COINCIDE IN PLAN WITH THE ENTIRE, IT COMPLETELY COVERS LITTLE BUMP OUT THERE. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE IT AFFECTS THE OUTCOME, BUT THE, THE TERM PAPER STREET, GIVEN THAT BAKER, I UNDERSTAND IT'S, IT'S BLOCKED OFF. UM, IT, IT'S NEITHER D MAPPED NOR, I MEAN IT IS PAVED SOMEWHAT. UH, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF BAKER AND DOES THAT AFFECT IT? IT'S STILL CONSIDERED A STREET MM-HMM . WHICH IS WHY IT HAS TO HAVE THE 30 FOOT SETBACK. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF YOUR LOOKING AT THE IMPACT OF ADDITION, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ACTIVE ROAD. OKAY. ACTIVELY IN USE. AND AGAIN, THE HOUSE ALREADY, THE, THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THE NON-CONFORMITY IN TERMS OF GETTING ANY CLOSER TO BAKER LANE. RIGHT. THEY'RE JUST ADDING AREA WITHIN THE SETBACK. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY CLEAR, HELPFUL PRESENTATION AND ACKNOWLEDGING IT IS A SMALL VARIANCE. I'M CURIOUS FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBORS IF THEY HAVE DORMERS AND DOES THIS FIT WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO IT HAPPENS THAT I DID A DORMER FOR SOME NEIGHBORS, UM, FOR THE LIKERS WHO ARE COUPLE HOUSES DOWN [00:20:01] CROTON. UM, THE, THESE HOUSES ARE PRETTY SMALL. UM, AND, UM, MANY OF THEM HAVE, IN FACT, I'VE DONE A FEW ON THE STREET, UM, REQUIRE A LITTLE HELP IN THE, ON THE SECOND FLOOR BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEY'RE, UM, THE BEDROOMS ARE SORT OF IN THE ROOF, UM, WHICH ADDS, YOU KNOW, TO THE CHARM FOR SURE. BUT, UM, NOW THE DRAWINGS JUST, OH, THERE, IT'S, SORRY, HERE WE GO. THEY'RE ALL OLDER HOUSES, BUT THIS HOUSE ITSELF ALSO ALREADY HAS DORMERS THIS HOUSE. UH, I, I'LL SHOW YOU WITH THE, NOW WE, NOW WE CAN LOOK. UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, AND THIS IS TRUE FOR THE OTHER SIDE TOO, THE BEDROOMS ARE IN THESE SHED DORMERS, WHICH ARE SORT OF MAKE PRETEND DORMERS, WHICH IS A TYPICAL MOVE IN, UM, THE, THE HOUSES AND THE HASTINGS. AND, UM, IN FACT IN MY LITTLE 3D MODEL, YOU CAN SEE ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF RECAPITULATING THAT, UM, HERE. UM, GONNA KEEP THE, THE EXISTING EVE LINE AND SET THE DORMERS BACK, ESSENTIALLY ALIGNING WITH THE WALL, WHICH IS ALSO A TRIED AND TRUE, UM, THING THAT'S DONE. AND SO THEN, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN GET A KIND OF A REAL ROOM, UM, UNDER THAT ROOF LINE. AND, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT. I MEAN, IT'S DONE. WE'VE DONE IT A LOT. UM, AND IT'S VERY TYPICAL HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? DID WE RECEIVE ANY LETTERS? JUST THAT ONE, THE ONE THAT MR HANDED US. OKAY. UH, OKAY. WELL, UM, ON THIS ONE AGAIN, WE, OUR CHARGE IS TO WEIGH FIVE FACTORS. SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE FACTORS AND IF ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAS ANY CONCERNS RELATIVE TO THAT FACTOR, UM, MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS THEM. SO THE FIRST FACTOR IS WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE. ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ALONG THOSE LINES? OKAY. NUMBER TWO. WHETHER THE BENEFIT SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME METHOD FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE OTHER THAN AN AREA ANCE. ANY CONCERNS? LET'S SAY JUST, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY GET THE SPACE WITHOUT, BECAUSE IT'S SO NON-CONFORMING ALREADY, THERE'S NO WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT NEEDING A VARIANCE BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T ADD ANYTHING WITHOUT NEEDING, YOU WOULD GO IN, IN ANY DIRECTION. YOU WOULD NEED A VARIANCE, WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VALENT VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL. IT'S BIG IN NUMBERS, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S JUST ADDING TO THE EXISTING NONCONFORMITY, IT'S NOT, UM, NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-CREATED, WHICH CONSIDERATION SHALL BE RELEVANT TO THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS, BUT SHALL NOT NECESSARILY PRECLUDE THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE. AND I THINK WE TYPICALLY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT'S SELF CREATED BECAUSE YOU COULD CHOOSE NOT TO DO THIS, BUT IN THIS CASE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE, AT LEAST TO ME, UH, THING TO DO ANY CONCERNS WITH THE FIFTH FACTOR. YEAH, IT'S ALSO REALLY, IT'S NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY, WHICH IS NOT SELF-CREATED. THE NEED, THE DESIRE FOR THE ADDITIONAL SPACE IS SELF-CREATED. BUT THAT YEAH. FAIR ENOUGH. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY THE BOARD? ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION HERE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. UM, CASE NUMBER, UH, ONE ONE DASH 25. CATHERINE SHEA AND JOHN LABATE. UM, 27 CROTON AVENUE. UH, MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, FOR RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH SIX EIGHT F1 C WITH 2 95 DASH FIVE FIVE A AND 2 95 DASH TWO ZERO F FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW DORMER ADDITION ON THE CORNER. LOT OF THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT 27 CROTON AVE. ANYONE CARRIED A SECOND? OKAY, I KNOW WHO YOU SAW. UH, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. DON'T JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. BOARD, BOARD, NOTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. [00:25:02] OKAY. AND [Case No. 12-25] LAST CASE FOR THE EVENING IS CASE NUMBER 1225 MARK AND JOANNA FORER. EIGHT, OH, SORRY. 69 VILLARD AVENUE. LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS. SHALL WE? YOU CAN TAKE, JUST, JUST PULL THAT ADAPTER OFF. THAT'S A-U-H-B-C EVEN BETTER. OKAY. SEE, I MEAN A-U-S-B-C, EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? UH, YES. AND WE'RE AT, WE'RE LIVE. ALRIGHT, PUT THIS BIGGER. OKAY. SO I AM NICOLE FROM HOPKINS ARCHITECT, UH, REPRESENTING MARK AND FAMILY. THEY'RE LOCATED AT 69 VILLARD. IT IS A CORNER LOT. UM, HERE'S THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PLACEMENT DOWN HERE, YOU CAN SEE. GET MYSELF ORIENTED. HERE WE ARE. UM, MOVING UP TO, THIS IS KIND OF A BETTER VIEW FOR OUR PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT VILLARD AVENUE HERE, EUCLID AVENUE HERE. THE, UM, PROJECT IS A MODEST REAR SINGLE STORY EDITION. IT IS BACK HERE, IT'S 61 SQUARE FEET. IT'S, UM, ADDING A, A SMALL POWDER ROOM HERE AND A SMALL MUD ROOM HERE. SO CURRENTLY 30% OF THE, UM, FOR THE REAR SETBACK PUTS US AT 23.38. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S EXISTING NON-CONFORMING ALREADY AT 8.87, RIGHT? THE HOUSE COMES OUT TO HERE. UM, IT, IT SHOULD FALL WITHIN HERE. WE'RE PROPOSING THIS SMALL BIT. SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 23.38 FEET AND 22.88 FEET, AS YOU CAN SEE MEASURED FROM THIS CORNER OF THE HOUSE. SO IT'S, UM, SIX INCHES. AND CURRENTLY THEY DO NOT HAVE A BATHROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SO IT'S, UM, IT'S JUST SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO FIT A MODEST POWDER ROOM HERE AND A SMALL MUDROOM TO, YOU KNOW, PLOP THEIR BELONGINGS. UH, AGAIN, THE OTHER RELEVANT PIECE IS THAT IT IS IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, SO WON'T BE SEEN FROM THE STREET. IT'S ONLY A SINGLE STORY ADDITION. AND IT IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT OVER WHERE THERE'S ALREADY DRIVE AND WALK. RIGHT PA IT'S ALREADY IMPERVIOUS PAVEMENT. SO WHILE THE FOOTPRINT IS, UM, VERY SLIGHTLY INCREASING, IT IS ALREADY OVER IMPERVIOUS. UM, I THINK THAT SUMS IT, SUMS IT UP FOR THE MOST PART. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE, UM, THE BREAKDOWN HERE OUTLINED. IT PUTS IT AT, HERE WE GO. UM, 8.87 IS THE EXISTING, IT'S, IT'S STAYING THE SAME. IT'S SIMPLY EXISTING NONCONFORMING. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT, THAT VARIANCE. IT, IT LOOKS HIGHER THAN IT IS WHILE WE'RE ONLY GOING OUT, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THE EXTRA SI SIX INCHES. IT'S STILL PREEXISTING NONCONFORMING. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU. NO. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS? ? I'LL JUST MENTION REALLY QUICKLY, I CAN HAVE, JUMP TO THE MIC AND JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. THANKS. OF COURSE. I'M MARK FORSCHER. I'M, YOU CAN RAISE THAT UP. OH, , YOU'RE TALL. THANKS. UMM, THE NEW HOME OWNER. UH, WE'RE NEW TO HASTINGS. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE PURPOSE AS NICOLE MENTIONED IS TO HAVE A POWDER ROOM, UH, SO THAT WE CAN LIVE IN THIS HOME FOR 30 YEARS. THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, THE POWERS WERE IN THE HOME FOR 30 YEARS AND WE'D LIKE TO RAISE OUR SON FOX HERE AND, AND STAY FOR 30 YEARS ALSO. AND JUST ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED A BATHROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR. WELCOME TO HASTINGS. WELCOME. OKAY. UM, WELL IN THAT CASE, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS THE FACTORS. UM, SO YEAH, THIS IS A VERY DIMI DIMINISH ONE. YEAH. UM, SO MAYBE WE CAN DO THE SHORT FORM HERE, BUT, UM, ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THERE WILL BE AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE PRODUCED TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ANYONE HAVE, UH, ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THE BENEFIT OF THOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD? UH, WE, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT 0.4 FEET IS A SMALL VARIANCE. UM, THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. SO I DON'T AN ALREADY IMPERVIOUS AREA. YEP. AND, UH, AND WHETHER IT WAS [00:30:01] SELF-CREATED, AGAIN, THIS IS I THINK SIMILAR IN THAT, UM, THAT'S ALREADY NONCONFORMING. IT'S BEING EXTENDED. UM, ONE, ONE THING MAYBE, UH, WELL I I THINK THERE ARE A LITTLE, THERE ARE SOME INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE ZONING TABLES IN THE DRAWINGS AND WHAT WAS, UM, MESSAGED TO THE PUBLIC. FORTUNATELY, WHAT WAS MESSAGED PUBLIC IS CORRECT. SO THIS IS, THIS IS NOT SUBSTANTIVE, BUT ONE REQUEST WE WOULD MAKE, UH, SHOULD WE APPROVE THIS VARIANCE, IS TO JUST CHECK IN WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR MM-HMM . AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ZONING TABLE SO THAT THE DRAWINGS THAT ARE APPROVED, UM, MATCH, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EIGHT FEET OR THE 23RD THREE FEET AND ALL THAT STUFF ON THE PERMIT SET. OKAY. YEAH. PERFECT. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT MATCHES WITH THE VARIANCE THAT'S GRANTED. OF COURSE. YEAH. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. IS ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THAT CONDITION? WITH THAT CONDITION? OKAY. UM, I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR CASE NUMBER 12 DASH 25 MARK AND JOANNA FORSTER AT 69 VILLARD AVENUE. RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH 68 F TWO A TWO WITH 2 95 DASH 20 F FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW REAR YARD. ADDITION ON THE CORNER LOT AT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DE DWELLING LOCATED AT 69 VILLARD AVENUE. AND THE MOTION WOULD BE WITH THE CONDITION THAT, UM, THE DRAWINGS THAT ARE SUBMITTED WITH THE PERMIT ARE ADJUSTED AS NEEDED TO MATCH THE ALIGN WITH WHAT, UH, WE ARE APPROVING TONIGHT. 20 SECONDS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. . AYE. AYE. AND THEN JUST SAFE FOUR, FOUR IN FAVOR. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHEERS. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, [Approval of Minutes] I THINK THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES. WAS EVERYBODY HERE? I WAS NOT. YOU ALL CAN VOTE. IT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO. YES. YES. WHO WAS HERE FOR THOSE? I THINK THE THREE OF US WERE HERE. YEAH. WERE YOU HERE? I WAS HERE FOR THAT. SO THREE IS ENOUGH? MM-HMM . YEP. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MEETING MINUTES? NO. ALRIGHT. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES AS WRITTEN? MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND. SECOND. ANYONE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THREE OR FOUR OF US. HEAD COUNT. UM, NEXT MEETING DATE [Announcements] IS JULY 24TH. UH, ANY OTHER BUSINESS? DO WE HAVE TO ELECT YOU? IS HE YES. NO. SO HE'S GOING TO GET APPOINTED. SHOULD WE CLOSE THEM? APPOINTED? SHOULD WE CLOSE THE MEETING? YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO ELECT HIM. HE WAS, HE WAS ACTING CHAIR FOR TONIGHT AS HE IS BEEN WHEN JERRY HAS MISSED OTHER MEETINGS AND THE, UM, PURSUANT TO THE CODE, IT'S ACTUALLY A MAYORAL APPOINTMENT YOU ELECT IF THE MAYOR DOESN'T. SO, AND I THINK SHE'S PLANNING TO DO THE APPOINTMENT. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. GOODNIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.