* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WELCOME TO THE [00:00:01] PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2025. UM, MARY ELLEN, WOULD YOU TAKE ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIR PERSON. EVA ALLGOOD HERE. BOARD MEMBER RICHARD BASS IS ABSENT. BOARD MEMBER ANJALI CHEN HERE. BOARD MEMBER DAVID GUNTON HERE. BOARD MEMBER PATRICK DIGGINS IS ABSENT BOARD MEMBER ERNESTO VIRO IS ABSENT. ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBER RICHARD MARTIN, PRESENT PLANNING CONSULTANT. PATRICK CLEARY IS ABSENT. VILLAGE ATTORNEY LINDA WHITEHEAD, HERE BUILDING INSPECTOR CHARLES MANZI HERE. GREAT, THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE A QUORUM THIS EVENING, BUT WE ARE ONLY FOUR, UM, BOARD MEMBERS. SO, UM, I JUST WANNA ALERT, UH, THOSE WHO ARE BEFORE US TONIGHT THAT ANY VOTE, UM, WOULD REQUIRE ALL FOUR OF US PRESENT TO VOTE IN FAVOR. SO WE'D LIKE TO ADVISE, UM, THE APPLICANTS OF THIS IN ADVANCE AND YOU CAN CHOOSE IF YOU WISH TO MOVE FORWARD THIS EVENING OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, HAVE A VOTE KNOWING IT WOULD NEED TO BE UNANIMOUS. SO WITH THAT, OKAY. UM, ALSO, BEFORE WE GO ON TO APPROVING MINUTES, UH, I DID WANT TO ADDRESS A MATTER THAT CAME UP AFTER OUR LAST MEETING IN AUGUST. UM, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, UM, NOTIFIED THE VILLAGE THAT HE WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR, UM, ALL OF US UP HERE AND WANTED TO KNOW, UM, OR EXPRESSED A CONCERN ABOUT A PROTOCOL AROUND THAT. SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS HAVING TROUBLE WITH AUDIO, UM, I'D LIKE THEM TO PLEASE COME UP TO OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR, UM, CHARLES MANZI. UM, JUST APPROACH HIM EITHER WITH A NOTE OR A VERY QUIET NOTIFICATION SO HE CAN BRING THE MATTER TO OUR ATTENTION. UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T INTERRUPT THE COURSE OF OUR PROCEEDINGS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT ISN'T TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM. SO, UM, THAT IS THE WAY WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT. SO ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC, UM, WHO'S WATCHING OR IS GONNA, UM, REVIEW THE TAPE, THAT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE IT. SO [II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UM, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, WE HAVE MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER, APRIL, JULY, AND AUGUST MEETINGS. UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALL FOUR OF US WERE AT ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS, , SO WE CANNOT APPROVE ANY OF THOSE SETS OF MINUTES TONIGHT. UM, BUT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE AVAILABLE, MARKED AS DRAFT, UM, ON THE VILLAGE WEBSITE AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPROVE, UM, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. WE GOT RID OF ONE LAST MONTH. YEAH, YEAH. WE'LL CHIP AWAY . YEAH, AND I SHOULD SAY TOO THAT UM, THE PUBLIC MAY NOTICE WE ARE, UH, DOWN ONE BOARD MEMBER, UM, WHO, UH, RESIGNED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. AND SO WE ARE ACTIVELY, UM, REPLACING OUR, UM, OPENINGS AND WE SHOULD HAVE LESS DIFFICULTY GETTING A QUORUM. UM, ESPECIALLY I THINK, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT WAS THE AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER MEETINGS ARE TOUGHER DUE TO SCHOOL STARTING AND VACATIONS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL BE BACK UP TO, UH, FULL, FULL STEAM, UM, STARTING HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO [IV. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS] WITH THAT WE HAVE THREE NEW MATTERS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. FIRST WE HAVE AN EXTENSION REQUEST, WHICH IS, UM, TWO 90 DAY EXTENSIONS OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SUBDIVISION. UM, THE APPLICATION OF MORGAN SIG AND MARGARET LAVENDER FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT AT THEIR PROPERTIES AT 1 0 1 AND ONE 11 SCENIC DRIVE SET PROPERTIES. SAID PROPERTIES ARE IN THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT AND ARE KNOWN AS FOUR, UH, 20 DASH 15 DASH THREE AND FOUR POINT 20 DASH 15 DASH FOUR, UM, L THREE ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS. SO, UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP HERE AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE? NOT HERE. NOT HERE. NOT HERE. OKAY. SO, UM, REALLY THIS IS, THIS IS A SIMPLE MATTER OF AN EXTENSION. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS I JUST SAID. UM, THE, THIS IS REQUIRED, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UM, SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS GET EXTENDED OR THERE HAS TO BE FORMALLY, UM, NOTICE TO US AND BROUGHT BEFORE, UM, US TO, TO APPROVE. SO DO I HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBERS QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR JUST TO EXPLAIN THE TWO 90 DAYS ON SUBDIVISION APPROVAL? THE APPROVAL'S GOOD FOR 180 DAYS AND THEN YOU CAN GET 90 DAY EXTENSIONS. THE PROBLEMS WITH SUBDIVISION APPROVALS RIGHT NOW IS THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS DEPART VERY SLOW. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF EXTENSION REQUESTS ON SUBDIVISIONS AND THAT'S WHY THEY ASK FOR TWO AT ONCE BECAUSE THEY KNOW YEAH, [00:05:01] . YEAH, WE'RE SEEING THAT ACROSS VARIOUS PROJECTS AND OF COURSE, UM, IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO THE, THE APPLICANTS OR THE APPROVED APPLICATIONS BEFORE US, UM, TO REQUIRE THEM TO EXPIRE AND THEN GO BEFORE US FULL OR A FULL ANOTHER REVIEW WHEN IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, WAITING FOR SOMETHING LIKE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL. SO, UM, OKAY. AGAIN, UM, WELL, I, I'LL JUST SAY, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT TWO 90 DAY EXTENSIONS OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL? SO MOVED. OKAY. SECOND. UM, AND ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. OKAY. THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. UM, SO ANOTHER EXTENSION REQUEST IS A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN, THE APPLICATION OF MARGARET HOOKAH FOR THE REPLACEMENT AND ENLARGEMENT OF A REAR DECK ON HER THREE FAMILY DWELLING AT 4 61 WAR BURTON SAID, PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE MRO ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL FOUR POINT 70 DASH 52 DASH 25 ON THE VILLAGE TAX MAPS. AND AGAIN, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE? NOT HERE. NOT HERE. SHE CAME DOWN WITH COVID TODAY. OH MY GOODNESS. THAT IS UNFORTUNATE. . IT'S STILL A THING. YEAH, IT'S STILL AROUND. JUST, I JUST GOT A MESSAGE A LITTLE WHILE AGO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CHARLES. SO, UM, LINDA, DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? YEAH, SO THIS WAS A SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SITE PLAN APPROVALS ARE GOOD FOR ONE YEAR. UM, YOU HAVE TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT AND START WORK WITHIN A YEAR OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL. UM, I'M NOT SURE CHARLES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHY SHE HASN'T GOTTEN STARTED YET. FAMILY ISSUES IN SAN FRANCISCO. SHE HAD TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN SAN FRANCISCO OVER THE LAST YEAR. SHE'S DOING THIS PROJECT TO MOVE HER BROTHER INTO THE VILLAGE, UM, HER HANDICAP BROTHER INTO THE VILLAGE AND UM, THERE WAS SOME FAMILY ISSUES BACK, BACK IN CALIFORNIA. SO SHE'S BEEN DELAYED? YEAH, SHE GOT DELAYED. SHE JUST COULDN'T GET TO IT, IS WHAT SHE HAS EXPLAINED TO ME. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WELL AGAIN, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'D WANNA PENALIZE HER FOR. UM, SO, UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? NONE HERE. NO. OKAY. SO DO, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL? I'LL LOOK. THIS SO MOVED. SO MOVED. OKAY, SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. AND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AS WELL. I'LL LET HER KNOW. THANK, I'LL LET BOTH OF THE APPLICANTS NO THANK YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU. OKAY, WONDERFUL. AND FOR FUTURE, FOR, UH, FUTURE, UM, AGENDAS, YOU WOULD LIKE THE EXTENSIONS TO GO ON OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS? NO, THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THEY CAN JUST GO IN A SEPARATE, UM, THEY'RE DISCUSSION ITEMS OR THEY CAN BE LIKE A DISCUSSION ITEM OR JUST SEPARATE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WE DON'T NOTICE THEM. THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS. OKAY. OKAY. WE'LL MAKE NOTE. THANK YOU. MAKE A NEW NUMBER AND JUST PUT EXTENSIONS OR . YEAH. OKAY. SPECIAL SECTION. WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE, WE WILL GET SOMETHING GOING. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE ONE NEW PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING AND UM, THAT IS A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION OF TRAVIS AND FIONA NOY. I HOPE I DIDN'T, UM, MISPRONOUNCE THAT TO CREATE A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS PER SECTION 2 95 DASH 67 D 0.2 B ABOVE THE DETACHED GARAGE ON THEIR SINGLE FAMILY LOT AT 3 24 FARGATE AVENUE. AND SAID PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.1 10 DASH 1 24 DASH SEVEN ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS. AND, UH, NO WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS APPLICATION. SO WITH THAT, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT? SURE. UH, MY NAME IS EDWARD WEINSTEIN. I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, THE APPLICANT, TRAVIS NO IS ALSO HERE. AND, UH, I THINK YOU'VE DESCRIBED THE PROJECT, UH, NO WAVE IS REQUIRED. IT'S AN EXISTING, UH, TWO CAR GARAGE, UH, DETACHED FROM THE HOUSE. UH, AND THE PLAN IS TO PUT A STUDIO APARTMENT ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT, UH, GARAGE. AND, UH, THE, THE ONLY STRUCTURAL CHANGES ARE EX EXTENDING TWO, UH, DORMERS IS AN EXISTING DORMER AND WE'RE JUST EXTENDING IT FOR THE FULL WIDTH OF THE STRUCTURE. UH, THAT'S IT. DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT IT UP ON OUR SURE. SCREEN IF YOU HAVE THAT SO THAT, UM, WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT. IT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT NEWS ONLY BECAUSE IT IS, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR OF A GARAGE. UM, I KNOW IT'S A LARGE PROPERTY. UM, BUT WE, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LOOK AT THE WAY THAT THE PARKING WORKS OUT IN THE PLAN AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO [00:10:01] WAIVERS, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE THE PARKING, THEY MEET THE SQUARE FOOTAGES MINIMUM MAXIMUM FOR A DU, THOSE UM, REQUIREMENTS, THEY DO NEED VARIANCES. YES. SO, UM, BECAUSE THE GARAGE IS NON-CONFORMING AND THEY'RE INCREASING THE NON-CONFORMING HEIGHT BY ADDING THE DORMERS. SO ALL YOU CAN REALLY DO TONIGHT IS REFER THEM FIGURED WHILE IT'S SETTING UP . YEAH, THAT'S HELPFUL. ALL YOU CAN REALLY DO TONIGHT IS REFER THEM TO THE ZONING BOARD. UM, BUT IT'S HELPFUL FOR THEM TO KNOW IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT BEFORE THEY GO TO THE ZONING BOARD AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANNA DO A SHORT NOTE TO THE ZONING BOARD. YEAH, I MEAN, AND GENERALLY WE LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR OPINION ON THE PROJECT TO THE ZONING BOARD. GENERALLY WE DON'T REFER THEM OVER UNTIL WE ARE COMFORTABLE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED, UM, APPLICATIONS, BUT IT'S STILL, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS TOGETHER AND JUST, UM, SEE IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. YEP, I AGREE. YEAH, TOTALLY FIND THOSE PLANS. WE GAVE YOU TIME . THAT'S OKAY. IT'S, AND I'LL SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT'S NICE TO SEE APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE US WITH THESE KINDS OF ADDITIONS OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. IT'S PART OF A STATE FUNDED, UM, OR STATE SUPPORTED, UM, PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE THE ADDITION OF, UM, A DU UNITS. AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING IN THE GARAGE, THEY'RE KEEPING THE GARAGE, THE PARKING IN THE GARAGE. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT PUTTING A STRAIN ON, ON UH, ON STREET PARKING. YEAH, EXACTLY. OKAY. OKAY. SO THIS IS A, UH, A SITE PLAN. THE, UH, PROPERTY IS AT THE CORNER OF FAR PARKWAY AND FARIN AVENUE. UH, I'LL TAKE THE MIC AND I CAN OH, SORRY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ED, COULD YOU JUST, I I THINK YOU DIDN'T INTRODUCE YOUR SIDE. I JUST REMEMBERED THAT I I DID, I DID. YOU DID EDWARD WEINSTEIN. I'M THE ARCHITECT. YOU DID? OKAY. THANK YOU. DID IT AGAIN, . OKAY. SO, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, THE EXISTING SITE PLAN. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE GARAGE IS, UH, ON THE UPPER PART OF THE PROPERTY AND IT, IT IS NON-COMPLIANT IN TERMS OF SIDE YARDS. AND BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THE USE, WE WILL HAVE TO GO FOR A VARIANCE. AND I THINK ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE EXTENDING THE DORMERS, THE, UH, THE BUILDING IS 21 FEET HIGH, WHEREAS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS LIMITED TO 15 FEET. IT'S ALSO LIMITED TO ONE STORY, ISN'T IT? SO IS THIS MAKING IT A TWO STORY? NO, THE SECOND STORY OF THE GARAGE IS ALREADY THERE. OH. BUT THEY SAID, CONSIDERED A STORY WHEN THEY WENT FOR, UM, I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. WHEN THEY WENT FOR, WHEN THEY BUILT THE GARAGE, UH, WHEN THEY EXTENDED THE, THEY GOT A VARIANCE FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE GARAGE. MM-HMM . WHEN THEY BUILT IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. OH, OKAY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE TALKED ABOUT STORIES. I DON'T REMEMBER. OKAY. SO THIS IS A VIEW OF THE EXISTING GARAGE. YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE TWO EXISTING DORMERS AND THE, UH, IN THE PROPOSED SITUATION WE'RE, UH, EXTENDING THOSE, THOSE DORMERS. I I THINK THOSE ARE, THAT'S ON A DIFFERENT PLAN, WHICH I WON'T GET TO. AND I SHOULD MENTION WITH THE DRAWINGS WE SUBMITTED ARE ACTUALLY PROBABLY SUFFICIENT FOR A, A BUILDING PERMIT 'CAUSE THEY, WE COM YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENERGY CODE AND THE BUILDING CODE. WE'RE ADDING, UH, AN ADDITIONAL EGRESS WINDOW BECAUSE THERE WAS ONLY, UH, ONE, ONE MEANS OF EGRESS. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN. AND I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO FIND, IS IT JUST USED FOR STORAGE NOW? CURRENTLY FOR STORAGE, YES. AND WILL THE HEIGHT OF THE SECOND STORY BE INCREASED WHEN YOU STUDENTS? I WILL NOT BE INCREASED, BUT THE, THE, THE, UH, THE DORMER WILL BE INCREASED IN SIZE. SO IT, THE DORMER ITSELF WILL, UH, BE HIGHER THAN 15 FEET. SO THEREFORE WE'RE, IT'S AN INCREASE OF AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY AS FAR AS THEY'RE ADDING MORE TO IT, NOT GOING ANY WORSE. I SEE. [00:15:01] OKAY. OKAY. AND I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE PROPOSED DRAWING. I DON'T SEE IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS ON THE SAME SET. NOT, NO, WELL IN ANY CASE IT'S JUST ONE SPACE ON THE SEC ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WHAT YOU SEE AS THE, THE, UH, EXISTING FLOOR PLAN IS GONNA REMAIN PRETTY MUCH THE SAME EXCEPT THERE'LL BE A KITCHEN AND, AND A BATHROOM. ONE OF THE BATHROOM IS GONNA BE IN ONE SECTION WHERE WE'RE EXPANDING THE DORMER AND, AND UH, IT'S BASICALLY IT'S ABOUT 350 SQUARE FEET EXISTING. UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING ABOUT 84 SQUARE FEET WITH THE TWO DORMERS. SO IT'LL BE NICE, DECENT SIZED STUDIO APARTMENT. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO HAVE A, A SPACE FOR ONE, UH, ADDITIONAL CAR TO THE, UH, TO THE LEFT OF THE EXISTING GARAGE, WHICH, UH, WILL STILL ALLOW THE TWO CARS TO ENTER AND LEAVE THE GARAGE. SO IT'LL BE IN A NEW OUTDOOR SPACE. YEAH. CAN YOU SHOW THAT SHEET? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY, THERE WAS ONE DRAWING THAT SHOWED A CAR AT AN ANGLE IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE. YES. AND MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT HOW THE OTHER TWO CARS GET IN AND OUT. I, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO HAVE CARS STACKED IN THE DRIVEWAY IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM, BUT I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE PLANNING TO, TO YES. UM, LAY OUT THE PARKING 'CAUSE YOU'LL NEED PARKING FOR THREE. OKAY, THREE CARS. SO THIS IS THE COMPLETE SET THAT WE SUBMITTED. UH, THERE, IT'S, SO THAT SHOWS THE TWO. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED AND YOU ARE LOOKING, YOU ARE LOOKING TO SEE THE SITE PLAN. YEAH. SO THAT'S THIS, IT WAS A DIFFERENT DRAWING. KEEP GOING. THAT'S THAT. NOW THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE, UH, THE PARKING SPACE THAT'S SHOWN IN DOTTED LINES. NOW YOU HAD ONE WITH A CAR IN, I DON'T SEE THE CAR IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE. IT'S A DIFFERENT PLACE ON YOU SAW RIGHT HERE. OKAY. ON THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED, IT ACTUALLY SHOWED IT ON THE OTHER SIDE. ON, ON THE RIGHT. YES. YEAH. AND IT, I NEED IT, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DOORS, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO SETS OF GARAGE DOORS. YES. SO I CAN'T TELL FROM THIS DRAWING EXACTLY HOW IT'S GONNA WORK. SO THEY'RE OKAY. THIS IS, THESE ARE THE TWO EXISTING GARAGE DOORS AND THE, UH, OUTDOOR SPACES OFFSET SUFFICIENTLY SO THAT IT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH A CAR, YOU KNOW, ENTERING AND LEAVING THE GARAGE BOTH DOORS. 'CAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DRIVEWAY, AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO YEAH, WE'RE TALKING IN ABSTRACT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DRAWING. IT SHOWS US BACK TO SITE PLAN. BLOW THAT UP. SO YOU MEAN THIS THE, UH, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT THAT'S NOT THE ONE. THAT'S NOT THE ONE. NO, IT'S NOT THE THERE YOU'RE SAYING THERE WAS ANOTHER, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE CAR AT AN ANGLE PARKED IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE ON SIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE. SIDE. OTHER SIDE. THIS WAS THE MOST, THE ONE ONLINE WITH OBVIOUSLY THE ONES WE REVIEWED. NO, THIS IS THE, UNLESS YOU'VE HAD IT ON YOUR FLASH DRIVE. I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE HARD DRAWING. NO, YOU SAW IT TOGETHER. I DIDN'T BRING MY COMPUTER. GO AHEAD. TRAVIS IS GONNA DO THE POINTING. OKAY, SURE. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TRAVIS, THERE IT IS. USE THE HANDHELD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE. OKAY. TRAVIS? NO PROPERTY OWNER. SO WE OFTEN HAVE THREE CARS IN OUR, OUR ALREADY. UM, SO BASICALLY WE HAVE TWO CARS THAT COME IN DIRECTLY RIGHT HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE A THIRD ONE JUST COMES RIGHT TO THE SIDE AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR US TO KIND OF COME OUT HERE. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S ALREADY KIND OF A PROVEN USE FOR US JUST TO SHOW YOU WE'RE NOT CRAZY. YEAH. CAN WE SHOW THEM? YEAH, THERE IS, THERE IS A SHEET THAT YEAH, THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD HAS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT SHOWS IT ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT'S JUST, UH OH, I SEE THAT. WELL, I GUESS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK WELL, WE CHANGED IT . ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU COME BACK AFTER GOING TO THE ZONING BOARD, MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOARD HAS THE CORRECTED CLAIM. LEMME MAKE SURE WE SUBMIT THE CORRECT PLANS ONTO THE GLASS DRIVE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT HARD COPY. WILL DO. YEAH. UM, AND CAN I SEE THAT NUMBER FOR A SECOND? SO, SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT YEAH, NO, I GET THAT. I GET THAT. I JUST THINK THAT WITH THE WAY [00:20:01] THE DRAWING IS SHOWN, WE CAN'T TELL THAT THE, UM, GARAGE DOORS ARE OFFSET TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ISN'T A PROBLEM. SO WHAT I'LL DO FOR THE NEXT MEETING IS PREPARE A, A BLOW UP OF THAT SECTION OF THE SITE PLAN, WHICH WILL SHOW YOU WHERE THE DOORS ARE LOCATED AND WHERE THE PARKING SPACE IS LOCATED. YES. SO TO MAKE IT CLEAR YEAH, I I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE COVER THIS PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT IT ABSOLUTELY IT CAN FIT THREE CARS WITHOUT A PROBLEM. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ISN'T A PROBLEM, BUT WE JUST NEED THE DRAWINGS TO PROVE THAT. RIGHT. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP IN MIND THERE'S ALSO, THERE'LL BE ACTUALLY FIVE SPACES BECAUSE THE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE, WE CAN HAVE A TANDEM SPACE YES. BEHIND US BEHIND IT. OKAY. THERE, THE GARAGE IS BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN, THE GARAGE WILL CONTAIN THE CAR AND ONE CAR OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE GARAGE. THE SITE IS BIG ENOUGH. IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET IN A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT DISTRICT. YEAH. IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE PROPERTY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN, JUST COME UP. IT'S REALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE A TENANT BE PART OF A TANDEM PARKING SITUATION. NO, IT COULDN'T BE THE TENANT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE OTHER ONE. ACTUALLY. I, I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A PHOTO OF IT. SHE LIKE TO SEE. YEAH, THAT PHOTO WOULD ACTUALLY BE VERY, YEAH, VERY HELPFUL. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT THE BEST ONE, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF LOOKING DOWN, BUT UH, YOU SEE THE TWO, UH, STALLS THERE AND THEN YOU SEE THAT CAR KIND OF PARKED, UH, ADJACENT OH YEAH. TO THE END THERE. SO THAT'S JUST HOW, HOW IT GOES IN. AND WE USE IT OFTEN FOR CARS. OH YEAH. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. SO CAN YOU SUBMIT THIS PHOTO WITH THE NEXT SET OF DRAWINGS ? YEAH, FOR SURE. YOU WANNA SHOW IT? I CAN GET A BETTER ONE TOO IF YOU WANT. IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT YEAH. SO THE CORRECTED PLAN AND THE PHOTO SHOWING IT AND THAT'LL BE FINE. YEAH. VISUALS ALWAYS HELP ONCE, ONCE YOU SEE IT. YEAH. THANKS. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THINK MAKES SENSE. DO DO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON THIS ONE? NO. SO THE NEW DORMER IS GONNA BE THE ENTIRE YES. LENGTH OR, OR WIDTH RATHER OF THE STRUCTURE, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. WELL ACTUALLY NOT, NOT THE FULL WIDTH, BUT THAT'S, UH, LET'S SEE. THIS, IS IT AL ALMOST THE FULL WIDTH? YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING IS THE SECTION THAT'S LIGHT. THE TWO DARKENED SECTIONS ARE ADDITION SHEETS. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A NEIGHBOR IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. GREAT. UM, SPEAKING OF THAT, DO WE, UM, HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. KATHY SODERSTROM. I AM THE DIRECT NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. AND YES, A CAR IS PARKED THERE EVER SINCE THE BOYS GOT OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE. THEY'VE HAD A SPARE CAR THAT ONE OF THEIR KIDS COULD DRIVE IF THEY WERE HOME FROM COLLEGE OR WHATEVER. I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS. THIS IS PERFECTLY FINE. THE BUILDING IS THERE. THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THAT BUILDING. AND IF I CAN SPEAK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, I JUST WAS WITH MICHAEL GUNTHER IN ANOTHER MEETING WHO'S ACROSS THE STREET AND I SAID, MICHAEL, DO YOU CARE? HE SAID, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE THAT THEY BUILD IT. SO WE'VE GOT TWO PUBLICS IN FAVOR OF THIS. NO PROBLEMS WITH IT BEING DONE. CORRECT. JUST YOUR ADDRESS. THREE 40 FARGATE AND YOU'RE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE GARAGE? I'M DIRECTLY, MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THAT. YEAH. GREAT. WELL, WE, WE LOVE IT WHEN NEIGHBORS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF EACH OTHER'S. UM, AND THE OTHER ONE IS 3 47 DIRECTLY ACROSS MICHAEL GUNTHER. YEAH. WHO SAID, OH, KATHY. YEAH. TELL HIM I'M FINE. THAT'S GREAT. GREAT. WELL WONDERFUL TO HEAR THAT. AND WE DID IN OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UM, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PLANS, WE, WE WENT ONTO GOOGLE MAPS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE GARAGE TO SEE IS THAT REALLY CLOSE AND POTENTIALLY A PROBLEM, UM, FOR THIS PROPOSAL. AND WE NOTICED THAT IT'S, IT, I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR GARAGE. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO WE, WE FIGURED THAT PROBABLY WAS NOT GOING TO DISRUPT YOUR, YOUR HOUSE IS PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM THE, THE GARAGE, SO, AND I CAN'T, WE HAVE, HOLLY YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE LIGHT. WE HAVE SOME HOLLY BUSHES THAT HAVE BEEN GROWING OVER THE YEARS. MM-HMM . I CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT GARAGE FROM MY HOUSE. OKAY, GREAT. FROM MY SIDE PROPERTY. OKAY. WONDERFUL. WELL THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, REALLY GOOD TO HEAR. SO, UM, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE, FROM THE PUBLIC HERE, SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, COMMENTS THIS EVENING. UM, ALRIGHT. UH, WITH THAT WE ARE, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, GOING TO NEED TO REFER THIS OVER TO THE, UM, ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE APPLICATION NEEDING A NUMBER OF VARIANCES. UM, SO DO, DO WE, I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK WE NEED A FORMAL MEMO. UM, MAYBE WE CAN JUST NOTE THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING, BUT THAT THEY WERE ADDRESSED AND WE'LL GET DOCUMENTATION. UM, IT CAN BE TWO SENTENCES. YEAH. IT CAN SAY THE PLANNING BOARD [00:25:01] WAS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION AND THAT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED ABOUT THE PARKING. YEAH. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS FINE TO ME. THAT SOUNDS PERFECT. YEAH. GOOD. YEAH, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO HEAR THAT. WE, WE, WE APPROVE OF THE, WHAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL APPROVAL, BUT THAT WE ARE, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, APPLICATION FOR VARIANCES. SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, OKAY. UH, SO YOU'LL DRAFT JUST A COUPLE SENTENCES, LINDA. THANK YOU. UM, SO THIS IS A VERY SHORT AGENDA THIS EVENING. UM, YOUR APPLICATION CAN NOW GO TO THE ZONING. THANK YOU APPEALS. AND, UM, THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE NO OTHER MATTERS, UM, ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. AS A REMINDER TO MY FELLOW PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON OCTOBER 16TH. AND, UM, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR TIME OF SEVEN O'CLOCK THIS EVENING. WE MADE IT EIGHT. FRANKLY, I LIKE EIGHT O'CLOCK, BUT , WE WE'RE NOT GONNA CONFUSE THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT AND CHANGE IT BACK, BUT, UH, IF IT CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM FOR SOME OF US TO GET HERE BY SEVEN, WE MAY HAVE TO REVISIT IT OR MAKE IT SEVEN 30 OR SOMETHING. BUT FOR NOW IT'S SEVEN . UM, ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. OKAY, THEN SECOND. SECONDED. AND ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.