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WELCOME.UM, MARY ELLEN, WILL YOU TAKE ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIRPERSON.
BOARD MEMBER RICHARD BASS HERE.
BOARD MEMBER DANIEL BERKOVITZ HERE.
BOARD MEMBER DAVID GUNTON HERE.
BOARD MEMBER ERNESTO VIGORO HERE.
VILLAGE ATTORNEY LINDA WHITEHEAD IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT TARN RAMEY RAMEY IS WITH US.
UH, DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR, CHRIS ZELINSKI.
UM, WITH THAT I WANNA WELCOME OUR NEWEST PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, DANIEL OVITZ.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO STEP UP AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OFFER YOUR SERVICES AS A, A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL THE AUDIENCE OR, OR YOUR FELLOW PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF? YEAH, THANK YOU.
UM, I'M A LAWYER AND AND PLANNER ACTUALLY BY BACKGROUND.
UH, AND MOVED TO HASTINGS WITH MY, MY WIFE AND TWO KIDS ABOUT JUST UNDER TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
UM, HAVE WORKED IN A VARIETY OF SORT OF FACTUALLY PLANNING RELATED FIELDS.
UM, BUT I SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WORKING IN THE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY.
AND WE'RE, UM, GLAD YOU HAVE RELEVANT EXPERIENCE AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR INPUT ON OUR, AT OUR MUTES.
SO WITH THAT, UM, OKAY, WE ALREADY MENTIONED, UH, WELL, I'LL JUST MORE FORMALLY INTRODUCE, UM, SINCE OUR REGULAR COUNCIL, LINDA WHITEHOUSE IS, WHITEHEAD IS OUT.
UM, WE'RE JOINED BY HER ASSOCIATE, TARAN RAINEY, WHO I CAN'T SEE, BUT SHE'S RIGHT THERE.
[II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
AND, UM, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA TURN TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND FOR ONCE WE ACTUALLY CAN APPROVE SOME, WE'VE HAD THEM HANGING OUT 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD CONSTELLATIONS THAT DIDN'T MATCH UP WITH WHO WAS PRESENT AT THE MEETINGS AND PREVIOUS BOARD MEETINGS.SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA START WITH THE JULY 17TH, 2025, UM, MINUTES.
AND AT THAT MEETING, UH, RICHARD ANGELIE AND PATRICK AND I WERE THERE.
SO WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ANY COMMENTS ON JULY? NO, NO PROBLEM.
UM, YOU REMEMBER THE JURY
UM, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.
SO PATRICK, RICHARD, AND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO NEXT WE HAVE THE, UM, AUGUST 21ST, 20, 25 MINUTES.
AND I WAS THERE ALONG WITH RICHARD, PATRICK, AND DAVID.
SO DO I HAVE, DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE ON A ROLL, BUT THAT IS ALL WE CAN APPROVE, UM, THIS EVENING.
SO WE'LL TAKE THIS UP AT ANOTHER MEETING.
[III. OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS]
SO WE HAVE THIS EVENING, WE HAVE THREE OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE SEEN THE AGENDA AND OR ARE WATCHING, UM, VIRTUALLY YOU'LL NOTICE, AND THIS HAPPENS EVERY MONTH, BUT, UM, JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT WE KEEP, WHEN YOU SEE ON OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU SEE, UM, ITEMS THAT SAY DEFERRED TO FUTURE MEETING IN RED.
THAT MEANS THEY'RE STILL UNDER REVIEW.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT, UM, DECIDED TO COME FORWARD THIS MONTH WITH WHATEVER THE NEXT STEP IS IN THEIR PROCESS.
THAT MEANS IT'S STILL OPEN IN A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, OPEN FOR REVIEW AND STILL ON OUR AGENDA FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.
SO WITH THAT, THE FIRST, UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT, UM, IS AN OLD PUBLIC HEARING, IS THE VIEW PRESERVATION ADVISORY AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION OF RTB WASHINGTON LLC FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, CREATING ONE COMMERCIAL SPACE AND 20 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH 20 PARKING SPACES, AND A PUBLIC ACCESS VIEWS ON TWO EXISTING BUILDING LOTS LOCATED AT NINE DASH 17 WASHINGTON AVENUE.
SAID, PROPERTY IS IN THE MRC REZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.70 DASH 48 DASH 37 AND 38 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS.
SO, UM, THIS MATTER HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA SEVERAL TIMES.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED REVISED PLANS, AND IN ADDITION, THEY PROVIDED A MOCKUP OF THE REVISED BUILDING AND BOARD MEMBERS WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY THIS PAST WEEKEND, UM, TO REVIEW THE MOCKUP FROM SEVERAL LOCATIONS, INCLUDING
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OUTSIDE AND FROM WITHIN PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.AND, UM, SO THE BULK OF OUR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING WILL RELATE TO WHAT WE SAW AND THE VIEW PRESERVATION ISSUE.
SO I'D LIKE TO START BEFORE WE, UM, GET INTO THAT.
UH, I, WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE SOMETHING BEFORE.
WELL, BEFORE THE APPLICANT SPEAKS.
WELL, I WAS GONNA INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK
RICHARD, WHAT? SO I APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE SITE VISIT AND SEEING THE VIEW CORRIDOR, BUT THIS BOARD HAS DISCUSSED, UM, REMOVING THE TREES MULTIPLE TIMES.
I FIND I CAN'T MAKE A JUDGMENT WITH THOSE TREES IN PLACE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A VIEW CORRIDOR WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO LAY THIS ITEM OVER UNTIL THOSE TREES ARE REMOVED.
UM, I, I, I'M DULY NOTING THAT, BUT I ALSO AM GONNA GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT, UM, WHAT THEY WANTED TO PRESENT.
AND SINCE WE DID GO, I THINK THOSE OF US WHO WANNA COMMENT ON WHAT WE SAW WILL, AND CERTAINLY, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, BUT
I HEAR, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, AND LET'S HEAR WHAT THE OTHER PLANNING BOARDS MEMBERS SAW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THEY SURMISED FROM THE, UM, THE MOCKUP IN THEIR SITE VISIT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
AND, AND THE QUESTION OF THE TREES HAS COME UP MANY TIMES, BUT TOO MANY TIMES.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A REALLY CLEAR VIEW, UH, WITH THE ADDITION WITHOUT THE TREES.
UM, BECAUSE OH, WE ALSO CAN WAIT FOR THE LEAVES TO FALL.
SO
SO, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO, UH, INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME AND, UH, MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
WE KNOW THAT THE MAJOR CHANGE FROM LAST TIME WAS THE, UM, THE BULKHEADS, UH, ON THE THIRD FLOOR ON YEAH.
AND, UM, WE, WE DID ASK FOR THE MOCK UP, SO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN.
THANKS, MADAM CHAIR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS NEIL DELUCA, PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP NINE 17 WASHINGTON AVENUE.
UH, WITH ME IS CHRISTINA GRIFFIN, UM, ARCHITECT FROM CGA.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU TONIGHT IS WHAT CHRISTINA AND HER TEAM CAME UP WITH ON THE BULKHEADS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA SHOW YOU TALK TO FIRST ABOUT IS WHEN YOU SAW THE BULKHEADS ON THE LOWER BUILDING, YOU SAW TYVEK, UH, ON HALF OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE, THE BUILDING WILL BE BUILT AND EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT, THE RAW LUMBER WAS WHERE THE, UM, BULKHEAD WOULD, WOULD BE BUILT.
UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS, WHEN WE TOLD YOU LAST TIME THAT, UM, CHRISTINA AND HER STAFF WOULD, UM, SPEC THE, UH, BULKHEADS TO THE, UM, SMALLEST ALLOWABLE PER VILLAGE CODE.
AND ONE FINAL THING YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT, UM, SLS SURVEYING FROM WHITE PLAINS, UM, USING THE DRAWINGS FROM CGA MADE, UM, DID FIELD SURVEY, UH, PRIOR TO AND DOING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LOCATION FOR EACH BULKHEAD, THE FOUR POINTS, AS WELL AS THE HEIGHT CALLED OUT IN, UH, C CJ'S PLAN.
I'M CHRISTINA GRIFFIN, UH, PRINCIPAL, CJA STUDIO ARCHITECTS.
AND, UM, THE FIRST SLIDE HERE IS JUST TO, UM, SHOW YOU THE BIG PICTURE.
AND, UM, DOWN BELOW IS THE, UH, VIEW, UH, WITH THE NEW, UM, REVISED BULK HEADS IN PLACE.
AND I'M GONNA BLOW THIS UP FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
UH, AND THEN JUST A REMINDER THAT WE DID, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YELLOW LINE ON TOP IS WHERE WE WERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, WHEN WE HAD A THIRD FLOOR, A SUMMARY OF CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS BY THE PLANNING BOARD ARE THIS, THE THIRD FLOOR HAS BEEN REMOVED, TAKEN OFF 3000 SQUARE FEET, THE BULKHEADS HAVE BEEN REDUCED IN SIZE.
AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW WE DID THAT.
UH, THE, AND THE, AND THESE BULKHEADS HAVE BEEN REDUCED BY 7% FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
AND WE ALSO REMOVED ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON SITE.
SO TO FOCUS ON THE BULKHEADS, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE CHANGE WE MADE SINCE THE LAST MEETING.
I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW WE DID THIS.
WE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CAME
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UP WITH A SHAPE FOR THE STAIRS THAT WOULD NOT BE LONG AND PARALLEL TO THE TOWNHOUSES, UH, ABOVE.SO WE CAME UP WITH A VERY COMPACT SIZE.
WE USED WINDERS, WE USED CODE MINIMUM FOR THE SIZE OF THE TREADS, AND THEN WE EVEN CAME UP WITH A SHAPE THAT WOULD BE REALLY HUG THE SHAPE OF THAT, UH, STAIRCASE, HAVE A MINIMUM CEILING HEIGHT SO THAT THIS, THIS SHAPE WOULD BE THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE BULKHEAD THAT WE COULD, WE COULD, UM, DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS THE, UM, ELEVATION THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE NEW BULKHEADS.
THEY'RE KIND OF STEPPED IN SHAPE AND THEY ARE THE, UH, JUST WANT YOU TO SEE THE BLUE LINE ON TOP, UH, THE PREVIOUS BULKHEADS WE HAD THAT WERE MUCH BIGGER.
AND ALSO SHOWING THE THIRD FLOOR THAT WE TOOK AWAY.
UH, THIS IS OUR, OUR FIRST, UM, SLIDE TO SHOW HOW WE WENT ABOUT DOING THE MOCKUPS.
WE, UH, THERE WAS A SURVEYOR WHO, UH, WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH US WHO CAREFULLY PLOTTED OUT ALL THE ELEVATIONS BASED ON THE HEIGHTS THAT WE GAVE THEM.
UH, SO THAT'S THE PLAN ON THE LESS.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE, THE MOCKUPS WENT UP AND THEY WERE BUILT TO THE HEIGHTS AND SHAPES THAT WE HAD SHOWN IN OUR DRAWINGS AND CHECKED BY THE SURVEYOR.
THIS IS JUST A, A LOCATION PLAN TO SHOW WHERE WE TOOK OUR, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE MOCKUP.
WE WENT TO FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
UM, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE MOCKUP FROM 4 83 4 85 WAR BURTON.
THE, THIS IS THE VIEW FROM UNIT ONE S.
THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE MOCKUP FROM 4 87 FROM THE FIRST FLOOR UNIT.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE VIEW, UH, FROM 4 87 WAR BURDEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM 4 91 WAR BURDEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM 4 91 SECOND FLOOR, BUT A PANORAMIC VIEW.
AND I GUESS THIS TAPE IS JUST REPRESENTING WHERE THE TREES WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.
AND THIS IS OUR VIEW FROM 4 93 A, UH, FROM THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THE MOCK-UP IS HERE BEHIND THESE TREES.
AND THIS IS A VIEW FROM 4 93, A SECOND FLOOR LOOKING AT PANORAMIC VIEW.
AND A BLOWUP DOWN BELOW IS, UM, IS A TINY SPOT HERE.
WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MOCKUP, BUT IT'S BEHIND THE TREE HERE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE ENDED UP WITH, UM, AND I CAN, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE, SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE CLEARER ON OUR 3D MOCKUP.
'CAUSE WE WENT BACK OUR 3D UH, STUDY WENT BACK TO, TO THAT TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, GRAPHICALLY, UH, IF WE PUT THE NEW BULKHEAD SIZE ON OUR 3D, UM, MODEL.
AND THAT AREA, UM, IN DARK PINK IS THE, UM, REPRESENTS THE BULKHEAD IMPACT ON THE VIEW.
AND THE DARK BLUE IS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE BULKHEADS TO OPEN UP THE VIEW FOR THE RIVER.
AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I HAVE A QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE STILL SHOWING US THE, THE ROOF.
UM, SO THE POINT OF PUTTING THE BULKHEADS THERE SO THAT THERE, THE ROOFS ARE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE OWNERS TO ENJOY THE ROOFTOP AS A, AS A KIND OF DECK.
SO CAN YOU SHOW US, THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN HEIGHT TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR USE.
SO WHAT, SHOW US WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THE, LET'S CALL IT THE RAILING WILL BE THE RAILING ON THE ROOF.
'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE I'VE SEEN DEPICTIONS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS A USABLE ROOF.
I, I SEE THE BULKHEAD, BUT IT'S GONNA BE USED AS A, UM, WE HAVE, I AM I HAVE MANY DRAWINGS THAT I CAN GO TO.
MAYBE I CAN SHOW YOU, UH, THAT IT MIGHT BE THE ROOF PLAN THAT SHOWS ITS BEST BECAUSE SOME OF THE, LET'S SEE, SORRY, THIS IS, SEEMS TO BE LOADING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE MOCK-UP IS NOT SHOWING US THE RAILING.
'CAUSE THE, THE ROOF IS COMPLETELY FLAT IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING THE IMPACT OF A RAILING.
IT WOULD BE THE RAILINGS AND POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, FURNITURE THAT WE ALSO, IF ONCE IT'S USED, IT WILL HAVE FURNITURE
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AND UMBRELLAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO I THINK IT'S ON SUPPLY, I THINK HIDES ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, I COULD BLOW THAT UP MAYBE, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT GRAPHICALLY SHOWS THAT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A, A ROOF PLAN THAT SHOWS HOW THE ROOFS ARE LAID OUT.
I'M SORRY, I COULD GO TO THAT.
UM, NEIL, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, WELL, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, I, I DON'T WANNA HOLD IT UP.
UM, I'M SURE MY FELLOW PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR, OR OBSERVATIONS FROM THEIR SITE VISITS, ANY OF THAT.
I THINK I CAN GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING.
DO YOU WANNA START? UH, I'LL, I'LL SHE STARTED ALREADY.
I'LL, I'LL CHIME IN AS IT GOES ALONG.
UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO LIVES IN YOUR APARTMENTS AND WE APPRECIATED ALL THE FEEDBACK YOU GAVE US.
UM, UH, IN TERMS OF THE BULKHEADS, I, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE RESIDENTS.
AND I, I FOUND THE BULKHEADS THAT HAD A MINIMUM EFFECT.
I AM, I SHARE THE THANKS, UH, I SHARE, UH, CHAIRWOMAN S UH, CONCERN ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, STUFF ON THE ROOF.
UM, BOTH ITS POTENTIAL TO BLOCK, UM, ADDITIONAL VIEWS THAT WE CAN'T, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE DURING THAT VISIT.
AND THEN ALSO AS A, UM, AS A POTENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, FLYAWAY HAZARD TO, TO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE EAST OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW HOW THE STRONG THE WINDS CAN GET ON, ON THE RIVER.
AND THEN UNRELATED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE SPOKE WITH EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE PUBLIC ACCESS WALKWAY, WHICH I HAD NOT REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT AS A CONCERN.
I, UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US AS AN AMENITY.
UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS EXPRESSED CONCERN AND, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD, WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT A CHANGE, I THINK THEY, THEY SEEMED PRETTY CONCERNED.
SO I THOUGHT PERHAPS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS BRIEFLY.
UM, I UNFORTUNATELY HAD A WORK EMERGENCY AND COULD NOT MAKE IT TO THE VIEWING THAT I WAS SCHEDULED TO GO, SO I WILL NOT SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT I REALLY APPRECIATED ALL THE, AND I DID CATCH UP WITH PATRICK AND LOOK AT ALL THESE PHOTOGRAPHS AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIS VIEWING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO ACCOMMODATE THE COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING PROCESS LAST TIME.
UM, YEAH, I DIDN'T ATTEND THIS PAST WEEK AND I, I DID ATTEND THE VIEWING A FEW MONTHS AGO FOR THE, UM, THE PRIOR ITERATION OF THE, UM, OF THE DESIGN.
UM, BUT RICHARD, TO THE, THE POINT YOU RAISED ABOUT THE TREES, UH, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A BETTER VIEW WITHOUT THE TREES AND WE GET A BETTER SENSE.
UM, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, THAT SUGGESTION BEFORE.
AND MY REACTION, JUST LIKE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE PHOTOS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, WHERE THERE'S NO LEAVES ON THE TREE, I FEEL LIKE WE GET A PRETTY GOOD SENSE, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT THE VIEW WOULD BE.
SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO MAKE A, A JUDGMENT, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO LIKE, DISCUSS THAT FURTHER AND HEAR MORE WHAT YOUR CONCERNS WOULD BE.
I, I'M AT THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE MADE CONCESSIONS, BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M GUESSING ON WHAT THE VIEW, THE ACTUAL VIEW WILL, WILL LOOK LIKE.
AND IT'S AN EASY ENOUGH LIFT TO REMOVE THE TREES, WHICH ARE GONNA BE REMOVED IF THIS, THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH.
SO I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE APPLICANT'S, UH, HESITANCY TO REMOVE THE TREES, WHICH WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO OR WHENEVER THIS FIRST, UH, CAME BEFORE US.
SO I'M UNCOMFORTABLE, UH, VIEWING THE VIEW PRESERVATION WITHOUT THE TREES DOWN, WITHOUT BETTER INFORMATION ABOUT THE FENCING AND THE EQUIPMENT ON THE, UH, ON THE ROOFS, BECAUSE THAT THEN GIVES ME A REAL PICTURE, UH, RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, I'M GUESSING AND I DON'T LIKE GUESSING.
AND I THINK IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST ASK IN THE WORLD.
I MEAN, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T GO THROUGH AND IT'S CURRENT FORM, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOST THE TREES, NOT THAT THERE'S SPECIMEN TREES OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'RE TREES, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY'D BE GONE.
SO THERE'D BE SOME, YOU KNOW, COST FINANCIALLY AND LIKE, PERHAPS ENVIRONMENTALLY AS WELL JUST TO TAKE THEM DOWN.
UM, AND MAYBE THERE WAS NOT A NEED TO DO THAT.
SO I JUST RAISED THAT BESIDES MY, MY DESIRE TO HAVE A, A REAL VIEW.
UH, IT'S BEEN A BONE OF CONTENTION BETWEEN, UH, THE RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO AS ONE WHO DOES DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHEN I HEAR COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT I CAN EASILY ADDRESS, IT'S IN MY BEST INTEREST USUALLY TO ADDRESS
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THEM.SO I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THAT HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED.
UH, SO I, I, AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A COST, BUT, UH, THIS IS A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT AND IF, IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF IT, I WOULD BE TRYING TO GET SOME GOODWILL FROM MY NEIGHBORS, UH, BESIDES ADDRESSING MY CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING A REAL VIEW CORRIDOR.
I DON'T KNOW, DANIEL, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO.
YOU'RE PROBABLY, YOU'RE TOO, TOO SOON TO, YEAH, NO WORRIES.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK FOR THIS MEETING.
AND ERNESTO, HOW ABOUT YOU? YEAH, I DID GO, UM, I DID, UH, VISIT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, AGAIN, TO ALL THE RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ALLOWING US IN.
UM, AND I WANNA ALSO COMMEND, UH, CHRISTINA AND HER TEAM FOR THE MOCKUP REALLY HELPS US UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BETTER.
UM, KUDOS TO THE TEAM FOR REALLY IMPROVING ON WHAT WE SAW WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL, I PERSONALLY THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
UM, THE TWO COMMENTS THAT I HAVE ARE AS FOLLOWS.
NUMBER ONE, I WAS AT AN APARTMENT ON THE FIRST FLOOR ON THE CORNER OF WASHINGTON.
UH, IT, IT PRETTY MUCH THE BULK HEAD AT MOCK-UP PRETTY MUCH WIPES OUT HIS ENTIRE VIEW.
UM, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY VIEW THEY HAVE TO THE, TO THE, UM, TO THE PALISADES.
SO THAT'S QUESTION I HAVE FOR CHRISTINE AND HER TEAM IS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, AND I DON'T KNOW, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO ONE CENTRAL, UH, BULKHEAD TO ALLOW FOR ALL RESIDENTS TO ACCESS THAT ONE CENTRAL POINT, UM, RATHER THAN ALL OF THE MULTIPLE ONES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF PERHAPS A FIRE CODE ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
UM, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, I I NEED TO, I NEED TO PUT THE THOUGHT INTO THAT.
UM, IT JUST PROBABLY CHANGES THE NATURE OF HOW YOU USE A DECK.
YOU KNOW, EACH, EACH ONE WAS THE OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THAT UNIT.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK I CAN JUST SAY, YES, I NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT HARD AT IT BECAUSE NOW IT BECOMES A COMMUNAL SHARED STAIR AND, UH, UNDERSTOOD.
EGRESS ALSO HAS TO BE LOOKED AT, OF COURSE, RIGHT.
UM, SO YEAH, ITS' AN INTERESTING CONCEPT THOUGH.
SO, WELL, IF IT'S A KEEP DRAWING OUT THERE, IT'S A ROOT THOUGHT AMENITY, PRESUMABLY ALL RESIDENTIAL SHARING AND ENJOYING IT.
SO PERHAPS MAYBE A COMPROMISE MIGHT BE TO DO ONE CENTRAL CORE, ONE CENTRAL BULKHEAD, IT ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE OTHER ONES.
AND IT WOULD, I THINK FROM WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE PICTURE I TOOK FROM HIS APARTMENT, WOULD, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALLOW HIS, HIS VIEW TO BE PRESERVED MM-HMM
UM, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF IT CAN BE DONE AND CONTEMPLATED.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THE WALKWAY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES COME UP.
IT CAME UP IN BOTH VISITS WE HAD.
UM, SO JUST, AGAIN, JUST WANTING TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THINKING ABOUT IT FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
IT MAKES SENSE FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE, THE CONCEPT AND GETTING TO THE, UH, TO THE FARMER'S MARKET ON, ON A SATURDAY.
UM, BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW OPERATIONALLY IT MIGHT IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, SOME WHO HAVE EXPRESSED, UM, HEARING FOLKS AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND THE, AND THE MUSE AND WALKING THERE, WHICH IS A VALID CONCERN, BUT I THINK THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT CAN BE, UH, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATIVELY, UH, UH, CREATED TO HELP, UH, MITIGATE SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THOSE NOISE CONCERNS OR WHATEVER OTHER CONCERNS THERE MAY BE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO POINTS I JUST WANTED TO, TO RAISE AND BRING UP.
UM, I REALIZED THAT I WANTED OUR, UM, VILLAGE PLANNER ALSO TO HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT AND, UM, GIVE US GUIDANCE ON THIS BEFORE WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
SO I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
THEY'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF THE TECHNICAL PLANNING ISSUES.
THERE WERE A FEW MINOR, UM, PLANNING ISSUES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED, ONE OF THEM RELATED TO ONE OF THE PARKING SPACES.
SO THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS TO ADDRESS THAT, AND I THINK YOU RECEIVED TODAY COMMENTS FROM DOUG HAN, UM, FINALIZING, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO SATISFYING THE ENGINEERING ISSUES.
SO MOST OF THE TECHNICAL ISSUES ARE RESOLVED.
WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE VIEW PRESERVATION ISSUES TODAY.
UM, WELL WANNA GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO PROVIDE US WITH ANY FURTHER RESPONSES.
UH, IN RESPONSE TO SIDEWALK ISSUE, UM, THAT'S NOT A BREAK, UH, OR NON BREAK ISSUE FOR US, WE THOUGHT THAT PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN WALKTHROUGH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF, WOULD ALIGN WITH THE, WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
WE WANNA MUSE, IF THE BOARD FEELS BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, THAT
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THAT SHOULDN'T BE A, A, A, A WALKTHROUGH, WE CAN CLOSE IT OFF, PUT OUR OWN SIDEWALKS, AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS.UH, THE, THE MUSE IDEA STILL MAINTAINS, WE JUST THOUGHT, UM, THAT'D BE A GOOD THING THAT THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
I PERSONALLY LIKE IT KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE REST OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.
HEARD, I HEARD THE CONCERN, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
RELATIVE TO YOUR IDEA, I THOUGHT AND THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT COULD WE HAVE ONE KIND OF COMMON AREA BULKHEAD, BUT THERE ISN'T ANY COMMON AREA THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
WHERE WOULD WE PUT THAT? COMMON CORE? IF YOU ARE THE EASTERN MOST OR THE WESTERN MOST UNIT, HOW DO YOU GET TO THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT GOING TO SOMEBODY'S APARTMENT? IS THERE A CORRIDOR? THERE'S NO CORRIDOR.
UH, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM, UM, RELATIVE TO THE BULKHEADS.
WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THOSE RELATIVE TO, UM, UH, MR. BASSETT'S, UM, COMMENTS ABOUT THE TREES.
UM, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET BACK TO OWNERSHIP ON THAT ISSUE, RIGHT? IMMEDIATELY.
WE UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW IMPORTANT THAT'S BECOME RELATIVE TO MR. CLEARY'S COMMENTS.
UM, WE GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION ON, I THINK IT'S PARKING SPACE 13, UH, FROM, UH, HU UM, UM, HUDSON ENGINEERING, THOMAS KANIS HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE SATISFACTORY.
WE ALSO READ HAN'S REPORT, UM, I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM, UH, MINISTERIAL, BUT SEVEN OF THE ISSUES HAN SAID WILL BE COVERED DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
AND THE OTHER SEVEN OR EIGHT ARE JUST CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE ON THE PLAN OR A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT HA'S REQUIRING THAT WE WOULD DO ANYWAY, WE'LL GET THAT DONE BEFORE YOUR NEXT MEETING.
AND NEIL, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY THE WALKWAY THROUGH THE MUSE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD BE CLOSED PERIODICALLY? YEAH.
WE, WE HAD SOME ARBITRARY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FIRST TRAIN, LAST TRAIN, 7:00 AM 10:00 PM THAT, THAT'S UP IN THE AIR.
IT, IT, WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT MUCH THOUGHT.
UM, IF THE RESIDENTS CAME TO YOU AND YOU GUYS DECIDED THAT IT SHOULD BE OPEN X HOUR, Y HOUR, THAT'S FINE WITH US.
YOU MAY DECIDE IT SHOULD NEVER BE OPEN.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, AND NOT TO BE TOTALLY OBNOXIOUS, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DELAY DELIBERATIONS UNTIL THE TREES ARE DOWN.
UH, I HAVE TO, SO I'M ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK TO OWNERSHIP, BUT I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION UNTIL THE, THE BLOODY TREES ARE DOWN.
OH, WELL, RICHARD, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS RIGHT NOW ANYWAY, SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION.
SO, UM, I THINK WE, I THINK IT'S, I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP THIS EVENING.
WE ALSO WILL BE INVITING THE PUBLIC TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
SO I, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE ON, ON THIS.
UH, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE TO DELAY THIS APPLICATION UNTIL THE TREES ARE DOWN THAT I THINK THAT'S AN, UH, UH, A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO PRO, YOU KNOW, PROCEED.
BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO TAKE PRESERVATION PROVISION OF YOUR CODE.
YOUR VIEW PRESERVATION ORDINANCE FOCUSES ON THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE HUDSON RIVER AND THE PALISADES.
IT DOESN'T REALLY LEAVE YOU ANY ROOM TO CONDITIONING ANY DELAY ON YOUR DETERMINATION PRESERVATION ON THE BASIC BEING REMOVED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT VIEW PRESERVATION, AND MY, MY VIEW OF THE RIVER IS BLOCKED BY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REMOVED FOR ME TO EVALUATE THE PROJECT AS A STANDALONE PROJECT, THOSE TREES SHOULD COME DOWN.
SO I DISAGREE WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION.
WELL, RI RICHARD, WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A FORMAL VOTE TONIGHT, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE A FORMAL VOTE TO DELAY ANYTHING.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE WILL DECIDE, UM, WE'RE NOT READY TO, UM, TO REFER THIS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE ANOTHER, WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING FOR SECRET.
I, MADAM CHAIR, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
I BELIEVE A MOTION CAN BE MADE AND MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED.
A MOTION CAN BE, UH, MADE TO DELAY OUR DELIBERATION UNTIL THE VIEW IS CLEAR WE'RE WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION, WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE.
SO I'M GONNA CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AMONGST US.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT, I, I, FIRST OF ALL, I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION TO FORMALLY DELAY THIS PROJECT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
AND ANYWAY, IT'S MOOT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION, WE'RE ALL GONNA CONTRIBUTE TO IT.
AND THIS WILL CONTINUE AT THE NEXT, NEXT MEETING.
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THIS INTO THE GROUND, I DISAGREE.WE'RE LOOKING AT VIEW PRESERVATION AND THERE'S AN OBSTRUCTION IN MY EVALUATION.
YOU HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION, RICHARD, FOR US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AT HAND TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN REGISTERED ALONGSIDE OF OTHER PEOPLE'S CONCERNS.
WE DON'T NEED TO STOP THE CONVERSATION FOR THIS, FOR TO END.
WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I, I DO WANT US, BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC, UM, I DO, SINCE IT'S COME UP NOW FROM A COUPLE OF PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THE MUSE.
I WILL SAY MYSELF THAT, UM, I DON'T FAVOR, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS, UM, OPEN OR, OR, YOU KNOW, I WAS POSITIVELY DISPOSED TOWARDS A VERY DENSE PROJECT LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF THAT PUBLIC AMENITY IT WAS PROVIDING.
AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE CONCEPT.
SO I PERSONALLY WOULD THINK IT'S A HUGE LOSS TO THE PROJECT TO CLOSE OFF THE PUBLIC NEEDS.
BUT I'M OPEN TO, I, I HEARD A COUPLE PEOPLE SAYING NEIGHBORS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE HOURS THAT IT'LL BE OPEN, BUT I THINK THAT CAN BE MITIGATED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKING SURE THE HOURS ARE REASONABLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LIVE NEXT TO SIDEWALKS.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE TO CLOSE IT DOWN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I CATEGORIZED IT AS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AN OPERATIONAL OPERATING KIND OF THING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE, I PERSONALLY THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD AMENITY FOR THE VILLAGE.
I ONLY BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE, UH, THAT'S BEEN A CONSISTENT, UH, ALARM THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE RAISED, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT FOR THEM.
UM, SWITCHING GEARS BACK TO THE BULKHEADS.
UH, JUST COULD, I'M SORRY TO DO THIS.
CAN YOU, WOULD YOU MIND PULLING IT BACK UP? THE, I'M NEW ARCHITECT AND I, I DON'T KNOW THE FIRE, BUT I HAVE A PLAN SO I COULD SHOW YOU.
IS IT, I CAN SHOW YOU THE PLAN JUST SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
SO THAT FROM THERE IS JUST FINE.
UH, IF YOU CAN'T DO ONE BULKHEAD, COULD IS, IS IT, WOULD IT BE LEGAL WITHIN THE FIRE CODE IN THE BUILDING CODE TO HAVE TWO SHARED BULKHEADS BETWEEN APARTMENT ONE AND TWO AND APARTMENT THREE AND FOUR INSTEAD OF FOUR BULKHEADS? YOU HAVE TO, THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT MM-HMM
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR A UNIT TO GET TO THAT ROOF.
SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
IT, IT REALLY NEEDS A LOT OF THOUGHT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD MAKE IT WORK WITHOUT ONE PERSON HAVING TO GO INTO THE OTHER PERSON'S UNIT.
I SAID I JUST WANTED TO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CONSIDERING ALL THE OPTIONS.
IF IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
THERE'S, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS YOU GO TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, EXTERIOR STAIRCASE UP TO THE ROOFTOP.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT HERE WITH A DEVELOPER CAP ON.
THAT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO DECIDE.
BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO APPROACH IT IF YOU REALLY WANT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE BULKHEAD OR THE, THE ASPECT OF THE PUBLIC NEWS? ANY CONCERNS OR, YEAH, ON, ON THE WALKWAY, I, I HEAR BOTH SIDES.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL FROM NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE, THE PUBLIC, UM, FOOT TRAFFIC.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF CREATING ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINT TO, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN THE TRAIN STATION.
BUT, UM, BUT I, I, AT THE, ON THE OTHER HAND, I COULD SEE FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD SORT OF REASONABLY FORESEE THAT ONE DAY THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC SIDEWALK WITH THAT TRAFFIC AND POTENTIAL TRASH OR, OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THEIR DOORS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF CONTINUING TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND CONSIDER WHETHER IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, UM, IN THE, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE, OF THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY.
TO MAYBE CLOSE THAT OFF FROM THE FRONT.
I GUESS A QUESTION, CAN WE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, UH, I, AGAIN, I THINK IF, IF THE APPLICANT COULD JUST SHOW US EXACTLY WHERE THE WALKWAY IS IN RELATION TO THE NEIGHBORS, JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR.
HOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS A QUESTION FOR PATRICK, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF, IF THIS WOULD BE PRIVATE.
SO IT WOULD BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
NOT THE VILLAGE WOULD NOT MAINTAIN IT.
UM, THE PRESUMPTION IS THAT THERE IS IN FACT, UH, SOMEONE THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE, THE WALKWAY.
SO THAT WE WOULD, THERE WOULD BE A, A MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION THAT THEY WOULD MEET ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THIS, THAT THE VILLAGE HAS.
SO THEIR PROBLEM, THEIR ISSUE, THEIR OBLIGATION.
AND IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S PUBLIC.
THE ISSUE IS REALLY A MANAGEMENT, WHETHER IT'S A SEVEN TO SEVEN OR DAWN TO DUSK, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
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AND A WAY FOR US TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS IN FACT RESPECTED AND ABIDED BY, UH, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE, BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE, UH, FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.AND A NARROWER WINDOW OF HOURS, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD MAKE SENSE FROM ALL PERSPECTIVES POTENTIALLY, I THINK.
AND IF YOU ARE LATE TO THE TRAIN, YOU GOTTA GO AROUND ALL NOT LATE.
SO, SO, UM, CHRISTINA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHOW US EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS? YES.
I THINK THIS IS, UM, THE LANDSCAPE DRAWING, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO, UM, REALLY, UH, DESCRIBE THE MUSE WELL AND PLAN.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT THE, UM, PATH THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE HERE IN BROWN, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE ENTRY, UH, OFF OF WASHINGTON AVENUE.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, A GATES, YOU'D HAVE TO TURN LEFT TO OPEN UP A GATE TO GO THROUGH THE MUSE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE END.
AND THAT HAS ACCESS TO A STAIRCASE.
IT GOES DOWN ALONG THAT POCKET PARK AND DOWN TO THE, UM, UH, TO THE VILLAGE.
UM, COMMUTER, COMMUTER PARKING LOT.
SO WHAT THIS DRAWING IS SHOWING US, THE WALKWAY WITHIN THE PROPERTY, UM, THE, THE HOMES THAT IT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO ARE TO THE, YEAH.
JUST ABOVE WHERE YOUR CURSOR WAS.
AND, UM, WHAT WE DON'T SEE HERE IS THE DISTANCE, BUT IT'S ALSO LOWER BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S MUCH LOWER.
AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WE DID CHANGE THIS.
WE HAD THIS, THE, UM, GATE FACING WASHINGTON AVENUE SO PEOPLE COULD SEE A GATE.
BUT, UH, WE CHANGED THAT BECAUSE THIS WOULD GIVE US MORE PRIVACY SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ENTERING THE MUSE RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU JUST, YOU HAVE THIS AT LEAST SOME KIND OF SPACE HERE BEFORE YOU ENTER IT.
UM, I THINK I HAVE THE ENGINEER'S PLAN.
LET'S SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ELEVATIONS.
IT'S A VERY SMALL SECTION THAT IS, UM, NOT INTERIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IT WOULD WORK WITH THE GATE BEING CLOSED ALL THE TIME.
OPENING, CLOSING, OPENING, CLOSING THAT GATE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL THAT IS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GATE YOU HAVE IN MIND.
UM, THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE TIMES WHEN IT WOULD, MIGHT BE CLOSED OFF.
BUT IT WOULDN'T ALWAYS, LIKE, DURING THE TIMES THAT IT'S OPEN, IT WOULD JUST BE OPEN.
SO YOU WOULDN'T CONSTANTLY BE HAVING TO PROBABLY, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THOSE DETAILS, BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
SO THAT THAT WOULD BE IN YEAH.
MAYBE YOU COULD, YOU COULD SHOW US A VISUAL OF WHAT THE GATE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS THAT'S COMING UP TONIGHT.
WE, WE THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD REALLY WORK IS WHEN IT'S OPEN.
AND THEN WHEN CLOSES CLOSE IT.
IF YOU HAVE TO TRY TO DOLE WITHIN IT, IT JUST, IT WOULDN'T WORK.
NO, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST THE RESIDENT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY RESIDENT.
SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO WALK THROUGH AND YEAH.
AND IF I MAY THROW ONE IN THERE TOO FOR THE NEXT MEETING, SORT OF A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON, ON WHAT THE COMMITMENTS ARE FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE FOR THE MUSE, SO THAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS MM-HMM
TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HEARING A LOT FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S CLEAR THAT SAYS, LOOK, IT'LL BE OPEN FROM SUCH HOUR TO SUCH HOUR.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE AT THAT POINT YET.
WELL, NO, THAT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION.
LIGHTING, THE, THE SHARE, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, UH, WILL BE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION THAT WILL BE PART OF THE, UH, DOCUMENTS OFFERING PLAN THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL SEE TO IT THAT IT'S ENFORCED OR NOT.
ALL OF THE EXPENSES WILL BE FIRST HOURS AND THEN EVENTUALLY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, THAT PLAN'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SIGNED OFF FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BEFORE WE GET IT, HAS ANY OF THAT THOUGHT BEEN, THAT'LL BE FILED, FORMALIZED, THAT'LL BE FILED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE LIGHTING, UH, WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T PUT ON THE ROOF, ALL OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT MEETING FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME GENERAL, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY A REQUEST.
BECAUSE I THINK GIVEN WHAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT, I THINK WE NEED THOSE DETAILS.
WHAT, HOW DO YOU ENVISION THE ROOF BEING USED? SHOW US A VISUAL, WHAT WOULD GO UP THERE, WHAT'S ALLOWED.
AND, AND GIVE US, YOU KNOW, IN, IN PLAN OR ACTUALLY IN ELEVATION, SHOW US WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS A USED A ROOFTOP THAT PEOPLE ARE USING.
CYNTHIA AND I HAVE DONE RECENT PROJECTS IN HASTINGS WITH HOAS, SO WE'LL KIND OF MIX AND MATCH ON THAT AND GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'D WANT HERE AS WELL.
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FOR THE RECORD, I WANTED TO SAY I LOVED THE MEALS ALSO AND HAVE NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE TO ADD BEYOND WHAT ALL OF THESE AWESOME COMMENTS HAVE BEEN, BUT WOULD BE.I THINK IT'S NOT AN OPTION AT ALL TO CLOSE IT OFF, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, EVA, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE ROOF, BUT I WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE NEWS, HOW THAT WILL YES, YES.
I ABSOLUTELY, I AGREE HOW THAT WILL WORK.
WE, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'RE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK WITH DETAILS ON BOTH DETAILS OF HOW THE ROOF WOULD GET USED AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS A USED FACILITY.
AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL PLAN FOR THE MUSE ITSELF WITH THE DETAILS.
I THINK THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT.
WELL WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED THOSE SPECIFICS IN ORDER TO FEEL COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH WHATEV, WHICHEVER WAY WE GO IN OUR VOTE ON THIS.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'D LIKE TO, UM, INVITE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER TO COME BEFORE US.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND I THINK YOU'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO WRITE IT.
UM, WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO WRITE IT ON THE BOARD.
CHRISTINE, DO YOU WANNA REMOVE YOUR LAPTOP OR NOT A PROBLEM? IF YOU WANNA NO, NOT YOU.
SWEAR TO GOD I STOMP HIM WHEREVER I SEE HIM.
UH, BRIAN ALLEN, 4 87 WAR BURTON.
I ALSO REPRESENT MIKE CHAR FIVE, UH, UH, FOUR 80, UH, UH, 4 83, 4 85 NEXT TO ME.
THANK FOR ALL OF YOU WHO CAME TO LOOK, UH, NOT ALL OF YOU CAME.
UM, THIS THING STILL BLOCKS VIEWS IMPERMISSIBLY FROM DEREK'S APARTMENT 4 83, WHITE OUT HIS VIEW ALTOGETHER.
THIS IS A VERY STRICT VIEW PRESERVATION LAW FROM MY APARTMENT AND MY BACK PORCH, AS YOU SAW IT, WIPES OUT 30% OF MY VIEW.
UM, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT, I DIDN'T REMEMBER THERE BEING OTHER BULKHEADS.
I REMEMBER THERE BEING A WHOLE THIRD STORY.
AND THEN THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME LIKE TRAP ACCESS THROUGH A, THROUGH A SKYLIGHT OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE ARE THESE BULKHEADS, WELL, THAT'S THE PRESENT PROPOSAL, BUT THE BULKHEADS DO IMPEDE THE VIEW AND THAT'S NOT PERMISSIBLE.
WE HAVE A VERY STRICT VIEW PRESERVATION LAW HERE.
WE WENT OVER THIS BEFORE ACTUALLY, WHILE YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT ARYN, DO YOU HAVE IT HANDY? WHAT EXACTLY THE LANGUAGE IS? BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT IT CANNOT, THE LANGUAGE IS, THE LANGUAGE IS LEAST POSSIBLE SEARCH.
I I KNOW I WANT OUR VILLAGE ATTORNEY TO, TO STATE IT.
UM, FOR US, JUST SINCE YOU'RE RAISING IT, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE GOING BASED.
I I'M BASED ON AN ATTORNEY OF RECORD.
SO THE EXACT LANGUAGE IN THE CODE IS THAT EVERY APPLICATION TO PERMIT PERMIT THE ERECTION OR EXTERIOR ALTERATION OF A BUILDING RESTRUCTURE IN A VP DISTRICT SHALL BE REFERRED TO THE SHALL BE REFERRED BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION AS TO THE BEST SIGHTING DIMENSIONS AND CONFIGURATION OF PRINCIPLE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
SO AS TO CAUSE THE LEAST POSSIBLE OBSTRUCTION OF THE VIEW OF THE HUDSON RIVER AND PALISADES FOR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND ADJACENT PUBLIC PROPERTY AND RIGHTS OF WAY.
THIS IS A VERY STRICT DEFINITION, AT LEAST POSSIBLE.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN NINE AT LEAST POSSIBLE.
UH, WE JUST, WE JUST RENEWED OUR MASTER PLAN.
THE MASTER PLAN SAYS WE HAVE A VERY STRICT LAW SAYS THAT IN ORDER TO CRITICIZE IT.
BUT IT, THE MASTER PLAN SAYS WE HAVE A VERY STRICT LAW.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT, PUT THAT BACK OUT THERE.
WHAT WE JUST READ, WHAT THE LAW IS AND WE CAN INTERPRET THE LAW AS IT IS.
SO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
IT ALSO BLOCKS A LITTLE BIT OF THE VIEW FROM MY SECOND FLOOR TENANT.
I WISHED MORE OF YOU HAD SEEN IT AND I'LL SEND IN MORE PICTURES.
BUT, UM, THE VIEW OF, UH, THE, THE, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES, UM, THOSE TREES WERE NOT THERE 10 YEARS AGO WHEN I BOUGHT THE BUILDING FOUR YEARS AGO, THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THEY HAD NOT GROWN THAT TALL.
IF I HAD KNOWN THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, I WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THE BUILDING.
UH, THESE TREES WERE PLANTED BY MR. CHANG.
THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY IN A ROW AND THERE'S NO POWER ON THE BOARD.
AS THE GOOD ATTORNEY HAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE POWER OF WHAT THE BOARD CAN DO.
YOU CANNOT GIVETH THE VIEW HERE WHILE YOU TAKETH AWAY ONE OVER THERE.
I UNDERSTAND MR. BASS'S POINT OF VIEW, WHICH IS YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY ASSESSMENT AT ALL.
BUT EVEN IF THOSE TREES HAD BEEN THERE FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR VIEW FROM HERE WHILE WE GIVE YOU SOME VIEW OVER THERE.
THERE'S NO DISCRETION, BALANCE, TEST, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR QUITE A WHILE.
AND I DON'T THINK, I THINK YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR POWERS TO SAY, WELL YOU I'M GONNA TAKE VIEW FROM MR. ALLEN OVER HERE 'CAUSE I'M GONNA GIVE HIM SOMEWHERE OVER THERE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THAT'S TOTALLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THAT'S WHY HE HASN'T TAKEN THE TREES DOWN.
WELL, THIS IS MY PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
I'M GONNA GO ON TO THE, TO THE, UM, THE SIDEWALK.
NOT EVERYBODY HAS A SIDEWALK IN THEIR BACKYARD IN THIS TOWN.
NOBODY HAS A SIDEWALK IN THEIR BACKYARD IN THIS TOWN.
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IN MY FRONT OF MY BUILDING.IT'S ONE OF THE BUSIEST SIDEWALKS AND THE NOISIEST SIDEWALKS THERE IS, I DID NOT BUY THAT BUILDING.
SO THERE COULD BE A PUBLIC SIDEWALK BEHIND ME ALSO.
IT'S HIS LITTLE, ITS QUIET BACKYARD.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
IF IT'S LIT FROM DAWN TO DUSK, THAT'S STILL AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF LIGHT ALL THE TIME IN MY TINY LITTLE BACKYARD.
AND ALSO FROM MR. CHAR, HE'S GOT SIX UNITS TO LOOK OUT BACK OUT THERE.
I'VE GOT THREE THAT'S NINE UNITS ALTOGETHER.
THE TOWN HOMES NORTH OF ME ARE ONLY FOUR UNITS.
I'VE GOT TWICE AS MANY UNITS BETWEEN ME AND MY CLIENT THAT ARE GONNA BE BURDENED BY THIS SIDEWALK.
IT'S DOWN BELOW WHEN YOU GET TO MY BUILDING.
BUT IT STARTS AT THE SIDEWALK LEVEL.
AT AT MY CURB STAR'S BUILDING.
IT'S AT EXACTLY THE SAME LEVEL.
AND THEN IT STARTS TO BREAK OFF.
THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, OH, IT'S WAY DOWN BELOW.
IT'S NOT, IT STARTS AT THE STREET.
PEOPLE WILL BE WALKING THROUGH THIS THING AT ALL HOURS.
IF, IF YOU HAVE TO LIGHT IT, YOU'RE LIGHTING IT THE MINUTE THE SUN COMES UP, THE MINUTE THE SUN GOES, IT, IT'S, IT'S A NUISANCE.
IT IT, NO ONE BOUGHT A BUILDING THINKING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
IT'S A REAL PUBLIC NUISANCE THAT, THAT THAT BACK WALL THERE IS MY WALL.
IF THE KIDS TAG IT, WHO'S SUPPOSED TO CLEAN IT? UH, THE NOISE BACK THERE, IT, IT, IT WITH THE BUILDINGS, IT WOULD BE A CANYON LIKE EFFECT.
NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN CONSIDERED.
I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE TRAIN, BUT JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE NOT WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN WARBURTON AND WASHINGTON.
AND TO GET TO THE TRAIN SO THEY CAN COME IN MY BACKYARD UNTIL WHAT? THE SUN GOES DOWN AT EIGHT 30 AT NIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER POINT? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE ARE CONSIDERING IT AND WE HAVE, IT'S BY PUBLIC COMMENT.
OTHER PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS HAVE MENTIONED IT.
I HAVE ONE OTHER POINT THAT I'VE MADE BEFORE AND I'VE MADE IN WRITING PUBLIC USE AS TRANSIT ACROSS THAT PROPERTY IS ITS OWN USE.
THAT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY OR A PRINCIPLE USE THERE.
HE NEEDS A VARIANCE TO DO THAT.
IF HE DID NOTHING ELSE THERE BUT MADE THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK, THAT WOULD BE A USE THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A VARIANCE FOR.
I I BELIEVE I, I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BY OUR ATTORNEY.
WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK AND MAKE SURE I'M MAKING IT.
ATTORNEY AS MR. BUT ANYWAY, YOU HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE AND I'LL AND I'LL COME HERE AND MAKE IT FOR THE RECORD TIME AFTER TIME.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE? AYE, AYE, UH, ANITA JAM.
I DON'T THINK I CAN, CAN PRESENT 'CAUSE IT'S HCMI, BUT I WANT TO, I THINK YOU HAVE TO SIGN THE, UH, SORRY.
WE ALWAYS NEED EVERYONE TO SIGN SO THAT THE, UH, TRANSCRIBER CAN GET PEOPLE'S NAMES RIGHT.
SO I JUST, I HAD PUT TOGETHER A SLIDESHOW BECAUSE I WANT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT THE TREES.
THEY'RE BEING LEVERAGED TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GIVING US A VIEW, BUT THOSE TREES WERE NOT THERE.
SORRY, I I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE, WE CAN'T CONSIDER THE TREES AS, I MEAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN EXPRESS YOUR FRUSTRATION ABOUT THE TREES, BUT THEY'RE NOT UNDER THE REMOVING THEM IS NOT UNDER OUR PURVIEW.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT PART OF THE VIEW PRESERVATION LAW.
WELL, I THINK, WELL YOU SPEAK TO THE GOODWILL OF THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE POINT OF THE VIEW PRESERVATION LAWS.
AND SO I THINK THE TREES ARE A MATERIAL POINT TO THIS.
AND I DO THINK THAT I CAN DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THAT THESE ARE NEW GROWTH AND THAT THEY WEREN'T HERE OVER A SERIES OF A TRIPTYCH OF YEARS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A MATERIAL FACT TO THE VIEW PRESERVATION.
YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE ENHANCING, I MEAN, PEOPLE COME AND SIT HERE AND SAY THEY'RE 30 TO 50 YEARS OLD AND THAT EVERY COVER LETTER SAYS, OH, WE'RE MAKING THEIR VIEWS BETTER.
I THINK THE LAST ONE SAID IT WAS EIGHT TIMES BETTER.
I MEAN, THE TREES WEREN'T THERE AND IT WAS THE APPLICANT WHO PRESIDED OVER THAT SITE WHEN THE TREES SHOWED UP.
AND, AND I THINK THAT I'M GONNA SUBMIT TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW THAT, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO USE THAT AS AN ARGUMENT.
IT, IT, IT'S DULY NOTED AND I THINK, UM, THE BOARD VERY STRONGLY SAID THAT WITH THIS KEY COMING UP OF REPEATEDLY THAT THEY SHOULD JUST TAKE CARE OF IT.
UM, SO I I WANNA SAY THAT WE HEAR YOU ON THAT.
IT'S JUST NOT PART OF THE CONSIDERATION OF VIEW PRESERVATION.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF IT'S MATERIAL TO WHETHER THEY'RE ENHANCING OUR VIEW OR NOT, OR TAKING AWAY OUR VIEW.
WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH ON IT, BUT IT, IT, TO ME IT'S A MATERIAL POINT.
I I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SAY THAT.
IT, IT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE VIEW PRESERVATION LAWS, YOU CAN SAY THAT THE TREES ARE NOT PART OF WHAT TOOK THE VIEW AWAY.
WHAT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IN VIEW PRESERVATION IS THE IMPACT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THE, THE UNDERSTAND THE COMPONENTS OF THE BUILDING.
UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S NOT PART OF VIEW PRESERVATION.
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CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF TREES.UNDERSTAND, I THINK AS, AGAIN, I THINK WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY APPEARED SINCE THE OWNER, UH, PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND THAT THEY'VE GROWN QUITE, QUITE TALL.
AND IT'S, AND AND THERE IT HAS BEEN MADE AS PART OF THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY'LL, THE PROJECT WILL BENEFIT THE, THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE TREES WILL COME DOWN.
SO WE'RE, WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THAT'S YES, BUT IT'S STILL NOT PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION ON WHETHER TO GRANT VIEW PRESERVATION OR NOT IS THAT'S MY POINT.
WELL I THINK IT WOULD INFORM WHAT THE VIEWS LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THE TREES REALLY.
AND I SUPPORT THE MOTION NOT TO HAVE THEM REMOVED.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WASHINGTON IS A VERY NARROW STREET.
YOU HAVE A VERY DENSE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU HAVE DEAD END STREETS WITH NO PARKING, YOU HAVE COMMUTERS DRIVING DOWN WASHINGTON.
YOU'RE GONNA ADD 20 CARS WITH 20 UNITS.
THERE'S GONNA BE MORE CARS, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT AN EARLY ANALYSIS WAS DONE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT REALLY STRONGLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST PEDESTRIANS, IT'S CARS TOO.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, UM, WE'RE, I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD IS COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH VIEW PRESERVATION YET WE'VE DETERMINED THAT WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
UM, SO, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE REFERRING THIS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS YET.
UM, I THINK ONE OTHER THING I WANNA NOTE IS THAT, UM, WE'LL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE APPROVAL UNTIL THE PLANNING BOARD COMPLETES SECRET.
UM, SO THE NEXT STEP IN THAT WILL BE TO REVIEW A PART TWO.
UM, PAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT PROCESS OR WALK US THROUGH? SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS AT YOUR DIRECTION PREPARE A DRAFT OF WHAT THE PART TWO AND THE REASON SUPPORTING THAT WOULD BE.
UM, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU WITH THE NEXT MEETING OR WHENEVER YOU CHOOSE TO REVIEW THAT.
IT WOULD BE A DRAFT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO, UM, I WOULD SAY WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS THE NEXT MEETING ON, UM, REVIEWING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AT THIS MEETING.
UM, AND UM, I THINK RICHARD'S REQUEST IS DULY NOTED BY THE APPLICANT'S.
UM, AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE NEXT MONTH.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UM, OLD HEARING.
THE NEXT UM, HEARING IS ON THE SUBDIVISION APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION OF MOHAMED IBRAHIM FOR THE SUBDIVISION OF HIS PROPERTIES LOCATED AT SEVEN NRA PLACE AND ZERO FARRAGUT AVENUE.
PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2 95 DASH ONE 15 OF THE VILLAGE CODE SAID PROPERTY.
I HEAR, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TALKING IN THIS ROOM AND IT'S DISTRACTING FROM UM, THE BUSINESS HERE.
SO IF YOU HAVE, UM, CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE, PLEASE TAKE THEM OUTSIDE.
UM, SAID PROPERTY IS IN THE R DASH 7.5 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS 4.1 5 0 1 55 DASH THREE AND 15 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS.
UM, SO AGAIN, UH, I'M GOING TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS BEFORE US A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT THE APPLICANT IS NOW BACK TO CONTINUE THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION.
THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THE PLAN AT OUR LAST MEETING AND WE REQUESTED A CHANGE TO STRAIGHTEN THE LOT LINE BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS NOW SUBMITTED.
UM, SO THIS HAS CHANGED THE VARIANCES AS WE KNEW IT WOULD ON BOTH LOTS, UM, WHICH ARE NOW BOTH, UH, NONCONFORMING AS TO THE MINIMUM LOT AREA.
BUT UM, AS WE ALL DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, IT JUST MADE SENSE TO HAVE A STRAIGHT LINE OR A SLANTED LINE ACROSS THE LOT RATHER THAN THE UM, ODD SHAPE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO BRIEFLY PRESENT THE REVISED PLAN TO US.
UM, LIKE MADAM CHAIRMAN, SHE SAID, UM, THE, THIS IS THE NEW PROPOSED LINE ARRANGEMENT I JUST HAVE FOR, UM, NO, NOT SURE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THIS, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY FEW YEARS BACK, BROUGHT AND PRESENTED THE BOARD AND UH, WE GOT THE VARIANCES FOR IT AND THE SHAPE OF THIS LAT HAD BEEN DERIVED FROM UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SONY BOARD BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING US TO, UM, MINIMIZED THE AMOUNT OF VARIANCES.
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AND AS, UM, YOUR SUGGESTION AND IS PLANNING WISE MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE A STRAIGHT LINE.UH, SO NOW WE HAVE INCREASED A LOT BY NINE POINT A HALF PERCENT AND REDUCE THE OTHER LOT.
SO IT DOES INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES, BUT UH, IT DOES FOR A BETTER, UH, LOT LAYOUT.
AND UH, IF THE BOARD IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS, THEN I BELIEVE NEXT STEP IS GOING BACK TO THE SONY BOARD OF APPEALS.
UM, PATRICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING GUIDANCE YOU WANNA GIVE US TO SUMMARIZE THE ISSUE, WHICH WAS STRAIGHTEN THAT STRAIGHTENING OUT THAT LOT LINE.
SO THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THAT.
IT'S A BETTER LOT, UM, BUT IT DOES ADJUST THOSE VARIANCES.
BUT BY THE WAY, NOT THAT SIGNIFICANTLY.
THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME VARIANCES.
THE NUMBERS JUST ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, DO ANY MY FELLOW PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I THINK THIS IS MUCH BETTER, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE CONCERN WE EXPRESSED BEFORE WAS THAT KIND OF WEIRD TRIANGLE WOULD BE JUST SORT OF DEAD SPACE THAT IF IT COULD BECOME CONFUSING WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT OR NEGLECTED.
AND THAT I THINK THAT'S REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE REDESIGN.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WE ASKED FOR IT, SO WE'RE HAPPY
UM, THANKS FOR GOING BACK TO THE OLD DRAWINGS THAT IF I REMEMBER THE CORRECT ISSUE CORRECTLY.
UM, WELL THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT STAGE, I WANNA INVITE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED.
THIS LOOKS LIKE NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IS HERE FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO, UM, SO WE DO HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR ENGINEER WITH SOME REMAINING COMMENTS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME I THINK WE CAN REFER THEM.
WE, I THINK WE CAN REFER THE APPLICANT BACK TO THE ZONING AND BOARD OF APPEALS TO OBTAIN YOUR VARIANCES.
UM, AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE DO A SHORT MEMO TO THE, UM, ZBA, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S KNOWN AS, UM, INDICATING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD REQUESTED THE CHANGE TO THE LOT LINE AND THAT WE SUPPORT THE NECESSARY VARIANCES.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO EXPLAIN SO THAT YOU DON'T GO LOOPING AROUND BETWEEN OUR BOARDS.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL, UM, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND SO I, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON REFERRING, UH, FOLKS BEING READY FOR US TO REFER THIS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS? EVERYONE IS IN FAVOR OF THAT.
UM, I GUESS WE HAVE TO, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY TAKE A FORMAL VOTE THEN.
UM, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO REFER THE APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO OBTAIN THE NECESSARY VARIANCES? SO IN THIS DIRECTION,
ALL, ALL, ALL OF US VOTED IN FAVOR, SO THANK YOU.
SO WE'LL DO THAT AND WE'LL HAVE OUR, UM, VILLAGE ATTORNEY DRAFT THE LANGUAGE JUST SUMMARIZING OUR, UM, YES, THANK YOU TARYN, UM, SUMMARIZING OUR, UH, ASKING THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AND THE RATIONALE FOR IT.
MAYBE JUST FOR THE ZONING BOARD, JUST CORRECT THE FAR FOR, FOR LAW ONE WHEN YOU SUBMIT.
SO NEXT WE HAVE A, WE'RE MOVING ON TO A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT APPROVAL.
ROGER, UM, THE APPLICATION OF TRAVIS AND FIONA NOYCE TO CREATE A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS PER SECTION 2 95 DASH 67 D 0.2 B ABOVE THE DETACHED GARAGE ON THEIR SINGLE FAMILY LOT AT 3 24 FARGATE AVENUE.
SAID, PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT.
IT IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.1 10 DASH 1 24 DASH SEVEN ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS AND NO WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED.
UM, AGAIN, I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE HEARD THIS MATTER LAST MONTH AND REFERRED THEM TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR NECESSARY VARIANCES, WHICH WERE APPROVED.
UM, AND WE ASKED FOR A DETAIL ON THE LOCATION OF THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
UM, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT PICTURE, PICTURE UP? SO THIS IS THE NEW DRAWING.
WE, UH, MY NAME IS EDWARD WEINSTEIN.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND WE, UH, PROVIDED THIS DRAWING TO SHOW YOU THAT A, IF A CAR WERE PARKED TO THE LEFT OF THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, A THE CAR IN THE GARAGE COULD STILL MANEUVER OUT AND THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY ONE PARKING SPACE REQUIRED FOR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
AND THAT COULD BE EITHER ON THE SIDE THERE OR RIGHT BEHIND ONE OF THE EXISTING, UH, GARAGE SPACES.
THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
SO IT'S VERY CLEAR NOW THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE JUST CONCERNED, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO REALLY GAUGE WHETHER OR NOT THE ADDITIONAL CAR PARKED WOULD BLOCK, UM, RIGHT.
AND THAT PHOTOGRAPHS WERE, YEAH.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL CAR.
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THE, THE, UM, FLOOR, YEAH, THE SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS US PRETTY CLEARLY, SO THANK YOU.UM, SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, SO WE HAVE TO, UM, I NEED A MOTION TO REFER THE APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO OBTAIN THE NECESSARY NO, WE ALREADY GOT THE ANSWERS.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANNA SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? NO.
UM, SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACCESSORY APARTMENT PERMIT FOR TRAVIS AND FIONA NOYCE AT 3 24 FARRAGUT AVENUE.
PATRICK, WHO SECONDS IT? SECOND ANGEL.
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OKAY.UM, SO WE HAVE TWO NEW MATTERS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
ONE IS, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE ON THE THEME OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
IT'S, UM, A HOT TOPIC ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IN OUR OR HOUSING COUNTY.
IT'S HOUSING, IT'S A HOUSING WAYS OF THANK YOU, UM, OF, OF ADDING HOUSING IN PLACES WHERE IT FITS.
SO, UM, THIS ONE IS A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UM, APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION OF NICOLETTA BARINI TO CREATE A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS PER SECTION 2 95 DASH 67 D 0.2 B IN THE BASEMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AT ONE 10 HIGH STREET.
SAID PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE R 10 IN THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.1 10 DASH 1 0 8 DASH 60 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
TAX MAPS WAIVERS REQUIRED FOR OFF STREET PARKING AND MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, SO THEY ARE REQUIRED, THE WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED.
UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT? HI, THAT'S ME.
YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
UM, NO IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT ATTACHMENT TAPES.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A CONVERTER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BE, GO THROUGH ALL THIS.
I CAN START HERE AND, UM, OKAY.
SO, UM, I'VE BEEN IN HASTINGS FOR 33 YEARS.
UM, AND SO I AM NOW BECAUSE OF THE A DU, I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A BASEMENT APARTMENT THAT I CAN MOVE INTO.
AND MY KIDS WHO, MY ELDEST JUST HAD A CHILD.
SO I'M A GRANDMOTHER NOW, AND MY ELDEST CONGRATULATIONS.
WOULD OCCUPY THE HOUSE UPSTAIRS WHILE I WILL NESTLE AND HOPEFULLY DIE IN HASTINGS DOWNSTAIRS.
SO THAT'S THE PLAN IN A VERY LONG TIME.
MY, MY MOTHER WHO LIVED HERE TOO, LIVED TO SHUBA 97.
UM, SO THIS IS THE, THE, UH, PLAN, UH, THE ARCHITECT I'M WORKING WITH IS, UM, UH, MITCH KOCH, WHO'S FRIEND OF MINE.
'CAUSE OUR KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER, SO
AND, UM, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE PLANS HE MADE.
AND, UH, EXCUSE ME, I'M, WE ARE HEARING THE CONVERSATION IN THE BACK.
IF YOU COULD TAKE IT OUTSIDE OR JUST KEEP QUIET.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE DRESSING ME THAT I WAS DOING TERRIBLE.
I JUST DON'T, I WANNA HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO WE DON'T WANT THE DISTRACTION OF HEARING OTHER CONVERSATIONS.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE HOME, UH, AT ONE 10.
AND, UM, CURRENTLY WITH TWO, UH, UH, CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, SO THE, THIS IS THE BACK AND THIS IS THE AREA THAT THE, UH, APARTMENT WOULD GO INTO.
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AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PART, UH, THAT IS UNFINISHED WHERE I HAVE THE ARROW THERE, AND THEN YOU COULD SEE THIS PART HERE.SO THAT WINDOW WILL BE WIDENED, UH, RIGHT, MM-HMM
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, A SIMPLE, IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE SITUATION.
UM, SINCE MOST OF THE BASEMENT IS ALREADY FINISHED, UM, THE, YEAH, I WAS WAVING THE PARKING BECAUSE, UH, WE'VE HAD UP TO FOUR CARS, UH, WHEN THE FAMILY WAS BIG.
AND, UM, SO WE HAD PARKING ON THE STREET AND I'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
UH, SO WE'RE THINKING THAT THAT COULD STILL BE A POSSIBILITY.
UH, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS, UH, THE LOGIC IN THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE, YOU SAID TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.
TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, AND ONE CAR ON THE SIDE, AND THEN ANOTHER CAR ON, ON IN THE FRONT.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW YOU PLAN TO ENTER THE APARTMENT.
OH, I SHOULD HAVE MADE A PICTURE OF THE WALKWAY, BUT ON THE SIDE OF THE GARAGE IS A WALKWAY THAT GOES DOWNSTAIRS.
UM, SO YOU WOULD COME DOWN THE DRIVEWAY? YEAH, YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER HERE.
DO YOU SEE THE, THE WALKWAY ON THE SIDE OF THE GARAGE? AND IT'S AN EXISTING WALKWAY? YES.
AND I ACTUALLY JUST HAD THE STEPS REDONE JUST LAST SUMMER.
UH, SO YOU WALK DOWN TO THAT AND, UM, IT TAKES YOU TO THE BACK OF THE, OF THE HOUSE.
HOW MANY STEPS? 1, 2, 3, 5, 5 STEPS.
AND THERE'S AN EXISTING DOORWAY IN AND OUT OF THE, THE BASEMENT.
WELL, THE DOORWAY WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A PATIO SLIDING DOOR.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A, YOU WOULD GO DOWNSTAIRS AND IT WOULD BE KIND OF, IT WAS A PLAYROOM STUDIO TYPE THING, AND THEN YOU WOULD DO THE SLIDING DOOR AND GO OUT INTO THE PATIO.
BUT NOW IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A REAL DOOR.
AND NOT TO BE OVERLY PERSONAL, BECAUSE IT'S AN ISSUE THAT I'M DEALING WITH IN MY HOME AS WE AGE, STEPS BECOME MORE DIFFICULT.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER, UH, WAY UP, UM, WHERE, SO YOU GO THE OTHER WAY AND IT'S MORE OF A GUIDED PATH AND THERE'S JUST TWO SMALL, VERY THIN STEPS THAT WAY.
BUT THEN YOU DO HAVE TO WALK A LITTLE BIT UPHILL, BUT IT'S, IT'S A BETTER WAY THAN STEEPER STEPS.
SO YEAH, I THINK, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S VALID FOR SURE.
WE JUST NEED TO, UM, I THINK WE'D NEED YOU TO COME BACK WITH A DRAWING THAT JUST SHOWS THE ACCESS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAD DIDN'T SHOW ACCESS, SO THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE RECORD.
UM, IF YOU WANT STEEP STEPS OR YOU WANT GRADUAL STEPS, THAT'S REALLY UP TO YOU.
OH, WE ARE NOT GONNA WEIGH IN ON THAT.
UM, BUT YOU NEED ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS THAT SHOW THE OUTSIDE.
WE NEED THE SITE PLAN JUST TO SHOW THE WALKWAY.
SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW YOU ACCESS IT.
UM, WAIT, DO YOU HAVE, DID YOUR ARCHITECT GIVE YOU ONE? NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS WHAT I HAVE HERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, DO YOU WANNA PUT THE PLAN, DO YOU HAVE THE PLAN IN YOUR PRESENTATION JUST SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN? WELL, YEAH, THE SITE PLAN, I MEANT, I'M SORRY.
SO YOU SEE HOW WE, WE CAN'T TELL HOW YOU ENTER IT THERE.
SO THAT, UM, THE OTHER ONE IS HERE.
THAT DOESN'T SHOW IT THERE EITHER.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE JUST NOTICED WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING YOUR APPLICATION AND THAT, THAT WILL NEED TO GET ADDRESS ADDRESSED SO WE CAN APPROVE SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY WORKS.
YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT TO US SO WE CAN TELL IT WORKS.
AND IT BENEFITS YOU BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A RECORD OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON YOUR PROPERTY.
SO IF IT'S A QUESTION IN THE FUTURE, IT'S DOCUMENTED.
IT, IT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I'M ALSO WONDERING IF MAYBE THERE IS A WAY TO GO IN THROUGH THE GARAGE TOO, BUT MAYBE THAT WOULD, ANYWAY, I'M THINKING.
SO ON THAT, ON THAT POINT ACTUALLY, PATRICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, COMMENTS OR, UM, NO, THIS IS A, THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
THE, THE TWO WAIVERS ARE RELATIVELY DI MINIMIS AND THE FACT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PARKING CONCESSIONS MADE OVER THE PAST AND IT'S WORKED.
WE'VE SEEN OTHERS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE FUSSED ABOUT THAT.
UM, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE APPARENTLY IT'S BEEN AN, AND IT'S PUBLIC PARKING, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE STREETS.
IT'S PERHAPS ONE OF THE, SORRY, PATRICK, IT'S PERHAPS ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES FOR AN A DU SCENARIO.
IT'S WHAT ADUS ARE OFTEN INTENDED
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FOR.DO WE, UM, WELL WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS CONCERNS, QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UM, GLAD YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN AND, UM, WE'D JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT REVISED PLAN WITH THE ACCESS.
SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD OTHER THAN THAT, THAT TALK ABOUT IT? UM, SO THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE THAT MIGHT, YOU MIGHT WANNA SHOW IN THE PLAN IS IF THERE'S ANY MODIFICATION TO THE UTILITIES THAT WOULD SERVE THE UNIT.
SO IF YOU'RE MAKING A NEW CONNECTION WITH AN OVERHEAD UTILITY LINE, OR YOU'RE ADDING A SEWER LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NO, WE'RE NOT ADDING A SEWER LINE THAT I KNOW FOR SURE.
UM, BUT IF YOU ARE, YOU SHOULD SHOW IT ON THE DRAWING JUST SO IT'S AGAIN, CLEAR FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
YEAH, I THINK, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, SINCE THE, THE WAIVER, THIS IS AN APPLICATION, AS WE SAID PREVIOUSLY, THAT WAIVERS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE OFF STREET PARKING AND THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IT IS, UM, BEYOND THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH WE CAN WAIVE.
AND, AND OBVIOUSLY IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S THE SIZE OF THE BASEMENT, RIGHT.
SO WE WOULDN'T ASK THEM TO REDUCE THAT.
BUT I JUST WANNA, UM, MAKE SURE MY FELLOW PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, UM, FEEL OKAY WITH THE REQUEST OF THOSE TWO WAIVERS.
SO, 'CAUSE WE SHOULD VOICE THAT NOW IF WE, IF WE DO HAVE CONCERNS.
SORRY, THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, IS IT ABOVE THE LIMIT OR BELOW THE, THE, IT'S ABOVE.
I'D OFFER ONE COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO SQUARE FOOTAGES AND ACCESSORY APARTMENTS ARBITRARILY MANIPULATING YOUR BASEMENT TO CONFORM WITH THE CODE OFTEN DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THE APPROVAL, THE WALL GETS KNOCKED DOWN OR THE SILLY CLOSET GETS MODIFIED OR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO IF THERE'S A LOGIC TO THE SIZE OF THE APARTMENT, THAT SHOULD BE A, A PRINCIPLE THAT GUIDES YOUR DECISION MAKING.
AND HERE THERE IS 'CAUSE IT'S THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
I I, I DON'T THINK IT JUST FOR THE, THE SAKE OF SAYING YOU NEED TO MAKE IT SMALLER TO CONFORM WITH THE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW FAMILY MEMBER.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU JACK'S DAD? I AM, YEAH.
YOU MAY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT I'LL ASK, I'LL ASK ABOUT YOU IN THE MORNING.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK FOR THE REVISED, UM, SITE PLAN AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT ON THIS BOARD FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU COME.
I GUESS, SHOULD WE CHANGE MY NAME TAG JACK STAT? DIGGINS.
UM, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE, UM, NEW PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS STEVE SLOPE'S APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION OF WILLIAM AND AMY WEBER FOR DIS DISTURBANCES TO REGULATED STEEP SLOPES TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SWIMMING POOLS AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT 2 43 SOUTH BROADWAY.
PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2 49 OF THE VILLAGE CODE, SAID PROPERTY IS IN THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS ALSO KNOWN AS SBL 4.1 10 DASH 98 DASH ONE ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT? MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, UH, POINT OF ORDER, UM, I WILL HAVE TO ACTUALLY RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ONE.
'CAUSE I ENJOY AMY AND BILL'S BACKYARD, UH, EVERY NOW AND THEN SWIMMING POOL.
ARE WE VOTING ON NO, NO, NO, NO.
IF YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH THE APPLICANT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ACTUAL, LIKE WITHIN A PROXIMITY NEIGHBORS, THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT MORE FEEL AS THOUGH YOUR FRIENDSHIP SOMEHOW WOULD AFFECT YOUR DECISION.
OKAY, THEN I WILL, I WILL STAY, I WILL REMAIN THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN BE IMPARTIAL.
WE'RE WE'RE I'M ONLY ON THE OTHER BLOCK.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THAT, THAT CLOSE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
I, WHEN YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEIR APPLICATION GOES WITHOUT A SNAFU OKAY.
YOU FEEL THAT YOU BE IMPARTIAL ON THIS APPLICATION? YES.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR DISCLOSING THAT.
UM, AND, UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSAL? THAT'S ALL.
I'M THE AR AN ARCHITECT FROM, UH, AT 22 ELM STREET, DOBBS FERRY.
UM, AND, UH, JUST ON THE, JUST AN ASIDE ON THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THING, 25 YEARS AGO, I THINK I DID THE FIRST ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UM, IN HASTINGS AT A HUNDRED PINE
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CREST.AND NOW THERE'S THE, THERE'S FOUR GENERATIONS WHO HAVE LIVED IN THAT BUILDING.
'CAUSE IT WAS PARENTS WHO HAD, UH, CHILDREN IN THE HOUSE.
AND NOW THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT GENERATION WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SON AND GRANDCHILDREN IN THE HOUSE.
SO IT'S, THAT'S, IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL AND HAPPY CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO I'VE HEARD A LOT OF STORIES AND LEGENDS ABOUT PINE CREST.
THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON PINE CREST, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
UM, SO I'M, I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE, UH, REPRESENTING THE WEBERS WHO HAVE COURAGEOUSLY TAKEN ON THIS WONDERFUL HISTORIC PROPERTY ON BROADWAY, UH, WHICH IS PART OF THE LEGACY OF THE DRAPER FAMILY, WHICH IS THIS HISTORIC FAMILY WAS SO IMPORTANT TO, UH, ASTRONOMY, MEDIC MEDICINE, AND HASTINGS.
UH, SO THIS IS THE WHAT JUST HAPPENED? YOUR CONNECTION.
THERE IS ALWAYS ONE EVERY MEETING, SO, OKAY.
I'M IT, YOU KNOW WHAT, UNPLUG, PLUG IT BACK IN.
SO THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO OAK LEDGE AT, AT 2 4 3 BROADWAY.
IF I CAN GET THE THING TO MOVE
AND THIS IS A LITTLE, UH, A, A WONDERFUL LITTLE, UH, VINTAGE GARAGE IN THE BACK OF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT JOE RENA, THE ENGINEER, WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE, THE VIEW, UH, FROM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
ANOTHER VIEW, ANOTHER VIEW YOU CAN SEE OFF TO THE PALISADES ACROSS THE PROPERTY.
UM, LOOKING BACK, UM, THIS IS FROM THE NORTH SIDE, UH, I KNOW FROM THE REAR LOOKING AT, UH, A, UM, A PREVIOUS ADDITION.
THIS IS STONEHOUSE, WHICH STARTED OUT AND THEN HAD TWO ADDITIONS, STARTED OFF EARLY IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 19TH CENTURY, AND THEN HAD, UH, SEVERAL STONE ADDITIONS ADDED TO IT.
AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A, A, A THIRD APPROPRIATE, UH, SYMPATHETIC ADDITION TO THIS BUILDING.
LOOKING, UH, FROM THE HOUSE, UH, BACK DOWN THE DRIVE TO THE EAST AS YOU ARRIVE, THERE'S THIS WONDERFUL, UH, GABLE, UM, TWO STORY GABLE THAT IS, UM, A, A VICTORIAN ADDITION ALONG WITH THE, UH, PORCH TO THE SIDE AND THE, UH, GINGERBREAD, UH, RAKE LOOKING BACK, UH, LOOKING ACROSS FROM THE BORDER OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY, WHICH WE ALSO, UH, WORKED ON.
AND THEN LOOKING BACK, UM, SORT OF NORTHWEST, JUST A WONDERFUL PROPERTY WITH VINTAGE TREES.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING TO THE NORTH TO, UM, THE FORMER, UM, MCHALE O'HALLORAN PROPERTY.
I GUESS PROPERTIES ARE ALWAYS KNOWN BY THE PREVIOUS, SO THIS WILL BE THE HIRSCH PROPERTY UNTIL, UM, UNTIL AMY AND BILL REALLY TAKE HOLD.
SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE HOUSE.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOE RENA TO TALK ABOUT STEEP SLOPES AND THE, AND THE SITE PLAN ISSUES.
JOSEPH RENA, THE PRINCIPAL SITE DESIGN CONSULTANTS.
UM, I JUST WANT TO GET BACK TO, UM, HOW DO WE GO BACKWARDS HERE? THE OTHER SIDE.
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OH, THAT'S THE ONE I WANTED.UH, SO AS, AS STEVE EXPLAINED, UH, WE'RE HERE FOR A, UM, APPLICATION, UH, PROPOSING AN ADDITION ON THE HOUSE AND PROPOSING A POOL ADDITION IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AND A POOL HOUSE.
SO THE EXISTING GARAGE STRUCTURE IS GONNA BE CONVERTED INTO A POOL HOUSE.
SO THIS AREA HERE WHERE YOU SEE THIS GROWTH IN HERE, THIS IS THE AREA THAT THE POOL IS GOING IN.
SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, UM, HOW THIS IS GONNA BE SITUATED IN THE PROPERTY.
SO THE SITE IS, UM, ZONE R UM, R 10.
IT'S THE PROPOSED POOL, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IS, UM, GONNA, UH, GONNA BE 20 BY 50.
IT'S GONNA HAVE, OF COURSE, PATIOS AROUND IT AND TERRACING, UH, IT'S GONNA UTILIZE THE EXISTING GARAGE STRUCTURE, AS I STATED AS POOL, HOUSE POOL STRUCTURE.
UM, THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS 1.78 ACRES.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, UH, UH, SUBSURFACE STORMWATER INFILTRATION SYSTEM FOR ALL THE NEW IMPERVIOUS AREA.
THAT'LL PICK UP THE NEW ADDITION, THE NEW DECK ON THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, AS WELL AS, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE POOL.
UM, THAT'S BEING DESIGNED TO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.
THE, UM, WE'VE PREPARED AN EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL PLAN FOR THE PROJECT TO MANAGE, MANAGE THE SITE, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION.
UH, CURRENTLY THE, THE H THE HOME IS ON A SEPTIC SYSTEM, WHICH IS IN THIS LOCATION HERE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ABANDONED.
AND WE'RE PRO GOING TO PRO BE PROVIDING A NEW SEWER CONNECTION THROUGH THE HASTING LANDING PROPERTY.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, UH, AN EASEMENT THAT'S UNDERWAY OR CLOSE TO BEING FINALIZED.
THE LANGUAGE IS CLOSE TO BEING FINALIZED ON THAT EASEMENT.
UH, IT'S AGREED UPON, BUT IT'S JUST, IT HASN'T BEEN SIGNED.
THE SIGNATURE HAS NOT BEEN PUT PAID TO PAPER YET.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING THAT EASEMENT TO INSTALL A GRAVITY SEWER LINE, WHICH WILL PICK UP FROM WHERE THE EXISTING SEPTIC, UH, UH, PIPE LEAVES THE HOUSE.
THE EXISTING SEPTIC LINE LEAVES THE HOUSE, THE SEWER LINE RATHER, AND IT'S GONNA RUN DOWN THE HILL DOWN AND THROUGH THIS EASEMENT AND TIE INTO EXISTING PUBLIC SEWER, WHICH IS ON THE HASTINGS LANDINGS PROPERTY.
SO THE NEW SEWER PICKS UP THE EXISTING HOUSE AS WELL AS THE POOL HOUSE.
IT'S GOING TO, UH, SERVICE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
UM, IN, IN TOTAL THAT, THAT SEWER LINE IS ABOUT 540 FEET.
ABOUT, UH, 240 FEET OF IT IS ON THE WEBER PROPERTY, AND ABOUT 300 FEET IS GONNA BE, UH, OFF SITE.
UM, THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA REMOVE FOUR TREES ON SITE TWO ARE INVASIVE.
UH, ONE IS DEAD, ONE HAS, UH, BROKEN APART AND FALLEN, AND TWO OFFSITE JUST RIGHT, RIGHT.
WHEN YOU GET OFF THE SITE RIGHT HERE, TWO TREES ARE GONNA COME OUT HERE AND KNOW THOSE ARE INVASIVE TREES.
AND THERE, THERE WE, WE HAD AN ARBORIST DO A REPORT ON THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL BEEN SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE DOCUMENTATION.
UM, ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR THE PROJECT, UM, WE ARE DISTURBING SOME STEEP SLOPES, WHICH IS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
SO, UM, THE BRIGHTER OR THE, THE, THE DARKER ORANGE, UM, ARE THE 15 TO 25% SLOPE AND THE BRIGHTER ORANGES, UH, 25% AND ABOVE OF THOSE SLOPES, ABOUT 28% OF THE SLOPES ARE GONNA BE 15 TO 25% THAT WE'RE DISTURBING.
AND ABOUT, UH, JUST SHY OF 5% OF THE 25% AND GREATER SLOPES.
AND, AND, UH, THE AREA OF DISTURBANCE
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IS CONTAINED BASICALLY AROUND, AROUND THE POOL STRUCTURE, THE POOL PLACEMENT, UM, AND THE SEWER LINE GOING OUT HERE THROUGH THAT, THAT BIT THERE, UM, THIS AREA UP HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SHOWING SLOPES, WE HAD TO SHOW THE ENTIRE SITE THAT'S NOT BEING DISTURBED.AND THESE AREAS OUT IN THE OUTLINING AREAS, THOSE ARE NOT BEING DISTURBED.
SO DON'T, DON'T THINK ALL THOSE SLOPES THAT YOU SEE ON THERE ARE, ARE PART OF THAT DISTURBANCE, UH, NUMBER.
UM, AND, AND, AND THAT WILL ALL BE MITIGATED PROPERLY AND IT'S ALL, UH, UH, COVERED IN OUR EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL PLAN.
AND IT WILL ALL BE RESTORED SO THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A STABLE IN THE, UH, SLOPE IN THE LONG TERM.
UH, AS I SAID BEFORE WE SUBMITTED, I THINK WE'VE SUBMITTED ALL DOCUMENTATION THAT'S NECESSARY.
ALL OUR APPLICATIONS ARE IN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, UH, STORMWATER REPORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
AND, UM, UM, I THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD POSITION NOW, UH, FOR, UH, FOR YOU TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, PATRICK, WHY DON'T YOU KICK US OFF WITH ANY COMMENTS? SURE.
SO THE, THE ONLY ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR THE POOL AND THE SEWER LINE, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOME.
THAT'S A SEPARATE BUILDING PERMIT THAT GOES THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO NOT YOUR ISSUE OR YOUR CONCERN, BUT I WILL, I WILL SAY THEY'RE IN GOOD HANDS WITH MR. TILLEY, WHO, WHO IS THE PREMIER HISTORICAL ARCHITECT IN THE COUNTY.
SO I THINK THAT CLIENT HAS REPRESENTATION HERE AND WE'VE HEARD FROM, UM, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROPERTY.
SO DOING THIS RIGHT REALLY MATTERS.
THERE'S ONLY SOME REALLY NO PLANNING ISSUES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, IT BECOMES SELF-EVIDENT.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS PUT THE POOL SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THOSE DISTURBED STEEP SLOPES.
IF YOU DID THAT, YOU'D LOSE CONTACT WITH THE EXISTING GARAGE AND THEY BUILD ANOTHER STRUCTURE SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT'S MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
SO PUTTING IT THERE MAKES SOME SENSE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S SOME IMPACT IN THE CORNERS.
BUT AS YOU SAW FROM THAT IMAGE, THAT'S SORT OF A LEVEL AREA IN BETWEEN THE SLOPING AREAS, SO NOT A BAD LOCATION.
AND IF IT WERE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU'D BE IN THE SIDE YARD OR THE FRONT YARD AND YOU'D BE BUILDING MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ANYWAY.
SO NOT A BAD LOCATION FOR THIS AT, AT THE LONG RUN, THE EASEMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, I'M SURE THEY'RE CORRECT.
UM, AND THAT CAN BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UM, BUT SOMETHING FROM THEM JUST SAYING WE WILL AGREE TO THAT EASEMENT DOCUMENT WHEN OUR LAWYERS FIGURE IT OUT WOULD BE USEFUL.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN GIVE YOU NOW THAT HELD PRIVATELY.
AND YOU, AND YOU SAW, UM, DOUG HANS MEMO LATER THIS LATE THIS AFTERNOON, NO MAJOR SICK ISSUES, BUT JOE, SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW DOUG'S MEMO, SO A COUPLE THINGS TO ADDRESS.
UM, I DID, UH, I DID GET DOUG'S MEMO THIS AFTERNOON.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY ON THERE THAT'S ALARMING.
UH, IT'S VERY EASILY, UM, UM, ADDRESSED.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL, WE'VE RUN OUTTA POWER AND, UH, THAT'S, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS AND WE'VE EACH GOT ONE.
SO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU WHICHEVER ONE YOU DIDN'T GET.
ONE IS FROM THE, THE ENGINEER HIRED BY HASTINGS LANDING SAYING IT'S FEASIBLE AND THE OTHER IS FROM THE LAWYER SAYING THE TERMS. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? UM, I, I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS, BUT JUST WHEN YOU SPEAK ON ON RECORD, YOU NEED TO JUST DO THAT FOR US.
I'M AMY WEBER AND I LIVE AT 94 MAPLE AVENUE AND 2 43 BROADWAY.
JUST WRITE IT DOWN THERE SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF WHO WAS SPEAKING AND WHEN, WHEN THIS IS TRANSCRIBED.
SO THE LETTERS CONFIRM WHAT THEY'VE SAID.
BOTH LETTERS CONFIRM WHAT MR. RINA DESCRIBED.
ALRIGHT, UM, WITH THAT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PRESENT BEFORE WE HAVE A CONVERSATION? I, I DO NOT.
I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST SAYING BEFORE THE POWER WENT OUT ON THE LAPTOP THAT, UM, UM, WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH, WITH THE HAN MEMO AND EASILY ADDRESSED, THAT'S GONNA IMPACT WHAT WE PRESENTED TONIGHT.
SO, UM, I INVITE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE COMMENTS.
UH, WILL IT BE SALT WATER OR CHLORINE
I WOULD SAY LIKE, YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK, YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE ROOM.
YOU SHOULD HAVE MADE HIM CUS HIMSELF, UM, IT'LL BE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME OVER AND SWIM IN.
UM, IT, THAT LOCATION OF THE POOL, NOT ONLY FOR ALL
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REASONS YOU SAID, BUT ALSO BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THERE WAS A SECOND BARN IN THAT LOCATION.UM, AND SO THE EXISTING ROCK WALLS, THEY TORE THE BARN DOWN AT SOME POINT TO MAKE FLOWER GARDENS.
UM, WE HAVE PICTURES, UH, THAT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS PROVIDED AND THAT THE FOR INHERITED, UM, THAT SHOW THE OLD WOODEN BARN THAT WAS NEXT TO THE BARN THAT HE SHOWED YOU.
SO THE IDEA IS KIND OF TO RECREATE THAT AND THAT'S WHY.
UM, ANY OTHER EXCITING? OH, IT SEEMS, UH, I'LL JUST SAY IT LOOKS LIKE A, A VERY NICE DESIGN AND, UM, WHILE WE DO NEED TO GIVE IT STEVE SLOPE'S APPROVAL, IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE AN EXCESSIVE, UM, ASK, UM, IN MY VIEW IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, CONGRATS.
WELL IT'S NOT APPROVED YET,
UM, WELL I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THE, THE MEMO FROM THE VILLAGE ENGINEER, WHICH WE'LL, UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY NEED TO SEE THE APPLICANT, UM, RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
UM, AND SO, UH, WITH THAT I'D ASK THE BOARD IF YOU'RE ARE COMFORTABLE IN APPROVING THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANT, SATISFYING THE COMMENTS.
UM, SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE READY FOR THAT.
SO, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANT? SATISFYING THE COMMENTS IN THE HA MEMO.
NOW WE CAN SAY CONGRATULATIONS,
[V. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE ONE LAST DISCUSSION ITEM.WE'RE NOT DONE YET FOR THE EVENING.
UM, THIS, SO THIS LAST DISCUSSION ITEM IS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS, UM, MADE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DRAFT LAW TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS FOR ACCESSORY APARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE CHANGE, UM, TO REFER THEM AS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
AND, UM, JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, OR FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T HERE AT THAT MEETING, WE, UM, WE REVIEWED THAT PRIOR DRAFT AND WE HAD PROVIDED COMMENTS TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
WE'VE, UM, SOME OF US FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE, UM, AND, UH, THEY HAVE MADE REVISIONS IN PART IN RESPONSE TO OUR COMMENTS.
IT'S WORTH, UM, DOING THAT AND SENDING THE MEMO OVER.
UM, TARYN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUMMARIZE THE REVISIONS? MY PLEASURE.
SO DAN STILL CAN'T SEE YOU, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
SO IT'S REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THE AMENDMENTS ARE REALLY ABOUT NOTICE.
SO CURRENTLY NOTICE FOR AN A DU IS REQUIRED TO ALL NEIGHBORS WITHIN 300 FEET.
AND PLANNING BOARD REVIEW IS REQUIRED IF ANYONE OBJECTS TO THE APPLICATION.
SO WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES DO IS NOW NOTICE WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, IF ANY APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER OR IS REQUEST OR IS PROPOSING AN A DU AND A NEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT'S BILLED AFTER OCTOBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S THE TRIGGER FOR NOTICE PLAYING WEB REVIEW, NOT JUST A NEIGHBOR OBJECTION.
IT WOULD BE A WAIVER OR A NEW STRUCTURE.
HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT THAT CHANGE? I, I LOOKS GOOD.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO, WHO FIRST UM, RAISED THE OBJECTION.
I THINK IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS YOU, DAVID.
SO THERE A NEIGHBOR OBJECTION IS NO LONGER GROUNDS FOR PLANNING BOARD REVIEW OR THIS WOULDN'T BE ADDITIONAL THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
BUT, BUT THEY, IT'S STILL A PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY'D STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
IT JUST WOULDN'T BE THE TRIGGER TO BRING IT TO YOU.
IF, IF A PLANNING BOARD REVIEW IS REQUIRED, THEN THE NEIGHBORS CAN COME AND COMMENT.
BUT A NEIGHBOR COMMENT WILL NOT TRIGGER A PLANNING BOARD REVIEW.
NOT TO REHASH IT, BUT WE JUST FELT LIKE, UH, IT IT, IT PUT AN UNNECESSARY IMPETUS ON THE INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO BUILD THE A DU AND THEN ALSO ON US, RIGHT? IT'S THE POINT, YEAH.
THE POINT ON THE, THE CHANGE WAS THAT, UM, THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION WITH THIS NEW LAW AND, UM, HAVING THE, THE NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS SOON AS SOMEBODY RAISES ANY QUESTION OR OBJECTION, JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO US IF IT WAS DEFEATED THE PURPOSE, SO MM-HMM
WELL, SOMETIMES NEIGHBORS DON'T GET ALONG
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RIGHT.OH, REALLY? WE HAVEN'T NOTICED
WELL, IF ANYBODY HERE HAPPENS TO SEE ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, PLEASE TELL THEM.
I THINK THERE IS A MEMBER WHO DELIVER THAT.
UM, SO IF WE DON'T, UM, WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO VOTE ON THIS AGAIN, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST COMMENTING.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL HAPPY.
UM, YEAH, YOU HAD SOMETHING IF YOU WANT, PLEASE CHANGE IT IN SOME WAY.
PLAN, UM, BOARD OF TRUSTEES BOARD WILL BE COMMENTING ON THIS AT THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK AS WELL, SO YEAH, I THINK WE'RE DONE.
UM, SO WE HAVE NO OTHER MATTERS ON, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON NOVEMBER 20TH, SO THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
AND DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? AND I THINK THAT IS MY SWAN SONG.
WELL, YOU'RE HERE IN NOVEMBER, ERNESTO? OR IS TODAY'S THE LAST UH, WELL I'M, I THOUGHT IT WAS NOVEMBER, BUT I KEPT HEARING TODAY WAS IT'S ALL, NO, I DIDN'T SAY TODAY WAS, UM, I THINK MARY ELLEN THOUGHT, AND I THINK PATRICK THOUGHT AS WELL THAT OH, BUT NOVEMBER 20TH.
WE'LL SEE YOU AT NOVEMBER 20TH SUSPEND.
AND THEN WE'LL, AND WE'LL THANK YOU THEN.
SO, WHO, WHO'S, UM, MOTION TO PUT MOTION? ERNESTO? WHO SECOND IT.