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SO HERE WE ARE.

IT'S, UH, DECEMBER 10TH.

HAVE YOU PURCHASED ALL YOUR HOLIDAY ITEMS, ? WELL, I HAVE GOOD NEWS THIS WEEKEND HERE AT THE LIBRARY, YOU'RE GONNA FIND SOME ONE OF A KIND ITEMS, UM, IF YOU LIKE THE OFF THE BEATEN PATH GIFT, WE HAVE JUST, JUST A FEW OF THE WARES DISPLAYED OVER THERE, EVEN MORE IN THOSE BOXES OVER THERE.

AND SOON ENOUGH, THIS SATURDAY, SUNDAY IN THE LIBRARY, MANY, MANY MORE.

AND I'M SURE AS MANY GIFTS THERE ARE TO SELL, THERE ARE STORIES BEHIND THEM FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ARE SELLING THEM.

SO THAT'S COMING UP.

UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER LOCAL LUMINARIES IN JANUARY I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

IT'S, UH, A, A FRIEND OF MINE, UH, A COLLEAGUE WHO IS AN EDUCATOR, UH, MY FORMER COLLEAGUE, UH, HIS NAME IS ROY BLUMENFELD, AND HE'S AT FIELDSTON SCHOOL, AND HE IS SPEAKING WITH AN WOMAN WHOSE NAME, I'M JUST BLANKING.

I DON'T WANT TO GET IT WRONG.

UM, HER NAME IS ERICA CHAPMAN AND SHE, UH, RAN THE CITY TERM AT MASTER SCHOOL.

AND MY FRIEND ROY RUNS THE CITY SEMESTER AT FIELDSTON SCHOOL AND THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT EXPERIENTIAL EDUCATION.

THEY'RE BRILLIANT, AND I'M, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.

THAT'S THURSDAY, JANUARY 15TH.

UM, BUT NOW WE HAVE TONIGHT, PETER RUKI.

RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE A FRIEND OF PETER'S.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, THAT'S RARE.

YEAH, YEAH.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN GOOD COMPANY.

UM, EVEN THOUGH HE COULD HAVE MAILED IT IN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, HE, WE, YOU KNOW, HE PREPARED, HE HAD A, FRANKLY, A WHOLE CAREER LEADING INTO THIS.

SO, UM, MANY OF US KNOW PETER AS THE MAYOR FOR 10 YEARS.

UM, WILL THAT LENGTH OF OF MAYORSHIP BE BE REPEATED? UNLIKELY.

UM, SO I ALWAYS, HE WAS MAYOR WHEN I MOVED TO TOWN IN 2015.

AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATED YOUR ELOQUENCE, YOUR, YOUR CLARITY OF LANGUAGE.

I, I'VE MISSED THOSE, UH, MISSIVES, RIGHT? SO LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE WRITTEN WORD HERE AT THE LIBRARY.

UM, AND PRIOR TO THAT, ON THE, ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR EIGHT YEARS, UM, NOW SIX, I'M SORRY.

AND NOW HE'S ON THE BOARD OF OUR LIBRARY.

UM, AND, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, HE'S OUR TREASURER RIGHT NOW, SO I KNOW HE'S REALLY, UH, INSISTENT ON DETAIL.

SO I'M GONNA READ THIS PART SO I DON'T MESS IT UP.

UH, TALKING ABOUT HIS CAREER AND HIS, UH, QUALIFICATIONS TO, TO LEAD US TONIGHT IN THIS REALLY INTERESTING, AND, UM, WELL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET YOUR ADJECTIVES AFTER THE TALK.

I THINK.

I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE QUITE CAPTIVATED.

UM, PETER'S CAREER FOCUSED ON BUSINESS ANALYSIS AND MANAGEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY PRODUCTS, WORKING IN BOTH CONSULTING COMPANIES AND BANKING.

HE WAS MOST RECENTLY HEAD OF PRIVACY OPERATIONS FOR THE BANK OF NEW YORK, MANAGING A TEAM WHICH HANDLED PRIVACY BREACHES AND ENSURED THE BANK BECAME COMPLIANT WITH NEW PRIVACY REGULATIONS.

UM, I KNOW THAT HE ENCOURAGES YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, AND HE HAS HANDOUTS FOR YOU THAT THAT WILL BECOME, THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE A SCREEN.

UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD PROGRAM.

THANKS SO MUCH, PETER, FOR JOINING US.

THANKS FOR COMING OUT ON A RAINY, COLD NIGHT.

AND THANK YOU, TIM, FOR THE INTRO.

UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO COVER TONIGHT, AND I WANNA LEAVE AT LEAST A HALF HOUR FOR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN INTERESTING TOPIC AND, UH, SO RELEVANT RIGHT NOW.

UH, AS TIM MENTIONED, UH, I RAN PRIVACY OPERATIONS, WHICH MEANS MY UNIT HANDLED ALL PRIVACY BREACHES OF CUSTOMER AND EMPLOYEE DATA.

UH, OUR ACCOUNT DATA MAY HAVE BEEN HACKED FROM A LAW FIRM WE USED, OR SOMEBODY LOST THEIR LAPTOP.

UH, FUN LITTLE SIDEBAR STORY.

UH, WHEN CRIME RINGS HACK THAT SORT OF DATA, THEY'RE USUALLY DOING IT FOR RANSOM.

AND THERE'S AN INDUSTRY OUT THERE OF CYBERSECURITY FIRMS WHO FOCUS ON NEGOTIATING WITH THESE GANGS.

UH, AND THESE GANGS, WHICH ARE ALL BRANDED, THEY ALL HAVE NAMES, UH, PROMISED TO DELETE THE DATA THAT THEY'VE STOLEN AND PROVIDE LITERALLY CERTIFICATION THAT THEY WON'T DO IT AGAIN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A REPUTATION.

AND IF THEY START TO BREAK THAT RECORD, WHO'S GONNA GIVE THEM MONEY? BECAUSE ALL THESE FIRMS ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

SO, YOU KNOW, HONOR AMONG THIEVES, UM, CRAZY.

AND I THINK THAT'S A WORD WE'RE

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GONNA HEAR A LOT TONIGHT.

SO PRIVACY SEEMS TO BE EVERYWHERE IN THE NEWS.

UH, IN, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UH, WE'VE READ ABOUT ICE AGENTS, UH, WHO HAVE AN APP ON THEIR PHONES.

THEY CAN POINT IT AT YOU AND IT DRAWS ON A DATABASE OF SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION PHOTOS AND INDICATES WHETHER YOU ARE A CITIZEN OR NOT.

UH, NEW YORK TIMES THIS MORNING, INTERESTING ARTICLE.

INSTACART MAY CHARGE YOU A DIFFERENT PRICE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.

UH, AND AMAZON DELTA AIRLINES, OTHERS HAVE DONE THIS BASED ON INFORMATION THEY'VE COLLECTED ON YOU.

THE CHILDREN'S VIDEO GAME ROADBLOCKS.

IT VERIFIES THE AGE OF ITS USERS BY USING THE CAMERA ON THE SYSTEM TO LOOK AT THEIR FACES AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE YOUNGER THAN 18.

HMM.

UH, AGAIN, CRAZY AND SCARY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY LOVE THIS STUFF.

UH, JUST FASCINATING.

UH, LET'S START WITH AGREEING ON WHAT WE MEAN ABOUT PRIVACY.

IT'S CULTURAL.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE STATES IS SORT OF DEEP IN THE ANGLO-SAXON TRADITION SUMMARIZED BY, YOU KNOW, THE TERM MIND, YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

AND IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS A RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE.

CHINESE DON'T SHARE THAT.

AND, UH, THEIR SOCIETY IS, IS HEADING IN A DIRECTION THAT IS DYSTOPIAN.

THE GERMANS TILT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION AFTER THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH ASASI AND GESTAPO.

UH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THE TOUGHEST PRIVACY LAWS OUT THERE.

SO WE'RE GONNA COVER HOW YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION, PI, AS IT'S CALLED, IS AT RISK.

HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, BIT OF HISTORY.

AND I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY INTERESTING.

I THINK ALL THIS STUFF IS INTERESTING, UH, WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY IS HEADED.

AND THEN ACTUALLY SPEND SOME TIME ON WHAT YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT YOUR PRIVACY.

AND I'M GONNA HANDOUTS HERE.

YOU CAN PICK UP ON YOUR WAY OUT.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THEM RIGHT NOW, NO .

UM, AND, AND THOSE ARE FAIRLY DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO TO ACTUALLY ACT ON THE THINGS I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE THINK WE UNDERSTAND HOW PROFOUND THE RISK IS TO OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION.

UH, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY MUCH WORSE THAN YOU THINK.

UH, IN THE PRIVACY ARENA, THERE'S THIS CONCEPT OF SOMETHING CALLED THE PRIVACY THREAT SURFACE.

THINK OF IT AS A SPHERE OF INFORMATION AROUND YOU THAT PRESENTS YOUR DATA OUT TO THE WORLD AND IS AT RISK.

WHAT INFORMATION CAN BE GLEANED BY MARKETING FIRMS, BY GOVERNMENTS, SCAMMERS, JUST PLAIN BUSY BUDDIES.

AND THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT AND CONTROL THIS INFORMATION, EVEN IF NO ATTACK ACTUALLY OCCURS.

WE'VE GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT SO MUCH OF OUR LIFE IS IN PUBLIC, AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT FACEBOOK, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE INFORMATION ABOUT YOU LEAKS OUT EVERY DAY, ALL DAY LONG.

YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY DEVICES THAT MONITOR YOU.

YOUR AMAZON ECHO DEVICE, YOUR SMARTWATCH, SMART TV LAPTOP, YOUR DOORBELL THESE DAYS, YOUR SMART ELECTRIC METER, YOUR CAR, YOU KNOW, MY GOD, YOUR CAR.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

UH, YOUR EPASS FOOD TOWN AFFINITY CARD, YOUR FITBIT, THE TILE THAT TRACKS YOUR KEYS, CREDIT CARDS.

AND, AND THE WORST OF IT IS REALLY YOUR PHONE.

GO INTO GOOGLE, GOOGLE MAPS AND YOU'LL FIND A TIMELINE PAGE THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHERE YOU WENT EVERY DAY FOR MONTHS.

WHEN I SAW THAT, IT FREAKED ME OUT.

I JUST TURNED IT OFF.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY TURN IT OFF.

THANK GOD.

UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN APPLE AIR TAG OR TILE ON, EXCUSE ME, CHAIN.

WE'RE A FITBIT , UH, HAVE A SMARTPHONE.

WE ALL DO THE ALL BROADCAST WHERE WE ARE CONSTANTLY, THESE APPS ARE COLLECTING AND SHARING MEGABYTES OF INFORMATION.

SO EVERY TIME YOU SEE AN AD ON YOUR PHONE OR LAPTOP, A LITTLE MIRACLE HAS OCCURRED.

AND I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S HEARING THIS A LOT FROM YOU.

REALLY INTERESTING.

GOOGLE ASSIGNS YOU WHAT'S KNOWN AS AN ADVERTISING ID.

IT'S UNIQUE TO YOU.

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AND WHENEVER YOU LOG ONTO GOOGLE ON YOUR PHONE, YOUR LAPTOP OR COMPUTER, IT LINKS ALL THOSE DEVICES TO YOU AND COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM ALL OF THOSE DEVICES.

AND YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED THAT ADS SEEM TO MOVE AND FOLLOW YOU EVERYWHERE.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO A WEBPAGE, AN AD IS ABOUT TO POP UP.

GOOGLE SENDS OUT TO AN AUCTION WEBSITE CALLED AN AD EXCHANGE.

THE LATEST INFORMATION THEY'VE ACCUMULATED ON YOU, THEY LITERALLY RUN AN AUCTION FOR EVERY AD SPACE ON YOUR PAGE.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT DO? IT, IT SAYS OUT TO THE ADVERTISERS, HEY GUYS, HERE'S THIS PERSON.

HE'S IN THE MARKET FOR A CAR.

HE RECENTLY GOOGLED VACATION, UH, TRIPS.

HIS KIDS NEED FINANCIAL AID.

HE IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

THEY HAVE YOUR LOCATION.

GO AHEAD.

ADVERTISERS BID FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AN AD TO 'EM.

AND THIS IS DONE AUTOMATICALLY AND IN THE SMALL FRACTION OF THE SECOND.

SO, LO AND BEHOLD, UP POPS AN ADVERTISEMENT ABOUT CARNIVAL CRUISES.

JUST WHEN YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT GOING ON A TRIP, UH, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF THESE AD AUCTION EXCHANGES OUT THERE, AND THE TECHNOLOGY AS A WHOLE IS KNOWN AS AD TECH.

IT, IT'S JUST ASTOUNDING, INVISIBLE, AND HUGE.

SO BACK TO YOUR CAR, IF YOUR CAR IS LESS THAN 15 YEARS OLD, IT HAS A GPS AND IT'S LIKELY BROADCASTING WHERE YOU DRIVE.

AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN OFF YOUR CAR, YOUR TIRES ON YOUR CAR.

I LOVE THIS.

IF YOU'VE EVER WONDERED, HOW DOES YOUR CAR KNOW THAT THE TIRE HAS LOW PRESSURE? IT'S BECAUSE A TIRE IS TELLING IT VIA A LITTLE SENSOR THAT BROADCASTS TO THE DASHBOARD.

UM, LOW PRESSURE.

IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT DEVICE, YOU CAN READ THAT FROM THE STREET.

SO IF YOU CAN ASSOCIATE THAT TIRE WITH A CAR, YOU CAN TELL WHEN SOMEBODY HAS CROSSED YOUR PATH.

AND, UH, SAME WITH YOUR EPASS.

IT'S READ FREQUENTLY AND NOT JUST ON THE HIGHWAYS.

IF YOU PASS A POLICE CAR, ODDS ARE DECENT, YOUR LICENSE PLATE HAS BEEN RED.

UM, MANY HASTINGS POLICE CARS, UH, HAVE THESE SCANNERS.

THERE ARE SCANNERS ON TELEPHONE POLES, INCLUDING HERE IN HASTINGS.

AND IN SOME STATES THERE ARE CAMERAS HIDDEN IN TRAFFIC CONES AND ON STOPLIGHTS, ALL CAPTURING THAT YOUR CAR PASSED AT A GIVEN MOMENT AT A GIVEN TIME.

YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA, FORGET ABOUT IT.

WE ALL KNOW THAT INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK AND FACEBOOK AND ALL OF THEM ARE TRACKING EVERYTHING YOU DO, WHAT YOU LOOK AT HOW LONG SUGGESTING WHAT YOU SHOULD LOOK AT BASED ON A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR INTERESTS AND SERVING UP MORE OF THIS SO YOU CAN KEEP ON LOOKING AND COMING BACK FOR MORE.

A COUPLE YEARS AGO I DOWNLOADED TIKTOK, AND AFTER MAYBE TWO WEEKS OF USING IT WAY TOO MUCH, A TIKTOK VIDEO POPPED UP AND THERE WAS THIS ATTRACTIVE WOMAN IN HER FORTIES.

AND SHE POINTS, IF YOU'RE A GUY IN YOUR FIFTIES, CHECK A DEMOCRAT LIKES TO TRAVEL, ENJOYS BOOKS AND MOVIES, SUBSCRIBE HERE.

AND SHE POINTS DOWN TO SUBSCRIBE BUTTON.

SHE, I HAD NEVER SENT ANY OF THAT TO TIKTOK, BUT I HAD FIGURED THIS STUFF OUT FROM THE VIDEOS I HAD LOOKED AT.

UM, I, I DELETED THE APP THAT DAY.

I WAS LIKE, NOPE.

UH, TIKTOK COLLECT COLLECTS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT AMERICANS.

AND THERE'S A REASON WHY AT ONE POINT CONGRESS WANTED TO MAKE IT LEGAL.

EVERYTHING YOU SHARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS FIRST AND FOREMOST MARKETING FODDER FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE GIVING YOU THESE DEVICES FOR FREE.

THEY'RE NOT, UM, AGGREGATED TOGETHER.

THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU THAN YOU DO, HOW LIKELY YOU ARE TO BUY A TOYOTA VERSUS FORD, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING ON VACATION, WHETHER YOU BUY INSURANCE FOR YOUR DOG, IF YOU HAVE SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, ALL OF IT.

AND WE'VE MADE IT EASY FOR THEM BY SHARING OUR DATA WITH A THOUSAND POINTS OF CONTACT WITH FIRMS OUT THERE.

SO HOW DO WE GET HERE? IT'S A WORLD THAT WOULD SHAME BIG BROTHER.

IT CREPT UP ON US.

AND THEN OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, RACED TO THE CURRENT STATE.

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WHEN YOU LAYER ON WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH AI, IT FEELS OUTTA CONTROL.

SINCE 1995, THERE WERE FOUR MAJOR TRENDS THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING.

FIRST, IN THE MID NINETIES, THERE WAS A RAPID ADOPTION OF THE WEB AND THE CAPTURE OF MARKETING DATA THERE.

SECOND WAS NINE 11.

THIRD WAS A SPREAD OF SMARTPHONES AND AD TECH.

AND THEN FINALLY THE FOURTH WAS THE ENORMOUS GROWTH IN LOCATIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE NOW HAVE.

DATA BROKERS DEAL IN THIS STUFF, AND THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

THEY EVOLVED OUTTA THE CREDIT REPORTING COMPANIES IN THE SIXTIES.

THERE WERE MAILING LIST COMPANIES IN THE EIGHTIES AND SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.

BUT THEN ALONG CAM, THE INTERNET DATA STORAGE GOT CHEAP AND COMPUTERS GOT CHEAP, AND THIS INDUSTRY JUST EXPLODED.

THEY COULD NOW GATHER, ANALYZE, AND SELL HUGE AMOUNTS OF THIS INFORMATION.

UM, NINE 11 HAPPENED AND SURVEILLANCE BECAME CENTRAL TO THE PREVENTION OF ANOTHER ATTACK.

AND THE GOVERNMENT FOUND THAT CORPORATE AMERICA WAS EAGER TO HELP.

AS WE FOUND OUT AFTER THE ATTACK, THERE WAS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE HIJACKERS, THOUSANDS OF DISCREET BITS OF INFORMATION THAT SIMPLY HAD NOT BEEN KNIT TOGETHER.

SOME OF THE LARGEST DATA BROKERS OUT THERE, PRIVATE COMPANIES LIKE AXIOM, JUMPED ON BOARD TO HELP THE GOVERNMENT GATHER AND CORRELATE THIS DATA.

PATRIOT ACT PROGRAMS LIKE TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS, WHAT A GREAT NAME THAT'S A DYSTOPIAN, WE'RE KICKED OFF TO BEGIN CORRELATING THIS INFORMATION.

AND IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO TARGET AMERICANS, BUT IT DID.

ED SNOWDEN REMEMBER HIM, HE HAPPENED.

AND AS A RESULT, WE OUTLAWED SOME OF THESE EXCESSES AND SLOWED THE GOVERNMENT DOWN.

BUT THINGS JUST PICKED UP LATER.

THERE'S A ENORMOUS LOOPHOLE IN THE FOURTH AMENDMENT AND IN OUR LAWS KNOWN AS A THIRD PARTY DOCTRINE.

AND BASICALLY IT SAYS, IF YOUR INFORMATION IS BEEN COLLECTED LEGALLY BY SOMEONE, THE COOKIES YOU ARE IGNORING, A DATA BROKER, A MARKETING FIRM, YOUR PHONE COMPANY, THE GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE IT AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A WARRANT.

SO THIS BODY OF INFORMATION BECAME AVAILABLE TO THE GOVERNMENT.

MEANWHILE, THERE WAS A HUGE REVOLUTION IN INTERNET TECHNOLOGY, THE RISE OF ADVERTISING TECHNOLOGY, THE AD TECH I MENTIONED, UH, DATA BROKERS WERE NOW AGGREGATING IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF DATA.

AXION THE NAME THAT COMES UP A LOT, THEY HAVE DATA ON 2.5 BILLION PEOPLE.

THERE'S LIKE 260 MILLION ADULTS IN AMERICA.

SO IT'S CLEARLY A GOOD DEAL OF THE WORLD.

ORACLE HAS IT ON 2 BILLION TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FIRMS COLLECT THIS DATA ON YOU SELL IT OR TRADE IT TO EACH OTHER.

FOR MOST OF IT, YOU EITHER OPTED IN BY ACCEPTING THOSE COOKIES THAT SHOW UP ON THE BANNER WHEN THOSE BANNERS SHOW UP ASKING YOU TO DO SO.

AND YOU DIDN'T EVER READ A PRIVACY POLICY FOR AN APP YOU DOWNLOADED, AND WHO DOES.

BUT YOUR CONSENT WAS ASSUMED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH TO SHUT OFF TRACKING THAT YOU MAYBE HAD AN OPTION TO DO.

SO UNWITTINGLY, WE'VE ALL ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN.

THE FINAL PHASE OF THIS REVOLUTION WAS WITH THE RISE OF LOCATIONAL INFORMATION DRAWN LARGELY FROM YOUR PHONES.

NOW THAT THEY ALL HAVE GPS AND WIFI, IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE DATA SERVED UP FOR THESE AD AUCTIONS AND THE COMPANIES BUYING THOSE ADS WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AND, UH, IF THEY SHOULD BID ON ADS, UH, FOR YOU AND MANY OF THE APPS ON YOUR PHONE, TRACK THIS DATA AND SHARE IT WITH DATA BROKERS.

A FEW YEARS AGO, A FIRM WITH CONNECTIONS TO THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES SNUCK A BIT OF CODE INTO AN APP USED AT THAT TIME BY A HUNDRED MILLION MUSLIMS. THEY USED IT TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY TO TURN TO PRAY FIVE TIMES A DAY, TO MECCA.

THIS BIT OF CODE REPORTED THEIR GEOGRAPHIC POSITION FIVE TIMES A DAY BACK TO A SERVER IN THE US AND IT UPLOADED CONTENT FROM THE PHONE, LIKE CONTACT LISTS.

SO WITH THAT INFORMATION, YOU CAN RECONSTRUCT AN INDIVIDUAL'S HOME WHERE THEY WORK, THE NETWORK OF PEOPLE THEY DEAL WITH CLEVER, BUT JUST OBSCENE INTRUSION.

THIS LOCATIONAL INFORMATION, IT'S

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ACTUALLY THE MOST VALUABLE.

YOU KNOW, ONE EXPERT PUTS IT, YOU ARE WHERE YOU TRAVEL.

YOU WANT THE CELL PHONE NUMBERS OF EVERYONE WHO VISITED THE PALISADES MALL IN THE LAST MONTH.

YOU CAN BUY THAT.

THAT'S CALLED GEOFENCING.

DEFINE THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

AND THERE'S BROKERS WHO'VE COLLECTED THAT INFORMATION AND CAN PROVIDE IT HERE.

IT'S HUGELY PROBLEMATIC.

IT COULD BE UNLEASHED IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FOR ONE SECOND.

GIVE ME EVERYTHING IN THIS SQUARE BLOCK AROUND AN ABORTION CLINIC, AND THEN SHOW ME WHERE THOSE PEOPLE GO AFTER THE ABORTION BACK HOME.

MOST OF THE LOCATIONAL DATA IS DERIVED FROM AD TECH, AND IT'S SO PRECISE.

THIS IS HARD TO BELIEVE.

WHEN YOU PUT YOUR PHONE BY YOUR BEDSIDE, IT CAN ACTUALLY TELL YOU WHICH SIDE OF THE BED YOU'RE SLEEPING ON.

IT'S THAT PRECISE.

I MEAN, GPS IS INCREDIBLE.

THE RICHNESS OF THESE MARKETING PROBES BECAME APPARENT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AFTER NINE 11.

IT KIND OF BLEW THEIR MINDS THAT IT WAS OUT THERE.

AND THEN TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND 2014, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THIS DATA IS OPEN SOURCE, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, NOT GATHERED BY SPIES, INFORMANTS, OR WIRETAPS.

UM, IT'S LEGAL AND IT CAN BE USED FOR WHAT IS CALLED PATTERN OF LIFE ANALYSIS.

YOU CAN TELL WHERE PEOPLE ARE, WHERE THEY GO, WHO THEY CALL, AND LINK THAT TOGETHER.

AND IN ONE INTERESTING EXAMPLE, THERE WAS THIS WOMAN WHO WAS CHATTING HEAVILY ON TWITTER JUST, AND SHE HAD AN ANONYMOUS HANDLE THAT SHE THOUGHT PROTECTED HER.

BUT THE TWITTER SETTING INCLUDED GPS COORDINATES ON HER TWEETS.

SO YOU COULD TELL WHERE SHE WAS GOING BETWEEN THAT.

BRETT CRUMBS WOULD TELL YOU AT NIGHT, SHE'S HERE, DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO FIND OUT WHERE SHE LIVES.

AND DURING THE DAY SHE'S HERE, SHE TALKED ABOUT HER SEX LIFE.

SHE TALKED ABOUT ROMANCE, ABOUT HER FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES.

SHE WORKED FOR THE CIA NOT NOT GOOD .

THAT THAT LOCATIONAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN USED TO IDENTIFY SECRET MILITARY BASES IN THE MIDEA BECAUSE SOLDIERS CARRY THEIR PHONES WITH THEM AND WILL USE APPS LIKE TRACKING THEIR JOGGING HABITS THAT REPORT UP.

YOU CAN BUY THAT INFORMATION AND THERE YOU GO.

UM, HUNDREDS OF ISIS AND AL-QAEDA MEMBERS WERE TRACKED DOWN AND KILLED BECAUSE THEY USED SOCIAL MEDIA SO MUCH AND MUCH OF IT WAS GEOTAGGED.

MORE RECENTLY, THE UKRAINIANS AND RUSSIANS HAVE LAUNCHED MISSILES AT LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED AS HAVING MANY SOLDIERS BECAUSE THEY CARRY THEIR PHONES ON THEM INTO THE BATTLEFIELD.

SO AFTER 2014, THE POLICE BEGAN TO USE THIS DATA.

UH, IT WAS A GOLD MINE FOR THEM BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REQUIRE A WARRANT.

IT ESCALATED UNDER THE BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS.

AND IT'S ALSO BEEN USED BY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.

YOU KNOW, 2021, WE HAD THESE SEDITION HUNTERS, PRIVATE PEOPLE WHO BANDED TOGETHER AND USED THIS STUFF ON THE INTERNET TO IDENTIFY PROTESTORS AT THE JANUARY 6TH RIOT AND SERVE THOSE UP TO TO THE FBI AND THE FBI WENT ON TO USE A FIRM CALLED BAVEL STREET TO DO THIS HUNT AS WELL.

AND IT WAS LEGAL BECAUSE THE RIOTERS HAD POSTED MOST OF IT ALREADY ON THE INTERNET.

NOW THAT I'VE SPOOKED YOU, IT SEEMS AS GOOD A MOMENT AS ANY NEED TO SEGUE TO THE IMPACT OF AI ON PRIVACY AND YIELD.

IT'S USEFUL TO FIRST UNDERSTAND A LITTLE ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY.

IT SEEMS COMPLETELY MAGICAL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GUYS HAVE USED IT, BUT IT'S AMAZING.

I THERE INCREDIBLY ABSURDLY COMPLEX MATHEMATICAL MODELS.

THESE AIS TRAINED ON ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF DATA, MOSTLY TEXT.

LITERALLY MUCH OF THE VISIBLE INTERNET HAS FED THE TRAINING OF ONE AI OR ANOTHER DURING THIS TRAINING.

THEY DON'T STORE ALL THESE.

NO, NO SYSTEM IS BIG ENOUGH.

YOU'RE ACTUALLY CALCULATING.

AND, AND THIS SOUNDS SO SIMPLE, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WORDS, THE ASSOCIATIONS BETWEEN WORDS, AND DO THAT ON ALL THE WORDS ON THE INTERNET, ADD TRANSFORMATIONAL LAYERS ON TOP

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OF THAT.

AND YOU CAN FAIRLY ACCURATELY PREDICT WHAT THE LIKELINESS IS OF ONE WORD FOLLOWING ANOTHER BASED ON PREVIOUS WORDS AND COME UP WITH SENTENCES AND WITH ANOTHER TRANSFORMATION COME UP WITH PARAGRAPHS AND COMPLICATED, FULL BLOWN ANSWERS.

MAGIC.

I MEAN, I, I, I THOUGHT I ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THE TECHNOLOGY.

I MANAGED THIS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.

I HAVE READ THESE DESCRIPTIONS OVER AND OVER.

I JUST CAN'T, CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.

BUTIS DON'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED ON.

THEY, THEY JUST REMEMBER THESE COMPLEX RELATIONSHIPS AMONG ALL THESE WORDS.

AND TRAINING IS AN INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE AND INTENSIVE ORDEAL.

HUGE DATA CENTER CENTERS THAT YOU HEAR ARE BEING BUILT EVERYWHERE.

THEY CHUNK AWAY FOR DAYS TO COME UP WITH THESE MODELS.

IT'S JUST AMAZING.

AND, UH, EVEN YOUR REQUEST TE CHAT, GBT TAKES CAN TAKE HUNDREDS OF PROCESSORS POKING AT THIS MODEL IN, IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS AND THEN GATHERING DATA TO ANSWER.

UH, IT'S LITERALLY BURNS CAN BURN DOLLARS OF ELECTRICITY.

JUST ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, IT'S CRAZY.

UM, MOST AIS IS CRAZY A LOT.

MOST AIS YOU DEAL WITH ALSO HAVE A MECHANISM CALLED RETRIEVAL, AUGMENTED GENERATION RAG.

AND THIS MEANS THAT THIS LANGUAGE MODEL, THIS AI, CAN NOW REACH OUT TO EXTERNALLY INDEXED INFORMATION AND PULL IT TOGETHER AND BRING IT IN AND IT PROVIDES MORE ACCURATE ANSWERS.

AND IF YOU'VE BEEN USING CHAT GBT OR CLAUDE OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOTICING THAT NOW THE ANSWERS ARE FOOTNOTED BECAUSE THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO THESE VARIOUS SITES AND PROVING THAT BY THE FOOTNOTES, WHICH WAS AN ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM THEY HAD WITH HALLUCINATIONS, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF.

THEY'RE COMING UP WITH ANSWERS.

THEY DON'T DO THAT AS MUCH ANYMORE.

AND IT'S THIS CORRELATION OF DATA THAT'S THE BIGGEST STRENGTH AND RISK TO PRIVATE INFORMATION.

THEY MAKE THESE COLLECT CONNECTIONS.

THEY CAN DEVELOP REMARKABLE PROFILES.

UH, A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY CAN POINT A MODEL AT THEIR INTERNAL TESTS AND STUDIES, AND IT MIGHT COME UP WITH AN INSIGHT FROM ALL OF THAT.

A GOVERNMENT CAN USE IT TO COME UP WITH PROFILES ON A SUSPECTED TERRORIST AT A LEVEL OF DETAIL, WAY BEYOND WHAT IS PREVIOUSLY POSSIBLE WAR ON DISSIDENT POLITICAL THOUGHT.

THEY CAN AND HAVE IDENTIFIED NEIGHBORHOODS LIKELY TO HAVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OR IN WAR HAVE BEEN USED IN UKRAINE AND GAZA TO IDENTIFY TARGETS.

THE SINGLE BIGGEST IMPACT OF AI ALREADY HAS BEEN THE IMPROVEMENT OF SURVEILLANCE.

FACIAL RECOGNITION AND MONITORING TECHNOLOGIES ARE LEADS BEYOND WHERE THEY WERE FIVE YEARS AGO.

BACK IN WORLD WAR II, THERE WERE THESE NAVAJO NATIVE AMERICANS WERE CALLED CODE TALKERS.

AND THEY SPOKE OPENLY ON THE RADIO IN FULL CONFIDENCE THAT THE JAPANESE WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS BEING SAID.

CHACHI BT NOW SPEAKS FLUENT NAVAJO IN REAL TIME, AS WELL AS JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER MAJOR SPOKEN LANGUAGE.

AND IT CAN SUMMARIZE WHAT IS LISTENING TO IN ENGLISH FOR YOU TO REVIEW.

THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT.

ALL OF THIS IS A LITTLE UNNERVING.

SO YOU'D THINK THAT OUR DESIRE TO BE LEFT ALONE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, WOULD MEAN THAT THERE'D BE SCORES OF LAWS OUT THERE TO PROTECT US.

AND WHILE THERE ARE SEVERAL, THEY'RE REALLY PRETTY LIMITED HERE IN THE US, BETTER IN EUROPE, AND A HODGEPODGE THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE OR SECRET DRESS.

I COULD SPEND AN HOUR ON THAT ALONE.

AND WHILE IT WAS ADVERTISED IN THE AD THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IT, I'M NOT, IT'S JUST THAT'S A RABBIT HOLE THAT MERITS ANOTHER HOUR.

WHAT I'D RATHER DO IS ACTUALLY SPEND THE REMAINING TIME I HAVE HERE.

I JUST TOUCHED MY TRACKER, UM, TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO TO PRESERVE YOUR PRIVACY.

NOW, UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO DEDICATE WAY TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME AND ENERGY, YOU'LL NEVER FULLY STOP THE HEMORRHAGE OF INFORMATION.

IT'S JUST, IT REQUIRES A TIGHTLY FITTED TINFOIL CAP.

AND IF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT OR A BAD INTELLIGENCE ACTOR DETERMINES THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY OR OF INTEREST,

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YOUR MOST COMMITTED EFFORTS WILL LIKELY FALL SHORT.

I MEAN, THEY CAN, AFTER ALL, TURN THE MICROPHONE ON IN YOUR TELEPHONE OR YOUR SMART DEVICE, LISTEN IN ON YOU, TAKE PICTURES OF YOU AND FIND OUT WHERE YOU ARE WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

AND THAT'S JUST A WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT YOU CAN DO.

HERE'S A MOMENT OF HOPE.

I'M GONNA COVER THREE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN TAKE ACTION THAT WILL PRESERVE YOUR PRIVACY FROM MARKETERS, FROM SCAMMERS AND FROM HOSTILE GOVERNMENTS.

THERE'S A SHEET FOR EACH ONE OF THESE THAT I PUT OUT THERE.

AND SO NO NOTES ARE NECESSARY.

I GO INTO DETAIL ON EACH ONE OF THESE AND, UH, YOU CAN TAKE IT HOME.

AND THAT'S YOUR HOMEWORK, PLEASE, , PLEASE.

UH, IF YOU WANNA GO FURTHER THAN THE TWO IDEAS I'M GONNA MENTION IN EACH OF THESE AREAS, UH, THE HANDOUTS DESCRIBE SOME OF THE MORE INTENSIVE ONES.

ADDING EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF FRICTION LOWERS THE CHANCE THAT YOU'RE GONNA LOSE PERSONAL INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT'LL STOP, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SLOW IT DOWN.

SO LET'S START WITH MARKETERS.

UH, FIRST TO LESSEN THE INFLOW OF MARKETING TO YOU, I AM GIVING YOU THREE WEBSITES THAT ALLOW YOU TO OPT OUT ONLINE.

FROM MOST LEGITIMATE MARKETING CALLS TO YOUR PHONE, OPT OUT OF ALL PRE-SCREENED OFFERS OF CREDIT AND INSURANCE AND, AND SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THE JUNK MAIL AND EMAIL YOU RECEIVED.

THE WEBSITE NAMES ARE IN THE DOCUMENT IN THE BACK.

USE THEM.

IT WON'T TAKE YOU FIVE MINUTES FOR EACH ONE, AND IT WILL SUBSTANTIALLY LESSEN THE TARGETED JUNK YOU GET.

TWO ARE FREE AND ONE COST $6 FOR EVER.

SO SECONDLY, LET'S LOWER THE INFORMATION YOU SHARE WITH THE WORLD.

FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

THE SINGLE EASIEST STEP YOU CAN TAKE IS RESTRICTING AD TRACKING ON YOUR PHONE AND HOME COMPUTER ON YOUR PHONE AND BROWSERS.

YOU CAN GO TO YOUR SETTINGS, GO TO THE PRIVACY TAB AND TURN OFF AD TRACKING.

THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT.

IT'S LITERALLY LAID OUT FOR YOU.

NOBODY KNOWS TO DO THAT.

UM, AND, UH, YOU'RE INSTRUCTING APPLE, APPLE AND GOOGLE TO STOP TRACKING YOU.

AND THEY DO TURNING OFF OR RESETTING YOUR GOOGLE ADVERTISING.

ID AUTOMATICALLY DISRUPTS GOOGLE FROM BEING ABLE TO TRACK YOU ACROSS YOUR DEVICES IF YOU SHUT AD TRACKING OFF.

THESE ADS WON'T GO AWAY, BUT IT WILL NO LONGER BE SO SPECIFIC TO YOU.

IT WON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING ON A TRIP NEXT WEEK.

DO THE SAME THING IN AMAZON.

THERE'S AN ADVERTISING PREFERENCE PAGE THERE.

DELETE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM THEIR AD SYSTEM.

I MEAN, DO YOU REALLY NEED THEIR ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY? RESTRICT ACCESS TO YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION IN FACEBOOK AND OTHER SOCIAL APPS TO ONLY YOUR CLOSE FRIENDS.

TERRIBLE IDEA TO BROADCAST OUT TO THE WORLD.

AND FINALLY, WHENEVER A POPUP APPEARS ASKING YOU TO APPROVE COOKIES, JUST CHOOSE ONLY REQUIRED COOKIES.

DON'T LET THEM MARKET YOU.

THE RE REQUIRED COOKIES ARE BASICALLY CONTROLLING HOW THE SYSTEM IS WORKING WITH YOUR SCREEN.

IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TRACKING ANY MARKING INFORMATION ON YOU, JUST DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM.

THESE ACTIONS ARE NOT GONNA ELIMINATE TARGETED ADS RIGHT AWAY, BUT YOU SHOULD NOTICE A VISIBLE DIFFERENCE IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

AND THIS DATA ALSO FEEDS SCAMMERS AND THE GOVERNMENT.

SO YOU'RE KIND OF LIMITING IT AT THE SOURCE.

THIS APPLIES ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO SPEAKING OF SCAMMERS, I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO DETECT THE BROAD RANGE OF SCAMS OUT THERE.

WE ALL HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THAT AND THAT COULD EASILY TAKE A FULL HOUR.

I'M JUST GONNA FOCUS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO TO MINIMIZE THE INFORMATION THAT SCAMMERS CAN GET ON YOU.

AND THE FIRST THING YOU NEED TO DO IS WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU NEED TO DO.

IF YOU'RE USING THE SAME PASSWORD ACROSS MULTIPLE SITES, STOP IT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THIS IS A BIG JOB.

SO JUST START WITH YOUR FINANCIALLY RELATED SITES AND APPS.

JUST THOSE MAKE UP A UNIQUE PASSWORD FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY ACTIVATED TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION, DO IT.

CHECK ALL OF THEM, YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, CREDIT CARDS, SCHWAB, VENMO, PAYPAL.

JUST MAKE THEM UNIQUE.

IT'S A BIT OF A PAIN, BUT YOU REALLY WANT YOUR FINANCIAL SITES TO GET HACKED.

QUICK STORY.

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I USE A PASSWORD MANAGER BECAUSE LONG AGO I GAVE UP KEEPING MY PASSWORD.

STRAIGHTS AND PASSWORD MANAGERS ARE APPS THAT LIVE ON YOUR PHONE.

I RECOMMEND A COUPLE AND THEY'LL FILL IN THE PASSWORD, UH, SCREEN FOR YOU AND KEEP THEM ALL STRAIGHT.

AND I HAVE USERNAMES AND PASSWORDS FOR OVER 340 SITES IN THERE.

THE PASSWORD MANAGER TOLD ME THAT I USE THE SAME THREE OR FOUR PASSWORDS FOR ABOUT 230 OF THOSE SITES.

I ROLLED MY EYES AND IGNORED IT EVEN THOUGH I KNEW FOR A FACT THAT ONE OF THOSE PASSWORDS HAD BEEN LEAKED FROM AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE SITES.

AND YOU TOO CAN FIND OUT IF YOUR PASSWORDS HAVE BEEN LEAKED BY GOING TO THE ABSURDLY NAMED, HAVE I BEEN PED? AND IT'S ON THE SHEET.

UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, SOMEONE USED THAT LEAK PASSWORD, UH, TO SUCCESSFULLY LOG ONTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT AND SENT OUT A FAKE INVITE TO A PARTY TO THE EMAIL ADDRESSES OF EVERYONE IN MY ADDRESS BOOK.

SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN THAT .

SORRY, PUNCHLINE.

I HAD THE SAME PASSWORD IN MY EMAIL FOR 14 YEARS AND I HADN'T BOTHERED TO CHANGE IT.

SO DON'T BE ME, YOU KNOW, CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS.

UM, I, I PANICKED WHEN I FOUND OUT AND THAT I HAD BEEN HACKED AND CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THAT PASSWORD WASN'T IN USE OF ON ANY OF MY FINANCIAL SITES.

AND IT WASN'T.

THANK GOD.

SECOND USEFUL THING YOU SHOULD DO IS GET IN THE HABIT OF PRACTICING DATA MINIMIZATION.

VERY FANCY TERM FOR POSTING AND SHARING AS LITTLE ABOUT YOURSELF AS YOU CAN, AS YOU CAN STAND AND MINIMIZING WHO CAN SEE IT? ONLY FILL IN THE REQUIRED FIELDS ON ANY FORM YOU HAVE TO FILL IN.

DON'T JUST HAND THEM YOUR PHONE NUMBER IF YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR IT.

DON'T, DON'T FILL IN THAT, THAT THING YOUR BIRTHDATE.

DON'T GIVE IT OUT.

DON'T POST YOUR VACATION PLANS ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE, OBVIOUSLY YOUR FULL SECURITY, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

NO, DON'T KEEP THOSE SILLY LITTLE QUIZZES THAT POP UP ON THE INTERNET.

UM, ALL THEY'RE DOING IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT YOU NOW.

AND WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF OVERSHARING.

SO JUST TRY TO RESIST.

SO FINALLY, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOSTILE GOVERNMENTS.

I'M GONNA REPEAT WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

ANY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT WANTS TO COME AFTER YOU, SPECIFICALLY YOU, THEY'VE GOT RESOURCES YOU CAN'T FIGHT AND YOU CAN SHRUG AND, YOU KNOW, USING A QUOTE FROM STALINIST TIMES.

THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

HOWEVER, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT YOUR DAUGHTER'S VISIT TO AN ABORTION CLINIC TO GET TRACKED OR YOUR INTEREST IN UKRAINE TO SURFACE WHEN YOU ARE IN A CRUISE THAT STOPS AT ST.

PETERSBURG.

OR YOUR CRITICAL COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT SHOWING UP ACCUSTOMED WHEN YOU'RE COMING BACK INTO THIS COUNTRY THAT WAS SOMETHING FROM TODAY.

OR YOUR ATTENDANCE AT AN ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTEST TO BE LOGGED.

I CAN COME UP WITH A DOZEN MORE EXAMPLES IF I THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

AND SO COULD YOU.

IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

AND WHY MAKE IT EASY BY PRESENTING YOUR DATA ON A SILVER PLATTER? A NUMBER OF THE THINGS I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED ARE GONNA SLOW THEM DOWN, THEM DOWN.

I DON'T WANNA SOUND LIKE A NUT.

STRONG PASSWORDS.

TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION.

MINIMIZING YOUR DATA.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU BE AFRAID.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS AND SHOULD FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

OBVIOUSLY.

HOWEVER, YOU ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP WHAT YOU WANT.

PRIVATE.

PRIVATE.

AND THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.

SO MY USUAL TWO SUGGESTIONS HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, YOUR GOOGLE SEARCHES THINGS DECIDE THAT YOU DECIDE TO ASK CHAT.

GBT GEMINI COPILOT YOUR WEBPAGES.

IT'S ALL TRACKED.

FULL STOP PERIOD.

ALL OF IT.

DOWNLOAD AND USE THE DUCKDUCKGO BROWSER INSTEAD OF EDGE OR SAFARI.

IT'S A SILLY PRODUCT NAME, BUT IT'S VERY PRIVACY PROTECTIVE DUCK DUCK GO PUTS ITSELF BETWEEN YOU AND GOOGLE CHAT GBT WITH THE WEBSITES ANONYMIZING YOU.

SO IF YOU WANT TO ASK, HOW CAN I PROTECT MY PRIVACY FROM THE GOVERNMENT? DO IT IN DUCK, DUCK, GO.

SECONDLY, AS MENTIONED, PHONE, FITBIT, ALL THE THINGS THEY TRACK YOU FOR YOUR PHONE.

YOU'VE GIVEN APPS PERMISSION, WHETHER YOU

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KNOW IT OR NOT, TO ACCESS THE GPS, THE MIC AND THE CAMERA GO INTO SETTINGS AND THEN PERMISSIONS.

TURN IT ALL OFF.

JUST TURN IT ALL OFF.

IT'S GONNA FORCE YOUR PHONE TO ASK YOU WHENEVER IT WANTS TO USE YOUR CAMERA OR PHONE OR, OR MICROPHONE OR WHATEVER.

IT'S A PAIN.

YOU HAVE TO DO IT EACH TIME.

SET IT TO ASK TO EACH TIME.

BUT IT MEANS THAT APP ISN'T USING THOSE VARIOUS, UM, FACILITIES TO GATHER INFORMATION ABOUT YOU WHEN YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

YES, IT'S GONNA BE A PAIN, BUT IT'S, I I THINK IT'S WORTH IT.

IF YOU'RE GOING SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU EVEN PASSINGLY THINK SHOULDN'T BE SHARED KNOWLEDGE.

TURN OFF YOUR PHONE AND LEAVE THE TRACKERS AT HOME.

AND IF YOU CAN GO BY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT YOU NOT MAKE IT EASY FOR THE OTHER GUYS TO COLLECT INFORMATION ON YOU.

THIS IS NOT BEING PARANOID.

AS CRAZY AS IT SOUNDS, LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT USING A TECHNOLOGY KNOWN AS A STINGRAY AT PROTESTS TO COLLECT THE CELL PHONE NUMBERS OF EVERYONE THERE.

THEY'VE ALSO USED WARRANTS TO COLLECT GEOFENCE DATA OF EVERYONE AT A GIVEN SITE.

WHY? JUST GIVE THEM THAT YOU ARE ENTIRELY IN YOUR RIGHT TO BE PROTESTING, BUT YOU ARE ALSO IN YOUR RIGHT TO BE PROTECTIVE OF YOUR PRIVACY.

SO BE PRIVATE.

I ALSO HAVE A HANDOUT DEDICATED TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ATTEND PROTESTS AND WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN YOUR PRIVACY.

THAT'S PART OF THE PACKET.

QUICK WORD.

APPLE IS ACTUALLY PRETTY SOLID NOW IN SECURITY.

UH, IMESSAGE IS SECURE.

THE DATA ON AN IPHONE IS ENCRYPTED.

UH, THEY FOUND RELIGION AFTER SOME EMBARRASSMENTS.

UM, AND UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD ANDROID LESS SO.

UM, IT'S BEEN DESIGNED PRETTY MUCH BOTTOM UP TO COLLECT MARKETING INFORMATION ON YOU.

UH, BUT YOU CAN STILL TAKE ACTION AND THE SHEETS AND OVER THERE WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.

EVERYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE SO FAR APPLIES TO PRESERVING YOUR PRIVACY IN THE WORLD OF AI.

THE LESS YOU PRESENT TO THE AI FOR CONSUMPTION BECAUSE YOU'VE MINIMIZED YOUR PRESENCE ON THE INTERNET, THE LESS OF YOU WILL BE OUT THERE IN THE AI.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

DO THE THINGS I'VE RECOMMENDED ABOVE, ESPECIALLY AROUND DATA MINI MINIMIZATION.

AND SO AT LEAST FOR NOW, YOU'LL BE SLOWING THEIS DOWN ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT YOU.

AND AS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

SO, UH, THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? RANDY? A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, I'M USING A NEWS HEADLINE SITE.

I FOUND A STORY THAT SAID THAT GOOGLE IN THEIR MOST RECENT UPDATE, UH, HAS CHANGED THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE.

UH, SO THE DEFAULT NOW IS THAT YOU ARE, IF YOU HAVE A GMAIL ACCOUNT, YOU ARE OPTED IN TO ALLOWING ALL OF YOUR EMAILS AND EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT BE ATTACHED TO YOUR EMAILS AS USED FOR TRAINING FOR THEIR AI MODEL.

MM-HMM .

SO THIS IS YOUR AUTOMATIC OPT-IN.

MM-HMM .

AND, AND THE THE, THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES EVERY TIME SOMETHING GETS UPDATED, DO YOU HAVE TO START GOING THROUGH ALL OF YOUR SETTINGS? BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I I, MY BROWSER OF CHOICE ONLINE IS FIREBOX, WHICH IS QUITE PRIVACY SECURE.

RIGHT? BUT I HAVE TO SAY, AND I, I'M, I'M CRAZY ENOUGH THAT I ACTUALLY LOG EVERY TIME IT DOES AN UPDATE.

'CAUSE IF ONE OF MY SITES GOES CRAZY, I CAN GO, OH, IT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER THIS UPDATE.

SO I, YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE FACT IT MIGHT BE A FIREFOX PROBLEM.

BUT THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THEY UPDATE IT LIKE EVERY 10 DAYS.

THEY, THEY'RE PUSHING OUT UPDATES CONSTANTLY.

NOW, I DON'T USE GOOGLE, SO I DON'T USE RATHER CHROME, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY ALL ARE UPDATING CONSTANTLY.

UM, WHAT? YOU KNOW.

SO WHAT'S THE, OKAY.

UM, BIG CHALLENGE

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, UM, FOR YOUR BROWSERS.

USE DUCK DUCKDUCKGO.

USE THE DUCKDUCKGO SEARCH INSTEAD OF GOOGLE SEARCH.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN EMAIL THAT HANDLES ANYTHING YOU WANT PRIVATE, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF EXCELLENT ONES OUT THERE IN THE HANDOUT.

, ONE OF THE BEST IS PROTON MAIL.

IT'S BASED OUT OF SWITZERLAND AND A HUNDRED PERCENT SECURE.

DO YOUR STUFF THERE.

UM, WHETHER YOU LOOK AT YOUR PREFERENCES TO SEE IF ANYTHING'S CHANGED EVERY SIX MONTHS OR NOT, MOST PEOPLE WILL NEVER DO THAT.

SHORT OF THAT, IT'S HARD TO CATCH THIS STUFF.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO CATCH THAT STUFF.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY OPTION YOU HAVE IS TO MOVE TO MORE SECURE PLATFORMS. AND THAT SOUNDS, AGAIN, KIN FOIL HAT STUFF, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH ABOUT GOOGLE.

ANY TRAINING ON EMAIL? GOOGLE DENIED THAT TWO FACTOR ORGANIZATION.

WOULD YOU SAY WORD ON PASS KEYS, EXCELLENT.

USE THEM.

IT WAS ONE BIT MORE OF INFORMATION THAT I CUT FROM MY PRESENTATION TO TRY TO GET IT UNDER 40 MINUTES.

BUT YES, PASS KEYS ARE A GOOD THING.

DO YOU WANT SAY ? UM, BECAUSE, UM, MANY SITES OFFER PAS KEYS, WHICH ARE EITHER BIOMETRIC, YOU KNOW, THUMBPRINT OR IN SOME CASES EVEN EYES.

I, YOU KNOW, IRISES, FACIAL RECOGNITION, UH, OR A SEQUENCE OF NUMBERS.

BUT THERE'S SPECIFIC TO, YOU CAN'T BE HACK.

EVERYTHING CAN BE HACKED, BUT IT'S HARD TO BE HACKED.

HARDER TO BE HACKED.

AND WHAT ABOUT ME MESSENGER? SOMETHING LIKE SIGNAL ANDROID.

SO, SO MESSENGER I MESSAGE IS PRETTY GOOD.

SIGNAL IS BETTER.

AND, UM, SIGNAL IS, UH, IF YOU WANNA BE SURE BETWEEN TWO POINTS THAT YOUR CHATS ARE SECURE USE SIGNAL.

UM, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WHATSAPP IS GOOD, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S AN OPTION IN WHATSAPP TO DELETE YOUR CHAT STREAM AFTER X NUMBER OF HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS, TURN IT ON.

SOMETIMES YOU'LL BE SORRY YOU FORGOT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE CHAT STREAM.

BUT IT'S ALSO NICE NOT TO CARRY BEHIND YOU A WHOLE TALE OF YOUR HISTORY.

SO GETTING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID, TASK.

SO THE PATIENT RECOGNITION TO TURN ON YOUR PHONE.

, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

.

SO , THERE'S SOME CASE LAW THAT AT THE BORDER, IF THEY CONFISCATE THEIR PHONE, YOUR PHONE, UH, AND, UM, THEY WANT OPEN IT, THEY CAN HOLD IT UP TO YOUR FACE AND IF IT OPENS THE PHONE, BINGO.

SO FACIAL RECOGNITION AND THUMBPRINTS AS A RESULT ARE NOT PREFERRED OVER A PASSWORD THAT YOU MEMORIZE.

AND THAT'S UNIQUE, UH, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET YOU TO SAY THAT PASSWORD.

SO IN A CHOICE BETWEEN A PASSWORD TO OPEN YOUR PHONE OR FACIAL RECOGNITION OR WHATEVER, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY, TURN OFF THE FACIAL AND THE IN GENERAL, GOOD.

IS IT BAD? NO.

AS LONG AS YOU REMEMBER TO TURN IT OFF.

IF YOU'RE CROSSING BORDERS.

SO IS IT SAFER? IT'S SAFE, JOE AND I HAVE NO, IT'S, IT'S SAFE.

I THINK IT'S SAFE.

IT'S SAFE.

IT'S SAFE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS GOOD.

OKAY.

SADLY.

WELL, SO CAT MODEL COMING.

WE WERE COMING FROM OVERSEAS AND GOING THROUGH CUSTOMS AND WE JUST TOOK A PICTURE OF OUR FACE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO STOP.

MM-HMM .

THAT'S GREAT.

SUPER CONVENIENT OUT.

SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS GOING ON? NO.

SO, UM, THE STORE OF PICTURES FROM THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN ARE PART OF WHAT'S DRIVING THE ICE PATH, YOU KNOW? UM, IT, IF YOU'RE CROSSING BORDERS, YOU CAN HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING AWAY FROM HAVING STUFF LIKE THAT TRAPPED.

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THEY SUPPOSEDLY GIVE YOU AN OUT, YOU CAN SUPPOSEDLY REFUSE, BUT NO.

AND THEY HAVE YOUR PASSPORT PHOTO ALREADY.

THEY'VE GOT YOUR PASSPORT PHOTO.

THEY'VE, YOU'VE SOMEWHERE BEEN PHOTOGRAPHED AND THEY'RE COMPARING IT AGAINST THAT.

IT'S AMAZING.

THIS IS WHERE AI HAS BECOME ASTOUNDING.

IT'S AMAZING THAT AN OLD PHOTO, UH, FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE CAN STILL BE MATCHED SUCCESSFULLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LET THROUGH.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BECAUSE I SAW, YOU KNOW, YOU, I DIDN'T STOP BECAUSE THIS WAS NEW TO US.

AND I SUPPOSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP MM-HMM .

PHOTO, BUT I, SO I LOOKED UP A BLUR AND STILL PERMITTED ME.

IT'S JUST STILL NOT AMAZING.

YEAH, IT'S AMAZING.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT MADE MY LIFE EASIER.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO TALK TO THE GUY.

YEAH.

IT, IT'S, IT'S, THE AI PATTERN MATCHING IS JUST AMAZING.

IT'S JUST AMAZING.

YOU KNOW, JIM, KNOWING WHAT WE NOW KNOW, DO HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS TO HOW WE CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT? ? YOU KNOW, ALL YOU CAN DO IS SLOW THIS STUFF DOWN.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS, IS SLOW THIS STUFF DOWN AS BEST AS YOU CAN, UM, ASK ME IN 10 YEARS.

BUT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN THROW SOME GRIT INTO THE GEARS BY DOING THE THINGS I'M RECOMMENDING.

THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

PLEASE, , DO THE LAWS IN SAY GERMANY THAT YOU DESCRIBED, SLOW THE STUFF DOWN.

UM, IN EUROPE IN GENERAL, UH, GERMANY, ICELAND, SWITZERLAND, THEY'VE GOT GREAT PRIVACY LAWS.

AND IT TAKES A WALL OF PAPERWORK TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE RESIDENT IN THOSE COUNTRIES.

UM, IT, IT'S MADE A DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, THE MARKETING STUFF, THE STUFF ON PHONES, AD TECH IS EVERYWHERE.

EVERY PHONE ON THE PLANET, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY USING AD ADVERTISEMENT TECHNOLOGY.

BUT SOME OF THE MORE INTRUSIVE STUFF ON PERSONAL INFORMATION IS SLOWED DOWN IN EUROPE.

THEY, THEY'VE GOTTA PRETTY SOLID PRIVACY REGIME.

YOU GONNA YEAH.

ONE LITTLE PIECE OF GRIT I SOMETIMES THOUGHT ABOUT USING IN THE DATA MINING IS TO ENTER ON GOOGLE SEARCH TERMS THAT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN.

COWBOY , COWBOY BOOTS, UH, TRIP TO OUTER MONGOLIA, UH, SERIAL KILLER TECHNIQUES, YOU KNOW, SCREW THEM UP.

YEP.

SO, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A THING.

UM, AND THERE'S A WHOLE, UM, IF YOU WORK AT THE FBI, YOU'RE TAUGHT THAT HOW YOU FILL IN ADDRESS FORMS, ET CETERA, GET A LETTER WRONG, THROW GRIT INTO THE DATA COLLECTION ON YOU.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO LINK THIS STUFF TOGETHER.

UH, JUST USE UCK, GO BACK THERE.

YOU, YOU COMMUNICATING HAS.

SO, UM, IF YOU USE PROTON MAIL, UM, YES, SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE NEEDS TO HAVE SECURE A SECURE EMAIL, UH, SERVICE.

HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU SIGN UP A PLACE LIKE PROTON MAIL, DON'T SAY JOHN SMITH AT PROTON MAIL.

'CAUSE COME ON, MAKE UP SOMETHING.

UH, AND THAT WAY YOU CAN SEND THE EMAIL TO SOMEBODY.

AND EVEN IF THEY'RE HACKED, AT LEAST IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFIABLE AS YOURS AND IT CAN'T BE TRACED BACK TO YOU.

'CAUSE PROTON MAIL WILL NEVER DIVULGE THEIR DATABASE OF EMAIL ADDRESSES.

SO AT LEAST ONE WAY THE COMMUNICATION IS SECURE.

BUT, UM, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGE WITH DEALING WITH PEOPLE WITH GMAIL ADDRESSES, ET CETERA.

AND THAT'S ALL I COULD RECOMMEND.

IF YOU'RE INTENT ON PRESERVING YOUR OWN PRIVACY, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD DO.

UM, JUST IN TERMS OF THINGS LIKE FACIAL RECOGNITION, UM, PRINT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU, YOU TO, YOU WANT THEM

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TO HAVE ACCESS TO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOU? THE ANSWER, I'M NOT SURE I GET THE QUESTION.

ASK ME AGAIN.

SO IF I WANT, IF I, UH, INITIATE RECOGNITION ON A OF THINGS AND ONLY MY CASE CAN ACCESS TO HOW DO I, HOW DO I PERMIT SOMEONE? BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO HAVE ACCESS.

USE A PASSWORD.

DON'T USE A PASSWORD.

YEAH.

IF YOU'RE GONNA SHARE DEVICES, USE A LONG PASSWORD AND DON'T SEND IT BY EMAIL.

.

UM, ONE OTHER THING, JUST QUESTION ABOUT, UH, COOKIES.

UM, SOME SITES SAY EVERY TIME I GO IN ON SOMETHING, THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING MM-HMM .

WHEN I WALK, UM, HERE, THERE'LL BE, UH, THEY OFTEN MAKE IT DIFFICULT MM-HMM .

AND, UH, YOU, THE, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN A HOLE.

YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN INTO THEIR PRIVACY POLICY AND FIND OUT HOW TO DO IT.

AND YES.

AND SO, UM, THE BROWSER KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE BY YOUR IP ADDRESS, BY THE ADDRESS ASSIGNED TO YOUR COMPUTER BY THE INTERNET.

AND THAT'S ROUGHLY GEOGRAPHIC.

SO IF YOUR IP ADDRESS IS IN CALIFORNIA, THE COOKIE NOTICE IS GONNA BE UPFRONT BECAUSE IT READS THAT YOU'RE IN CALIFORNIA, AND CALIFORNIA IS THE ONLY STATE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS A SOLID PRIVACY LAW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND IF YOU'RE COMING FROM A CALIFORNIA INTERNET ADDRESS, YOUR WEBSITES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN OPTION TO CLICK ON IT TO SAY, FORGET ABOUT ME, DON'T SHARE MY INFORMATION, ET CETERA OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA, NOT SO EASY.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THESE COOKIE MANAGERS DO THAT THESE WEBSITES USE IS THEY PRESENT IT TO YOU ONCE, THE FIRST TIME YOU USE YOUR SITE.

AND ASSUMING THAT YOU'VE ACCEPTED THE COOKIE, FULL COOKIE UNIVERSE THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT ON YOUR PHONE, THEY SAVE A COOKIE TO YOUR PHONE SAYING DON'T PRESENT THE COOKIE OPTION AGAIN TO THIS PERSON AND IT DOESN'T POP UP.

AGAIN.

A QUESTION ABOUT GOOGLE IS THAT, OKAY, SO TELL ME A BIT ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE YOU, YOU CAN GO INTO GOOGLE YEAH.

BOOST SEARCH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO, TO GIVE AN OPINION.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

GO AHEAD.

UM, I'M NOT VETTING FOR THIS RESPONSE, BUT I'LL WHAT THAT DOES IS NOT STORE ANY OF THE HISTORY OF, OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT BROWSER ON YOUR COMPUTER.

OKAY.

SO THAT SOMEBODY WHO, BEN COMES TO YOUR COMPUTER AND IS LOOKING AT YOUR HISTORY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

IT DOES NOT STOP GOOGLE, UH, FROM COLLECTING THE INFORMATION.

WELL, RANDY, THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S TRUE FOR INCOGNITO MODE ON ANY OF THE BROWSERS.

IT'S PREVENTING THE STORAGE OF COOKIES AND, UH, SEARCH ON, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR COMPUTER, WHICH IS GREAT IF YOU'RE A TEENAGER LOOKING AT PORN AND DON'T WANT YOUR PARENTS TO SEE YOU DOING THAT.

BUT THAT'S BUT NOT SO GOOD FOR MUCH ELSE.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL IT DOES.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T DO, UM, PETER IS THE, IS THE TERM OFF THE GRID LIKE ANACHRONISM NOW, IS THERE ANY WAY TO YES.

GET OFF THE GRID AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE TIME OR ENERGY TO DO THAT.

AND YOU'D HAVE TO IF YOU WENT ALL CASH, IF , IT'S, IT'S HARD.

UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN BOOKS THAT GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE AND IT'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF WORK.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS TO GETTING YOURSELF OFF THE DATA BROKER LISTS, SCRAPING FROM THE WORLD, EVERYTHING IT KNOWS ABOUT YOU.

UM, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, IT'S DOABLE.

BUT THAT'S JUST STEP ONE.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HARDCORE FANATICS GO TO THE POINT OF

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RE-REGISTERING YOUR HOUSE IN THE NAME OF THE CORPORATION, YOU KNOW, JUST ANONYMIZING YOU ENTIRELY FACING OUT TO THE WORLD.

BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC.

IN FRANCE, THEY HAVE THAT, UH, THE RIGHT TO BE FORGOTTEN.

SO THAT'S A-G-D-P-R, WHICH IS A LAW AND REGULATION PASSED IN EUROPE.

AND WHAT ALL IT MEANS IS YOU'VE GOT A RIGHT TO ASK THE COMPANY THAT KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU TO FORGET ABOUT YOU.

, THAT'S ALL IT MEANS.

IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE COMPANY YOU'VE GOTTA SUBMIT.

AND MY UNIT DEALT WITH, RIGHT? TO BE FORGOTTEN REQUESTS ALL THE TIME.

PEOPLE WOULD SAY, I THINK I HAD AN ACCOUNT WITH BANK OF NEW YORK, PLEASE DELETE IT.

AND ANY MARKETING INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

ENORMOUS PAIN IN THE ASS BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 14,000 DATABASES AT BANK OF NEW YORK.

RIGHT? AND SO YOU'VE GOTTA REACH OUT TO THE ONES LIKELY THAT HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PERSON, SEE IF IT'S THERE, AND THEN DELETE IT.

AND SOME OF IT CAN'T BE DELETED BECAUSE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD ONTO IT BY THE REGULATORS FOR SEVEN YEARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT.

NOT EASY, PLEASE, WITH RESPECT, , IF YOU DECIDE ON A INABLE ADDRESS MM-HMM .

AND YOU'RE CORRESPONDING WITH SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A SECURE SYSTEM, HOW DO THEY KNOW WHO YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TELL THEM GIVE 'EM A CALL.

.

YEAH, SPEAK TO THEM.

YEAH, YEAH.

OR, OR, OR TEXT VIA SOMETHING.

I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA STAND ALL JAMES BOND, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEND THEM AN EMAIL SAYING, THIS THING IS ME, YOU KIND OF JUST RIGHT.

DEFEATED IT.

THESE ARE JUST TWO LITTLE QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM .

YOU MENTIONED PASSKEY, AND WHEN I SIGNED INTO JEAN MILLER, AMAZON, SHE'S CONSTANTLY OFFERING ME CASKEY AND I JUST SAY NO, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

BUT IF I, I MEAN, I HAVE A PASSWORD, I HAVE A PASSWORD MANAGER.

IF I DO, THAT'S FINE.

PASSKEY, WILL IT BE LIKE THURSDAY? NO, BECAUSE IT, THAT'S WHAT IT WILL USE MOVING FORWARD.

INSTEAD, USE YOUR PASSWORD.

A GOOD PASSWORD IS, IS QUITE GOOD.

I HAVE TO BOOK.

BUT, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS HOW I STARTED DOING THIS, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING WHERE YOU COULD ASK GOOGLE, MAYBE I GOT IT FROM SHEETS.

ASK GOOGLE, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHO KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT ME? AND THEN THEY'LL SAY, THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT CAME UP ABOUT YOU.

AND THEN I CAN SAY, OR DON'T, I USUALLY KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE.

SOME WON'T.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WILL ALWAYS SUBMIT WHERE I, I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN MY RESPONSE.

GOOGLE IS IN EUROPE AND ELSEWHERE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.

FORGET IF YOU ASK GOOGLE TO ELIMINATE FROM ITS INDEX YOUR NAME AND INFORMATION ABOUT YOU IN ITS INDEX, IT WILL DO SO.

MM-HMM .

THE PROBLEM WITH GOOGLE IS IT'S CONSTANTLY CRAWLING THE ENTIRE INTERNET AND GATHERING INFORMATION.

SO EVENTUALLY IT WILL REBUILD THAT INDEX WITH INFORMATION ABOUT YOU IF IT'S OUT THERE ALREADY.

RIGHT.

THERE MIGHT BE THAT I MADE A COMMENT TO THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION MM-HMM .

AND I'M EVEN HEAR IF, AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAY FORGET THAT AND IT FLAGS THAT LITTLE BIT AND THE NEXT TIME IT GOES CRAWLING THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION, IT WON'T RE-INDEX IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT SOPHISTICATED.

IT SHOULD BE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS.

I DON'T KNOW.

DAVID, MORE FIND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO DOWN ONE RABBIT HOLE OR ANOTHER, YOU FIND, YOU GET IN THESE CONTRADICTORY SITUATIONS, YOU'RE SAYING, I WANT YOU TO NOT TRACK ME.

I WANT YOU TO FORGET THESE THINGS, THIS, THAT, AND, AND I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT I TOLD YOU THAT .

SO IT, IT'S LIKE, WELL, I GOTTA LEAVE ONE COOKIE THAT SAYS I'M THE GUY THAT I TOLD YOU.

RIGHT.

TELL YOU.

SO THEN YOU GET INTO THIS SORT OF PARADOXICAL SITUATION WHERE YOU, YOU WANT THEM TO REMEMBER YOUR INSTRUCTIONS NOT TO REMEMBER YOU.

RIGHT.

WE CAN'T REALLY, NO.

SO SHOULD WE ALL START USING, FORGET OUR CELL, IF YOU CAN FIND ONE .

OLD, OLD TELEPHONE LINES ARE GREAT CABLE.

YEAH, PLEASE.

UM, ONE THING, UM, I USED TO HAVE TWO FACTOR EDUCATION AND THEN I HAD A NEW PHONE AND I WROTE OVER ALL THE APPS AND EVERYTHING INFORMATION.

RIGHT NOW I'M CODE.

I ALREADY RESTORED ONE OF THEM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A PAIN.

IT WAS A PAIN.

YEAH.

NO, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA DO IT.

I STILL HAVE YOU.

YOU'VE GOTTA DO IT.

YEAH.

ANOTHER THING IS, UM, IF YOU HAVE CITIZENSHIP OF,

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UH, SO, UM, INTERESTING QUESTION.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE LAW, BUT I BELIEVE YES.

HOWEVER, YOU'D HAVE TO, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY DONE BY LETTER.

BECAUSE UNLESS YOU'RE ABLE TO VERIFY YOUR CITIZENSHIP, THEY'RE NOT GONNA NECESSARILY GRANT THAT HERE, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL ON THESE GDPR REQUESTS, IF YOU CLAIM THIS, THE COMPANY'S GONNA DO IT.

'CAUSE IT'S JUST EASIER THAN GOING THROUGH THE VERIFICATION PROCESS.

BUT THEY'RE ENTITLED, I THINK, TO ASK FOR EVIDENCE OF CITIZEN CITIZENSHIP WITHIN THE GDPR AREA.

AND MAY I, I MAY HAVE TO OPEN ALL MY ACCOUNTS AS AN IP ADDRESS.

.

OKAY.

LET'S VERY BRIEFLY GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE .

UM, SOMETHING I DID NOT BRING UP, IT'S IN THE MAGICAL SHEETS OVER THERE.

UM, IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD OF VPNS REVELATORY WHEN YOU START USING THEM, AND, AND VPN IS PROTON HAS A GREAT VPN NETWORK, UH, SERVERS ALL OVER THE PLANET IN MOST COUNTRIES, AND IT PUTS THE SERVER BETWEEN YOU AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.

SO YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THE SERVER.

AND WHEN YOU ASK FOR A WEBPAGE FOR SERVER PUTS ITSELF BETWEEN YOU AND THE REQUEST FOR THAT WEBPAGE.

SO THE COMPANY THAT'S SERVING UP THAT WEBPAGE ONLY SEES THAT VPN SERVER BETWEEN A SERVER AT VPN AND, UH, DUCKDUCKGO, YOU'RE AS SECURE AS YOU CAN HOPE TO BE, THAT THAT'S A ROCK SOLID COMBINATION.

AND VPNS, YOU CAN GET PLENTY OF GOOD VPNS FOR FREE.

OKAY.

UM, SOME VERY COOL THINGS ABOUT VPNS.

ONE OF THEM IS YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SAY, UM, IN SWITZERLAND, AND SUDDENLY IF YOU'RE VIEWING NETFLIX THROUGH THAT SCREEN, ALL OF EUROPE IS AVAILABLE TO YOU, ALL OF THE EUROPEAN CATALOG, BECAUSE IT SEES THE VPN AS BEING IN SWITZERLAND AND OPENS UP THE NETFLIX CATALOG FOR EUROPE TO YOU BECAUSE IT ONLY KNOWS YOU AS THAT SERVER SITTING OUT IN SWITZERLAND.

AND THAT'S A GREAT LITTLE TRICK TO HAVE THERE.

THE RIGHT VPN IS A VERY POWERFUL TOOL.

I I, THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO FAR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE AND GEEKY, SO I DIDN'T WANNA GET INTO IT, BUT, UM, PROTON, IT'S FREE.

SOME DECIDE TO MAKE YOU TURN OFF SOME SITES.

YEAH, SOME SITES JUST, THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T HANDLE IT, YOU KNOW, AND I, I HAVE LIKE A LITTLE VPN SCREEN UP AND I'M TURNING IT ON AND OFF PROBABLY SEVERAL TIMES IN A DAY, BUT IT TAKES ONE SECOND TO GET THROUGH TO SOMETHING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SUPER SECURE AND PRIVATE TO DO IT THAT WAY, PLEASE.

SO IN, IN, IN ALL MY ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, BYPASSING ALL PASSWORDS, THAT FACIAL MM-HMM .

SO IN ORDER TO BE SAVED, SHOULD I TURN THAT OFF? AND EACH TIME I GO INTO THE ACCOUNT, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE UNIQUE PASSWORDS TO THAT LOOK, IF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.

NO, LOOK, FACIAL RECOGNITION IS, IS PERFECTLY FINE.

I'D SAY THE ONLY TIME I THINK TWICE ABOUT IT IS IF IT'S WHAT YOU ARE USING TO OPEN YOUR PHONE.

BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT A, IF YOU'RE AT THE BORDER, THE PASSWORD STOPS IN COLD, A FACIAL RECOGNITION WON'T, THEY'LL JUST HOLD IT UP TO YOUR FACE.

BUT, UH, IF THEY CAN'T GET PAST THE FRONT SCREEN BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A PASSWORD ON IT, THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING BEHIND IT IS FACIAL RECOGNITION, GREAT.

IT'S, IT'S AWFULLY EASY AND IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE SECURE.

AND I, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE A PHOTO OF YOURSELF AND HOLD IT UP TO THE PHONE AND, AND FAKE THE PHONE OUT THAT IT'S LOOKING AT YOU.

IT SOMEHOW IT KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT LOOKING AT YOU.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY SECURE.

I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, PUBLIC WIFI DON'T.

EXACTLY.

UM, BUT PEOPLE DO IT ALL THE TIME BAD.

UM, THE OTHER THING WAS THAT I THOUGHT, I REMEMBER THAT THE US WAS ALSO GONNA USE THAT STANDARD.

I KNOW FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TOWARDS THAT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN TALK FOR YEARS ABOUT A FEDERAL PRIVACY LAW LIKE THE GDPR MM-HMM .

AND, UM, THEY JUST CAN'T SEEM TO GET SURPRISE, SURPRISE OR ACT TOGETHER.

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UH, THERE ARE PRIVACY LAWS POPPING UP IN VARIOUS STATES.

NEW YORK, NOT SO MUCH.

UM, THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY HERE HAS FOUGHT IT BECAUSE THEY THINK IT WILL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM, BUT, UM, COLORADO, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF STATES THAT HAVE FAIRLY DECENT ONES, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT TURNS INTO A HODGEPODGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY NOT GREAT.

NOT GREAT, AND ESPECIALLY NEW ABOUT AI VOICE USING VOICE IDENTIFY, RIGHT.

SO THAT WORKS.

AND I'VE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US , WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT? SO AGAIN, I'LL ALWAYS TELL YOU WHERE YOU'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST, BUT I CAN SPEAK AUTHORITATIVELY THAT, AND I, I DON'T, I THINK THE DEEP FAKES ON AUDIO AREN'T YET GOOD ENOUGH TO TOTALLY MATCH YOU WELL ENOUGH TO GET PAST AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM.

THEY MIGHT GET PAST YOUR GRANDMOTHER, YOU KNOW, CONVINCE HER THAT HER GRANDSON HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED OR WHATEVER.

UH, THAT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT STUFF.

I DON'T LIKE VOICE PASSWORDS.

I THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T LIKE THAT STUFF.

I, YEAH, BUT I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THE TECHNOLOGY'S RACING AHEAD.

YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IS THE WORST DAY FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY.

IT'S GETTING BETTER EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND I DON'T DOUBT THAT THE DEEP FAKES WILL BE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM A REAL VOICE IF THEY AREN'T ALREADY.

UM, I, I WOULD NOT RELY ON THAT.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE CAREFUL ON, ON EVER TURNING THAT STUFF ON OR RELYING ON IT.

NO, IT'S NOT.

IT'S JUST WHEN WE HAVE YOU PERSON TO PERSON CONVERSATION.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY TIME.

OH YEAH.

AS LONG AS FOR THE TIME BEING, AS LONG AS YOU CAN SEE THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION AT TIME BEFORE YOU DOUBT THAT EVEN, BUT SAY YES, BOB, ME, RIGHT.

.

YEAH.

YEAH, PLEASE.

SO YOU SAID BEFORE WHEN YOU'RE SLEEPING SOMEONE, UM, GIVE HIM A CALL.

RIGHT.

SO, AND I, I NEED TO KNOW MY DAD'S PASSWORD.

SOMETHING HAPPENS TO HIM AND HE CAN'T GET INTO HIS PHONE.

SO HE CALLS ME AND HE SAYS 7 6 4, 9.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

.

.

THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

AREN'T THEY LISTENING ALL THE TIME? NO, THEY'RE NOT.

NO, THEY'RE NOT.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A BRIEF PERIOD WHERE SIRI WAS LISTENING, UH, AND APPLE GOT SUED OVER THAT.

BUT NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GENERALLY NOT.

I MEAN, THERE'S SOME BELIEF THAT THEY ARE, BUT NO, I THOUGHT YOUR AMAZON ECHO WHAT THE AMAZON, AMAZON ECHO MIGHT BE.

YEP.

AMAZON ECHO MIGHT BE EVERYTHING AFTER A CERTAIN TRIGGER WHERE THEY LISTEN TO WHEN THEY RECORD.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS FREAKED ME OUT, WHY I'LL BE COMING, HAVE WALKED OUT THE HOUSE ON THE, ON SIDEWALK AND HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH A FRIEND OF MINE.

I WATCHED THE ORIGINAL YESTERDAY SEEN YEARS AGO.

IT'S GREAT.

THAT WAS THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF THE CONVERSATION.

10 MINUTES LATER, I'M ON FACEBOOK AND I'M WATCHING CLIPS OF THE ORIGINAL.

THAT'S, THAT'S HOW TO WATCH AND THAT, AND THAT FREAKS ME OUT.

I DIDN'T HAVE MY PHONE ON ME.

YEAH, WELL, OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT DOES, AND THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR PHONE ON YOU, IT, IT'S ONE OF THESE STATISTICAL THINGS WHERE YOU REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE IT HAPPENED, BUT STATISTICALLY, YOU HEAR ALL SORTS OF THINGS ALL DAY LONG AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND WHEN IT DOES, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THEY MUST BE LISTENING.

IT HAPPENS ONCE.

THAT'S IT.

I MEAN, I KNOW.

I, I, AND IN YOUR LIFETIME THAT'S, THOSE THINGS FREAK ME OUT A LITTLE BIT.

THERE'S LOTS TO FREAK OUT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

SPEAK CHRIS.

FLUFFY WINNER.

ONE LAST QUESTION, THEN WE LINGER.

MAYBE THERE'S MORE AFTERWARDS.

YOU, THIS IS PROBABLY PRETTY BASIC, BUT WHEN YOU UNPLUG SOMETHING, IS IT REALLY OFF? LIKE ALEXA, I TELL THE KIDS TO UNPLUG ALEXA IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A BATTERY THAT IT RUNS ON, WAIT A FEW SECONDS AND IT'S OFF AND IT'S REALLY OFF.

IT'S REALLY OFF IT.

AS LONG AS IT ISN'T LIKE THERE'S A BATTERY IN IT THAT IT RUNS, THEN IT'S OFF.

GIVE IT A SECOND OR TWO AND THEN

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IT'S DONE.

THAT'S A LONGER RABBIT HOLE THAN WE HAVE TIME FOR .

THANK YOU.

IF YOU PROBABLY HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M SURE THERE'S, THERE'S AN EMAIL YOU CAN ALWAYS WRITE AND ASK QUESTIONS ANONYMOUS.

IT'S.