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OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CALL TO ORDER THE, UH, ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14TH, 2023.
AND JUST FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE BEFORE, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST TWO CASES, UM, WE ARE GOING TO FIRST OF ALL ASK, ARE THE MAILINGS IN ORDER? I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY MY STAFF THAT ALL THE MAILINGS ARE IN ORDER.
FIRST WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE PRESENTATION BY THE PROPONENTS.
THEN WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'D LIKE TO BE HEARD.
THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS BY, UH, THE ZONING BOARD OF THE PROPONENT, IF THERE ARE ANY.
AND, UM, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE MEMBERS, UM, DISCUSS WHY THEY'RE VOTING IN THE WAY THEY ARE.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE MOTIONS, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE VARIOUS VARIANCES.
THE LAST, UM, CASE IS A, UH, REVIEW OF A PROPOSED LAW, AND THAT WILL BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UM, CASE THAN THE OTHER TWO.
WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A, THE STAY IF YOU'D LIKE.
YOU CAN LEAVE AFTER THAT OR ANYTIME YOUR CASE IS OVER.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT, UH, THE NEW LAW, UH, BY THE PROPONENTS.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS BY THE MEMBERS, UM, IF THEY HAVE ANY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS AND, UH, LINDA'S GONNA HELP US OUT ON THAT.
AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA, UM, HAVE MOTIONS, UH, TO WHETHER WE'RE GONNA, UM, REFER IT TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, EITHER POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY.
[Case No. 21-23]
TODAY IS, UM, CASE NUMBER 2123.AND THAT IS, UH, REBECCA BRANT AND SEAN MOONEY OF 90 HAMILTON AVENUE.
WHO'S HERE, UM, AS PROPONENT FOR THAT, THE ARCHITECT.
THAT'S QUITE, EVERYBODY'S GONNA SAY THEIR NAME AND THEIR ADDRESS BEFORE THEY, UH, UH, SET THEIR PRESENTATION OR THEIR OPINIONS, OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO SAY TO THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS ZACH AND I'M REPRESENTING, UH, OUR CLIENTS TODAY.
UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING AT OUR ARCHITECTURE FIRM FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW, STUDYING TO BE AN ARCHITECT, UH, FIRST TIME BOARD IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
WE'RE, YOU'RE JUST TELLING US THE STORY.
THERE'S NO REASON TO BE NERVOUS.
SO WE ALL DID, WE ALL DID OUR FIRST CASE, NO MATTER, OR OUR FIRST CLIENT, OR OUR FIRST THING.
SO WE, WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE YOUR LAST NAME.
AND WHAT ARCHITECT FIRM ARE YOU WORKING AT? THAT WOULD BE DOUGLAS CUTLER ARCHITECTS.
AND THEIR ADDRESS? 24 DANBURY ROAD, WILTON, CONNECTICUT.
SO THOUGH I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT, I DO KNOW THIS PROJECT VERY WELL.
AND IF THIS WILL CONNECT, JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU THE MICROPHONE.
SO HERE'S A PROPOSED RENDERING OF OUR RENOVATION, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IS PROPOSED.
AND THEN HERE'S 90 HAMILTON AS IT IS NOW.
UM, BEFORE I GET INTO ALL OF THE EXISTING PHOTOS WHERE WE'RE MAKING OUR CASE, UH, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE, THE SITE PLAN AND HOW THE HOUSE IS SITUATED WITH THE SETBACKS.
SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN, AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU SEE THE EXISTING HOUSE, WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE FOOTPRINT AT ALL.
HOWEVER, WITH THE NEW ZONING LAW, THE SETBACK IS CUTTING INTO, CAN YOU SEE THE MOUSE HERE? IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE HAS BEEN CUT BY THE ZONING LINE.
AND AS CHARLES BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TODAY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER CONFLICT WHERE THIS IS A CORNER LOT.
SO, UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS ALSO CUTTING INTO THE HOUSE NOW, WHICH IS MAKING IT REALLY HARD FOR THE FAMILY HERE TO EX EXPAND, UH, MORE BEDROOMS AND STUFF FOR THEIR GROWING FAMILY.
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AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE SIDE BY SIDE, WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE FOOTPRINT AT ALL.BUT, UH, WE ARE AGGRAVATING THIS, UH, SETBACK BY EXTENDING THE HEIGHT, AS YOU SAW IN THE FIRST RENDERING.
NOW, THE CASE IS THE ADJACENT HOUSE IS IF I CAN FIND THE RIGHT PHOTO FURTHER IN FRONT OF MY CLIENT'S RESIDENCE, AND IT'S TALLER.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN THE SETBACK, UM, I, I GUESS OUR CASE IS WELL DATED IT FIRST, OR THEY'RE, THEY ARE AS WELL.
SO, UM, AND THEN AS FOR HEIGHT, IF YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE RESIDENTS BEHIND THEM ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER UP ON THE HILL AS THE, THE GRADING OF THE SITE SLOPES DOWN TOWARDS THE STREET.
UM, CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, UM, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED FRONT ELEVATION YOU SAW EARLIER WITH COLOR.
WE WERE GIVEN A TEMPORARY PERMIT TO START BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY CLIENTS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS DONE FOR A LONG TIME, SO YOU GUYS WERE NICE, NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE US A TEMPORARY BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, SO THIS WAS THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY PERMIT, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE, I, IT'S NOT AS NICE AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR THIS FAMILY TO HAVE.
UM, SO WE'RE HOPING TODAY THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEIR HOME, UH, A POSITIVE ON THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE IF YOU ASK ME, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THIS DESIGN.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THE OTHER SETBACK WOULD AFFECT IT NOW AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, BUT, UM, CHARLES MM-HMM
WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, SO BEING THAT THIS IS A CORNER LOT, THERE'S TWO FRONT YARDS, ESSENTIALLY.
THERE'S THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THERE'S THE LEFT HAND SIDE, OR THE MOUNT HOPE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
SO THE FRONT YARD ON HAMILTON, BOTH EXISTING AND PROPOSED, IS REQUIRING A 9.45 FOOT SETBACK.
VARIANCE, I MEAN, UH, VARIANCE, EXCUSE ME.
AND DUE TO THE CORNER LOT, THE MOUNT HOPE SIDE OR THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE REQUIRING A 6.17 FOOT VARIANCE.
ALSO EXISTING AND PROPOSED, ALSO EXISTING APROPO, THEY'RE BOTH GOING ON TOP OF THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
SO THE, THE, THE MOUNT HOPE SIZE, WHAT IS THE SIX? THE VARIANCE IS 6.17 FEET.
ANY ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? NO, THERE'S NO PROBLEM.
UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE VILLAGE RIGHT OF WAY ON MOUNT HOPE IS NEARLY 20 FEET ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, MUCH GREATER THAN THE AVERAGE DWELLING IN HASTINGS.
UH, IT'S A VERY, VERY LARGE PARCEL OF LAND WITH THE, WITH THE SIDE IN THE GUARDRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS HOUSE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S VERY DECEIVING.
SO IT, AND, AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOUSE, YOU'RE ONLY, YOU'RE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 45 FEET FROM THE, FROM THE CURB WHEN MEANWHILE IT STILL REQUIRES A VARIANCE, BUT, OKAY.
SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH BOTH VARIANCES TONIGHT AND, UM, AND WE WILL BE DONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? THAT'S OKAY WITH ME.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LET'S START, BETH, UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD TO UNDERSTAND WHEN, WHETHER ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE OBJECTED.
TO THE VARIANCES, IN FACT, YES.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE, IN THE, UH, AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND EITHER IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS BOTH VARIANCES, PLEASE.
UM, SHOULD I YES, COME UP? HI, MY NAME'S CATHERINE WOLF.
MY HUSBAND LARRY AND I HAVE LIVED ACROSS THE STREET AT 95 HAMILTON SINCE 1992.
I JUST WANNA EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED VARIANCE.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? OKAY.
BETH, ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S IT.
UM, I THINK THE, THE ONLY THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE, AND I I I, I, I, I, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY, I, I, I KNOW IT FAIRLY WELL, UM, BUT THE, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE HEIGHT IS GOING UP, FOOTPRINT'S GONNA REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I'D REALLY HAVE AGAIN IS, IS THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, I KNOW YOU GUYS LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.
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THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEHIND TEND TO HAVE LIKE THE MORE, AND, AND EVEN THEN IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A RIVER VIEW THERE.YOU WOULD, YOU HAVE TO GO QUITE A BIT FURTHER UP IN ELEVATION.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU, I I ASSUME THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEHIND OR UP THE HILL FROM THE, UH, FROM, I'M ASSUMING THEY WERE VERIFIED SINCE THEY WERE WITHIN THE RADIUS.
THEY WERE, THEY THEY WERE NOTICED, YES, WERE NOTICED.
AND, AND, AND ALSO JUST, THERE IS NO VARIANCE REQUIRED ON THE REAR.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HEIGHT.
THERE'S NO HEIGHT VARIANCE, MORE SENSITIVE TO LINE OF SIGHT AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF IT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE RIVER OR THE PALISADES OR ANYTHING OF THAT, NO.
IT'S, IT'S NOT IN A VIEW PRESERVATION ZONE.
NO, IT'S NOT IN THE VIEW PRESERVATION ZONE AND THE HEIGHT COMPLIES.
I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK JUST FOR THE RECORD TO POINT OUT, UM, THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT REQUIRES A VARIANCE IS PRETTY MINIMAL, UM, IN THE FRONT.
IT'S JUST THE PORTION THAT JUTS OUT MOST OF THE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY CONFORMING.
AND THEN IT'S JUST A NARROW SIDE.
I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE RECORD THAT, THAT BE MENTIONED.
YEAH, I, I BIKED PAST THAT HOUSE OVER A HUNDRED TIMES.
IT'S WAS IN, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY FROM ME AND UP HAMILTON AND THEN UP TO THE REST OF MOUNT HOPE.
UM, SO I WAS ALWAYS WONDERING WHY I WAS ONLY ONE, ONE, UH, ONE FLOOR AND THE NEW PEOPLE THAT YOU BOUGHT IT RIGHT? ABOUT HOW LONG AGO? YES, PLEASE.
UH, SO WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY END OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
AND THOSE ARE YOUR DAUGHTERS THERE? I, I JUST FOUND 'EM ON THE STREET.
YEAH, IT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR THE BEDROOMS, RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I CAN MAKE A MOTION.
JOSH, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, IN CASE 21, 23 90 HAMILTON, UH, TO APPROVE RELIEF FROM THE STRIPPED APPLICATION OF THE VILLAGE ZONING CODE.
UM, IT WOULD BE FOR FRONT YARD SEC, BACK ON ONE SIDE, EXISTING AND PROPOSED, UH, 20.55 FEET REQUIRED IS 30 FEET, SO THE VARIANCE WOULD BE 9.45.
ON THE SECOND SIDE, IT'S 23.3 FEET REQUIRED.
YES, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, BUT I'M GLAD YOU CHECKED MY MATH.
UM, AND THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK.
FIRST WIN
THAT'S WHAT SHE REALLY WANTED IN FRONT OF MY PHONE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT SHE REALLY WANTED.
[Case No. 22-23]
THE SECOND CASE IS CASE NUMBER 2223 RE AND SHARON WALLICK.I WISH I WAS HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND I'LL ADMIT IT, AFTER 45 YEARS.
I'M STILL NERVOUS WHENEVER I COME BEFORE A ZONING BOARD.
UM, THIS PROJECT I THINK IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD ONE.
I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS AGREE WITH THE APPROACH WE'VE TAKEN AND THE REASONS WHY.
UM, WE NEED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VARIANCES.
LEMME SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS TO HIS HANDS.
UM, WHICH THIS IS FROM THE, UH, THE AGENDA THAT WE GOT.
UM, WE NEED SIDE YARD SETBACKS.
UM, NEITHER SIDE YARD AT THIS POINT IS COMPLIANT.
UM, WE ARE NOT INCREASING HOW THE, HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE PROPERTY, WE'RE MAINTAINING THE LINE OF THE HOUSE.
UM, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING OUT FURTHER, EVEN THOUGH THE DEPTH OF IT IS NOT AN ISSUE OF, UH, OF SETBACK, UH, VARIANCE, WE NEED TO HAVE A VARIANCE FOR THE ADDITIONAL LENGTH THAT WE'RE ADDING TO, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR EDITION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UM, WE, THIS IS AN EXTE EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING NONCONFORMITY.
THE EXISTING HOUSE IS CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN THE ZONING CURRENTLY, UH, PERMITS.
UH, BOTH SIDE YARDS ARE, UH, CLOSER THAN THEY'RE PERMITTED.
AND THE TOTAL, UM, THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED IS ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LESS THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
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THE NONE OF THOSE ARE BEING CHANGED BY WHAT WE'RE DOING.UM, BUT, UM, ONE THAT IS BEING CHANGED IS THE DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE.
WE ARE ADDING 111 SQUARE FEET TO THE SITE.
SO WE WILL HAVE A, UH, GREATER INCREASE, UM, IN THE, IN THE COVERAGE.
UM, IT'S ALL IN THE BACK, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME IMAGES IN A MINUTE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING HAVING A TERRACE OUT THE BACK, WHICH WILL BE IN THE REQUIRED, UM, YARD AREA OF THE REAR YARD.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE SEEN REALLY BY ANYBODY UNLESS YOU'RE SITTING THERE.
UM, AND WE ARE INCREASING THE FAR.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE, UM, INCREASE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, I, I BELIEVE IS RELATIVELY, UM, DI MINIS.
IT'S, UM, THE 111 SQUARE FEET.
AND I THINK WE HAVE GOOD REASONS, UM, THAT WE WANT TO DO IT.
JUST TO ACCLIMATE YOU, UM, WE'RE ON SOUTH CALUMET, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK.
UM, MOST OF THE HOUSES IN HERE ARE, HAVE KIND OF HAVE HASTINGS CHARM, UM, FROM THE ERA THAT THEY WERE BUILDING NICE HOUSES.
UM, ONE THING I WAS NOTICING AS I WAS LOOKING AT THAT DRAWING IS THAT MANY OF THE OTHER HOUSES ACTUALLY HAVE A GARAGE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
THIS HOUSE HAS ITS GARAGE UNDER THE HOUSE.
UM, NONE OF THOSE GARAGES ARE SOMETHING THAT I WAS AWARE OF UNTIL I LOOKED AT THIS MAP.
UM, WHICH MEANS, WELL, AND I'VE BEEN IN THE, UH, THE WALLACKS BACKYARD MANY, MANY TIMES.
UM, I THINK THAT THE FOLIAGE AND THE, AND THE LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTIES IS SO THICK AND, AND DENSE THAT YOU CAN BE IN VERY PRIVATE IN YOUR BACKYARD WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT SOMEBODY, UM, NEXT DOOR HAVING SOMETHING IN THEIR BACKYARD.
AND THE ADDITION THAT WE'RE, UH, PROPOSING IS JUST ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THOSE STRUCTURES.
UM, THESE ARE JUST PHOTOGRAPHS AS WE GO, UM, UP THIS STREET ON ONE SIDE, UM, THAT THIS IS THE SUBJECT HOUSE.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW IT FITS IN NICELY WITH THE CHARACTER AND THE SCALE OF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET.
UM, HERE WE ARE GOING UP THE OTHER SIDE.
THE, UH, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET.
AGAIN, THE SAME FEELING OF, UH, NICE STUCCO HOUSES THAT HAVE NICE TRIM.
HERE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING.
UM, THE TWO, UH, PHOTOS ON THE TOP DON'T REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
IN FACT, EVEN IF I'VE, AS I'VE TAKEN THESE TWO LOWER PHOTOGRAPHS, WHEN YOU GO UP DOWN THE STREET OR UP THE STREET A LITTLE BIT AND YOU LOOK BACK, UM, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BUILDING.
UM, HERE ARE SOME SHOTS IN THE BACKYARD WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THIS.
UM, THE TWO LOWER, UH, PHOTOS ARE THE EXISTING ONE STORY STRUCTURE THAT WAS ADDED AT ONE POINT TO PROVIDE OSTENSIBLY A DINING AREA, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY SMALL.
FOUR PEOPLE CAN KIND OF FIT IN THERE MAYBE.
UM, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T GIVE THEM THE DINING ROOM THAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY TRYING TO GET, WHICH IS THE AGENDA THAT WE'VE GOT, UM, TO SATISFY THEIR NEEDS.
UM, HERE'S SOME MORE SHOTS IN THE BACKYARD.
I DID JUST SURPRISE THEM WHEN I CAME OVER TO TAKE THESE PHOTOS.
I'M SURE IF I HAD TOLD 'EM I WAS COMING TO TAKE PHOTOS, THEY MIGHT HAVE PUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUFF LIKE AROUND.
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY VERY NICE THE WAY IT IS WITH
THE CHARACTERS VERY LIVED IN HOME AND VERY LIVED IN YARD, AND THEY'VE GOT A VERY FRIENDLY DOG.
UM, THESE PHOTOS KIND OF SHOW YOU HOW, UM, WELL LANDSCAPED THE PROPERTY LINES ARE.
UM, THAT THE, THE, IN THE LOWER LEFT, THERE YOU ARE ACTUALLY, YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 15 FEET OF FOLIAGE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE EVEN THE NE NEIGHBOR'S HOMES.
SO HERE ARE JUST SOME MORE SHOTS.
THE TOP RIGHT IS PERHAPS OF INTEREST BECAUSE THAT'S THE LINE THAT WE'LL BE EXTENDING OUT, UM, INTO THE BACKYARD.
AND THEN WE GET TO OUR DRAWINGS.
UM, I'M GONNA TRY AND SKIP TO THINGS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER.
SO THIS IS A, UH, THE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
THE DARKER GRAY IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND IT'S SUPERIMPOSED OVER THE LIGHTER GRAY, WHICH IS THE ONE STORY ADDITION THAT ALREADY IS EXISTING THERE.
WHAT YOU ALSO SEE IN THIS IS THE TERRACE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UM, THERE IS A DASH LINE THERE THAT YOU SEE IS THE EXISTING TERRACE.
SO WE'RE PUSHING ABOUT TWO FEET FURTHER, UM, TO THE SOUTH, ABOUT FOUR FEET FURTHER, UM, TO THE, UH, WEST TOWARDS THE BACK PROPERTY LINE.
THAT'S THE SECTION WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING INTO THE REAR YARD.
BUT JUST WITH A TERRACE NOT STRUCTURE, WE ARE MOVING THE HOT TUB, WHICH CURRENTLY IS CLOSER TO THE HOUSE THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING A NONCONFORMITY, UM, AND PUTTING THE HOT TUB OUT TO A POSITION, WHICH I THINK WILL BE MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE FOR PEOPLE USING IT.
AND NICE FEATURE IN THEIR YARD.
UH, HERE ARE THE EXISTING ELEVATIONS OF THE HOUSE IN THE, UM, MIDDLE ROW.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, THE DRAWING OF THE ONE STORY ON THE, ON THE BACK, ON THE ONE TO THE RIGHT.
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IT PROJECTING OUT.I'LL, I'LL COME BACK WITH THE ORIGINALS OR, OR THE PROPOSED AND I'LL SHOW YOU HOW THOSE COMPARE.
HERE'S THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE FIRST FLOOR.
NOTHING'S CHANGING ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER, UM, VERSION OF THAT.
UM, THE IDEA HERE IS TO RENOVATE THE KITCHEN, MAKE IT A MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE FUNCTIONAL KITCHEN.
THEY LOVE TO ENTERTAIN AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL AT IT.
UM, THEY HAVE AMAZING EVENTS AT THEIR HOME.
UM, IT'S A COMMUNITY, UM, DESTINATION FOR MANY PEOPLE.
UM, THEY'VE GOT, UM, KIDS WHO HAVE GREAT FRIENDS WHO ALL LIKE TO COME OVER TO THEIR HOUSE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS, PARTICULARLY ON FRIDAY EVENINGS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A CONG A YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF PEOPLE GETTING TOGETHER AND ENJOYING A MEAL AND GOOD CONVERSATION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ARI, BUT YOU SHOULD BUY HIS BOOK THE LONG PATH.
UM, AND THIS IS WHERE HE DOES A LOT OF HIS THINKING AND TALKING WHILE HIS WIFE IS STANDING IN THE KITCHEN COOKING.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IS THAT SHE REALLY HATES STANDING IN THE KITCHEN WITH, SHE CAN'T ENTERTAIN PEOPLE AND BE WITH 'EM.
SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO OPEN THAT UP ALL UP SO THAT THE DINING ROOM AND THE KITCHEN WORK IS ONE OPEN SPACE.
THEY'LL HAVE A SMALL SITTING AREA IN THE FRONT.
UM, BUT UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE POPPING OUT IN THE BACK ON THIS.
UM, AND THEN HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS SHOWING HOW WE'RE TUCKING IN ON THE BACK, UNDER THE WINDOWS.
I THINK IT MELDS WELL WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE.
UM, IT KIND OF PICKS UP THE SAME LOOK OF THOSE, UH, OF THE, UH, FIRST FLOOR, UM, GARDEN ROOM THAT'S ON THE END, YOU KNOW, CARRYING THE, THAT LOW PITCH ROOF AROUND.
UM, I THINK THAT WORKS OUT WELL.
AND THIS IS SHOWING YOU HOW THOSE, YOU KNOW, HOW IT COMPARES.
THE, THE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE EXTENDING FURTHER INTO THE REAR YARD PAST THE, THOSE, THAT RED DOTTED LINE IS NOT A VARIANCE FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THE BACKYARD.
IT'S THE FACT THAT WE'RE EXTENDING THE EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY OF WHERE WE'RE EXTENDING INTO THE SIDE YARD, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING CLOSER WITH THE SIDE YARD.
UM, AND JUST 'CAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE ALWAYS INTERESTING THINGS.
UM, HERE ARE THOSE 10, SAME 10 HOUSES ON THE STREET, UM, KIND OF WHERE WE FIT IN.
THE LOTS ARE ALL KIND OF IN A RANGE OF ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.
UH, LIVING AREA RANGES VARIES.
THEY'RE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, THEY'RE AT THE TOP END OF LIVING AREA, ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THEY, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE FINISHED OFF REALLY THE ATTIC OF THEIR HOUSE.
THEY, THEY, IT'S REALLY AN ATTIC, BUT IT'S FINISHED NICELY.
UM, SO THEY'RE UP AT THE TOP OF THAT.
BUT AGAIN, ALL WE'RE ADDING IS 111 SQUARE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND THE FOOTPRINT IS ACTUALLY, UM, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE ALMOST TO THE LOW SIDE.
YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHERS THAT ARE BIGGER, BUT THE HOUSES ALL FIT IN NICELY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR A PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE GOT? WELL, FIRST LET'S HEAR FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST OR IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.
DO WE HAVE ANY LETTERS OR WE'VE RECEIVED NO COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JOSH, I'LL START FROM YOU.
CAN WE JUST GO BACK TO, UM, I THINK YOU HAD AN OVERALL SITE PLAN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST WANT TO SEE ALONG THE SIDE THAT YOU'RE EXTENDING THE NON-CONFORMITY WHERE THE ADJACENT HOUSE IS.
YEAH, IT'S, UM, WE'RE THE YELLOW.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY'VE GOT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT A PRETTY GOOD SIDE YARD.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ENCROACHING ON THEM.
WE'RE ALSO DOWN LOW ENOUGH THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ANY TALLER THAN THE EXISTING.
SO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ANY VIEW THAT WOULD BE AFFECTING, IT'S REALLY NOT GONNA BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THEM.
AND THE, THE, THE TREMENDOUS DISTURBANCE THAT THIS FAMILY DOES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY HAVE THESE AMAZING EVENTS WHERE THEY SET UP TENTS AND HAVE PEOPLE SINGING IN THEIR BACKYARD, THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I THINK THIS WILL ACTUALLY JUST MAKE THINGS MUCH NICER.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE ANY ADVERSE EFFECT.
I THINK IT'LL BE A REAL POSITIVE FOR NOT ONLY THE, THE APPLICANT, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THEIR FRIENDS IN THE EXTENDED NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT ARE THE BLUE SQUARES? UM, THOSE ARE THE FOUR OF 'EM THAT ARE NOT ON THE YELLOW PROPERTY ARE EXISTING GARAGES AND BACKYARDS.
AND SO, AND IT JUST HAPPENS THAT THE ADDITION WE'RE PROPOSING IS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THAT.
AND THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT, THE POINT I TRIED TO MAKE EARLIER IS IF I'VE BEEN THERE IN THEIR BACKYARD MANY TIMES AND I'M LOOKING INTO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'VE GOT IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT ALL THOSE HOUSES HAD BACKYARD GARAGES UNTIL I PUT THIS DRAWING TOGETHER.
AND I REALIZED PROBABLY NO ONE'S GONNA KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS EITHER.
IT'S SO WELL THE, ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE WELL LANDSCAPED IN THE BACK AND I THINK IT ALL FITS IN VERY WELL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION.
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WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF IT, I THINK SAYS THAT THE VARIANCE IS 173 ON THE FOURTH NON-CONFORMITY DETAILS.BUT I'M HEARING YOU SAY THE VARIANCE IS 111 FEET.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IT IS AND HOW MUCH IT IS.
OR AM I, THAT'S NOT THE HOUSE ADDITION, THAT'S THE PAVING IN THE REQUIRED YARD.
SO, BUT NOT, IT IS NOT, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE, UM, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE ITSELF.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S PAVING BEYOND THE HOUSE, BUT IT IS IN THE BACKYARD.
SO THE, THE ONE 11 IS ONE WAY TO COUCH THE VARIANCE.
AND THE OTHER WAY IS TO SAY THE ONE 11 PLUS THE PAVING AT THE 1 73, BECAUSE THE ONE 11 HAS TO DO WITH THE FAR.
THAT'S THE INCREASE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THE ONE 11 HAS TO DO WITH THE FAR, RIGHT? YEP.
SO THE, THE ADDITION ITSELF IS 200 SOMETHING, 213 SQUARE FEET? YES.
I THINK THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
THE ONE 11 IS JUST THE INCREASE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER NUMBER IS THE HORIZONTAL, THE PAVING.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, ON THE, THE, THE FINAL PAGE BEFORE THE END OF THE PRESENTATION WHEN YOU HAD THE COMPARATIVE, UM, NUMBERS, UM, ARE THESE ESSENTIALLY CONSISTENT WITH FAR AT THIS POINT? NO, I MEAN, NO, THESE, YEAH, WE, FOR US TO DO AN FAR CALCULATION OF THE NEIGHBORING HOMES, VERY OFTEN, TO ME THAT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A MAGIC TRIP BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE HYPOTHESIZING THAT IF I TAKE THAT LOT AREA AND I TAKE WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IN GREENBERG AS LIVING AREA, RIGHT.
THAT THOSE CAN CALCULATE THE NUMBER.
THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT HOW YOUR FAR WORKS.
SO I COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS CLOSE TO BEING RIGHT AND IT'S NOT, I COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT SHOULD BE AND IT ACTUALLY IS COMPLIANT.
TO REALLY DO THAT, WE'D NEED TO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THE SPACES IN THE HOUSE.
AND I, AND I THINK THE, I MEAN, THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THAT IS THAT WHILE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS CERTAINLY FALLS WITHIN LINE IN SOME CASES LIKE SMALLER.
AND YET IT DOES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THE FAR.
I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT COMMON ON CALUME, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR HOUSES TO EXCEED THE FAR AND, AND I, I, I ONLY ASK THAT BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE GUIDELINE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, OLDER HOUSES, IT TENDS TO HAPPEN A LOT.
I MEAN, IF, IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE FROM IT, AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT AGAIN THAT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, I'M, I'M USING A LOT OF FRUITS TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT A VEGETABLE DISH.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THE LOT AREAS AND ALL THE LOT AREAS ARE KIND OF WITHIN THE SAME REALM, AND THEN THE LIVING AREAS KIND OF FIT, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF RELATIVELY SIMILAR.
AND THEN THE FOOTPRINTS ARE ALSO, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
THE, WITH THE ADDITION, UM, THE LOGIC IS THAT WE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH OUR FAR.
RICHARD FAR IS FAIRLY NEW IN YOUR CODE.
IT WAS ONLY ADOPTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOUR, YOUR MIC.
UM, I'D JUST, UM, LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, REAR YARD PAVING IN THE REQUIRED YARD.
UH, THE VARIANCE IS 173 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED MM-HMM
UM, TO ME THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT, UH, INCREASE.
173 SQUARE SQUARE FEET OVER ZERO.
SO LET ME ASK YOU NOW, THE, THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW, DO THEY HAVE ANY, ANY PATIOS IN THE BACK? YES, THEY DO.
UM, THIS DRAWING, IF YOU SEE THAT ARC THAT'S IN THE LIGHTER GRAY AND THEN THE DASH LINE COMING ACROSS, THAT'S THEIR EXISTING TERRACE.
COULD YOU GO UP AND JUST SHOW ME THE YEAH, I JUST TAKE THE HANDHELD.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LINE OF THE BACKYARD.
AND I THINK, I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THIS STRIP AND THIS PIECE OF THE HOT TUB.
AND IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT, YOU'D, YOU'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME MAKING USE OF WHAT THIS IS FOR.
ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE A NICE AREA OVER HERE, WHICH HAS NO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT ENCROACHING IN ANY WAY.
SO I JUST THINK THIS IS A NICER DESIGN AND THIS IS GREAT.
AND WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL MAKE, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETELY CHANGED THE WATER
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ON THE STREET WITH WHAT WE DID IN THE FRONT.WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE IT WAS KIND OF LAKE WALLACH WHEN WE'D GET STORMS, UM, THE WATER WOULD COME DOWN THE STREET FROM, UM, I THINK OF IT AS CLINTON, BUT THAT'S VARD VARD.
UM, IT COME, IT WAS COMING DOWN, COMING DOWN SOUTH CALUMET AND THERE WAS KIND OF A WEIRD CONDITION WITH A TREE ROOT AND A CURB AND A SIDEWALK.
SO THE WATER WOULD JUMP THAT COME ONTO THE SIDEWALK AND GO DOWN THEIR DRIVEWAY AND IT WOULD BE LIKE FEET OF WATER.
AND WE, WITH VERY SLIGHT TOUCH, JUST GOT THE DRIVEWAY TO WORK SO THAT YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE WE'VE DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
BUT THE WATER DOESN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY IMPROVED THAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE PUT IN A LOT OF, OF STORAGE, SO WE'RE CAP CAPTURING A LOT MORE WATER AND GETTING IT BACK INTO THE GROUND THAN WHAT USED TO HAPPEN FROM THAT PROPERTY.
MAYBE, MAYBE ONE DATA POINT, JERRY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE EXTENDING WHAT DIRECTION IS THAT NORTH? HOW MUCH OF HOW, WHAT IS THE DIMENSION? WEST? RIGHT, WEST.
WEST? WHAT IS THE DIMENSION OF, YOU MEAN HOW FAR IS THAT GOING? YEAH, SO THE SITE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I, WELL THIS IS A, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT? FROM HE HERE TO HERE IS 85 AND FROM THERE TO THERE, I THINK IT'S 35.
SO WE'RE GOING APPROXIMATELY, IT'S SHOWING ON, ON THE SIDE PLAN, RIGHT? I THINK WE DO.
SO WE'RE GOING ABOUT FOUR FEET.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE REAR, THAT'S THE ADD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
WE'RE GOING ABOUT FOUR FEET INTO THE REAR YARD.
UM, SO THE PATIO IS ALREADY THERE? YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN THIS, WE'RE NOT UP, IN FACT WE'VE GOT 10 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THIS BEFORE WE HIT THE TREES THAT ARE GIVING YOU A, A JUNGLE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD, WHICH IS ALSO LANDSCAPED.
SO PATRICK, DID I GIVE YOU, DID YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? I DIDN'T.
I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS SANTA SO WELL.
UH, LONG HISTORY HERE IN, UH, THE RIVER TOWNS.
ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S NO QUESTIONS.
UM, AND UM, IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, LET ME KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GENERALLY, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING NON-CON PERFORMANCE, I THINK THE FAR IS THE VARIANCE IS DI MINIMIS, THAT'S A WORD THAT IS A BUZZWORD FOR THIS BOARD.
BUT IN THIS CASE, BUZZWORD FOR ME TOO.
I THINK THE, AND I, I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT'S STOPPING ME A LITTLE BIT IS THE, IS THE COMBINATION OF THE PAVING AND THE DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE ONLY BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THOSE THINGS ARE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR PERMEABILITY AND WATER MANAGEMENT AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I IT, IT DOES SEEM LIKE A RELATIVELY SMALL ADD AND WE SHOULD RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO REDESIGN, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO CONSIDER SOME PERMEABILITY OF THAT PATIO? ABSOLUTELY.
AND IN FACT, IF I WERE ON A BOARD LIKE THIS AND I WAS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT SOMEBODY LIKE MYSELF WOULD HAVE TO DO, I WOULD SAY, UM, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE ISSUES HERE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS TIGHT KNIT AND YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT WATER, UM, THAT'S RUNNING OFF YOUR PROPERTY 'CAUSE YOU'VE INCREASED THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WHO IT'S GONNA AFFECT.
SO WHAT WOULD MAKE US FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IS IF INSTEAD OF JUST PICKING UP THE DELTA OF ADDITIONAL PAVING, YOU PICK UP EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING ON THAT AREA.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY IMPROVING IT OVER, UH, EXISTING CONDITIONS.
YOU'RE REDUCING THE CHANCE OF ANYBODY BEING ADVERSELY AFFECTED.
WELL, PATRICK, PATRICK, NOW YOU KNOW WHY I'M SURROUNDED BY BOTH SIDES, BY ARCHITECTS
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? LET'S START WITH, UH, HERE, CAN I JUST, CAN WE DO 'EM ALL ONE AT A TIME? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? YOU CAN DO 'EM ALL IN ONE, BUT DO WE WANT TO PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON RELATING TO THE YEAH, GO AHEAD.
ISSUE OF WHAT YOU JUST HEARD JOSH AND WHAT YOU RAISED.
YEAH, BUT I I I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP PHRASING IT.
IS IT IS THE IDEA TO, UM, TO IMPROVE THE WATER RUNOFF, UH, SO AS TO COUNTERACT THE ADDITIONAL, ARE YOU GOING TO CAPTURE THE WATER OR ARE YOU GONNA USE A SET A MORE PERVIOUS PAVE PER YEAH, SAY WE'RE GONNA DO A COMBINATION.
AND WHAT I'VE DONE WITH A LOT OF THIS SUCCESSFULLY IS THAT THE, BECAUSE I, I PREFER A TERRACE THAT HA FEELS A MORE NATURAL FIELD WHERE WATER CAN GO IN.
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BUT I HAVE ALSO FOUND THAT JUST DOING A ROCK BASE GR YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A CRUSHED STONE BASE, THE WATER STILL DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET DOWN DEEP ENOUGH BEFORE IT'S FLOWING OUT.SO WHAT I FIND BETTER IS TO CALCULATE THE AREA AND PUT IN A, A CAPACITY OF SQUARE FEET OF CALTECH UNITS THAT ARE BURIED DOWN DEEP ENOUGH THAT WHEN THEY COME IN, WHEN THE WATER GOES INTO THE GROUND, IT'S NOT ONLY NOT COMING OUT AND AFFECTING ANYONE ELSE, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT AFFECTING THE, THE, OUR CLIENT.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THE WATER TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S COMING IN AND MAKING THEIR BASEMENT DAMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
CAN YOU PHRASE, YOU WANNA PHRASE THAT FOR US?
UM, I'LL, I'LL REPEAT IT AGAIN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
SO THE CONDITION WOULD BE THE USE OF, UM, PERVIOUS PAVERS ON THE ADDITIONAL TERRACE AREA THAT ARE WITHIN THE SETBACK WITHIN THE REQUIRED YARD, AND ALSO THE PROVISION OF SUFFICIENT STORAGE FOR THE STORM WATER RUNOFF TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE VILLAGES CONSULTING ENGINEER.
SOUNDS MUCH LESS THAN WHAT I WAS SAYING.
YOU GONNA ADD THAT I DIDN'T, I MISSED THE NO, NO.
SHE'S GONNA EDIT WHEN TIME COMES.
I JUST WANNA THAT COVER YOU JOHN.
JUST ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION BEFORE WE VOTE, UM, IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FAR IS SMALL, BUT I WAS HERE WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED AND UH, PASSED THAT LAW AND THE IDEA WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO STOP BIG HOUSES AND BIG PROJECTS ON SMALL LOTS, OKAY? MM-HMM
AND SO, UM, FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STOP IN VILLAGE.
SO IT MAY BE DIMINISHING OR SMALL AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, BUT I JUST, UM, IT STILL MATTERS.
WANTED TO, IT STILL MATTERS, BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK WE CAN LIVE WITH IT.
BUT, UM, LET'S JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT IDEA THAT'S WHY WE PASSED IT.
FOR ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING, LET'S NOT GET ANY IDEAS ABOUT AND PUT BIG HOUSES ON SMALL LOTS.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS 111 FEET OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT FLOOR AREA, RIGHT? AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, THAT HELPS TO, YEAH, THANK YOU.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER 2223 ARIAN SHARON WALLOCK, 25 SOUTH CALUMET AVENUE.
RELIEF FROM STRICT APPLICATION OF VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 9 5 DASH 60 F1 CW, WHAT DO I SAY? W WITH 2 96, 2 96 55 A 2 95 DASH 68 F TWO, A 2 2 95 DASH 20 C TWO, AND 2 95 DASH 53 1 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A REAR YARD ADDITION AND PATIO AT THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT, AT ADDRESS.
I DON'T HAVE TO READ THROUGH ALL THE, YOU CAN SAY WITH THE VARIANCES AS LISTED WITH THE VARIANCES AS LI AS LISTED AND THE CONDITION THAT LINDA WILL AND THE CONDITION WILL BE, UM, THAT THE ADDITIONAL TERRACE AREA IN THE REQUIRED YARD UTILIZE PERVIOUS PAVERS AND THAT SUFFICIENT, UH, STORMWATER STORAGE BE PROVIDED TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE VILLAGE'S CONSULTING ENGINEER.
OKAY, JOSH? UH, I'LL SECOND THAT AND YOU AND, AND I'LL APPROVE
OKAY, EVERYBODY WANT TO GO HOME? IF THEY WANT TO? THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO, SO IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE YOU ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION.
JUST UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE SINCE THE FA CAME AFTER THE FACT, IF IT'S, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
SARAH, DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE AN INTRODUCTION AND THEN LET THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WELL, FIRST I, I'M GONNA LET YOU DO, BUT LET ME JUST, UH, OKAY.
GET THIS GUY'S NAME AND, UH, WELCOME
[Proposed Local Law C of 2023]
TO HASTINGS.UM, I'VE BEEN HERE A LOT LATELY,
I'M A PARTNER AT THE FIRM OF CU AND FADER IN WHITE PLAINS, 4 45 HAMILTON AVENUE, WHITE PLAINS.
AND, UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF ELECTRIC OWL STUDIOS AND, UM, DAN ROSENFELD IS HERE AS A PRINCIPAL AND I'VE GOT OTHER CONSULTANTS WITH ME IN THE EVENT QUESTIONS COME UP THAT NEED THEIR INPUT.
I CAN INTRODUCE THEM IF, IF NEEDED.
IF THEY HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING THEN THEY CAN REDO SOMETHING.
SAY, TELL US ABOUT WELL, WELCOME, WELCOME TO HASTINGS.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME BEFORE THIS BOARD AND, UM, ALTHOUGH WE ARE, UM, WE ARE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR FIRM AND YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.
SO LINDA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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TO BE HERE AND, UH, IT IS MY FIRST TIME, BUT BEFORE THIS BOARD, NOT I WELCOME DONE THIS A FEW TIMES, OTHERWISESO, UH, LET ME GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU.
SO, UM, AS, AND WE'VE DONE THIS A FEW TIMES, BUT THE, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PETITION TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR, UM, A ZONING AMENDMENT, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR A NEW USE CALLED A MULTIMEDIA PRODUCTION STUDIO.
UM, AS PART OF THE PROCESS, UH, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS REQUIRED TO REVIEW, TO REFER TO YOU ANY ZONING, TEXT AMENDMENT OR ZONING AMENDMENT.
UM, AND PER THE CODE, UM, YOU ARE TO REVIEW IT AND MAKE A REPORT STATING YOUR VIEWS AS TO THE DESIRABILITY AND PRACTICABILITY OF THE PROPOSAL.
SO THAT'S SORT OF YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AS TO THEIR PROPOSAL OR THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE ZONING, THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
BUT, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF TIED TOGETHER IN THIS CASE, KIND OF MIXES TOGETHER.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE ZONING IS DESIGNED TO PERMIT THEIR PROPOSAL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, UM, WANTED THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THE PROPOSAL TO YOU.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE, OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING WILL ALLOW.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IT? SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA LET THE, THE APPLICANT DO THAT AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ACTUAL ZONING TEXT OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, WHAT I'D FIRST LIKE TO DO IS JUST GIVE YOU A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE SITE AND, AND THEN INTRODUCE DAN ROSENFELD TO DESCRIBE, UM, THE USE ITSELF.
AND I'LL COME BACK THEN TO MORE PARTICULARS ABOUT THE SITE IF I CAN.
UM, SO THIS SITE IS THE, UH, SITE OF THE GRAHAM WINDHAM SCHOOL, WHICH IS A, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT IN AND OF ITSELF.
UM, IT'S FAIRLY STEEPLY SLOPED.
YOU CAN SEE PERHAPS THE TOPO LINES ON, ON THE PLANS HERE.
UH, AND YOU MAY, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IT IF YOU'VE GONE INSIDE THE SITE.
THERE'S A KIND OF A PLATEAU TOWARDS THE WESTERN SIDE OF IT ON WHICH THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING THAT'S FAIRLY ICONIC WITH A LARGE ROTUNDA.
AND, UH, YOU SEE THAT FROM, UH, THE DRIVEWAY WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU COME IN, THE SCHOOL ITSELF HAS SORT OF TEAL COVERED ROOFS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.
UM, THE SCHOOL IS GONNA REMAIN, AND WHAT THE SCHOOL'S INTERESTED IN DOING IS ESSENTIALLY MONETIZING THE VALUE OF THE LAND THAT IT HAS.
SO THE CONCEPT IS THAT WE WOULD DIVIDE, UH, INTO TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, INDIVIDUALLY OWNED THE SCHOOL WOULD CONTINUE TO OWN ABOUT SEVEN ACRES, AND WE'D, UH, ELECTRIC OWL WOULD OWN ABOUT 17 PLUS ACRES.
AND, UM, I'LL GET INTO THE PARTICULARS OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DAN ROSENFELD TO BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE TO YOU WHAT IS A MULTIMEDIA PRODUCTION STUDIO AND WHY HERE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'M DAN ROSENFELD, UH, CO-FOUNDER OF ELECTRIC OWL STUDIOS.
UM, EVEN THOUGH I'M 31 YEARS OLD, I'M CELEBRATING MY 25TH ANNIVERSARY IN THE FILM AND TV INDUSTRY.
AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A, A REALLY WONDERFUL CAREER SO FAR.
ELECTRIC OWL IS MY THIRD STUDIO PROJECT.
I, UM, GREW UP IN PHILADELPHIA AND I WORKED IN FILM THERE THEN LOS ANGELES FOR 15 YEARS.
WE JUST OPENED OUR FIRST ELECTRICAL STUDIOS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
UM, FOR THOSE WHO MAY MAYBE DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM, FOR THOSE WHO MAYBE DON'T KNOW WHAT A FILM PRODUCTION STUDIO DOES, WE, UH, ESSENTIALLY BUILD LARGE SOUND STAGES, PRODUCTION OFFICES AND ANCILLARY SPACE FOR THIRD PARTY FILMS AND TV SHOWS TO COME IN AND LEASE OUR SPACE AND, AND FILM THEIR TV SERIES OR FEATURE FILMS WITH US.
MAYBE COMMERCIALS SOMETIMES, BUT USUALLY, UM, ON THIS SCALE WE GET FILMS AND TV SHOWS.
SO, UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A SHORT TERM STAY FOR FILMS AND TV SHOWS.
A TV SHOW WILL, UH, FOR A FULL SEASON WILL BE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS, AND THEY WILL LEASE BETWEEN 40,000 AND 80,000 SQUARE FEET OF STAGES FOR A TV SHOW.
A LARGE SCALE MOVIE WOULD LEASE, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, STAGES AT 120,000 SQUARE FEET PLUS THE PRODUCTION OFFICES.
SO WE TAKE CARE OF THEM WHILE THEY'RE THERE.
WE MAKE SURE THE FACILITY IS OPERATING CORRECTLY AND THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THAT THE BUILDINGS AREN'T LEAKING AND, AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF.
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SO WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE PRODUCTION ENJOYS THEIR TIME AT THE STUDIO AND THEN THEY HELP THEM MOVE OUT AND BRING THE NEXT SHOW.AND THERE IS A RAMPING UP AND DOWN OF PRODUCTIONS AS THEY MOVE INTO A FILM STUDIO.
SO IN THE BEGINNING OF A, UM, A TV SHOW, THERE MAY BE FOUR PEOPLE THAT START THE PRODUCTION OFFICES.
UH, THEY'LL MOVE IN AND KIND OF GET THEIR PHONE SET UP AND GET THEIR WIFI GOING.
UH, THE PEOPLE IN THE PRODUCTION OFFICES ARE THE KIND OF PLANNING STAFF, THE PRODUCERS, THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR ASSISTANTS WHO ARE PLANNING OUT THIS WHOLE PRODUCTION.
AND THEN AS THE WEEKS MOVE, MOVE ON, THE PRODUCTION OFFICE WILL FILL UP, THEN THEY'LL BRING IN THEIR CONSTRUCTION TEAM.
NEXT THEY MOVE INTO THE MILL SPACE, WHICH IS, UH, JUST WAREHOUSE SPACE ON, ON THE LOT THAT, UH, THEY START TO BUILD SETS AND PROPS USING LUMBER AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THEM TOGETHER IN, IN THE MILL.
AND THEN THEY MOVE THOSE SETS INTO THE STAGES, UH, DURING WHICH TIME MORE CREW WILL START TO COME IN.
WHO, WHO ARE, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE WORD GAFFER, UH, OR GRIP IN A, IN A CREDITS OF A MOVIE OR TV SHOW.
THE GAFFERS ARE ELECTRICIANS AND GRIPS MOVE THINGS AROUND.
SO THEY, THEY COME IN AND THEY START BRINGING IN THE LIGHTS AND THE CABLES.
SO THE PRODUCTION WRAPS UP TO, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE SHOW IS, BETWEEN 80 TO 200 PEOPLE WHILE THEY'RE FILMING IS WHEN IT'S THE BUSIEST ON THE LOT.
UM, THEY'RE IN ALL THE BUILDINGS, THEY'RE FILMING IN THE STAGES.
SOMETIMES ONE DAY THEY MAY BE FILMING AT THE STUDIO LOT.
THE NEXT DAY THEY MAY GO ON LOCATION SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA TO GO FILM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THEN THE LOT IS KIND OF QUIET AGAIN.
UM, SO IT KIND OF RAMPS UP AND THEN RAMPS BACK DOWN AT THE END.
WHEN THEY TAKE ALL THEIR SETS OUT OF THE STAGES, THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, RECYCLE THOSE.
THEY BRING EVERYTHING OUT AND THEN THE, THE CIRCUS LEAVES TOWN AND THE NEXT GROUP COMES IN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF WHAT A FILM STUDIO LIKE OURS DOES.
UM, EVERYTHING TAKES PLACE INSIDE THE BUILDINGS.
UM, UH, IT'S VERY RARE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR CONFIGURATION.
WE DON'T HAVE A BACK LOT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BUILD OUTDOOR SETS.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN ATLANTA AND WE DIDN'T HAVE IT WITH OUR PREVIOUS STUDIO EITHER.
SO EVERYTHING'S CONTAINED INSIDE THE BUILDINGS AND ESSENTIALLY OUR STAFF JUST TAKES CARE OF THE PRODUCTION TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A SAFE, UH, EASY TIME FILMING THEIR SHOW.
SO WE EVALUATED THE SITE FOR, FOR DESIGN AND LAYOUT.
AND AS LINDA CORRECTLY NOTED, THE ZONING THAT WE SUBMITTED IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR WAS CRAFTED TO ENABLE US TO HAVE SIX SOUND STAGES, UM, AND THREE MILL BUILDINGS, ALL OF WHICH ARE HIGHLY INSULATED SO THAT IT'S QUIET INSIDE WHEN THE FILMING HAS TAKEN PLACE.
AND WE ADDED ADDITIONAL, UH, INSULATION TO THE MILL BUILDING.
SO IT'S QUIET OUTSIDE AND NOT, NOT IMPACTING ANYONE ON THE SITE RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN VARIOUS STATES OF REPAIR OR DISREPAIR.
THEY'VE BEEN MODIFIED SIGNIFICANTLY AS IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL AND IT WAS KIND OF PATCHED TOGETHER AND CUT UP FOR DIFFERENT USES.
WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE ICONIC BUILDING THAT I DESCRIBED BEFORE.
AND, AND TWO OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE TOP UPPER CAMPUS AREA AS WELL AS THE BUILDING THAT'S AT THE GATE, UM, TO BEGIN WITH, THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS, AND I THINK THERE ARE THREE OTHERS ARE, UH, PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
UM, I WANNA SEE IF I CAN GO TO, UM, THE PLAN.
THIS IS EXISTING, UM, SITE AND JUST SHOWING YOU THE STEEP SLOPED AREA AS I WAS MENTIONING, IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY CHALLENGED AS FAR AS SLOPING AREAS ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER.
AND TO THE FAR LEFT, IT DROPS DOWN TO THE OLD CROTON AQUEDUCT.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GONNA BE BUILT BACK THERE.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, THERE ARE HILLS, UH, THAT, THAT LIMIT WHERE YOU'VE GOT FLAT AREA FOR, UM, STUDIOS TO BE LAID OUT.
UM, SO THIS IS THE DESIGN FOR THE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE'VE NEEDED TO DO IS TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO BRING VEHICLES AND TRUCKS UP FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING AND CIRCULATE WITH THE APPROPRIATE RADII.
UM, THE BUILDINGS ON THE SOUTH ARE THE SOUND STAGES.
THERE ARE NO WINDOWS ON THE WEST ON THE SOUTHERLY SIDE OR ON THE WESTERLY SIDE.
THEY'RE ALL CLOSED AND INSULATED.
THERE'S NO DESIRE TO HAVE LIGHT INSIDE AND NO, UH, PROPOSAL TO HAVE ANY OPENINGS ON THE SOUTH SIDE EXCEPT WHAT MAY BE NEEDED FOR EMERGENCY EGRESS PURPOSES AND CONFORMING TO BUILDING AND FIRE CODE.
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THE, THE BUILDINGS ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE, THE TWO, UH, THAT ARE CONNECTED JUST TO THE WEST OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ARE MILL BUILDINGS.AND THE BUILDING ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE IS ALSO A MILL BUILDING.
THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT DAN SPOKE ABOUT WHERE, UH, SETS ARE CONSTRUCTED AND WORK IS BEING DONE.
THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH, UH, THE BIG RECTANGLE ON THE NORTH IS A PARKING STRUCTURE.
UH, THREE LEVELS OF PARKING STRUCTURES IN SUNK ESSENTIALLY INTO THE GROUND SO THAT IT STANDS NO HIGHER THAN ABOUT 18 FEET, 15 TO 18 FEET.
THE LOWEST LEVEL WILL PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE SCHOOL, A HUNDRED AND SOME ODD PARKING SPACES.
AND THE OTHER TWO LEVELS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, ACCESSED VIA THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF RATHER THAN INTERNAL RAMPS WILL PROVIDE PARKING FOR, UH, THE STUDIO USE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE A, A DESTINATION PLACE THAT IN WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE THERE, AS DAN WAS DESCRIBING FOR FIVE MONTHS OR SO, CAN FEEL A SENSE OF LOCATION THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE INDUSTRIAL STUDIO TYPE OF OPERATION THAT, UM, OTHERWISE IS IN THE AREA AND LIONSGATE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND ALSO LIONSGATE, WHICH IS A STUDIO, AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD IN YONKERS, DOES ITS OWN FILM PRODUCTION FOR ITS OWN PURPOSES AND ITS OWN MARKETING.
THIS IS REALLY FOR INDEPENDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING TO FIND A PLACE THAT'S STATE OF THE ART AND, UM, UM, SUSTAINABLY ORIENTED.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE GREEN ROOFS ON THE MILL BUILDINGS.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE OUTDOOR AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT AND ENJOY THE RIVERVIEW FROM THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT YOU, YOU WANNA SEE YOU DETAILS OF THE, OF THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
UM, YOU WANNA SEE A FEW OTHER RENDERINGS JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE? SURE.
WELL, JERRY SAID NO, HE'S, NO, JERRY SAID NO, NO, NO, NO.
I WAS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE INSIDE THE BUILDINGS YOU SAID? NO, NOT INSIDE, NOT INSIDE THE BUILDING.
I THOUGHT I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS.
NO, NO, THIS IS, UM, NO, THESE ARE THE RENDERINGS.
THIS IS WHAT THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AS I SAID THAT THE BUILDING AT THE ENTRY IS BEING PRESERVED.
UM, SORRY, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW.
YOU CAN SEE THE STUDIO BUILDINGS, UH, AND, AND THE, UH, SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE THE TEAL ROOF BUILDINGS HERE.
THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING AT THE BACK HERE IS GONNA REMAIN.
AND THE GARAGE ITSELF IS, NO, NO BUILDING IS TALLER THAN, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ITSELF THAT STANDS ABOVE.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR, UM, THERE'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ALSO.
WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE IT SO THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN AREA AND A WALKING CAMPUS FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BE OUTSIDE, BUT NOT FOR ANY FILMING TO OCCUR OUTSIDE.
JUST FOR A SENSE OF, OF PLACE AND APPRECIATION OF THE LOCATION, UH, AS WE HAVE IT.
UM, I'VE, I'VE GOT MUCH MORE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S RELEVANT.
YOU MEAN RENDERINGS? I'M SORRY? SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
MORE LIKE THIS? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE FOR RENDERINGS THEMSELVES.
I MEAN, I'VE GOT SECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S REALLY POTENTIALLY MORE SITE PLAN ORIENTED THAN WHAT YOU MAY WANT.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHOW YOU WHATEVER YOU WANNA SEE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SEE ANYMORE.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERHEAD, UM, KIND OF FULL CAMPUS RENDER? YEAH.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN, WHICH ONE? IT'S, THERE'S ANOTHER, ACTUALLY THAT'S ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN, RIGHT? THAT'S, AND YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN ROOF ON THE LOWER LEFT.
AND THIS IS FROM THE RIVER SIDE, UM, SORT OF A DRONE FLIGHT LOOKING DOWN, BUT ESSENTIALLY FROM THE SOUTHWEST RIVER DIRECTION.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER MIDDLE HERE, A SITTING AREA AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE GARAGE SITS LOW ON THE SITE, WELL BELOW THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND THE PEDESTRIAN AREA THAT I'M MENTIONING WITH THE TWO BUILDINGS, YOU CAN SEE THESE TWO BUILDINGS SORT OF ALMOST CENTER ON THE, ON THE, UH, IMAGE THAT ARE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, IMPROVED.
UM, BUT KEPT IN STYLE AND CHARACTER.
WHAT'S THEIR PURPOSE GONNA BE? YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING? YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE PRODUCTION OFFICES KIND OF LIKE ON THE LOWS FOR YEAH.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PLAN IF, UNLESS YOU NEED TO, UNLESS YOU WANNA LOOK AT THIS MORTGAGE.
AND I HAVE ONE, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AHEAD, JUST ABOUT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GREEN ROOF THAT IS ON THE, KIND OF IN THE FOREGROUND HERE? YES.
HERE, UM, THAT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE
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BY THE PUBLIC, CORRECT? RIGHT.THAT, THAT'S SIMPLY A GREEN ROOF.
THE WHOLE SITE IS REALLY GONNA BE SECURED FOR AND NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, BUT, BUT THE GREEN ROOF WILL NOT BE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE ON THE SITE USING IT EITHER.
IT'S REALLY FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
AND, AND THE, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON THE STUDIO BUILDINGS ARE THE SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE.
UM, THEY WEREN'T RENDERED INTO IT, BUT THE IDEA IS TO PRODUCE AS MUCH SOLAR ENERGY AS WE CAN, UM, TO, TO HELP IN WHAT ELECTRICITY THE SITE'S GONNA USE.
AND YOU ASKED ABOUT YEAH, JUST THE, THE SITE PLAN.
UH, HOW MANY LOADING DOCKS ARE? UM, SO THE LOADING FOR THE BUILDING WILL PRIMARILY BE INSIDE INTERNAL.
THE TRUCKS WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PULL INSIDE THE BUILDING AND UNLOAD AND THEN, UH, DEPART.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE LOADING DOCKS.
UM, AND THE TRUCKS ARE NOT GENERALLY ARE NOT GONNA REMAIN ON SITE AFTER, AFTER DOING THAT.
AND WHAT'S THE ASSUMPTION FOR THE SIZE OF TRUCK THAT WILL BE THE BUILDINGS WILL ACCOMMODATE? IS THERE, YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
THE, THE MAJORITY OF TRUCKS ARE, ARE BOX TRUCKS TYPICAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 12 FOOT, 10 FOOT BOX, 12 FOOT, YEAH.
WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM SIZE TRUCK? BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU GUYS FIGURED THAT OUT.
WHAT THE MAXIMUM SIZE TRUCK THAT CAN FIT INTO ONE OF THESE? OH, WELL THE, THE DOOR, THE ELEPHANT DOORS ARE 20, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIT INTO THE BUILDINGS.
SO LET ME ASK JOHN CANNING, WHO'S OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT OKAY.
JOHN CANNING WITH KIMBERLY HORN, ONE NORTH LEXINGTON AVENUE WHITE PLAINS.
SO THE SITE HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A WB 50 TRUCK.
IT'S A 55 FOOT LONG, UH, TRACTOR TRAILER.
SO IT'S NOT THE, AS BIG AS THE BIGGEST ONES.
AND IT IS, THAT'S FROM NOSE TO TAIL.
I MEAN, NOT THE BOX FROM NOSE TO TAIL.
AND IT'S THE LARGEST VEHICLE THAT'S PERMITTED ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK CITY.
AND IT, AND IT'S ALSO BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE FIRE TRUCKS, WHICH ARE SORT OF SIMILAR IN SIZE IN, UH, SO THE RADIO ON THE SITE, UH, HAS BEEN MADE SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ENSURE THAT IF WE NEED TO BRING A TRUCK LIKE THAT IN, WE CAN.
AND WHAT DAN WAS SAYING IS MOST OF THE TRUCKS THAT ARE USED ARE MUCH SMALLER THAN THAT.
BUT DOES EACH OF THE SIX STUDIOS ASSUME THAT THAT SIZE TRUCK COULD FIT INTO IT IF NEEDED? YES.
THAT WAS A YES IN CASE THE MICROPHONE DIDN'T PICK IT UP.
SO ALL THE SETBACKS, ALL THE COVERAGE, ALL THE FAR, UH, WAS DES IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.
THESE, UM, SOUND STUDIOS REQUIRE 40 FOOT CLEAR FLOOR TO CEILING WITHOUT SUPPORT COLUMNS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR BEING ABLE TO SET UP SCAFFOLDING AND LIGHTING UP ABOVE AND TO HAVE A STAGE AND FLEXIBILITY INTERNALLY.
SO WHEN WE CALCULATED THE FAR AND WE JUST SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE COUNTED IT IN THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU CALCULATE FAR FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE DOUBLE COUNTED THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT.
WE DID THIS, WE ALSO COUNTED THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
AND, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DESIGNED THIS SO THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOUR, THE REGIMEN IS IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, JUST TO GET INTO THE ZONING.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT? IT'S BEEN VERY, THANK YOU.
UM, SO LET'S, LET'S JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ZONING ITSELF IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, AND MAYBE LINDA CAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME OR CHARLES OR EVEN YOU.
THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH SHALL BE 150 FEET.
HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO THIS ZONE AND WHY IT'S SO MOST, MOST ZONING HAS A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH.
SO YOUR MINIMUM LOT WIDTH WOULD BE LIKE THE WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY, LIKE ON THE BROADWAY FRONTAGE.
AND BECAUSE YOU, YOU, IT'S TO AVOID HAVING SOMETHING SQUEEZED INTO A VERY NARROW LOT, A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS A PRETTY STANDARD ZONING CRITERIA.
BUT LIKE WHO DO WE EVEN HAVE LOTS IN THAT, ANYWHERE IN THAT? WELL, IT'S ONE.
THAT'S A CRITERIA FOR THE, FOR A LOT.
IN ORDER FOR A STUDIO TO BE APPROVED ON A LOT IT HAS, THE LOT HAS TO MEET THAT IT HAS TO BE, HAS A WIDTH OF A HUNDRED FEET, CORRECT? NO LENGTH, NO NOTHING.
IT HAS A SIZE, A MINIMUM LOT SIZE 10 AN MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
AND, AND, AND THE DESIGN OF THIS, UM, ZONING WAS AS A, AN OVERLAY DISTRICT SO THAT IT'S NOT A SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICABLE TO
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EVERY R 20 PROPERTY, BUT IT'S A LEGISLATIVE DISCRETIONARY DECISION BY YOUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS TO WHETHER THE SITE ITSELF IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SORT OF USE.WHICH IS A GOOD, IS A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE MEMO THAT PAT CLEARY, THE VILLAGE'S PLANNER DID TALKING ABOUT THE OPTIONS AND WHY, UM, WE BELIEVED THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION FROM THE VILLAGE'S STANDPOINT TO DO IT AS AN OVERLAY.
SO WHAT, HOW, HOW TALL IS THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING? I THINK IT'S ABOUT 60 FEET.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S THE TOP OF THE, OF THE HILL I'VE GOT, UH, IT SITS AT A HIGH, THE HIGHEST POINT ON THE SITE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IT'S, IS IT 60 FEET TO THE, TO THE CROWN OF THE ROTUNDA OR IS IT 60 FEET? IT DOESN'T MAKE, THAT'S FINE.
SO, AND, AND YET THE, THE STUDIOS, UM, YOU SAY ARE NO TALLER THAN 40 FEET INTERNAL HEIGHT.
WE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABOUT 53 FEET OR SO ON THE OUTSIDE 55 FEET BECAUSE YOU NEED THE STRUCTURE OUTSIDE THAT 40 FOOT CLEAR TO SUPPORT THAT SPAN.
AND, AND THEN THERE'LL BE, UH, PVC, YOU KNOW, UH, PHOTOVOLTAIC CELL SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF.
UM, SO I THINK WE, WE PUT IN, UM, THAT THE HEIGHT IS 55 55 FEET.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO TRY AND SET THOSE STUDIOS LO LOW AND FOLLOW THE CONTOURS SO THAT THEY'RE LESS VISIBLY THAT HIGH FROM OUTSIDE THE SITE.
BUT THAT IS THE HEIGHT WHEN YOU MEASURE IT UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO THE BUILDING COVERAGE LOOKS FINE, IN MY OPINION.
UM, MAYBE WE CAN TALK, JOSH, ABOUT THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OF, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE BUILDINGS OR SOMETHING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IMPORTANT.
LIKE WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THE RAIN AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WE HAVE SIGN RIGHT NOW THE SITE HAS VIRTUALLY NO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE NOT ONLY GREEN ROOFS, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON THE SITE ITSELF OF SIGNIFICANCE.
GOING TO BE JUST, IT'S UNDER REVIEW BY, YEAH.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN ONE ROUND OF REVIEW.
BUT THE VILLAGES ENGINEERS IS ALRIGHT.
SO LOOKING VERY CAREFULLY AT THAT
SO THEN WE WERE, I WAS HAVING SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE, WITH THE ATTORNEY BEFORE THE, UM, THE CASE WAS CALLED.
UM, I, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTOOD.
THE FRONT YARD IS THE 150 FEET DEEP FROM BROADWAY.
WE'RE GONNA, SO THEN THE SIDE YARDS ARE 50 FEET.
BUT THEN FROM SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT I SAW, UM, THE DAY BEFORE, UM, YESTERDAY, SO TODAY TUESDAY, IT LOOKS TO ME THAT, UM, THE STUDIO FIVE AND SIX, UM, NEED LESS THAN 50 FEET.
THEY'RE LIKE THEY'RE 38 I WAS TOLD.
AT THAT POINT, UM, THERE IS A BUFFER AREA NOT OWNED BY US, BUT A BUFFER AREA BETWEEN OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AND DUDLEY STREET.
YEAH, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT JUST TO, FOR MY OWN, UM, EDUCATION.
UM, RIVER POINT OWNS THE, SOME PROPERTY ALONG, UM, ALONG DUDLEY STREET.
SO RIVER POINT CONDOMINIUMS, WHICH IS THE TOWNHOUSES.
THEY OWN, UM, THEY OWN OUT TO DUDLEY AND SORT OF THAT PIECE.
IT'S PART OF THEIR OPEN SPACE AREA.
IT'S, THEY WERE A CLUSTERED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS HERE, THIS BETWEEN THE STREET.
I, JERRY, I CAN SHOW YOU MR. THE CHAIRMAN I, I PUT ON, ON THE SCREEN.
THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WHAT, WHAT DO THEY JUST, WHAT DO THEY TAKE? TAKE THE HAND.
WHAT DO THEY OWN? JERRY, YOU WANNA HAND ME THAT AND I'LL KIND OF MARK IT ON THERE FOR YOU.
THANK, I THINK I KNOW, BUT I DON'T.
SO, UM, IF I MAY, THIS, THIS IS DUDLEY STREET HERE CALLED OUT OVER HERE.
THIS IS THE DISTANCE THAT RIVER POINT OWNS, AND THIS IS THE, IT'S 32 FEET ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT FROM THE SOUND STAGE TO THE, UM, SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
THERE'S, UM, FROM THAT POINT TO RIVER, RIVER POINT HAD ASKED THIS AT THE LAST BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEET RIVER EDGE.
RIVER EDGE IS THE, IS THE APARTMENTS RIVER POINT IS THE CONDOS.
THIS SAYS RIVER POINT HOMEOWNERS ON SURVEY, RIGHT.
THE TOWNHOUSES OWNS THAT RIVER.
RIVER POINT IS IN HASTINGS AND RIVER EDGE IS IN YONKERS, RIGHT? THAT'S NO RIVER.
RIVER IS THAT PAUSE? NO, THAT'S RIVER
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POINT.THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE AQUEDUCT.
SO WE MEASURED THE DISTANCE FROM THE POOL THAT'S, THAT'S HERE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE EVEN THEY HAD A POOL THAT'S BEHIND THE TOWNHOUSES WE WERE ASKED ABOUT.
YEAH, THE TOWNHOUSES ARE OVER TOWNHOUSES.
THAT'S THE CO-OPS THAT'S, THIS IS THE CO-OP.
THAT'S THE APARTMENT BUILDING.
WE GO IN THE POOL, THE POOL'S IN HASTINGS, BUT THE APARTMENT BUILDING'S IN YONKERS.
SO IF SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY IS IN HASTINGS, YOU MEAN THE, THE TALLER ONES IN THE, IN THE RIVER POINT OF COURSE IS A CONDOS.
SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS ASKED WAS WHAT'S THE DISTANCE FROM THE SOUND STAGE TO WHAT WE DID IS TO THE, UM, SOUTHERLY EDGE OF DUDLEY STREET.
IT'S 150 FEET FROM OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE TO THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF DUDLEY STREET.
WITH ANOTHER 32 FEET BETWEEN US AND THE STUDIO ITSELF.
AND THERE'S LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ALONG THIS EDGE.
AND AS I SAID, NO WINDOWS, NO OPENINGS.
YOU WON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS FROM THAT AREA.
IT'S 165 FEET FROM THIS CORNER TO THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF DUDLEY STREET.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF DISTANCE.
THE, THE FAR, THE FOUR AREA RATIO IS 0.75, UM, WHICH IS ALSO BIG, BUT, UM, AND IS THE LOT AREA, IS THAT THE 10, IT'S THE LOT AREA IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 17, CORRECT? IT'S A MINIMUM OF 10 UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S 17 IS WHAT WE'D ACTUALLY HAVE.
YOU SEE YOU HAVE 17 ACRES, RIGHT? WE HAVE, WE'D HAVE 17 AND THEN THERE'D BE SEVEN PLUS FOR THE SCHOOL.
OUT OF THE 25 THAT I'D MENTIONED THE SITE IS, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, SO WHAT'S THE LOT AREA? I MEAN, WE ARE FAR SET UP TO IT'S 17 POINT SOMETHING IS THE LOT AREA.
SO THE LOT AREA IS 717.3 ACRES.
SO YOU WANTED TO FEET, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? NO, NO.
WELL, IT'S USUALLY IN FEET, BUT 700, THOSE BIG NUMBERS.
SO SEVEN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT IT IS IF IT'S 17 ACRES.
SO WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WHEN YOU ADDED THE FARA FEW YEARS AGO, IT WAS DONE VERY MUCH LOOKING AT A RESIDENTIAL OF FAR.
UM, NOT REALLY FOR COMMERCIAL USE LIKE THIS, BUT WE WERE, THEY WERE ASKED TO, UM, INCLUDE IN THE ZONING AND FAR.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THE LOT AREA, WAS IT 17 ACRES, SO MM-HMM
AND, UM, ALL NEW DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES STRUCTURES SUCH AS GATES SHELBY BE SET BACK AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE FRONTAGE ALONG BROADWAY.
SO THAT'S, UM, SO LEMME GO BACK TO THAT.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHERE THE BUILDING IS THERE? THAT I'M GONNA SAVE? SO THAT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING? YEAH, THAT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.
UM, DID I INTERRUPT YOU? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
THE, THE MILL BUILDING IS SET BACK 150 FEET RIGHT NOW IN THAT CORNER.
A PORTION OF THAT CORNER IS IN YONKERS.
IT KIND OF CUTS ACROSS MM-HMM
AND RIGHT NOW WHAT'S THERE IS A TENNIS COURT, SOME TENNIS COURTS, AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THAT IS A GYMNASIUM BUILDING.
BUT WE'RE WHERE IS THAT, WHERE IS THAT ON? WE DON'T HAVE NO, I'M SAYING WHAT'S EASIEST.
DO YOU WANNA SHOW WHERE IT IS? THERE'S A PIECE THAT'S IN YONKERS.
THIS? YEAH, THERE'S, OH, THERE UP IN FRONT OKAY.
IS LINE WITH YONKERS AND HASTINGS.
AND AS YOU DRIVE BY, YOU SEE THERE'S THE TENNIS COURTS AND THERE'S THAT BIG GYM BUILDING THAT WILL BE REMOVED
AND WE'RE REMOVING THE TENNIS COURTS.
WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE IT AS LANDSCAPING.
AND, AND, UH, WE'VE KEPT THE MILL BUILDING 150 FEET FROM, UH, BROADWAY.
FROM BROADWAY AND MORE THAN 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
LET ME JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH ZONING.
UM, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, BUT IT JUST IN TERMS OF, UM, OUR COMMENTS, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE REDUCTION IN THE YARD SETBACK HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN VERY, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL A HECK OF A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, UH, PROJECT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE IT TO A PLANNING BOARD, SINCE WE DO YARD SETBACKS ALL THE TIME.
MAYBE THE ZONING, ZONING BOARD SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WAS THAT, UM, THAT JUST, THAT WON'T, THAT WON'T AFFECT YOU AT ALL? I'M JUST, TRUST ME.
UM, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL BOARD.
IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD NOT BE A VARIANCE REQUIREMENT THOUGH.
IT'S, IT'S A SORT OF A FLEXIBLE OPPORTUNITY RATHER THAN REQUIRING TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF AN AREA VARIANCE FOR THAT.
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STANDARD THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD APPLY AS SET FORTH HERE.THERE'S ACTUALLY CRITERIA FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO APPLY IT.
THEY CAN ONLY DO IT IF IT'S FOR AN EXISTING PRE-EXISTING BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, UM, OR ANY NEW BUILDING.
SO AS FAR
THAT'S IN THIS CASE IT'S THAT VACANT LOT.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S GIVING THE PLANNING BOARD DOESN'T HAVE FULL DISCRETION.
I, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE AS MUCH DISCRETION AS YOU HAVE ON A VARIANCE.
I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT PROBABLY NEVER HAPPENED, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN MY COMMENTS.
SO THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK THAT EVER IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOT JUST THE ZONING, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS GONNA DO FOR HASTINGS BECAUSE THEY ALL REALLY RUN TOGETHER.
SO IN MY, UH, OPINION ONLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE SCHOOLS, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, THE PARKING'S GONNA BE ON SITE, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, IT'S GONNA, UM, I HOPE, UM, GENDER, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL TRANSIT IN THE VILLAGE TO HELP OUR SHOPS AND OUR DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND, UH, FINALLY, BUT NOT THE LEAST, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT IT'LL HELP US WITH OUR TAXES, IT AS WE NEED COMMERCIAL.
WE HAVE VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL IN HASTINGS.
AND THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, ONLY IS THE PERFECT WAY, UM, TO REMEDY TO SOMEWHAT, UM, THAT PROBLEM.
UH, FINALLY, AND IT'S A GOOD, IN 1890, GRAHAM WINDHAM WAS, UH, RIGHT AROUND ON THAT YEAR WAS STARTED, IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CHILDCARE AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND MAYBE IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, WE'VE RECEIVED NO TAXES FROM THEM.
UM, I HAVE TO SAY THIS ONLY BECAUSE, UM, I'M ALSO IN THE POLICE COMMISSION.
IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE FOR, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THERE.
UM, UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN TO BOOK TYPES, BUT THEY WERE CALLED DOWN THERE A LOT WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE AMBULANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, AMBULANCE, YOU NAME IT.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE POSITIVE THINGS, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHY, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, THIS OVERLAY.
AND I'M JUST HOPING, AND I'M SURE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS FIGURED THIS OUT TOO, THAT YOU HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS WHILE YOU'RE HERE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? OR ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ZONING? I THINK MY, MY QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ZONING IS ABOUT USE, WHICH IS ABOUT ACTIVITY, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT THE TRUCKS.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU SPEAK JUST A LOUDER? SORRY.
I WAS JUST SAYING ZONING, YOU KNOW, IS ABOUT USE, WHICH IS THEREFORE ABOUT ACTIVITY AND THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TRUCKS.
AND SO I SEE ON THE TABLE, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION MORE FOR YOU, LINDA MM-HMM
THAN, THAN ACTUALLY FOR THE, THE TEAM, BECAUSE I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY CLEAR ON THE TABLE.
THEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT CAR PARKING MM-HMM
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN, THAT GOES INTO THIS ABOUT TRUCK TRAFFIC? I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF STUDIES, AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING THOSE STUDIES
SO I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT EITHER, BUT I AM ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, THAT THAT WILL BE A, THOSE ARE VERY LARGE TRUCKS.
IT'S NOT A UPS TRUCK THAT'S PULLING IN AND OUT TO SIX DIFFERENT STUDIOS AT, AT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT TIMES IN A RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE WAS, UM, A TRAFFIC, FULL TRAFFIC STUDY DONE.
THE VILLAGE RETAINED ITS OWN, UM, TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO REVIEW THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS BACK AND FORTH, AND I, I THINK AT THIS POINT, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WAS SATISFIED THAT ALL OF THEIR COMMENTS HAD BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS ALL THAT INFORMATION.
THEY WENT THROUGH DETAILS ON THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS THEY ANTICIPATE, UM, THE TRUCK ROUTE
UM, AND, UM, BUT HOW IS THAT CODIFIED IN THE, IS IT CODIFIED IN THE ZONING AND CAN IT BE, IT DOESN'T REALLY CODIFY INTO ZONING.
THEY DID, YOU DID AGREE TO A POST TRAFFIC STUDY.
POST-CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND, AND JUST SO THAT, UM, THE BOARD HAS MORE INFORMATION, UM, THE, THE VARIOUS PHASES OF THE PRODUCTION THAT DAN ROSENFELD DESCRIBED, UH, ARE ALSO, UM, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN TRUCKS WOULD BE DELIVERING THINGS AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN TRUCKS ARE REALLY NOT ACTIVE AT ALL.
AND, AND SO IT'S NOT A, A DAILY CONTINUOUS FLOW
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EITHER OF PASSENGER VEHICLES OR TRUCK TRAFFIC.AND THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WAS STUDIED WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO THEY COME ON, WHAT TIME, WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? AND THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WE AGREED TO AS POST-CONSTRUCTION ANALYSIS.
I'M SMILING BECAUSE HE DID DESCRIBE IT AS A CIRCUS, WHICH IS A, A BIG FLURRY OF ACTIVITY.
I LIVE, I LIVE ON BROADWAY AND I JUST DEALT WITH THE BROADWAY ROADWORK, WHICH YES.
I WENT BLAME THE STATE I HAVE.
UM, AND, AND YES, WHILE IT WAS TEMPORARY, IT WAS INCREDIBLY DISRUPTIVE.
SO ALL I, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
I THINK THE TERM CIRCUS WAS MORE A MATTER OF PACKING UP THE TENTS THAN THE ACTUAL, THAT MEANS A LOT OF CONTINUOUS ACTIVITY.
THAT MEANS A LOT OF TRUCKS ONLY AT THE TAIL END WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE BREAKING IT DOWN AND RIGHT.
REMOVING IT AT THE TAIL END OF THE FIVE OR SIX MONTH PROCESS.
AND AT THE BEGINNING, SOMEWHERE AROUND THE THIRD MONTH WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING THINGS ONSITE.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE LIKE, MULTIPLE TRUCKS COMING IN DAY AND, AND, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DAYS, IT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS DESCRIBED.
AND THAT IS WHAT WAS REVIEWED AND WILL, WHAT WILL BE VETTED ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
AND THE ZONING, UM, DOES LIMIT TO ONLY TWO PRODUCTIONS AT A TIME ON SITE.
SO THERE, THERE ARE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN HERE, SO MAYBE REMOVED, THEY MAY BE IN ALL SIX.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SIX DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
MOST OF TWO ENTITIES, THEY MAY BE USING ALL SIX STAGES.
SO THERE WERE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS PUT IN.
WE HAVE NO OUTDOOR FILMING ON THE SITE UNLESS THEY GET A VILLAGE FILM PERMIT.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA DO ALL THEIR FOOD PREP.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, FOOD PREP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
UM, SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA, AT LOWER LEVEL HAS A CAFETERIA IN IT THAT WE'RE GONNA USE AS THE PLACE FOR PROVIDING FOOD SERVICE.
SO THERE WERE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, UM, OKAY.
SO THAT'S THE MECHANISM THROUGH ZONING.
IT'S THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
I THINK THAT WAS JUST, THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION, IF ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.
SO LET'S HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THAT WANT BE HEARD.
I, I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN HERE AND YOU WANNA HEAR FROM 'EM.
I'M JUST, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
I'D LIKE TO
I, I THINK WE, THEY'RE HERE AND I THINK, UM, UM, JUST TO BE, FOR TRANSPARENCY AND FOR, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
AND SO GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, UH, TRY TO BE, YOU KNOW, HIT THE POINTS.
AND IF SOMETHING, SOMETHING'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN.
YOU CAN JUST COME UP AND SAY, I AGREE WITH THIS, THAT, OR SOMETHING ELSE.
I LIKE YOUR COMPUTER JUST TO KEEP IT GOING.
UH, DAVID SKOLNIK 47 HILLSIDE.
UH, THANKS FOR INVITING US TO SPEAK.
UM, I WANTED TO FIRST SAY THAT I WANTED YOU TO APPRECIATE THAT THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION TO BE HERE, GIVEN THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS MEETING, THERE IS THE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING THIS EVENING.
THERE'S THE PARKS COMMISSION, THERE'S ALSO, UM, DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE MEETING, ALL OF WHICH AT SOME LEVEL INTEREST ALL OF US.
SO IT'S A HARD CHOICE, BUT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT I AM, I HAVE SPOKEN AT DIFFERENT BOARDS IN THE PAST, UM, EXPRESSING MY GENUINE CONFUSION ABOUT HOW ZONING IS DONE IN GENERAL, HOW IT IS DONE HERE.
UH, THE, THE TITLE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
SO THERE IS, I SENSE SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT ABOUT THE WORK YOU DID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY CREATING ZONING, WHICH I TAKE THE OVERLAY TO BE.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE LEVEL OF, OF, UH, MY CONFUSION.
SECONDLY, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I BELIEVE, UM, THE ATTORNEY, UH, IN PASSING MENTIONED SOMETHING, UH, IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION THAT IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, THE ZONING WAS TIED, UM, CLOSELY TO THE PROPOSAL ITSELF.
SO THE ZONING IS NOT AN ABSTRACTION, UH, THAT YOU ARE COMING UP WITH.
IT'S, THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP, UH, MAYBE MORE SO THAN IN OTHER CASES TO THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL, WHICH IS WHY THE GENTLEMEN, UM, WERE DOING A SHORTENED VERSION OF THEIR, THE PRESENTATION THEY'VE DONE, UH, AT OTHER COMMITTEES.
UM, BUT WHAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, UM, A LITTLE BIT, I'M, I'M GOING TO A MOMENT TO THE ACTUAL
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DOCUMENT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, POSTED IN THE AGENDA AND THE FIRST UNDER MULTIMEDIA PRODUCTION STUDIO OVERLAY DISTRICT PURPOSE.AND THE FIRST THING THAT THE, IT SAYS UNDER THE PURPOSE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT REFERS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF TWO, UH, 2011, A NUMBER OF TIMES.
AND THIS, I, IT JUST HAS, CONCEPTUALLY I FIND IT A LITTLE BIT TROUBLING BECAUSE THE CON, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ALWAYS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VISIONING GOING ON WITH THAT DOCUMENT.
THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS THAT WE'RE IN THE THROES THE MIDST OF UPDATING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WHEN A SOMEONE COMES TO YOU AND REFERENCES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT'S NOT ONLY THIS, UH, PROJECT, IT WAS MENTIONED A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH ONE WAR BURDEN, UH, IT SETS UP A LITTLE BIT OF A FLAG FOR ME AS TO WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING, UH, TRADED ON THIS CONCEPTION OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT IS IT IMPLIED, UH, THAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS LOOKING UPON FAVORABLY.
UM, ONE QUESTION IS, I'M TRYING STILL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD PERMIT IN TERMS OF BUILDING OUT, IN TERMS OF THE WAY IT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THIS PROJECT, HOW IT DIFFERS FROM WITH WHAT THIS PROJECT, UM, WILL, WILL DO TO THE AREA.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SPEAKING, I THINK YOU CAN PROJECT WHAT THE ECONOMIC OR THE VARIOUS BENEFITS ECONOMICALLY COULD BE AS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED AND AS TO SOME DEGREE YOU'VE THOUGHT THROUGH.
BUT THAT'S, UH, BUT THAT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT CLEAR AND IT HASN'T, AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKED THROUGH IN DETAIL WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS, UH, AND, AND HOW THE ECONOMICS, UH, CAN, CAN VARY.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE IDEA OF, IF WE DID NOT APPROVE, IF YOU DID NOT APPROVE OR MOVE FORWARD, THIS IDEA OF THE OVERLAY, WHAT IS IT THAT THE VILLAGE CAN DO WITHIN, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING WITH THIS SPACE? AND THE ANSWER MIGHT BE NOTHING.
BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET A BETTER GRASP OF.
UM, THE VISION, REVISED VISION, UM, THE, I'M ALMOST DONE.
UM, THERE WAS JUST TOWARDS THE END, UM, A MENTION OF, UH, A COMMITMENT TO DO A POST, UM, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND, UM, I LISTENED THAT CAME UP AT AN EARLIER MEETING.
UM, WHILE I APPRECIATE IT, I'M NOT, BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN, I'M NOT CONVINCED, COMFORTABLE THAT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THEMSELVES HAVE YET BEEN REALLY, UM, STUDIED AND, AND UNDERSTOOD IN DEPTH.
SO, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE THE, I I THINK I'M FEELING LIKE THE ZONING ISSUES, THE LARGER ZONING ISSUES AS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT COME HERE, UH, HAVE BEEN SORT OF SUB, I DUNNO IF SUBSUMED THEY'VE BEEN THE, THE PRESENTATION AND THE DETAILS OF THE, OF THE, OF THE LINES FROM THE, THE BOUNDARIES, THE FOCUS, I, I FEEL HAS, UM, IN SOME WAYS DISAPPOINTED AS TO WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET FROM, UM, A MORE GENERAL IDEA OF THE CON THE CONCEPT OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO WE WILL JUST, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY, UH, REPLY TO SOME OF THAT.
UM, AND THIS, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A DEBATE HERE.
UM, SO, UM, ONLY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES CAN CREATE ZONING.
WE CAN'T, THIS IS AN ADVISORY OPINION, UH, ONLY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, IT'S STILL THE ONE, IT'S STILL THE ONE WE HAVE IN EXISTENCE AND I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THE SECOND ONE IS GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING BUT IT, THIS DOES DO FALL IN, I LUCKILY I WAS A TRUSTEE DURING THE TIME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN WE PICKED THE, WE PICKED THE MEMBERS AND WE WORKED ON THAT FOR YEARS.
AND, UM, I THINK IT'S STILL A GOOD DOCUMENT AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
UM, THE ZONING RIGHT NOW FOR THIS, UM, UH, PART OF HASTINGS IS, UH, R 20, SO YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP ON YOURSELF.
SO NEXT, YEAH, UM, WELL I'M, I'D LIKE TO RAISE SOME ISSUES.
OH, SORRY, MY NAME'S IDA SUSSA AND I LIVE ON PINECREST DRIVE, SO IT'S RIGHT NEAR WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING.
AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING SOME OF THE ZOOMS, AND I CAME TO SOME
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OF THE PRELIMINARY MEETINGS, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW IT GOT SO FAR BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE THAT IT WAS AT THE POINT OF JUST ABOUT TO BE HAPPENING.BUT WE ARE ALL JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY'S WATCHING ALL THE TIME.
SO I WAS VERY CONCERNED FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, I HAVE A FEW, I HAVE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PLANS AND TO ME IT IS, I HEARD YOU DISCUSSING WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE FOR HASTINGS, BUT CERTAINLY ABOUT COMMERCIAL.
BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT, THE, THE, THE TREES, THE AQUEDUCT, THE STREAM, THE, THE, THE GENERAL AREA THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME TO HOW HASTINGS IS SPECIAL.
AND, UM, LOOKING AT THE PICTURE THERE, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME LIKE THAT WHOLE, THE ONE WITH THE GREEN ROOF, WILL THAT BE, UH, RIGHT AS YOU WALK DOWN THE AQUEDUCT, IT WOULD KIND OF COMING DOWN.
I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT IS.
BUT THEN THE PARKING LOT ALSO, HOW ARE THESE, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT THAT, THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND MAYBE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THEM AND DECIDED ON IT, BUT I DID SEE THAT THERE'S 271 TREES BEING CHOPPED DOWN.
EVEN THOUGH ALL THE PICTURES HAD TREES IN THEM, APPARENTLY 271 TREES OF THE VERY OLD ORIGINAL TREES WILL BE CHOPPED DOWN.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW ABOUT ECOLOGY, IT'S THOSE OLD ORIGINAL TREES THAT COUNT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'M WONDERING ABOUT, THESE TRACTOR TRAILERS, ARE THEY GONNA GO DOWN TO WARTON? ARE THEY GONNA GO FROM BROADWAY DOWN? HOW IS THAT ROAD WORK? THE, THE ROAD, I'M JUST GONNA ANSWER THIS ONE.
THE ROAD THAT GOES DOWN TO WARBURTON IS FOR EMERGENCY ONLY.
WELL THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS I WASN'T SURE ABOUT, BUT CAN I JUST, I JUST WANNA INTERRUPT FOR ONE SECOND.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, THIS BOARD, ALL THIS BOARD'S ROLE IS IN THIS PROCESS IS TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED ZONING AND MAKE COMMENTS BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ARE BEING REVIEWED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
UM, THERE'S, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE RECENT MEETINGS BEFORE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THE TOPICS YOU JUST MENTIONED.
SO THEY ARE THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE REVIEW UNDER THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT.
SO THEY ARE REVIEWING ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MATERIAL SUBMITTED RELATING TO THOSE ISSUES, UM, AND, AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION ON THOSE ISSUES.
AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING.
THEY HAVEN'T MADE ANY DETERMINATION YET.
SO, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THIS, BUT THIS BOARD ONLY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING, NOT THE PROJECT.
SO THEN WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE QUESTION IS, HAS THERE BEEN, AND MAYBE THERE IS, I KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY, LIKE YOU SAID, ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TAXES THAT WOULD COME TO THE VILLAGE FOR, UH, IF IT STAYED THAT WAY AND YOU TOOK A, SOME, MAYBE SOME OTHER PROJECT HAS THAT, THAT ANALYSIS COMPARISON.
SO THEY'VE SUBMITTED INFORMATION ON WHAT THE, UM, TAX BENEFITS, WHAT THE TAXES WOULD BE, UM, TO THE VILLAGE AND THE TOWN AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, FOR THIS USE, UM, FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MANY HOUSES IT WOULD BE.
AND OBVIOUSLY A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE A BURDEN ON THE SCHOOLS THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF BURDENS ON THE MUNICIPALITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE TAXES PAID, BUT IT'S ALSO THE EXPENSES THAT ARE INCURRED BY THE VILLAGE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO THERE IS A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS THAT'S INCLUDED IN DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED THAT PRETTY EARLY ON.
YEAH, COMPARE WITH SINGLE FAMILY.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A FULL COMPARISON DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T LAID OUT A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION ON THE SITE.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S 20,000 SQUARE FEET ZONING ON 17 ACRES.
SO BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE NEED, AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT SINGLE FAMILY WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE TO OFFER.
SO ANYWAY, THESE ARE QUESTIONS I, I'M GLAD IT HASN'T GOT TO THE POINT OF IF YOU SAY YES, IT HAPPENS, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THEM UP HERE.
THANK WE'RE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT YET.
THIS BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO HAVE THAT POWER.
GREAT POWER, COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY,
WELL, SOMEHOW YOU HAVE, I'D LIKE IT TO BE DISCUSSED.
YOU'VE SEEN ME QUITE A FEW TIMES.
MY NAME IS EVA LEVINE AND I LIVE AT RIVER EDGE, NOT RIVER POINT.
IT'S A CO-OP APARTMENT BUILDING.
WE ARE 250 OR SO PEOPLE, MOST OF US OWN OUR APARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN IGNORED IN THIS WHOLE THING.
I REALIZE WE ONLY PAY TAXES ON
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THE POOL AND THE BARBECUE AREA, WHICH IS OUR ONLY OUTSIDE AREA, ALTHOUGH THEY TELL ME MY TERRACE IS IN HASTINGS.UM, BUT IT EVEN ON THEIR ORIGINAL DRAWING AND THE ONE THEY HAD THE OTHER NIGHT, IF YOU LOOK FOR US, WE'RE EIGHT STORIES HIGH.
THERE'S A SMUDGE AT THE BOTTOM, THAT'S US.
THE TOWNHOUSES ARE ABOUT THIS HIGH.
UM, I TRY, I'M A VERY INEPT TECH.
I TRY TO SEND YOU GUYS AND THE BOARD TRUSTEE BOARD A VIDEO OF WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND DOWN DUDLEY, IT CAME THROUGH, IT CAME THROUGH, IT CAME THROUGH TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
I PROBABLY SENT IT FIVE TIMES.
I'M SORRY IF YOU GOT IT FIVE TIMES.
UM, BUT I TRIED TO SHOW WITH THE BUILDINGS THE WAY THEY EXIST NOW, THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE DOWN, THERE'S LOTS OF LIGHT THAT COMES THROUGH.
THE TREES AT SUNDOWN, IT'S GORGEOUS.
THEY'RE PUTTING UP THIS 30 FEET FROM THE STREET.
THAT'S A SOLID WALL OF BUILDINGS THAT'S FACING US.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE VIDEO, WE ARE DOWN IN THE HOLLOW.
I COULD HEAR THE KIDS FROM MY WINDOW YELLING.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR, WHAT THE AIR IS GONNA BE LIKE.
THEY PUT THAT, UM, VIEWING THING RIGHT, THAT'S GOING RIGHT OVER OUR POOL.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THE HIGHEST BUILDING OVER THERE.
OR MAYBE NOT, BUT THEY'RE ALL HIGH 200.
THE, UM, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE IS NOT HISTORICAL.
IF YOU HEARD THEIR PRESENTATION, IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL FOR EVERYBODY INSIDE, BUT THE REST OF US TOO BAD.
WE'RE YONKERS, WE VOTE IN YONKERS, WE ONLY PAVE THERE, BUT WE'RE 250 PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.
THEY ARE RUINING THE WHOLE THING.
UM, THE, THE HILL ITSELF, IF YOU JUST DRIVE DOWN D YOU'LL SEE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE.
AND I HEARD WITH THE PRIVATE HOUSES, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
WE, UM, HURRICANE IDA, WE WERE FLOODED.
I CAN SEE THE WATER THAT GOES DOWN THAT STREET.
THEY'RE PULLING OUT ALL THE TREES WITH ESTABLISHED ROOTS.
UM, THE ONES THEY'RE PUTTING IN ARE NOT GONNA HOLD THAT, BUT IT CAME DOWN OFF OF
THE OTHER THING IS GLENMORE PRESERVE IS THE ONLY PRESERVE IN SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER.
THEY'RE BLOCKING THE WILDLIFE THAT GOES THROUGH, THEY'RE BLOCKING THE LIGHT.
UM, THEY'RE SAID THEY'RE PUTTING A BUTTERFLY GARDEN ON THE TOP OF THAT ROOF.
OF COURSE NOBODY CAN GO THERE.
YOU GO BY THAT PARKING LOT AT LENIR.
I WENT BY TODAY AT ABOUT 4 35.
THERE WAS STILL LIKE 15 CARS IN THERE.
THERE ARE THREE SCHOOLS CONNECTED WITH HASTINGS THAT USE THAT PROPERTY.
THEY'RE WRECKING ALL OF DUDLEY.
UM, ANYWAY, I'M JUST HOPING YOU GUYS CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE DO LIVE THERE AT THIS POINT.
THERE IS NO NOTHING TO DO WITH US.
ALSO NOT ONE WORD ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE PROJECTION FOR MOVIES.
WITHIN FIVE YEARS YOU HAD ARTISTS AND WRITERS AND ACTORS ALL ON STRIKE BECAUSE OF IT.
YOU HAD TOM HANKS ON ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
HE WAS USED FOR SOME COMMERCIAL AND HE HAD TO GET IT GONE.
THEY CAN DID THAT IN A ROOM SOMEWHERE SO YOU COULD HAVE A HUGE BUILDING AND WELL, I'M GONNA MOVE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS WALL IF THAT'S TRUE.
WELL, WHO'S GONNA BE IN IT? SO I AM REALLY HOPING YOU'LL CONSIDER, OH, AND THEY, UM, THEY WERE ASKED TO MAKE ANOTHER SITE DRAWING.
ALL THEY DID WAS MAKE THE BUILDINGS TALLER AND CONNECTED THEM MORE.
AND THEY SAID THEY, UM, SOUNDPROOF THE MILL STUDIOS.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE EXACT SITE.
IF THEY TAKE THAT OTHER BUILDING DOWN, THEY CAN DO A WHOLE NOTHER SITE AND MOVE IT IN 150 FEET AND IT'LL BE AWAY FROM EVERYTHING THAT IF IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BEAUTIFUL FOR THE PEOPLE.
BUT THERE ARE RESIDENTS, WE LIVE LIVES AROUND THIS.
PEOPLE WORK, PEOPLE SLEEP, PEOPLE GET UP IN THE MORNING.
THEY SAID THE TRACTOR TRAILERS WOULD START AT 5:00 AM THEY HAVE A HUNDRED OR 150 FEET COMING FROM BROADWAY, BUT NOT US.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
I I JUST WANNA POINT OUT TO THE BOARD, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, ALL THE MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN A LOT OF VISUAL ANALYSIS AND DIFFERENT VIEWS TAKEN FROM LENIR PRESERVE, FROM ALONG DUDLEY, UM, FROM ACTUALLY THE POOL, UM,
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FROM DIFFERENT AREAS.THERE'S BEEN, UM, ACTUALLY A, IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT A LOT.
THEY, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IGNORED.
ANYBODY ELSE? THANKS EVERYONE.
UM, BILL KKI, UH, I'M ON PINECREST DRIVE.
MY FAMILY'S LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR 40 YEARS.
UM, SO THE, YOU KNOW, THINKING LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE PRIOR PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP, BUT, BUT SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT, WHEN, WHEN WE CHANGE THESE ZONES, WHAT'S TO SAY? LIKE, AND I THINK ACTUALLY THIS GROUP, WHILE THEY MAY DO GOOD WORKS, THEY ALSO HAVE A RECORD OF CHANGING ZONES AND THEN CHANGING WHAT KIND OF PROPERTY IS.
SO WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THIS IS A MOVIE STUDIO TODAY AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY REZONE IT SOME OTHER KIND OF COMMERCIAL AREA IN A CO IN A YEAR OR TWO OR 10 YEARS, RIGHT? WHEN I THINK THE ZONING ONLY ALLOWS FOR THE MOVIE STUDIO, IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USE.
SO EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE, THEY, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, IT WOULD HAVE TO STAY WITH THIS SAME, OR THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE VILLAGE BOARD AND GET A NEW ZONING AMENDMENT APPROVED AND GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS FOR WHATEVER THAT USE WAS GONNA BE.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A RIGHT TO JUST DO ANOTHER COMMERCIAL USE.
THE UNDERLYING R 20 ZONING STAYS IN PLACE.
UM, SO CAN I JUST MAKE ONE POINT OF CLARIFI CLARIFICATION? SURE.
TRUCKS ARE NOT GONNA BEGIN AT 5:00 AM I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
THERE WAS TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WERE PRESENTED AND WERE NOT STARTING AT THOSE HOURS.
I DON'T WANT IT TO KIND OF BY REPETITION BECOME BELIEVED TO BE FACT.
AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE MORE OF YOUR TIME THAN THAT, BUT THANK YOU.
CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE THING? I'M SORRY.
YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
UM, I LOOKED AT THE PLANS FOR WHAT I COULD SEE ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY ONE, I THINK YOU DID IT IN THE SUMMERTIME, UM, WHEN THE SCHOOLS AREN'T THERE, WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SCHOOL BUS ACCIDENT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE TO GRAHAM SCHOOL.
NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT THERE ARE TWO STU MORE STUDIOS GOING INTO EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD THAT THEY'VE ALL ALREADY BROKEN GROUND FOR.
ONE OF THEM HAS PARKED INTO 250 CARS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ONE HAS.
BUT, UM, NONE OF THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE SCHOOL BUSES, THE SCHOOLS AND ALL OF THAT OTHER TRAFFIC.
PLUS THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD, BY THE WAY, WITH NIGHTLIGHT, UM, NIGHT LIGHTING AND BLEACHES GOING IN.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT TRAFFIC TOO.
CANNING AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO WE DID CONDUCT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR THE PARKING STUDY WHEN SCHOOLS WERE IN SESSION.
THE REPORT MAY HAVE BEEN FINISHED IN JUNE, WHICH WOULD SAY MAYBE THERE WAS A DATE OF JUNE ON IT.
BUT THE COUNTS WERE DONE WHEN SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION.
UH, AND SCHOOL BUSES WERE ON THE ROAD.
AND WE DID INCLUDE, I ACTUALLY DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE YONKERS.
THEY WEREN'T VERY HAPPY THERE WAS DOING THIS STUDY, BUT, UH, FOR THE YONKERS STUDIOS.
SO WE INCLUDED THOSE AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS REVIEWED BY THE TOWN'S INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WHO BASICALLY TYPICALLY REVIEWS ALL OF THESE MATERIALS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE TYPICAL ENGINEERING STANDARDS.
SO, UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING NEW OR, OR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SAY, I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, LINDA, THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU BECAUSE IN THE ZONING LAW, IT DOES TALK ABOUT A REQUIREMENT FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND IT LISTS THE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.
AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD WERE ABOUT THAT IMPACT.
IS THAT ONE OF THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? IT'S WITHIN THE ZONING CODE.
SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE PROVIDED NOT JUST AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.
THEY'VE PROVIDED ALL OF THE STUDIES THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN REVIEWED BY THE VILLAGES CONSULTANTS.
UM, THEY'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS, THEY'VE RESPONDED TO THE COMMENTS.
THE VILLAGE, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WHICH IS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, HAS NOT COMPLETED THEIR REVIEW YET.
UM, BUT THAT IS ALL BEING DONE.
YEAH, I WAS JUST REFERRING TO THE TYPE OF OF ASSESSMENT THAT'S REQUIRED.
UH, BUT MAYBE THAT IS JUST THE STANDARD.
THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, WHERE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE VILLAGE BOARD AS LEAD AGENCY IS FOLLOWING, UM, THE REGULATIONS IN THE LAW UNDER, UNDER SCRA.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, WELL, I, WE DON'T EVEN EVEN NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
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JUST WANNA KNOW, I THAT I THINK THE COMMENTS SPEAKER THEMSELVES FOR ME ON THE RECORD.UM, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST GO DOWN AND, AND, UH, START WITH JOSH.
JUST, YOU KNOW, BRIEFLY, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS IN TERMS OF ADVICE? AND WE DO HAVE JERRY'S ONE COMMENT, WHICH WILL BE PASSED ALONG ON THE ACTUAL ZONING TEXT.
UM, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, THERE'S A NATURAL TENDENCY, UH, WITH ANYTHING NEW, UH, TO HAVE QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK THAT'S LEGITIMATE.
I THINK THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE AND THAT PROCESS IS BEING DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION NO MORE VALUABLE THAN ANYONE ELSE'S, UH, AS A HASTINGS RESIDENT IS THAT, UM, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE NEED.
WE NEED, NEED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
WE NEED THE TAX REVENUE WITHOUT BURNING THE SCHOOLS.
WE NEED TRAFFIC IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, I AM TRUSTING THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO HOLD, UM, HASTINGS OVERALL, UM, CONCERNS AT THE FOREFRONT IN FINDING A WAY TO CRAFT A PATH THAT ALLOWS THAT SITE TO BE SOMETHING, UH, MORE THAN IT CURRENTLY IS AT A BENEFIT TO THIS TOWN, UM, THIS VILLAGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I LIVE NEARBY, UM, THIS SITE AND THE HARDEST THING WITH, UH, THESE TYPES OF SITES IS USE, RIGHT? AND, AND SO GIVING IT A USE IS, IN MY OPINION, BETTER THAN LEAVING IT EMPTY.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM, FOR THE BOARD OF USING THE PER PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS.
IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING? PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN, IN THE ZONING OVERLAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, BUT MAYBE THEY COULD DO A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THOSE WITH THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MECHANISM WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
UM, GRANTED WE CAN'T CONTROL EXACTLY HOW MANY TRUCKS, BUT, BUT THE IDEA, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE MORE THAN TWO STUDIOS AT A TIME IS A WAY TO CONTROL ACTIVITY THROUGH A ZONING OVERLAY.
SO THAT'S, TO ME, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE REALLY CAREFULLY REVIEWED, UM, BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS A WAY TO ADDRESS COMMENTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THE SITE DOES NEED A USE, I THINK.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT ACTUALLY, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBLE ASPECTS TO THE PROJECT.
I HEAR THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE, BUT I'VE LOOKED AT THE VIEWS AS WELL.
MY, MY KIDS GO TO LENOIR PRESERVE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
THEY GO TO CAMP THERE THE ENTIRE SUMMER.
SO I'M, YOU KNOW, EQUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
BUT, UM, I FIND THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO BE ACCURATE FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
SO I, I THINK IF THOSE CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED THAT WAY, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE OVERLAY.
THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKE ABOUT THE OVERLAY, I, I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN FROM PINECREST MENTION THIS IS THAT IT IS A WAY FOR US, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS SITE NOT BECOMING SOMETHING ELSE.
SO THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ZONING WAS LOOKED AT.
AND, AND THIS DOES SEEM TO BE THE ONE THAT GIVES THE VILLAGE THE MOST CONTROL.
SO IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BECOME A, UM, AMAZON SHIPPING CENTER.
IT COULD NOT, IT COULD NOT BECOME THAT.
UM, WHICH WOULD BE A HUGE CONCERN IF IT COULD.
UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT ACTUALLY THE LAST, UM, THE LAST POINT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON BECAUSE, UM, THERE, THERE WERE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR, FOR HOW TO ZONE THIS, BUT THE, THE OVERLAY DOES, DOES GIVE THE, THE VILLAGE CONTROL IN THAT, IN THAT SITUATION.
AND, AND HONESTLY, I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE, THE COMMENTS 'CAUSE I KNOW IT IS PEOPLE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT PEOPLE, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT.
UM, I, I ACTUALLY HAVE SAT IN ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF FROM ELECTRICAL ABOUT TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND WE MET WELL BEFORE THIS.
WE WENT PROBABLY SIX MONTHS A YEAR AGO, UM, ABOUT THE WAY THAT TRAFFIC WOULD BE AFFECTED IN THE SOUTHERN CORRIDOR, HOW TRUCKS WOULD GET THERE FROM THE CITY.
BUT I, I THINK THAT WHILE ALL THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, I THINK THAT THE, THE REASON THAT WE'RE ALL HERE IS TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONING.
AND CERTAINLY I I, I APPRECIATE DUDLEY STREET AND THE, AND THE, THE ISSUES THAT ARE THERE.
I, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE IS SEPARATION BETWEEN THE, THE PROPERTIES AND LINES OF SIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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THE, THE OVERLAY ZONING TO ME, UM, MAKES THE MOST SENSE OF, OF ALL THE OPTIONS.AND AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, FROM, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE PAINFUL FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT, THAT THE BUT IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE WOULD, WOULD BE MINIMAL.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS.
AND I AGREE WITH OTHERS HAD SAID THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT WOULD BE IN THE PROPOSED ZONING LAW SECTION THREE, UM, WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OR WHATEVER GROUP IS TAKING A LOOK AT THIS PROPOSED, UM, CHANGE TO THE ZONING LAWS, THAT THAT REALLY IS A, UM, A HIGH STANDARD AS TO WHAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS DONE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT, UH, THAT THE AQUEDUCT AND A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT THE, THE PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS VERY UNIQUE.
AND I JUST WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING AND THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS, UM, A HIGH ENOUGH STANDARD TO TAKE THOSE CONDITIONS INTO ACCOUNT.
SO CCRA IS SOMETHING UNDER STATE LAW, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA REWRITE THE ZONING RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE ARE FEDERAL STANDARDS, THERE ARE STATE STANDARDS, THERE ARE OTHER STATE STANDARDS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CLIMATE SMART COMMUNITY STANDARDS.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE COMMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS SELECTED IS CONSIDERING THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PARCEL.
SO, UM, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, PASSING THIS ON TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WITH THE COMMENTS MADE? AND I THINK THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO DO, RIGHT? LINDA? YES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE JUST, THEY CAN JUST LISTEN TO US AND YOU'LL GIVE THEM A, I I'VE, I'VE, YEAH, YOU'LL GIVE THEM, I'LL GIVE 'EM A LITTLE SUMMARY AND THEY CAN ALWAYS WATCH THE VIDEO AS WELL.
BUT I'LL GIVE THEM A SUMMARY AND ANYTHING FOR, FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THAT HAS TO BE DONE, UM, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT, UM, BOARDS THAT ARE, UM, LEAD AGENCIES THAT END UP HAVING TO DO A, A, AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THAT SATISFIES NEW YORK STATE TREMBLE IN THEIR BOOTS BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD AND, AND GO THROUGH, UM, QUITE A, UM, DIFFICULT, UM, REPORT TO SEND UP TO THE STATE THAT'S REVIEWED BY THEM.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST, JUST PASSES MY, AND THE, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS SORT OF ENLISTED THE HELP OF THE PLANNING BOARD SINCE THE PLANNING BOARD DEALS WITH THOSE ISSUES A LOT MORE.
AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON, ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW ISSUES HERE.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE WILL HAVE TO BE DONE AND IT'LL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE, I BELIEVE.
RIGHT, LINDA? THEY GO TO THE STATE.
IT DOESN'T, NO, IT DOESN'T GET REVIEWED.
IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED BY, ALTHOUGH THEY DO HAVE SOME STATE PERMITS THAT THEY WILL NEED.
UM, SO CERTAIN THINGS DO GET REVIEWED BY THE STATE AND CERTAINLY THE STORM WATER WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY'VE ALREADY HAD TO, UM, GO THROUGH A REVIEW WITH, UM, THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, UM, AND, UM, THE OFFICE, O-P-R-H-P, OFFICE OF PARKS RECREATION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WHICH LOOK AT THE AQUEDUCT IMPACT.
SO THERE'S ALREADY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN, THE GARAGE WAS IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE SLOPE WHERE IT WAS VISIBLE FROM THE AQUEDUCT.
AND THAT WAS A COMMENT THAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE STATE.
UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THE GARAGE WAS MOVED.
UM, SO THAT THERE, THERE IS NOTHING AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE THE VISUAL IMPACTS FROM THE AQUEDUCT LOOKING UP FROM THE AQUEDUCT.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THE STATE LOOKS AT VERY CAREFULLY.
UM, O-P-R-H-P LOOKS AT IT, SHIPPO LOOKS AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ELEMENTS.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE VILLAGE AND THE STATE ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF THE SITE.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME, SOME WORK AND CREATE SOME, UM, INFORMATION, UM, THAT WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, UM, ON THE SITE AND THE HISTORY OF THE SITE AND THE HISTORY OF THE GRAHAM WINDHAM HOME, UM, AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE STATE IS, IS DEFINITELY INVOLVED IN AND ARE LOOKING AT.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED ALREADY.
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COMING AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS.UM, AND UM, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
I WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY HOLIDAY AND A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE WORK TO DO HERE TO FIGURE OUT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
WE HAVE TO DO OUR MINUTES OR MINUTES.
GET TO DO THIS WITH THE PLANNING BOARD NEXT WEEK.
IF EVERYBODY COULD TAKE THE, WE'RE THE BOARD'S NOT DONE? THEY STILL HAVE A MEETING, SO IF YOU WANNA TALK, PLEASE TAKE IT OUT THE HALLWAY, PLEASE.
JUST USE IT OUT THE HALL OR DOWNSTAIRS.
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THE MINUTES.I DIDN'T SEE YOU SNEAK IN AGO.
SO THIS IS BRIAN BALDOR AND HE'S OUR NEW ALTERNATE.
HE GOT, HE GOT, HE GOT SWORN IN AND, UM, CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU GOT A CHANCE TO COME DOWN HERE AND SEE HOW WE WORK AND I DUNNO HOW THAT THINGS WORK.
DID YOU, WELL, YOU, YOU HAVE TO DO MINUTES, BUT THEN DID YOU WANNA TALK SCHEDULE? YEAH.
SO YOU MAY AS WELL STAY, YOU STAY FOR THE SCHEDULE A
YOU'RE, LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.
ALRIGHT, UM, SO LET'S JUST DO WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TWO OF THEM OR NOT? NO, JUST ONE.
THE, I WASN'T HERE OCTOBER 26TH, SO I WASN'T HERE IN OCTOBER.
SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND LET US KNOW IF IT WORKS.
WHO WAS HERE? DO YOU HAVE THE, YOU WERE, I I WAS HERE.
RICHARD, YOU WERE HERE, WEREN'T YOU? THERE WAS ONE.
OH, THERE WAS ONE THAT I MISSED.
I THINK I WAS, I WAS HERE FOR OCTOBER ACTUALLY.
I THINK WE JUST HAD ONE CASE ON.
WE JUST HAD THE VIEW, THE ONE VIEW PRESERVATION.
IT WASN'T ZERO WAR, YOU WERE HERE.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? 'CAUSE OTHERWISE I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION.
GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 26TH OF OCTOBER 26TH.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW, I DON'T EVEN HAVE MY CALENDAR, BUT LET'S TRY IT.
DUNNO THAT NEXT YEAR, NEXT MEETING IS JANUARY 25TH.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S START WITH JANUARY.
WHAT IS THE FOURTH THURSDAY IN THE 25TH? 25TH? IS THAT ANY VACATIONS FROM SCHOOLS OR ANYTHING? I, MY FAMILY IS VISITING THEM, SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE OFF FOR OUR NEW ALTERNATE TO ATTEND AND ME NOT TO THAT'S OKAY.
IF YOU NEED ME HERE TO HAVE A QUO ON MY HEAD, BUT, OKAY.
SO IS THAT FOR JANUARY? JANUARY 25TH? YEAH.
SO I WON'T BE, OKAY, SO JANUARY, JANUARY 25TH, IS IT? YES.
I MAY WANNA GET AWAY FROM MY FAMILY AT THAT POINT.
I'LL, I'LL TEXT YOU, JERRY AND LET YOU KNOW KIND OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH MY PARENTS VISITING
IF I NEED TO LEAVE, I'LL COME REGION WEEK IF THAT MATTERS FOR ANYBODY FOR THE REGION WEEK? NO, I'M A MAYBE THAT'S FINE.
SO YOU CAN'T MAKE IT MARY, YOU'RE GONE.
I'M TRAVELING, BUT I MIGHT BE COMING BACK WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
SO WHAT ABOUT FEBRUARY? FEBRUARY 22ND IS THE FOURTH THURSDAY.
THAT'S NOT FEBRUARY BREAK, RIGHT? THAT IS, THAT IS FEBRUARY.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA MOVE THAT ONE.
YEAH, SO, SO WELL THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
BUT I, I THOUGHT WE DID THIS LAST TIME.
WE, THERE'S TWO MEETINGS IN MARCH NOW OR WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU HAVE A 29TH.
I HAVE IT IN AS THE 29TH LA LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE ALL HAD A CALENDAR.
YEAH, WE CALENDAR OVER THIS CALENDAR AND WE WENT OVER IT.
SO, SO BASED ON THAT, I HAVE IT AS THE 29TH.
DOES ANYBODY, THAT'S 'CAUSE OF SLEEP YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH.
ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, THAT WE KNOW FOR THE 29TH, FEBRUARY 29TH? THAT WORKS.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED ALTERNATES, RIGHT? FUN FACT.
THAT WAS MY DUE DATE, BUT I WAS NOT BORN ON WHAT DAY WERE YOU? EARLY OR LATE? FOUR DAYS EARLY.
ALRIGHT, NOW MARCH, MARCH 28TH.
IS THAT ANY SCHOOL? SPRING RECESS.
SEE, YOU JUST HAD WINTER RECESS.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
BUT THAT, I SAW THAT IN THE, IN THE, UH, THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.
THAT, THAT THEY WERE SO CLOSE TOGETHER, BUT SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE PROBLEMS. YEAH.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO AWAY.
THE NEXT WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO THE WEEK BEFORE? OR YOU CAN'T DO IT THE WEEK BEFORE? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO WE AGAIN, WHEN WE DID THIS LAST TIME, WE WENT TO THE 4TH OF APRIL.
SO WE WE DID THIS LAST MONTH, JERRY, WE IN OCTOBER WHEN YOU WEREN'T HERE.
SO FEBRUARY 4TH, IS THAT FINE? APRIL? SORRY, DID JERRY NOT ACCOUNT APRIL, I MEAN APRIL 4TH.
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SO WHAT DOES THAT MAKE THE APRIL DATE THEN? WHAT ARE WE WORRIED? THE 25TH? THE 25TH.WE'RE HAVING TWO MEETINGS IN APRIL.
AND DID WE GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT? YEAH, I THINK WE DID THE WHOLE YEAR.
YOU WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR.
SEPTEMBER LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE FIRST.
DO WE MOVE IT TO THE SECOND? WE, WE MIGHT HAVE MOVED IT TO THE SECOND LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR.
NO MEETING IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER 5TH.
NO, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE NOVEMBER THAT'LL TAKE FOR TWO.
SORT OF LIKE WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR I GUESS.
DECEMBER 5TH TAKES CARE OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
FOR SOME REASON WE DIDN'T DO THE 12TH.
THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT OR SOMETHING.
AND ANYBODY MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I KNOW YOU ALL LIKE IT HERE, SO JUST KEEP QUIET.
I CAN'T SO SOMEBODY DO IT? YEAH, SOMEBODY DO IT.