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THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY, FOR BEING HERE.
UH, I'M, I'M GLAD TO REALLY SEE A NICE TURNOUT.
UM, AND, AND, UH, 'CAUSE WE, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE I KNOW FOR ALL OF YOU, AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SHARING, HEARING FROM YOU AND, AND SHARING WITH YOU, UH, THOUGHTS.
THE FIRST THING, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE FEW TRUSTEES IN THE ROOM, SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I SAW TRUSTEE ALLGOOD AND TRUSTEE STEINBERG, AND I THINK THAT TRUSTEE MERTON IS ALSO PLANNING TO ATTEND.
SO SHE MAY, MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE QUITE YET.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU KIND OF A SHORT INTRODUCTION TO THE PROJECT, AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, OUR ENGINEER.
UM, SO THIS PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT'S FUNDED BY NEW YORK STATE.
UH, THE PROJECT ITSELF IS ESTIMATED TO COST ABOUT $1.8 MILLION, AND WE HAVE A GRANT FOR $1.4 MILLION.
AND THE VILLAGE, UH, PAYS, PAYS THE REMAINDER.
YOU KNOW WHAT? IS THAT BETTER? YEAH.
UH, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THE PROJECT IS A $1.8 MILLION PROJECT ESTIMATED, OF COURSE, WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN CONSTRUCTION, UH, UH, BIDS YET.
AND, UM, THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE IS FOR ABOUT 1.4, ALMOST $1.5 MILLION.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS, UH, TO BE PAID BY THE VILLAGE.
AND THE GRANT IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN OF NEW SIDEWALK SECTIONS TO CREATE A CONTINUOUS PEDESTRIAN ROUTE ON BOTH SIDES OF ROSEDALE AVENUE, BETWEEN RAVENSDALE ROAD AND MOUNT HOPE ROAD.
UM, I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IN RESPONSE TO MY, UH, UH, THE NOTE THAT I SENT OUT.
SO, UM, I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW IT.
THE, THE LIMITS OF THE, OF THE WORK AREA.
UH, THE PROJECT INCLUDES SIDEWALKS, UM, RAMPS, CROSSWALKS, INCREASED CURB REVEAL, ADDITIONAL CATCH BASINS, AND THE REHABILITATION OF THE STAIRCASE CONNECTING ROSEDALE AM, UH, ROSEDALE AVENUE TO HAMILTON, BY WAY OF PRESTON PLACE.
UH, WE INTEND TO USE LOW CARBON CONCRETE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALKS.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST, AT LEAST FIVE YEARS.
AND, UM, WE, WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD SUCCESS WITH THE QUALITY OF THE SIDEWALKS, AND IT'S BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL.
UM, THE, THE, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT THE, UH, SURVEYORS HAVE BEEN OUT ON ROSEDALE DOING SOME OF THE SURVEY WORK.
THEY STARTED BEFORE, UH, WE HAD THAT HUGE SNOWSTORM, AND THEY HAVE NOT FINISHED THAT WORK, BUT WE WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS BEFORE THE DESIGN PROCESS HAS EVEN REALLY BEEN STARTED.
SO WE CAN GET JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND HEAR FROM YOU, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT YOUR PARTICULAR THOUGHTS, CONCERNS, IDEAS, UH, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JARED ANDERSON, WHO IS OUR ENGINEER FROM CREIGHTON MANNING.
AND HE HAS, UH, WITH HIM, ONE OF HIS FELLOW ENGINEERS, UH, CATHERINE ROMANO.
UH, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT, AND I HOPE THAT YOU FIND THIS, UH, INTERESTING AND, UH, ENLIGHTENING.
AND WE ALSO, AS I SAID, WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AS WELL.
THANK YOU TRUSTEES, UH, FOR HAVING US.
UM, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE REALLY FUELED BY PUBLIC, UH, INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT HERE AND INVOLVED IN HAVING YOUR SAY, THEN WE'RE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB.
SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT, I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US FIRST, THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE PROJECT JUST GENERALLY WHERE IT IS.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, UM, WHAT THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT ARE.
THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE MINDFUL OF WHEN WE START DESIGN.
UM, AS MARY BETH MENTIONED, SURVEY IS NOT DONE YET, AND WE'RE REALLY JUST HERE, UH, INFORMATION GATHERING, ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
WE ALREADY DID GET SOME QUESTIONS AND WE PREPARED SOME ANSWERS TO THEM.
SO WE MAY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THE COURSE OF THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON THE PROCESS, UM, BECAUSE THIS MONEY DO NEW YORK STATE, DOT OVERSEES THE MONEY, BUT IT DOES ULTIMATELY COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THEIR STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATIONS IN DOING SO.
SO, I'LL JUST TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE.
THEN I'LL PULL UP, SEPARATE FROM THE POWERPOINT, SORT OF AN OVERVIEW, WALK DOWN THE STREET AND BACK TYPE OF PLAN WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT'S OUT THERE.
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SOME, I HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES, EXAMPLES OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FACE AND OVERCOME AS PART OF THE DESIGN.AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO SOME MORE QUESTIONS.
IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
I WILL SAY, IF YOU HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT YOUR DRIVEWAY OR YOU KNOW, THE CURB IN FRONT, YOU KNOW, JUST ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THAT, I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TONIGHT.
BUT I, I PROMISE YOU, WE'LL BE BACK PROBABLY IN THE LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMERTIME, ONCE WE'VE GOTTEN YOUR FEEDBACK, PUT TOGETHER A PRELIMINARY DESIGN CONCEPT, AND THEN WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU, AND THEN WE CAN GO GET A LOT MORE SPECIFIC.
SO I, SO AGAIN, WE HAVE MARY BETH MURPHY, YOUR VILLAGE, UH, YOUR VILLAGE MANAGER, ALONG WITH, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SHE'S HERE, FIONA.
MATTHEW, UH, THE GRANT CONSULTANT FOR THE VILLAGE WHO HELPED SECURE THIS FUNDING, UH, FOR THE VILLAGE, VERY INSTRUMENTAL.
SHE ALSO HANDLES A LOT OF THE FINANCIALS WITH NEW YORK STATE D OT.
UH, OUR COMPANY NAME IS CREIGHTON MANNING ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING, PLLC.
I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER AGAIN, CATHERINE WITH ME IS OUR PROJECT ENGINEER.
I'M BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT HERE TONIGHT IS OUR, IS OUR FRIEND NICK O'CONNOR, WHO DOES A LOT OF THE, THE, UH, THE HEAVY DUTY LIFTING AS WE SAY.
WE DO HAVE TWO SUB CONSULTANTS THAT ARE SUPPORTING US.
UH, THEY, THEY ULTIMATELY, THEY WORK FOR THE VILLAGE THROUGH US.
UM, OSPA, THEY ARE, THEY DO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL WORK BECAUSE WE ARE USING FEDERAL DOLLARS, WE HAVE TO SATISFY THE FEDERAL NEPA PROCESS.
UH, SO THEY CHECK FOR THINGS LIKE HISTORIC IMPACTS, CULTURAL, ENDANGERED SPECIES, WETLANDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, AND THEN OUR SURVEYORS ARE CIVIL TECH.
AS MARY BETH MENTIONED, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THEM OUT THERE.
THEY'RE SUPPORTING US ON THIS PROJECT BY DOING THE TOPO TOPOGRAPHIC AND THE PROPERTY LINE AND HIGHWAY BOUNDARY SURVEY.
UH, THE FIRM ITSELF WAS, UM, FOUNDED OVER 60 YEARS AGO UP IN ALBANY.
AND WE HAVE OFFICES IN WHITE PLAINS IN POUGHKEEPSIE, AS WELL AS SYRACUSE.
UM, AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE DO, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE HUDSON VALLEY, WORKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND IN THE CAPITAL DISTRICT AS WELL.
AND UP AND DOWN THE HUDSON RIVER.
JUST A VERY BASIC MAP HERE OF ROSEDALE, UH, AS, AS MARY BETH MENTIONED, FROM RAVENSDALE TO MOUNT HOPE BOULEVARD.
JUST GIVE YOU A SECOND WITH THAT.
AND WHAT IS THIS PROJECT REALLY AIMING TO ACHIEVE? SO, ABOVE ALL, IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, WE HAVE FOLKS IN THOSE DIS DISJOINTED SECTIONS WALKING IN THE ROAD OR MAYBE JUST PREFERRING TO WALK IN THE ROAD THE WHOLE WAY.
UM, SOME OF THOSE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE THERE ARE NARROW AND OR CRACKING AND DISJOINTED, UH, DIFFERENT MATERIALS, DIFFERENT CONSISTENCIES.
SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS PROVIDE THAT CONSISTENT, ACCESSIBLE CONCRETE SIDEWALK, UH, THAT ROUTE FROM RAVENSDALE TO MOUNT HOPE, UH, TO THE, TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, ESSENTIALLY, UH, ALONG BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
SO, CONNECT UP THE SECTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALK AND REPLACE THE SIDEWALK THAT'S IN DISREPAIR, WHICH IS MOST OF IT.
UH, WE WILL ATTEMPT TO SAVE WHAT WE CAN AS LONG AS IT MEETS, UH, A DA AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
UH, WE WANT TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE CURB THAT'S OUT THERE AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S, UM, IT'S A NICE STONE CURB, SO WE WANT TO TRY TO LIFT THAT, RESET IT, PUT A GOOD BASE UNDER IT, AND MAKE SURE WE GET A GOOD CURB REVEAL.
UM, SO THAT THAT HELPS ASSIST WITH STORMWATER AND, AND DRAINAGE COLLECTION.
UH, THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WE ENTER THE DESIGN PHASE.
ONCE WE HAVE THE SURVEY, UH, WE WANNA AVOID TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT THAT WE CAN, TREES THAT ARE THERE, LANDSCAPE FEATURES SUCH AS YOUR HEDGES, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT, WALLS THAT ARE THERE, AND FENCES IF WE CAN, UH, WE WANNA AVOID OR MINIMIZE IMPACT TO POLES.
UH, MOVING ONE POLE OFTEN MEANS YOU GOTTA MOVE A FEW.
IT'S HARD TO MOVE JUST ONE POLE, UH, BECAUSE YOU TAKE ONE OUT OF ALIGNMENT.
YOU GOTTA DO THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK AROUND THAT.
UH, FIRE HYDRANTS, WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE ONE OR TWO.
THAT'S USUALLY NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT AGAIN, IF WE CAN AVOID IT, WE WILL REMAIN WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
UM, THE VILLAGE OWNED LAND, WE DON'T WANT TO ENTER PRIVATE PROPERTY AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T THINK WE NEED TO.
IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY LONG PROCESS, UH, TIME CONSUMING.
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AND, AND WE JUST DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.UH, WE WANT TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK IN THE PUBLIC SPACE THAT EXISTS TODAY.
I WILL SAY WITH THE DRIVEWAYS, HOWEVER, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING YOU WITH A BUMP OR A BOTTOMING OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE WHEN YOU'RE PULLING IN AND OUT.
UM, SO WE WOULD ASK IF WE THINK ONCE WE LOOK AT EVERYBODY'S DRIVING, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IN GREAT DETAIL.
IF WE THINK WE MIGHT GO OVER THE BOUNDARY LINE, THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU TO SECURE WRITTEN PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
IF AND ONLY IF WE GO OVER THE LINE, STILL A WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO TILL TILL WE GET THERE.
BUT JUST SOMETHING TO PUT OUT THERE THAT THERE IS A FORMAL MECHANISM OUT THERE.
IT'S A SIMPLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS YOU AGREE TO ALLOW A CONTRACTOR TO WORK OVER THE HIGHWAY LINE, UH, TO FIX YOUR DRIVEWAY AT THE PROJECT'S EXPENSE.
UM, TRAFFIC DURING CONSTRUCTION, ALWAYS A A POPULAR OR MAYBE UNPOPULAR, UM, TOPIC.
SO TRA TRADITIONAL CONSTRUCTION METHODS WOULD BE USED HERE.
YOU'D HAVE FLAGGERS AT EITHER END OF WHERE IS BEING WORKED ON AT THAT PARTICULAR DAY, UM, SENDING FOLKS AROUND, ALTERNATING BACK AND FORTH.
UH, TRY TO KEEP ANY OF THOSE CLOSURES OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'LL ESTABLISH AS THE PEAK OR RUSH PERIODS.
MAYBE THE SCHOOL BUSES USE THIS ROUTE.
WE WANT TO TRY TO AVOID, UM, DISTURBING THAT TIMEFRAME.
WE'LL WORK WITH THE, WITH MARY BETH AND THE VILLAGE STAFF ON WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME, UH, TO NOT ALLOW CONSTRUCTION AND TO NOT ALLOW LANE CLOSURES TO OCCUR.
AND, AND OF COURSE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, MAKING SURE EVERYONE CAN GET IN AND OUTTA THEIR DRIVEWAY.
UH, AND IF WE'RE GONNA DISTURB IN ANY WAY, YOU'LL BE CONTACTED WITH AMPLE ADVANCE NOTICE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY WHERE THEY MIGHT BE POURING SIDEWALK ACROSS THE FRONT OF YOUR DRIVEWAY.
AND WE, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A WAY AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT THEY CAN PUT A PLATE OVER THAT OR SOME KIND OF, SOME KIND OF WAY TO GET YOU IN AND OUT AND MAKE SURE YOU CAN ACCESS YOUR HOME.
THIS IS THE BORING PART, BUT THE PART WE MUST SPEAK ABOUT IS THE, UH, THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, NEW YORK STATE DOT OVERSEES THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THEY, THEY KIND OF HOLD THE PURSE STRINGS.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH WHAT IS KNOWN AS REGION EIGHT IN THE HUDSON VALLEY, UH, IN THE POUGHKEEPSIE OFFICE, AND THEY ACT ON THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION'S BEHALF.
UM, THE PROCESS IS NOT SIMPLE.
AND WE ARE VERY EARLY ON AS MENTIONED.
SO THE VILLAGE PRIOR TO OUR INVOLVEMENT, UH, IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT AND WAS A SUCCESSFUL IN SECURING, UH, A GOOD AMOUNT OF FUNDING TO DO THIS PROJECT.
THEY THEN PUT OUT, UH, REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY FIRMS RESPONDED, BUT WE WERE ONE OF THEM.
AND THEY FOUND US TO BE THE MOST QUALIFIED THROUGH A SELECTION PROCESS.
WE DEPLOYED OUR FIELD SURVEY CREW, UH, JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME TO GET CUT OFF BY THE SNOWSTORM.
UH, AND IT'S REALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TO WAIT FOR SOME OF THAT SNOW TO MELT.
IT COULD BE A WHILE, UH, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO MISS ANYTHING.
YOU COULD TAKE A SURVEY ROD AND STICK IT THROUGH THE SNOW AND GET A MEASUREMENT, BUT GAS VALVE, WATER VALVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA MISS THOSE THINGS WITH ALL THE SNOW OUT THERE.
ACTUALLY, LET'S GET YOU THE MICROPHONE BEFORE YOU ASK, SO THAT IT, IT IS HEARD.
MARY BETH, I'M SORRY, JUST A A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.
YOU SAY WE ARE HERE AT THE BEGIN FIELD SURVEY AND DES OH, SORRY, WE'RE CLOSE TO YOUR, NOW, UH, YOU SAY WE ARE HERE AT THE, UH, BEGIN FIELD SURVEY AND DESIGN CONCEPTS, BUT, AND THEN IT SAYS, ADVERTISED FOR BIDDING, BUT YOU SAY YOU ALREADY AWARDED THE PROJECT, THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT? JUST THE DESIGN, NOT THE, YES.
NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION.
I'M SORRY IF THAT CONFUSED ANYBODY.
YEAH, WE WERE, WE WERE SELECTED TO JUST SIMPLY DO THE DESIGN AND GET THE PROJECT TO A BIDDABLE STATE.
UM, SO ONCE WE, ONCE WE HAVE THAT SURVEY AND WE START THE DESIGN, UH, WE PREPARE WHAT ARE CONSIDERED PRELIMINARY PLANS AND A, AND A DESIGN REPORT THEY CALL IT, WHICH IS LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL SUMMARY FOR BETTER OR WORSE, UH, SOME PROJECTS, LARGER PROJECTS DEVELOPED.
YOU MIGHT HEAR THE TERM EIS, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
WELL, THIS IS LIKE A MINI EIS,
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UM, THAT STATE DOT WILL REVIEW THAT, PROVIDE COMMENTS, AND PROBABLY IN THAT TIMEFRAME IS WHEN WE'LL HOLD ANOTHER INFORMATIONAL MEETING WHEN WE'RE A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG AND WE CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHERE THE SIDEWALK PATH IS GONNA BE, WHAT IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE ON YOUR DRIVEWAY, THINGS LIKE THAT, OR LACK THEREOF, WE HOPE.UM, THEN, UH, WE GET THE COMMENTS BACK.
WE, YOU KNOW, DOT OUR I'S CROSS OUR T'S.
WE SATISFY ALL REQUIRED ENVIRONMENTAL AND HISTORICAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH THERE WILL NOT BE A LOT OF IMPACT IN THIS AREA.
WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE LEGWORK SO FAR.
UM, WE WILL THEN GET THAT FINAL, ESSENTIALLY TURN IT INTO WHAT IS CALLED A FINAL REPORT FROM THE DRAFT.
THEY GIVE US APPROVAL OF DESIGN, AND THEN WE FIND WE FINALIZE OUR BID DOCUMENTS, GO OUT TO BID, PICK THE IT, OR, AND THEN THE VILLAGE SAYS, OKAY, GO AHEAD.
UM, JUST A QUICK TOUCH ON, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, DOT HAS WHAT'S CALLED A HIGHWAY DESIGN MANUAL.
UM, SO WE FOLLOW THAT FOR OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY REQUIRE US TO USE AS A CONDITION OF RECEIVING THE MONEY.
UH, AND THEN PRO AG, WHICH IS BASICALLY A, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, SUBSET OF A-D-A-A-D-A ITSELF DOESN'T REALLY HAVE, DOESN'T SPEAK MUCH TO SIDEWALK IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO PRO AG WAS, UH, WAS ADOPTED FOR THOSE PURPOSES SCHEDULE.
SO HOW LONG IS THIS THING GONNA TAKE? WELL, ALL DEPENDS ON OUR FRIENDS IN, UH, POUGHKEEPSIE AT THE DOT.
SO WE'RE GONNA WORK TO HAVE THIS PRELIMINARY DESIGN WRAPPED UP BY THE SUMMERTIME, OF COURSE, CONTINGENT UPON RECEIVING THAT SURVEY.
UM, SO I'D BE FAIR TO SAY SPRING, SUMMER, UM, SUBMIT THOSE REPORTS, GET THE REVIEWS, GET THE COMMENTS ADDRESSED.
HOPEFULLY BY THE FALL WINTER TIME OF THIS YEAR, UM, WE HAVE PERMISSION TO THEN FINALIZE THE DESIGN WITH THAT BIG STAR RIGHT THERE, UM, CONTINGENT UPON DOT TIMELY REVIEW PERIODS, UH, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION MAYBE IN THE MIDDLE TO LATER PART OF 2027.
AND I'M BASING THAT JUST ON, WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS RIGHT NOW.
THEY HAVE SOMEWHAT OF UPWARDS OF 160 ACTIVE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE REVIEWING RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY ALWAYS ASK US TO TRY TO BE PATIENT, BUT SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE AND, UH, WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM ON POINT AND GET THESE PROJECTS THROUGH.
THEY'RE NOT OVERLY COMPLICATED AND THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE AS LONG AS THEY DO SOMETIMES, MY OPINION.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP THE DOT ON TASK AND, AND WORK WITH MARYBETH TO GET THIS ONE DONE AS SOON AS WE CAN.
IT'S NOT ON A DOT ROAD, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM TOO MUCH ON THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED, UH, VIA MARYBETH, AND SHE SHARED THEM WITH ME, AND WE'VE PUT, KIND OF CATEGORIZED THEM, NOT EVERY SPECIFIC QUESTION, BUT, UH, GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, THE TOPICS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND SOME, UH, RESPONSES TO THOSE TOPICS.
UM, SO THIS ONE WAS SOMEWHAT ALREADY ANSWERED, BUT JUST CLARIFYING THE PROJECT LIMITS THAT ARE IN FACT, RAVENSDALE ROAD TO MOUNT HOPE BOULEVARD, UH, AND INCLUDING, UH, THE PRESCOTT LANE STAIRCASE, UM, THAT WAS DEFINED WHEN THE FUNDING WAS APPLIED FOR AS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY ON.
UH, SO WE ARE BEHOLDEN TO THAT.
CAN THAT CHANGE? YES, TECHNICALLY IT CAN.
AND IT WAS ALSO ESTIMATED THAT THIS SEGMENT WOULD COST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY APPLIED FOR.
SO IF YOU START ADDING ON YOU, YOU, YOUR DOLLAR MIGHT NOT GO AS FAR.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO SEE IF THAT FIRST PASS OF AN ESTIMATE IS LIKE, OH, MAYBE WE GOT SOME EXTRA MONEY, WE CAN FIX THIS.
CAN'T PROMISE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT I WOULDN'T COUNT ON IT.
UH, PROJECT COSTS AND TAX IMPLICATIONS.
UH, I TURNED TO MARY MARYBETH FOR THE TAX IMPLICATIONS PART, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO THEN SUDDENLY RAISE YOUR TAXES, IS MY POINT.
IN FACT, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SIDEWALKS WOULD RAISE A PERSON'S TAXES AND, UM, TAXES, YOUR REAL PROPERTY TAXES THAT YOU PAY IN
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THE VILLAGE TO THE VARIOUS TAXING ENTITIES, THE SCHOOL, THE VILLAGE, THE TOWN, THE COUNTY, UH, THOSE ARE ALL DETERMINED BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FACTORS.ONE OF THEM IS THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME.
SO THE VALUE, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME WERE TO INCREASE AS A RESULT OF SIDEWALKS BEING PLACED IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME BY SOME, I IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULDN'T BE TOO, TOO LARGE, IF THAT DID HAPPEN.
BUT THEN YOU, THE VALUE, IF YOU, THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME INCREASES, THEN THAT IS, THAT IS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT DETERMINES WHAT YOUR ACTUAL TAXES ARE GOING TO BE.
IT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MULTIPLIERS.
UH, THE OTHER MULTIPLIERS ARE THE TAX RATE, WHICH IS A FUNCTION OF THE TAX, THE ALL OF THE, UH, TAXABLE PROPERTIES IN THAT PARTICULAR TAXING ENTITY.
OF COURSE, THAT'S, THAT'S ADOPTED BY THAT, THAT MUNICIPAL ENTITY SCHOOL, UH, YOU KNOW, EXCESS SCHOOL VILLAGE, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, AND IT, SO, SO WHETHER OR NOT YOUR TAXES WOULD OR WOULDN'T GO UP, DEPENDS ON THAT.
IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS TO THE VALUE OF OTHER HOUSES WITHIN THE TAXING MUNICIPALITY AS WELL.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, A SIMPLE, THE QUESTION CAN'T BE ANSWERED WITH A SIMPLE YES OR NO, BECAUSE IT'S GOT A LOT OF MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY ON IT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY, THANKS.
UH, BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL, THE, THE MONEY, THE 1.8 MILLION, UH, PLUS OR MINUS, UH, 80% OF THAT IS FEDERALLY FUNDED.
THE REMAINDER 20, THE REMAINING 20% IS VILLAGE FUNDED.
THE VILLAGE DOES HAVE TO FRONT THE MONEY, UH, AND PAY THE BILLS, ESSENTIALLY.
BUT THE GOOD THING IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE H'S BANK ACCOUNT OF $1.8 MILLION WHEN YOU START THE PROJECT, NOR DOES THE GOVERNMENT SEND YOU $1.8 MILLION WHEN YOU START THE PROJECT.
IT'S A ROLLING CASH FLOW TYPE THING.
THE BILL GETS PAID, YOU SUBMIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT, AND ABOUT TWO TO THREE MONTHS LATER THAT MONEY, 80% OF THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO THE VILLAGE.
AND IT JUST, IT ESSENTIALLY ROTATES AND KIND OF PAYS FOR ITSELF AS THE PROJECT MOVES ALONG.
UM, DRAINAGE CONCERNS? OH, YES, SIR.
FOR, FOR THE 20% THAT THE VILLAGE IS FRONTING, ARE THOSE FUNDS ALREADY IN RESERVE SOMEWHERE AND ALLOCATED FOR, OR IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ASSESSMENT OR OTHER COLLECTION MEANS THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS? THANK YOU.
UH, DRAINAGE, A HOT, FAIRLY HOT TOPIC EVEN EARLY ON.
UH, AND WE UNDERSTAND, UM, NUMBER ONE, THE AREA'S A LITTLE HILLY AND YOU GOT WATER COMING IN FROM THE SIDE STREETS.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST NUMBER ONE TO, LET'S FIRST UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE WITH THE WATER TODAY SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE DOES IT GO.
UH, CATHERINE AND I AND OUR, AND OUR ENGINEER WILL PROBABLY COME DOWN ON A PLAN TO COME DOWN ON A RAINY DAY SO WE CAN SEE IT.
'CAUSE PART OF IT IS YOU CAN GUESS WITH SOFTWARE AND, AND, AND MODELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S GREAT.
HOWEVER, WE REALLY WANT TO SEE STANDING OUT THERE WITH OUR UMBRELLAS, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE DOES IT COLLECT, WHERE IS IT POURING DOWN FROM? SO WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THAT FIRSTHAND.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
OF COURSE, I AM MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, ESPECIALLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARROW AND ROSEDALE.
NOW IN HEAVY RAINS, THAT AREA FLOODS.
I HAVE A DOWNSLOPING DRIVEWAY.
THE PRIOR OWNER IS ACTUALLY BUILT IN A HUMP, UM, TO HELP, TO HELP WHEN THE WATER RAISES AND ALL THE HOUSES ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET DO FLOOD.
BUT I HAVE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM, 'CAUSE I HAVE A DOWN SLOPING DRIVEWAY.
I KNOW EVERYONE GOT KILLED IN IDA ON OUR STREET, BUT WE GET KILLED IN OTHER STORMS ALSO.
THAT HUMP SAVES ME, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE IT AWAY.
DO, DO YOU MIND SHARING YOUR HOUSE NUMBER SO WE CAN LOOK? 65 ROSEDALE.
AND, AND REALLY THE, THE AREA, THAT INTERSECTION, I'M, UH, TWO HOUSES AWAY FROM IT.
THAT AREA DOES FLOOD JUST IN GENERAL.
FLOODS AT ARROW, UH, MERRILL STREET AND, AND ROSEDALE.
AND I'M SURE THAT MOST FOLKS IN HERE CAN HAVE A SIMILAR
SO SAME THING, I LIVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TOWARDS RAVENSDALE.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH TWO SETS OF CARS IN FLOODING, UM, FIRST WITH IDA AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, WE'VE SINCE PUT IN A LOT OF MONEY
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FOR OUR FLOOD MITIGATION AND DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR SPECIFIC PLANS ARE FOR TRYING TO HELP WITH THE STORM DRAINAGE.UM, WE HAVE VIDEOS OF WHAT OUR, IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S POURING RAIN AND IT'S ALL COMING STRAIGHT INTO OUR BASEMENT.
I, I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT DRAINAGE AS MUCH AS, UM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT'S THERE, THE SYSTEM, THE PIPES THAT ARE IN THE GROUND, THE SIZES, ARE THEY CAPABLE OF HANDING, HANDLING TODAY'S FLOWS VERSUS WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN THE GROUND 60, 70, 80 YEARS AGO.
UM, PAYING SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THOSE CORNERS, UH, WHERE WATER CAN COLLECT.
I MEAN, IF YOU ARE WALKING AND YOU GOT A PUDDLE THERE, OBVIOUSLY NOT ATTRACTIVE 20 YEARS.
UM, SO YES, UM, I CAN'T PROMISE THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO MAKE, UH, THE ROAD FLOOD FREE, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST WITHIN THE AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, UH, TO COLLECT AS MUCH WATER THAT'S NOT BEING COLLECTED TODAY AS WE CAN.
THE ONE, THE ONE THING WE DON'T WANNA DO IS OVERCHARGE THE SYSTEM.
AND, AND WE'LL SEE HOW FAR THE DOLLARS CAN GET US, UH, ONCE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE GROUND AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
MA'AM, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, INCLUDING THE DRAIN, THE MICROPHONE, YOU YEAH.
THIS IS BEING RECORDED SO THE MICROPHONE HELPS BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE IS NOT A PART OF THIS PROJECT.
LIKE, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M GUESSING THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM COULD TELL YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT NO, THE DRAINAGE IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR, FOR THE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT ENDS UP ON ROSEDALE IN A HEAVY RAINSTORM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
LIKE, WE'RE SORT OF STUCK WITH THE DRAINAGE, RIGHT? YES.
THAT EXISTS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
THE VILLAGE, I MEAN, THE WATER'S COMING FROM, WELL, OUTSIDE OF, OF THE ROAD.
SO YES, THE, THE VILLAGE WIDE ISSUE OF DRAINAGE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS PROJECT CAN POSSIBLY SOLVE ALL ON ITS OWN.
BUT WHAT WE CAN TRY TO DO IS CAPTURE WHAT WE CAN, UM, BY PUTTING IN CATCH BASINS WHERE THEY DON'T EXIST, UH, TYING INTO THE, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME PIPES BIGGER, FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S ALL GOING.
AND IF THE DOWNSTREAM SYSTEM, SO IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE YOUR WATER GOES INTO GROUND, IT GOES, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE PIPES, IT GOES DOWNHILL AND IT GOES, I THINK ULTIMATELY TO THE HUDSON.
UM, MAYBE ON, ON WHERE YOU ARE OF THE SAWMILL RIVER.
OH, BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TRA TRY TO JUST TRACE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN AND SOLVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE VILLAGE'S FLOODING PROBLEM WITH THIS ONE PROJECT.
SO, OH, SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, IF MY, SO IF MY PER, IF THE, IF THE DRAINAGE SOLUTION THAT I'VE COME UP WITH ON MY PROPERTY, SO I HAVE A, A, UM, BELOW GRADE GARAGE DOOR.
AND I HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT KEEPS THE WATER FROM GOING INTO THE GARAGE, IF THAT INTERFERES WITH A DA, WHICH ISSUE I IS, UH, TAKES PRECEDENCE.
UM, WELL, I WILL SAY, UH, IF YOU ARE, WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE HOUSES A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL TODAY.
DO YOU LIVE ON THE MORE NORTHERN PART UP BY MOUNT HOPE, OR DO YOU NOT? 'CAUSE THERE WAS A PARTICULAR HOUSE I HA I HAVE IN MIND THAT HAD A GARAGE THAT'S DEFINITELY BELOW THE ROAD.
A LOT OF 'EM DO, BUT I'M 9 98 98, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT WAS, UM, THE, THE SIDEWALK ALWAYS WILL SLOPE TOWARD THE ROAD.
SO THE SIDEWALK WON'T ADD TO THE PROBLEM.
IT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP, UM, BY KEEP ALMOST FORMING A SMALL BARRIER.
UH, IF WATER IS COMING IN NOW FROM THE STREET AND POURING IN, UM, IT WON'T, THE SIDEWALK WON'T BE TIPPED BACK TO YOUR DRIVEWAY IS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
IT WILL BE POINTED TOWARD THE ROAD IF THAT, IF THAT HELPS.
I MEAN WE, I GUESS WE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF MY YEAH.
ROSEDALE IS A VALLEY AND THE WATER POURS DOWN.
OH, THE WATER POURS DOWN ON BOTH SIDES AND IT LANDS ON ROSEDALE AT THE BOTTOM.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
JUST, UM, ACTUALLY THIS IS TO, UM, THE VILLAGE MANAGER.
CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW MUCH OF THE FLOOD STUDY THAT I UNDERSTAND HAS BEEN DONE IN THE VILLAGE? HOW MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION IS ALREADY IN
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HAND? THANKS.UM, THE FLOOD STUDY THAT WE, WE HAVE DONE IS REALLY, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S VERY PRELIMINARY.
IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS IDENTIFIED ALL OF THE VARIOUS DRAINAGE BASINS WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR DRAINAGE BASIN, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE DRAINAGE BASIN.
IT KIND OF, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY I THINK A STREAM THAT RUNS UNDERNEATH, UM, ROSEDALE.
AND IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, THAT'S KIND OF THE STARTING AREA 'CAUSE IT'S ALSO VERY FLAT THERE.
AND THEN IT GOES DOWN THROUGH DAN RYLE PARK AND BEHIND THE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE, THE ALONG FARRAGUT AVENUE.
AND WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE, UM, A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THAT.
STARTING AT THE END, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO START.
WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING A, WHAT'S CALLED A WET DETENTION POND, UH, ON, ON FA ON FARGATE PARKWAY DOWN NEAR, UH, NEAR NEAR THE SAWMILL RIVER.
IT'S GONNA BE, AND THAT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT 44 ACRES OF DRAINAGE, UH, OUT OF THE SYSTEM, DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER.
SO, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A KIND OF A COM IT IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE, THE DRAINAGE IN THE VILLAGE.
UM, THERE'S, UH, YOU GUYS FLOOD PEOPLE BEYOND YOU, UH, IN THE FENWICK AREA.
ALSO FLOOD, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT SAME, UM, PRO THAT SAME WATER, WATER COURSE ESSENTIALLY.
UH, SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WHILE THE SIDEWALKS ARE BEING INSTALLED, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE CAN BE SOMETHING DONE TO, UH, TO, TO HELP WITH THE FLOODING PROBLEMS. AND I THINK THE INTENTION ALWAYS IS NOT TO MAKE THEM ANY WORSE THAN THEY ARE FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER, FOR SURE.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO DO.
BUT IT'S THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A SIDEWALK PROJECT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PANACEA FOR THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT YOU EXPERIENCE.
BUT WE ARE, UM, CURRENTLY HAVING A SURVEY OF ALL OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM OF THE ENTIRE VILLAGE DONE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE ARE ALSO, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WE DO HAVE THE WET DETENTION POND PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE, WE, WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY BEEN AWARDED ADDITIONAL FEDERAL MONEY TO GO, TO GO EVEN FURTHER WITH THAT PROJECT.
SO THESE THINGS DO TAKE A LONG TIME.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY ANNOUNCED YOU GOT, YOU GET FEDERAL MONEY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CAN START THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, THE DETAILS, THE CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO BE.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE VILLAGES IS TAKING STORMWATER VERY SERIOUSLY AND WORKING VERY HARD TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, UH, IN PARTICULAR IN IN YOUR AREA AS WELL AS IN ELSEWHERE IN THE VILLAGE.
YOU WANNA TAKE YEAH, REALLY QUICK.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THE ON ROSEDALE HAVE THE DOWN SLOPING.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT, BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THEM THAT HAS A DOWN, AND WE DO HAVE FLOODS A LOT, UM, IS WE'LL DECIDE WE'LL MAKE IT WORSE.
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WEREN'T WHEN, WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN WAS BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING THE GRASS, WE'RE LOSING SOIL, AND YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT NOW WORSE BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA PUT CONCRETE.
AND SO WATER WON'T BE ABLE TO AB ABSORB, BE ABSORBED DOWN.
AND SO WILL THAT MAKE AN EFFECT? AND YES, IT'S NOT A DREDGE PROBLEM, YOUR PROJECT, BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE WORSE THAN WE ALREADY ARE DEALING WITH.
AND WHAT I CAN SAY THERE IS, UM, WE DO TRY TO KEEP SPACE BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK THAT IS GRASPED.
AND WE DO TRY AND WE, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THE SIDEWALK POINTS AWAY FROM THE HOUSE SO THAT WHEN WATER DOES HIT IT, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T ADD TO ANY MORE THAT IT'S ALREADY GOING ONTO YOUR PROPERTY.
IT POINTS IT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION TOWARD THE ROAD TO GET IT IN THE ROAD AND INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO WITH, WITH A SIDEWALK, IS TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T, IN FACT POINT THE WATER ONTO YOUR PROPERTY.
IT'LL BE SLOPED SLIGHTLY TO DRAIN TOWARDS THE ROAD.
DID YOU WANT, HAS THAW BEEN PUT INTO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS AN IMPOSSIBLE CONDITION AND HAVING SOMEBODY TIE INTO THE EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEMS, LIKE PUMP DIRECTLY INTO IT, LET'S SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT RATHER THAN,
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YOU KNOW, JUST HOPING THE PITCH OF THE SIDEWALK IS GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM? UH, YOU MEAN LIKE A ANY KIND OF MECHANICAL PUMP TYPE? I'M, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR THAT LAST PART.YOU'D BE, YOU KNOW, IN MANHATTAN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO BE ABLE TO TIE INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM DIRECTLY FROM THE BUILDING WITH SOME SORT OF SUMP PUMP, YOU, YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T DO THAT HERE.
UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PERMISSIBLE BY LAW TO, EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN DRAINAGE ON, ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, HOW IT WORKS HERE,
BUT, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
UH, SO IF, IF THE ENGINEERS ARE SAYING THAT THE STREET AND SIDEWALK PROJECT CANNOT ALLEVIATE THE DRAIN OVERALL DRAINAGE PROBLEM OF THE AREA, WILL THERE BE A QUANTITATIVE CONCLUSION ABOUT THAT? AND WILL YOU COMMUNICATE TO THE HOMEOWNERS SAYING, ONCE WE DO THIS THING, WE KNOW WE CANNOT MOVE THE WATER OUT OF YOUR BASEMENTS AND YOUR LAWNS.
AND THEREFORE THE PUBLIC CAN THEN ASSESS WHETHER THIS IS WORTH DOING OR NOT.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T FIX THE PROPERTIES, ONLY THE SIDEWALK, IS THERE GONNA BE A QUANTITATIVE CONCLUSION ABOUT THAT, THAT YOU'LL PRESENT? AND THEN MAYBE THE VILLAGE COULD HAVE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS? RIGHT.
WE, WE WOULD DO A, A SORT OF WHAT WE'D CALL LIKE A PRE AND A POST.
UM, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, AND THEN WE WOULD THEN MODEL IT AGAIN AND DO THE CALCULATIONS WITH EVERYTHING IN PLACE AND BE ABLE TO SEE, ARE WE MAKING IT WORSE OR NOT? AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO KNOW FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM MAKE IT WORSE.
WHAT'S THE, BECAUSE THE, THE PROBLEMS ARE, ARE VILLAGE WIDE AND NOT JUST ISOLATED TO THIS STREET.
SO IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR THIS ROAD, THIS PROJECT TO SOLVE THE VILLAGE'S STORM WATER PROBLEMS IN, IN THE WHOLE, HI, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ADMIT THAT I WANNA SAY SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO ASKING A QUESTION BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION HAS, UM, REALLY EMPHASIZED, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL BEN BENEFIT TO HOMEOWNERS.
I AM A HOMEOWNER ON ROSEDALE, NOT THAT SECTION, BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA, I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT BEEN STATED STRONGLY ENOUGH WHY WE NEED SIDEWALKS.
WE DIDN'T EVEN START THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT THERE IS A PUBLIC GOOD TO SIDEWALKS, THERE'S A PUBLIC GOOD TO CHILDREN BEING ABLE TO WALK TO SCHOOL WITHOUT GETTING POTENTIALLY HIT BY CARS.
UM, SO THERE ARE MANY INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BENEFITS TO THIS PROJECT, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S VOICED AS WELL.
UM, I DON'T THINK ONE PROJECT CAN ADDRESS EVERY CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
SO I HOPE THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE.
AND NOT TO SAY THE CONCERN SHOULDN'T BE HEARD, BUT WE'VE NOW SPENT THIS ENTIRE TIME TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE PROBLEMS ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY OR ON THE STREET, UM, AND, AND NOT TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER MAJOR REASON WHY WE NEED SIDEWALKS.
SO I THINK WITH THAT, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY PROCEED TO TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE'RE VERY EARLY ON AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK MORE INTO THIS AND I, AND I PROMISE THAT, UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE, UH, RECEIVED, UH, WHAT HAPPENS TO HEDGES OR FENCES THAT MIGHT BE IN THE WAY, UH, IN THE PATH OF THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK? WELL, UH, IF WE CAN'T AVOID IT, AND IT'S JUST A SIMPLE FACT THAT THERE'S A HEDGE ROW IN THE PLACE WHERE THE SIDEWALK SHOULD BE GOING, UM, THE PROJECT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PAY FOR EITHER REPLANT, TAKING THAT OUT, REPLANTING IT, MOVING IT, OR EVEN IF THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, BUYING NEW.
AND THAT GO WOULD GO FOR A FENCE.
IF THE FENCE WAS IN THE WAY, WE'D EITHER MOVE THE FENCE OR THE PROJECT WOULD BUY A NEW FENCE.
UM, WE'RE NOT HERE TO JUST RIP SOMETHING OUT AND NOT COMPENSATE YOU FAIRLY IN, IN A REPLACEMENT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
UH, STONE DRIVEWAY APRONS ANOTHER, UM, POPULAR FEATURE OUT HERE.
UM, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT I, I DO HAVE TO SAY UNFORTUNATELY, THAT STONE DRIVEWAY APRONS ARE NOT A DA COMPLIANT, AND THE, THE CONCRETE ITSELF WOULD NEED TO CONTINUOUSLY FLOW THROUGH THOSE APRONS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THE STONE WOULD NOT BE SIMPLY DISCARDED.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE THAT, AND PERHAPS WE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO THEN MAYBE PLACE THAT STONE THAT IS TAKEN OUT FROM THE, THE SWATH WHERE THE
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SIDEWALK GOES TO EITHER PUT IT ON THE BACKSIDE OR DO SOMETHING CREATIVE WITH IT.UM, BUT THAT IS AN UNFORTUNATE, UH, REALITY OF HAVING A SIDEWALK, IS THAT IT DOES NEED TO BE, UH, ONE CONTINUOUS MATERIAL, UH, NOT ONE CONTINUOUS MATERIAL, BUT ONE CONTINUOUS FLOW, UM, OF A, OF A SMOOTH SLIP RESISTANT SURFACE.
SO THE STONE WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT, UH, ACCESS TO THE DRIVEWAYS WITH THE ADDITION OF SIDEWALK.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A SIDEWALK WHERE THERE ISN'T ONE NOW, BECAUSE THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK OUT THERE NOW.
AND, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LIVING WITH THAT, UM, YOU'VE ALREADY KIND OF GOT AN ESTABLISHED WAY IN AND OUT OF YOUR DRIVEWAY.
AND IF YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE.
HOWEVER, IN THE AREAS WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS GOING, WHERE IT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY, UM, WHETHER YOU HAVE SIDEWALK OR NOT, EVERY DRIVEWAY IS GONNA GET LOOKED AT IN, IN DETAIL.
THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION THAT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND WE PUT A SLIGHTLY TILTED SIDEWALK, UM, HOW FAR BACK DO WE NEED TO GO? DO WE NEED TO GO FAR BACK AT ALL? DO WE NEED TO GO INTO YOUR DRIVEWAY AT ALL? WE WOULD DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU, SHOW YOU DEMONSTRATE TO YOU, UH, WHAT THE EFFECTS ARE, ONE BY ONE.
UM, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT EVERY DRIVEWAY AND IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT CAN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THE VILLAGE'S PROPERTY, THEN WE WOULD APPROACH THAT OWNER.
WE MAY NOT NEED TO BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME.
UM, REPLACING THAT SIDEWALK IS LIKELY NOT GONNA REQUIRE, IS NOT GONNA CAUSE IT TO HAVE TO GO INTO YOUR DRIVEWAY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT THERE NOW AND YOU INSTALL IT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IMPACT YOU.
MY CONCERN IS, AND I KNOW THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL CONCERN IN PUBLIC MEETING, BUT I DON'T WANT THE GRADE LOWER.
THE, WHEN YOU HIT MY PROPERTY, THERE'S A GRADE UP TO THE, FROM THE, FROM THE OTHER PROPERTY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
AND THE WATER, WHEN THE STREET FLOODS MOST OFTEN DOESN'T GO ABOVE MY SIDEWALK.
I'M VERY CONCERNED YOU'RE GONNA LEVEL IT DOWN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WHEN IT'S BEING DONE.
IT MAY LOOK NICER IF IT'S ALL LEVEL, BUT I DO HAVE A BUMP OR A HILL WHERE MY DRIVEWAY IS THAT I WANT TO PRESERVE TO PREVENT FLOODING.
YEAH, A AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT EACH SPECIFIC HOME.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR JOB TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CONSULTING, I'M SORRY, ONLY IF SOMEONE TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND, AND WHAT CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE MADE AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MADE.
UM, SO THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH US AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE, I HAVE EVERYBODY'S CONTACT.
I THINK MOST, MOST EVERYBODY ON THE STREET BETWEEN, UH, MOUNT HOPE AND ROSEDALE S CONTACT INFORMATION NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL APPRISE YOU OF WHEN MEETINGS ARE HELD THAT SO THAT YOU CAN, UH, STAY ABREAST AND WHERE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE THE PLANS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, I THINK THAT THE ISSUE THAT HE JUST DESCRIBED CANNOT BE OVERSTATED, THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
THE SITUATION THAT I THINK EXISTS ON A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, WHICH IS THAT THOSE STONE APRONS ARE LIKE LITTLE DAMS AND THEY KEEP THE, THEY KEEP THE FLOOD THAT COMES DOWN ROSEDALE FROM GOING INTO OUR HOUSES.
AND A LOT OF US HAD ABOUT TWO FEET OF WATER IN OUR HOUSE DURING IDA AND HAVE HAD, THERE'S BEEN OTHER STORMS. UM, SO WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE.
UM, BUT WE ARE, IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU'RE DISMANTLING THE LITTLE DAMS THAT WE ALL HAVE CREATED.
AND I LOVE THAT YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA COME IN THE RAIN.
UM, SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT WHAT HE JUST SAID.
IF NOTHING, IF YOU REMEMBER NOTHING ELSE AT THIS MEETING, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT.
AND, UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE, THE PUBLIC GOOD OR THE VALUE OF SIDEWALKS.
UM, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T HA THAT, THAT WE DON'T CREATE, UM, A SITUATION THAT IS GOING TO FILL OUR HOUSES WITH WATER.
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AND THAT RIGHT, THAT, THAT DIS HIS DESCRIPTION IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.THAT IS A SITUATION THAT EXISTS IN FRONT OF A LOT OF HOUSES.
UM, AND IT SHOULD BE LIKE, CAREFUL, HE, WHAT HE JUST DESCRIBED SHOULD BE CAREFULLY DOCUMENTED, CONTEMPLATED, PLANNED FOR.
UM, I THINK THAT WE, THAT EVERYBODY WHO HAS THAT SITUATION SHOULD, UM, BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THESE, THESE, THESE, THESE, I'LL CALL THEM DAMS 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE THERE FOR DECORATIVE PURPOSES, BUT THEY'RE, THAT'S, THEY'RE NOT JUST THERE BECAUSE THEY LOOK NICE.
UM, AND YOU JUST MEANT, YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THEM ALL OUT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T SATISFY A DA REQUIREMENTS.
SO I MEAN, LIKE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT NOW INSTEAD OF YOU GUYS GOING OFF MAKING YOUR PLANS AND THEN HAVING US ALL COMPLAIN THAT OUR HOUSES ARE GONNA FILL, FILLED WITH, WITH WATER.
LIKE, THAT SHOULD BE WHAT WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN THE VERY BEGINNING BEFORE WE OKAY.
GO DOWN THIS PATH OF DISMANTLING THE SYSTEMS THAT WE'VE ALL CREATED PROPERTY.
NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT ALL VILLAGE PROPERTY PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE A DEBATE HERE BETWEEN PEOPLE AS TO, I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ALSO.
UM, OFTENTIMES A DRIVEWAY WILL HAVE KIND OF A, A, A MOUND ON IT AT, AT THE ENTRYWAY TO THE DRIVEWAY.
IT'S MADE IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BOTTOM OUT.
IT'S GOTTA BE LONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T BOTTOM OUT.
BUT IT, IT RAISES THE, IT IT RAISES A BIT BEFORE IT LOWERS IN ORDER TO KEEP THE, THE, UM, 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, EVEN IF, EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE CURBS, WHEN YOU GET TO A DRIVEWAY, THE CURB OBVIOUSLY GOES DOWN AND IT'S ONLY HAS ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF OF REVEAL, MAYBE TWO INCHES IF YOU'RE LUCKY.
AND SO THAT'S HOW THE WATER COMES INTO A DRIVEWAY.
AND OFTEN THE DRIVEWAY IS SHAPED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT BEFORE IT GOES DOWN TO IF YOU HAVE A DOWN, YOU KNOW, A DOWNWARD GOING DRIVEWAY.
UM, SO I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE MADE, WAS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING WAS MADE OUTTA STONE, RIGHT? BUT THE, WHY DON'T YOU FIGURE THAT OUT, RIGHT? LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THAT'S GONNA BE RESOLVED? WELL, BECAUSE BEFORE, UNTIL THEY DO THE SURVEY AND THEY, AND THEY LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND SEE, MAYBE HAVE TO MOVE THE BUMP BACK A LITTLE BIT.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARTICULAR ANSWER IS IN EVERY, IN EVERY, YOU KNOW, SITUATION.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THE ENGINEERS A CHANCE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT IT, GET, HAVE THE SURVEY INFORMATION BECAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, SOMETIMES YOU CAN VISUALIZE SOMETHING, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW IS THAT LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A 2% SLOPE, BUT 1% SLOPE? I MEAN, UNTIL THE, THE ENGINEERS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT KIND OF DATA.
BUT I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS FOR SURE.
AND, UM, I'M SURE THAT YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERN IS.
AND SO WE ARE AWARE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO IGNORE THAT.
UM, SOME, A LOT, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE YOUR SIDEWALK ALONG, YOU KNOW, THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE SORT OF, UH, I'LL CALL IT A BUMP, BUT THERE'S A, ACTUALLY A TECHNICAL NAME FOR IT, WHICH I CAN'T REMEMBER AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME.
AND, AND THAT IS BEHIND IT, CLOSER, CLOSER, YOU KNOW, IN TOWARDS YOUR PROPERTY, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
BUT I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AS, AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
UH, I'M, I'M GLAD EVERYONE IS BRINGING UP THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THIS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, THAT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
SO, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A TRICKY BALANCING ACT, BE BE FROM SERVING THE PUBLIC, BUT NOT MAKING IT ANY WORSE THAN IT IS TODAY, IN FACT, TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER IN THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, DEFINITELY HEAR YOU ON THIS AND WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA TAKE EXTRA SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THIS.
UM, AGAIN, IF WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS.
UM, IF I MAY, I DID WANNA RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, UH, AND NOT TO IGNORE THEM, HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT PARTICULAR TO THIS PROJECT, BUT JUST IN FAIRNESS TO THOSE WHO DID ASK THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE LACK OF SIDEWALK ALONG HAMILTON AVENUE, UM, THE CROSSING AT HAMILTON AND MOUNT HOPE PARKING ON MOUNT HOPE ITSELF NEAR THE SCHOOL AND THE STAIRCASE BETWEEN ROSEDALE AND WILSON, AGAIN, THE VILLAGE MANAGER HEARS YOU.
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THESE ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR PROJECT LIMITS, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS, UM, THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS ON HAMILTON, FOR EXAMPLE, AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT.BUT KNOWING THAT INFORMATION MIGHT SERVE, UH, A FUTURE PROJECT.
SO, UM, THAT THE VILLAGE CERTAINLY HAS THAT INFORMATION.
UH, AT THIS POINT I WAS GONNA TAKE, PUT UP A, WHAT WE'RE CALLING LIKE AN OVERVIEW PLAN, TOP DOWN, MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ISSUES IN A, IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UM, TO SHOW YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOU, WE UNDERSTAND, UM, SOME OF THE JUST KIND OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, IF YOU WILL.
UM, SO I'M GONNA CLOSE POWERPOINT AND I HOPE THIS TRANSLATES WELL FOR EVERYONE.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE KIND OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, WE DIVIDE IT UP THE ROAD TO FIGURE OUT THE SECTIONS THAT HAVE SIDEWALK, THE SECTIONS THAT DON'T, AND JUST MAYBE LIKE A REPRESENTATIVE PHOTO FROM THAT PARTICULAR SECTION TO SHOW GENERALLY WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO MY THOUGHT WAS WE, WE WOULD WALK UP ONE SIDE, THE, THE EAST SIDE UP TO MOUNT HOPE, AND THEN WALK BACK DOWN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
UM, SO GENERALLY HERE, STARTING IN RAVENSDALE AND HEADING NORTH IS TO YOUR LEFT TOWARD THE SCHOOL TOWARD NICHOLS.
UM, THIS IS GENERALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE SIDEWALK WITH THE GRASS BUFFER IN FRONT.
THE CURB, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS THERE, IT'S SUNK LOW IN SOME PLACES, BUT THIS IS GENERALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN RAVENSDALE AND NICHOLS FOR A COUPLE OF THE HOUSES HERE.
THEN AFTER WE REACH NICHOLS AND WE'RE HEADING NORTH TOWARDS MARYLAND, HAMILTON, UH, RIGHT ABOUT HERE IS WHERE THIS PHOTO IS TAKEN, WHERE, OKAY, HERE'S A SECTION WHERE WE'RE FAIRLY LIMITED IN THE AVAILABLE SPACE WE HAVE, BUT A SIDEWALK WOULD PROBABLY TUCK IN PRETTY NICELY IN THIS SPACE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN AN AREA LIKE THIS.
UH, AND AGAIN, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY, I WON'T SAY IT FOR EVERY PHOTO FROM HERE ON OUT, BUT MAKE SURE THAT CURB IS RAISED UP PROPERLY, UM, JUST YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, OF PAVING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT TENDS TO GET BURIED OVER TIME.
SO WE'RE HERE TO CORRECT THAT DEFICIENCY AND WE'D CARRY THAT THROUGH.
AND WE, WE KNOW THIS ISLAND IS A LITTLE SLOPED AND A A LITTLE BUMPY, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE EXTRA CARE WITH THAT ISLAND TO SEE THE BEST WAY TO GET THE SIDEWALK ACROSS THIS, UM, THIS TRIANGULAR INTERSECTION.
NOW WE'VE COME TO, TO 60 NORTH OF MERRILL, AND WE'RE BACK TO HAVING SOME SIDEWALK, MOSTLY CONCRETE.
THERE'S A LITTLE SECTION HERE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE ASPHALT WAS USED AT ONE POINT TO DO A REPAIR.
WE DO HAVE A TREE HERE THAT IS STICKING OUT.
UH, THE ROOT SYSTEM IS PRETTY MUCH COMPROMISED THE SIDEWALK.
SO, UH, IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, UH, WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO PRESERVE THE TREE WITHOUT DAMAGING THE TREE.
THE TREE MIGHT HAVE TO GO, BUT WE'LL DO, MAKE ALL EFFORTS TO SAVE IT IF WE CAN.
BECAUSE IF WE LEAVE IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IF WE PUT A NEW SIDEWALK IN FIVE YEARS LATER, IT MIGHT POP UP AGAIN AND BECOME DAMAGED AND BECOME A LIABILITY TO THE VILLAGE.
SO AREAS LIKE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WE WANT TO PAY A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ATTENTION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THIS TREE? IS IT, IS IT ALIVE? IS IT FLOURISHING? IS IT A DEAD TREE THAT'S GONNA FALL DOWN? ANYWAY, THAT'S THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO FIND OUT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL CONDITION, AT LEAST OVER IN FRONT, 82, TOWARDS 90.
AND WE'RE APPROACHING PRESCOTT, AND I WAS RUNNING OUTTA ROOM HERE.
WE HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS ON THE CORNER OF PRESCOTT WHERE THEY HAVE THIS LITTLE DECORATIVE WALL.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHO MAINTAINS THIS, IF THIS IS VILLAGE OR PROPERTY OWNER MAINTAINED, BUT EITHER WAY, UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN SAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF IT'S IN THE FAVOR OF THE VILLAGE AND, AND THE PUBLIC TO WANT TO PRESERVE A DECORATIVE TREATMENT LIKE THIS AS LONG AS, UH, WE CAN MAKE OUR WAY AROUND IT SAFELY, UH, AND CREATE PROPER, UH, A DA COMPLIANT SIDEWALKS AND RAMPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UH, WE JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE THESE FEATURES AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST COMPLETELY BLOW THEM OUT IF, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF
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THEY'RE BEING MAINTAINED AND AND PEOPLE LIKE THEM.I WON'T, I WON'T, I WON'T NAME THE BUILDER.
I WILL JUST NOTE THAT DECORATIVE THING ON THE CORNER, IT WAS DONE A LITTLE BIT FOR SAFETY.
SO WE COULDN'T TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT IT, BUT IT WAS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE FACT THAT CARS TEND TO WHIP AROUND THAT CORNER.
SO THAT, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.
AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S, AND IF IT'S THERE, IT'S WORKING AND IT'S NOT DOING ANY HARM, YOU KNOW, NO NEED TO, TO REMOVE IT.
WE'LL GO UP, UH, TAKE A DETOUR HERE.
UH, I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD PICTURE OF THE STAIRCASE, SO I WENT AND TOOK ONE EARLIER TODAY.
UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, SO UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE ANY FRESH PICTURES WITHOUT THE SNOW IN PLACE, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE CARDS TO DO YOU A REPAIR, A REHABILITATION OF THE STAIRCASE TO MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY CODE COMPLIANT.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION, SIR.
WE DONE, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THAT I KNOW YOU NO SHOUTING IN MARIE.
UM, I'M GLAD YOU GOT THAT QUESTION.
UM, NO, NO, THE PHOTO, UM, WHO'S, CAN YOU SAY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTUALLY CLEANING THOSE STAIRS OF SNOW RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT IN GREAT, UH, REPAIR, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, FENCED OFF.
SO I'M CURIOUS FOR NOW ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR, UH, FOR THAT IN TERMS OF SNOW.
UM, SINCE THIS VILLAGE IS FIXING THOSE STAIRS, THE VILLAGE MUST OWN THOSE STAIRS.
WE WOULD NOT BE FIXING THEM IF WE DID NOT OWN THEM.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
OTHER THAN
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO MY ATTENTION.
I'M WORKING OUR WAY BETWEEN PRESCOTT AND MOUNT HOPE.
UM, HERE'S, HERE IS THE EXAMPLE I WAS THINKING OF IN MY BRAIN WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SUNKEN GARAGES AND HOW, YEAH, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE'S A HUMP HERE, UM, THAT TRIES TO GET SOME OF THE WATER OUT TOWARD THE ROAD BEFORE IT THEN DIVES DOWN.
UH, SO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE DON'T JUST COME AND FLATTEN THIS WHOLE THING OUT, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE, AS HAS BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED AT LENGTH HERE, THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE POINT THAT WATER AWAY FROM THE HOME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT PLAN FOR THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW, UH, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA THEN TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT ACROSS THE STREET AND MAYBE IMPROVE SOME OF THE CURB RAMPS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, AVAILABLE BUDGET AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT AND IF IT'S IN THE BEST, UH, INTEREST OF THE AVAILABLE MONEY TO DO THAT.
BUT WE CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A, A POPULAR ROUTE FOR CHILDREN.
SO, UH, WE'LL INCORPORATE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY WHAT WE CAN THERE, THERE'S A SHORT RUN OF SIDEWALK HERE ON THE CORNER, AND I THINK THIS NEXT PHOTO PROBABLY ILLUSTRATES PRETTY WELL, UM, WHAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
YOU HAVE, WE'RE ENDING AT, SORRY, I ASKED ARE YOU'RE NOT GOING FURTHER DOWN.
MOUNT HOPE IT'S BETWEEN, OH, WELL, IS IT THAT ROSEDALE TOO? I'M SORRY.
OH, SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TO HILLSIDE.
NO, NOT, IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO HILLSIDE.
WELL, ROSEDALE IS GOES THROUGH, BUT THEN IT GETS TO HILLSIDE, RIGHT? YES.
DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DID, YEAH.
YOU, THIS MIGHT HELP JUST TO RE REFRESH.
WE'RE GONNA STOP HERE AND NOT CONTINUE, UH, UP ROSEDALE.
SO WORKING OUR WAY BACK DOWN, I THINK THIS SORT OF CAPTURES A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
SO OBVIOUSLY HERE WE HAVE OUR STONE APRON THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED
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AND WE UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, THE IMPORTANCE OF, YOU COULD SEE THAT THAT CLEARLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A TWO DIMENSIONAL PHOTO, THAT THAT IS PUSHING DOWNWARD.UM, WHEN, WHEN I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT REMOVING, UH, A PORTION OF, UH, NOT THE WHOLE THING, ONLY WHAT WE ONLY IF YOU IMAGINE DRAWING A LINE ACROSS THIS IS SORT OF WHAT WE ENVISION EARLY ON.
AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE PERFECT SOLUTION, THE PERFECT PLAN, BUT JUST TO BE CONTINUOUS WITH THIS ROUTE.
SO WE WOULDN'T GO AHEAD AND JUST RIP ALL THE STONE OUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT WE WOULD ONLY TOUCH WHAT NEEDS TO BE TOUCHED TO ACCOMMODATE THE SIDEWALK AND LEAVE STONE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT.
UM, THAT'S SORT OF THE ROUGH EARLY THOUGHT AS TO WHAT WE WOULD DO AT THESE APRONS.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE I'M, PLEASE, YES, THANKS
AND ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE A PERFECTLY CONTINUOUS SURFACE WITHOUT CUTTING OUT THAT STONE, THAT IT STILL WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH A DA BECAUSE A DA REQUIRES THAT IT ACTUALLY BE THE SAME MATERIAL.
UH, THAT'S, I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.
GOOD, BECAUSE YOU GOT MY, MY BRAIN TURNING HERE AS TO MAYBE WE COULD WORK WITH THE DOT TO SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE FILL IN SOME OF THE GAPS AND LEAVE THE STONE.
SO I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT AND I THINK, UM, WE'LL WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS AT THE DOT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE THE LAST PEOPLE WHO COME OUT HERE AND SAY, THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
YOU GOTTA REPLACE THAT AT YOUR OWN COST.
SO BEFORE, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION.
I, I SEE THESE FOLKS AT DOT REGULARLY AS WE WORK ON SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH THEM.
I CAN BRING THAT UP AS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, SHOW 'EM A PHOTO AND SAY, IF WE WERE TO SMOOTH THIS OUT IN SOME POSSIBLE WAY TO WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DISTURB IT OR REMOVE IT, CAN WE DO THAT? SO WE LEAVE, WE LEAVE THE GRADE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AND TRY NOT TO DISTURB YOUR APRON.
UM, I'LL SAY THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT.
AND THAT'SS, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS.
HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF HEDGES THAT ARE, THERE'S NOT, NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR A SIDEWALK TO FIT IN THIS SPACE.
SO IN THE CASE OF THIS, UH, WE WOULD SEEK TO MOVE THESE BACK OUT OF THE WAY, UH, OR PLANT NEW ONES.
IF THEY'RE NOT TRANSPLANTABLE.
UM, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, CHECK WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FOLKS, OR WE HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE FOLKS IN OUR, IN OUR GROUP THAT CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT TELEPHONE.
THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE TELEPHONE CALL? YEAH, GREAT.
UM, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK WHEN WE GET THE SURVEY AS TO WHERE THE, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE IS.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER, AND AGAIN, I'M DRAWING OVER A, YOU KNOW, 2D OVER A 3D PHOTO, BUT LET'S SAY IT'S HERE VERSUS LIKE, OH, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ROOM, BUT IF THAT BOUNDARY HAPPENS TO BE BACK HERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN SQUEAK THE SIDEWALK THROUGH.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S CLOSER TO THE STREET PROBABLY HELPS US.
'CAUSE THEN WE CAN TRY TO SNEAK THE SIDEWALK BEHIND IT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO MOVE THE POLE.
BECAUSE THE OTHER THING ABOUT MOVING A POLE IS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST PUT IT ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY.
IT HAS TO ALSO SHARE THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, UH, UNLESS THEY GET AN EASEMENT OR, OR COMPENSATE YOU FOR THAT.
SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN TELL THEM TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
SO ANOTHER THING ON OUR, OUR LONG LIST OF THINGS TO BE AWARE OF AND CONSIDERATE OF, WE COVERED THIS EARLIER.
WE GET TO ABOUT 1 0 3 AND THEN WE PICK BACK UP WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT'S THERE AND GOOD TO, IN SOME CASES, POOR CONDITION.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME KIND OF BROKEN UP ASPHALT IN THIS AREA IN FRONT OF 75.
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THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE CORNER HERE.THE OTHER CORNER ARE MERRILL AND ROSEDALE, UM, NARROW AND ASPHALT ASPHALT'S.
UM, BUT NARROW IS NOT NECESSARILY OKAY.
THE SIDEWALK DOES NEED TO BE FOUR FEET WIDE TO MEET A DA STANDARD.
UM, IT IS PREEXISTING, BUT WE WOULD ALSO SEE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE SLOPES ARE COMPLIANT.
AND IF, IF IT COMES TO IT AND, AND WE NEED TO CUT BUDGET SOMEWHERE, WE WOULD LOOK AT TRYING TO PRESERVE SECTIONS.
MAYBE THIS IS THE CANDIDATE, MAYBE NOT.
AND AGAIN, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE FOLKS AT DOT WHO HAVE TO APPROVE THIS TO SAY, HEY, WE GOT THIS SHORT STRETCH OF ASPHALT.
IT'S ONLY THREE AND A HALF FEET WIDE.
CAN WE SAVE IT OR NOT? DOES IT HAVE TO GO? UM, WE'LL ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND THIS IS JUST REPRESENTATIVE.
I MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COURT ENTIRELY WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING A SIMILAR QUESTION, CAN WE SAVE A PORTION OF SIDEWALK TO HELP SAVE MONEY IF THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT? AND THE LAST SEGMENT FROM MERRILL TO RAVENSDALE ON THE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE A UTILITY POLE AND A FENCE, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT DOES APPEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO GET THROUGH HERE WITHOUT BEING, UH, WITHOUT NEEDING TO DISTURB EITHER.
SO JUST BEING COGNIZANT AGAIN, OF THE LOCATION OF FENCES PULSE, WORKING OUR WAY ACROSS SOME OF THESE DRIVEWAY APRONS AND THESE MATERIALS, THE PRESENTATION, THE GRAPHIC, UH, WE'LL MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO MARY BETH.
SHE CAN, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'LL POST THEM OR SHARE THEM WITH THE DISTRIBUTION LIST.
ONE WAY THE YEAH, WE CAN POST THEM TO THE WEBSITE AND I'LL SEND, I'LL SEND EVERYBODY A LINK TO WHERE ON THE WEBSITE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIG AROUND FOR IT.
AND THIS, THIS PDF, UH, I WAS ABLE TO GET, IT WAS A MONSTER PDF THAT I WAS LUCKILY ABLE TO COMPRESS TO A MANDIBLE SIZE.
SO, UH, IT SHOULD RUN ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET IT AND YOU OPEN IT ON YOUR HOME COMPUTER, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SCROLL AROUND PRETTY FREELY.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO CIRCLE SOMETHING, SEND IT TO MARY BETH AND SAY, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THIS? UH, DO THAT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT INFORMATION GETS TO US AND PLEASE KEEP IT COMING.
UM, SIR, WE, ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY? YEP.
UM, IS THERE ANY ATTITUDE OR GUIDELINES ABOUT TREES? LIKE WHERE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE GRASS STRIP IS BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD? ARE THERE ANY, DO YOU EVER INCORPORATE TREES? ARE THERE GUIDELINES? IS IT GOOD OR BAD? OR HOW MUCH SPACE YOU NEED? I THINK WHAT THE, IF WE WERE GOING TO, I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANYTHING WHERE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
I'LL SAY THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A MORE OF A, A MARY BETH TYPE DECISION.
UM, UH, WE CAN SUPPORT IT EITHER WAY, BUT WE WOULD LOOK TO, IF WE WERE GOING TO INSTALL SOME KIND OF TREE, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT'S THE KIND OF TREE THAT CAN LIVE IN, IN THE STREET ENVIRONMENT.
OF COURSE, YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH IN NEW YORK CITY, THE TREES EVERYWHERE IN THE STREETS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIES THAT, UH, CAN COEXIST WITH A SIDEWALK WITHOUT POPPING THE PANELS UP IN A COUPLE YEARS AND CAUSING A LIABILITY SITUATION.
SO WHETHER THE VILLAGE HAS A, A TREE POLICY OR GUIDELINES, WE WOULD, WHATEVER THAT IS, WE WOULD ADHERE TO IT.
UM, OF COURSE, LANDSCAPING COSTS MONEY, SO, UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE SOMETHING DOWN, WE WOULD WANT TO TRY TO REPLACE IT.
UH, OBVIOUSLY MATURE TREE, A HUNDRED YEAR OLD TREE, YOU CAN'T REPLACE THAT EXACTLY.
BUT WE CAN TRY TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE GROUND THAT EVENTUALLY OVER TIME MIGHT BECOME, UH, BIG AGAIN.
SO WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE, THE AMENITIES YOU HAVE IN YOUR VILLAGE AND NOT JUST, JUST CLEAR CUT IT ALL OUT.
SO I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.
UM, THE, I KNOW THAT THE, THE BUDGET CONCERN HAS BEEN KIND OF CLEARED, BUT HAS THE VILLAGE CONSIDERED A SIDEWALK ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET INSTEAD OF BOTH SIDES? I MEAN, I TAKE THAT WALK ALL THE TIME, GO DOWN TO THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I HOP TO THE OTHER SIDE THAT HAS THE WALKWAY, BUT IF I HAVE A WALKWAY THAT GOES ALONG THE, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD THAT COULD
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BE A CONSIDERATION.UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, GOD, QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, MAYBE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING, I MET WITH, UH, RESIDENTS ON THE STREET AND TO TALK ABOUT SHOULD, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A GOOD SIDE FOR SIDEWALKS? IS THIS A GOOD SIDE FOR SIDEWALKS? AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, NOT THE SIDE.
UM, SO, UH, BUT, BUT THERE DID SEEM TO BE A UNIVERSAL, UH, THOUGHT THAT SIDEWALKS WOULD BE A VERY GOOD THING, UH, ON THAT STREET BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF CHILDREN THAT USE THAT, UH, STREET TO GET TO SCHOOL.
UM, AND, AND, AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, AND THERE IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, SOME SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR IT.
SO, SO, UH, IT WAS THE VILLAGE'S DECISION TO APPLY FOR A GRANT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
DID ANYBODY ELSE BEHIND YOU? UM, I GUESS, I GUESS WE SHOULD ADDRESS, ONCE THE SIDEWALKS GO ON THE STREETS, WE ARE THEN RESPONSIBLE, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOVELING WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BEFORE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE POINT WAS THAT ONCE SIDEWALKS GO IN, IF YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, THE VILLAGE LAW DOES REQUIRE THAT YOU, UH, SHOVEL THAT SIDEWALK AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT, UM, CLEAR FOR PASSAGE TIMEFRAME.
LIKE FROM WHEN IT STOP, UH, IT, IT SAYS 12 HOURS IN THE LAW, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SHUT ME OUT, AND THEN A PLOW WENT BY 24 HOURS AFTER STUFF.
I, I, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT, ESPECIALLY IN AN EVENT LIKE WE JUST HAD.
BUT ODDLY, I HAD A, A CALL FROM ANOTHER, OR A, A MESSAGE FROM ANOTHER RESIDENT ON THE SUBJECT, SO I GOOGLED IT.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE ARE TECHNIQUES THAT YOU CAN USE.
AND IT DOES INVOLVE MORE SHOVELING THOUGH, SO I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT.
BUT, UH, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN TECHNIQUES THAT YOU CAN USE TO CLEAR A LITTLE AREA ON.
I, IT'S, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, I FORGET IF IT'S BE WHICH SIDE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEFT OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR DRIVEWAY.
UM, BUT, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO TRY TO KEEP LESS SNOW GETTING, GETTING DUMPED, KIND OF WHERE, RIGHT, WHERE YOUR DRIVEWAY IS.
I MEAN, THIS WAS A, A MONSTER OF A STORM AND, AND WE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE AROUND THE VILLAGE, WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, SNOW IN, IN, IN LOTS OF PLACES.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I, I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, AND YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IF A THERE IS A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE TO, UH, KEEP IT CLEARED OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY EVENT.
I'M NOT SO SURE IF HOMEOWNERS RESPONSIBLE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME SOMEDAY MAYBE THEY'LL, THEY'LL DEBATE THAT AT THE SUPREME COURT, BUT, BUT TONIGHT, I THINK WE'LL LEAVE IT FOR, FOR THAT MOMENT.
UM, ALONG THE SAME LINE, UM, I KNOW IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY FOR SNOW REMOVAL, BUT LIKE LIABILITY AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT SIDEWALK THAT'S ALSO ON THE HOMEOWNER, CORRECT.
LIKE PART OF OUR HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE AND ALL OF THAT, FOR THAT PART OF IT.
YEAH, I, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, AND KIND OF REITERATING, I THINK WHAT EVA SAID, UM, IF WE RECALL THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT, THE EXPENSE OF $2 MILLION ALMOST, IT'S REALLY FOR THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE, OF CHILDREN, OF ADULTS WALKING IN THE STREET.
I CAN SAY, WHEN I'VE BEEN WALKING THE LAST FEW WEEKS IN THE SNOW, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TIMES I NEARLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA GET HIT BECAUSE I HAD TO WALK IN THE STREET WITH OUR DOG.
AND THERE'S, AND THE SNOW IS SO BAD RIGHT NOW IN THE STREET THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY AT DANGER.
AND EVERY TIME MY CHILDREN WOULD GO TO SCHOOL OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, WALKING DOWN FROM WHERE WE LIVE AT PRESCOTT, ALONG THAT HALF A BLOCK, I WOULD WORRY THAT THEY MIGHT GET HIT AT 8 0 5 OR EIGHT 10 THE WAY PEOPLE DRIVE.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED SIDEWALKS.
I THINK I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE DOING IT.
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THE TRANSPARENCY OF THIS PROCESS, MARY BETH, AND THANK YOU FOR SETTING UP THIS TIME TO HAVE IT, AND FOR THE FOLKS FROM THE, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM.IT'S REALLY TERRIFIC, AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
I THINK WE'RE ON FIVE, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A BREAK.
UM, IN FACT, ONE OF THE, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE SLIDE OF THE PROCESS AND, UM, I ALMOST FOUND IT, BUT IT, BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE ON THAT SLIDE IS THAT THERE'S ONE MORE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ONE MORE PUBLIC MEETING THAT COMES AFTER A GREAT DEAL OF, OF DESIGN PROCESS.
AND GIVEN HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THIS, UH, MEETING, AND THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN REALLY TOUCH UPON THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC.
UH, I THINK THERE'S, AND PEOPLE HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL CONCERNS.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE ISN'T A WAY TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A ONGOING DIALOGUE, EVEN WITHOUT A FULL, UH, DIAGRAM.
THAT'S ALWAYS THE PROBLEM I FIND WITH THESE PROCESSES.
PEOPLE CAN TRY TO IMAGINE WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE, BUT UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE DRAWING AND YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD.
SO IN THAT PROCESS THAT YOU POSTED, I THINK, IS IT THERE? YEAH, I BROUGHT IT BACK UP.
AND I, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE, THE ORDER OF THESE THINGS IS NOT ABSOLUTE.
UM, WE CAN, WE CAN HOLD ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE WE SUBMIT OUR FIRST DELIVERABLE TO THE DOT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT TO THEM AND WAIT FOR THEM TO REPLY BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN.
IN FACT, GIVEN THE, THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST AND, AND CONCERN, I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, CHECK WITH HER, BECAUSE WHAT WE, WHAT WE DON'T WANT ALSO IS TO WASTE THE DOT'S TIME, UM, BY PROVIDING THEM WITH A DESIGN PLAN THAT YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH, UM, AND THAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH.
AND THEN, THEN WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT AND GO BACK AND DO IT AGAIN.
AND IT JUST CREATES MORE TIME AND MORE MONEY.
SO I, I'M PROBABLY JUST GONNA SAY RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, BEFORE WE EVEN SUBMIT ANYTHING, I THINK WE MEET AGAIN.
I THINK MARY BETH, YOU MIGHT AGREE TO THAT.
I MEAN, WHY WOULDN'T I
THE ONLY CONCERN YEAH, GET IT RIGHT.
FIRST TIME THAT I WOULD HAVE IS THE DOT ALSO HAS THEIR THINGS.
SO IF I WANT, YOU KNOW, THEIR THINGS IN YOUR THINGS MAY, THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY NOT BE COMPLETE SYNERGY THERE, BUT WE'LL TRY TO FIND SYNERGY.
I, AND FOR, FOR CONTEXT, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE, THE SIDEWALK OUT ON BROADWAY, UM, FROM WASHINGTON TO DEVON AND, AND BURNSIDE.
UM, AND THAT IS AN EXERCISE IN PATIENCE, UH, WITH NEW YORK STATE DOT INVOLVEMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING THAT THEY, IT'S THEIR ROAD AND THEY HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT THAN IF IT'S NOT THEIR ROAD.
UM, THE VILLAGE IS IN CONTROL OF ITS ROAD.
UM, ALL THEY'RE REALLY CHECKING FOR WHEN WE SUBMIT THESE REPORTS AND THESE PLANS TO THEM IS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA IMPACT AN ENDANGERED SPECIES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA CAUSE AN ISSUE IN A HISTORIC AREA.
WE'RE NOT, IF THERE WAS A NATIONAL REGISTER, UH, STRUCTURE ON THE ROAD THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DESTROY THE INTEGRITY OF IT.
AND THEY HAVE A SET REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY WILL FOLLOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT THAT DRIVEWAY? THAT'S REALLY NOT THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, SO TO THAT LEVEL, UH, THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT MORE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE, UH, THAN ANYTHING.
UH, HEY, I'M, UH, DAVID ERICKSON.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYONE WHO'S RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING AND WATER.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM HAS PROBABLY FOUGHT THEIR SPECIFIC BATTLE AROUND WATER FLOODING AND SO FORTH.
I AM SO VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT ISSUE.
AND, UH, FROM A TECHNICAL QUESTION PERSPECTIVE, I HAD TWO, WHICH IS RELATED TO A DA COMPLIANCE SIDEWALKS, AND THE APPROPRIATE, UH, UH, UM, HOW WE CALL IT PITCH TO THE ROAD.
AND IT MAY ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT LAURA HAD HAD BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE SORT OF GRADING TOWARDS SUNKEN SIDEWALKS.
AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE TECHNICAL GRADE OF A SIDEWALK SLOPING TO THE ROAD WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
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UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE INVESTED IN ARE COBBLESTONE CURTAINS TO THEIR DRIVEWAYS.UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE LASER CUT COBBLESTONE OPTIONS THAT ARE A DA COMPLIANT THAT CAN PRESERVE THE, UH, UH, EFFECT OF THOSE CURTAINS IN MATERIAL, BUT ALSO COMPLY IN A WAY THAT MAY SATISFY THE DOT REQUIREMENTS.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY MODEST INVESTMENT TO PRESERVE WHAT PEOPLE HAD PUT FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE AESTHETIC VALUE, BUT ALSO IN THE, THE, THE, UH, UNDERSTOOD FUNCTIONAL VALUE OF HOW THAT PITCH IS.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES EXIST.
UM, BUT I'LL ALSO JUST SAY THAT, UH, UH, UH, MY WIFE WAS, UH, STRUCK BY A CAR CROSSING A STREET.
UH, AND SO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN THIS TOWN, OR ANY TOWN IS LIKE, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UH, LIVING WHERE I DO ON THE STAIRS, I DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK ON ROSEDALE AVENUE.
AND SO IF IT'S MAKING IT A ONE WAY STREET OR IF IT'S SOMEHOW GETTING A BETTER, UH, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CARS AND PEOPLE AND DOGS AND THINGS, ESPECIALLY IN THE DUSK HOURS OR IN THE NIGHT HOURS OR WHEN THERE'S LOTS OF SNOW ON THE STREET, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST, I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY BROUGHT US TOGETHER.
SO, UH, UH, UH, THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I'LL SAY, NOT TO DOWNPLAY WATER, WHICH I'M SURE AS SOON AS THE SNOW MELTS, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WILL START TO FREAK OUT ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BASEMENT AS I ALREADY, UH, UH, AM TONIGHT.
SO, UH, THANKS, UM, TO YOUR SECOND POINT, UM, WITH THE MATERIALS, UH, AND, AND THAT SORT OF PIGGYBACKS ON THIS GENTLEMAN HERE BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UM, SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO KEEP A COSTONE APPEARANCE MATERIAL, SOME, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR ECHOING THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, PART OF OUR HOMEWORK HERE.
UH, AND IF, AND AS FAR AS, UM, THE PITCH OF THE SIDEWALK, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO APPRECIATE, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS IN THE, IN, MAYBE IN THIS TYPE OF SETTING, BUT THE, THERE'S A, A GRADE THAT WE DESIGN TO, AND THEN THERE'S A, AN ACCEPTABLE GRADE IN CONSTRUCTION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, UH, OUR DESIGN HAS THE SIDEWALK POINTED DOWNWARD TOWARD THE ROAD AT 1.5%, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO 2%.
2% IS A TYPICAL SIDEWALK GRADE.
SO THAT, LET'S SAY THEY BUILD IT AND IT'S 1.7, IT'S OKAY, YOU CAN ACCEPT THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM, BUT TWO IS THE MAXIMUM ACCEPTABLE.
UH, THEY'LL COME OUT THERE AT THE LEVEL AND PLOP IT RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND IF IT'S 2.1, DEPENDING ON WHO'S REVIEWING IT THAT DAY, DAY, THEY MIGHT SAY, YOU GOTTA RIP IT OUT.
SO THEY TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
UM, PITCH IS ONE ISSUE, AND THEN THE OTHER IS GRADE, RIGHT? SO SOMETIMES THOSE LITTLE, MY, THOSE LITTLE DAMS, THOSE STONE DAMS ARE, ARE SET UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THE GRADE IS RAISED UP TO KEEP THE WATER OUT, BUT IF EVERYTHING HA BUT IF THE SIDEWALK HAS TO BE, UM, ON ONE GRADE, RIGHT, IT CAN'T GO IT, LIKE, IN OTHER WORDS, IT CAN GO UP AND DOWN.
IT, IT CAN LIKE A LITTLE, LIKE A LITTLE BIT LIKE, SO IF MINE, IF MY, IF THE GRADE OF MY DRIVEWAY IS RISES UP, YOU KNOW, FROM TWO INCHES TO FIVE INCHES, CAN THAT BE MAINTAINED? I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MATERIAL.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S CEMENT OR, OR STONE.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE, THE GRADE THAT KEEPS THE WATER OUT.
YEAH, I, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE PROBABLY WANT TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE VARIATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALK DOESN'T HAVE TO COMPLETE COMPLETELY LEVEL.
WE CAN SEE ABOUT LIFTING IT UP AS WE GET INTO A DRIVEWAY TO HELP, AGAIN, BLOCK AS, AS IT'S CURRENTLY DOING TO CONTINUE TO BLOCK SOME OF THAT WATER FLOW SPILLING OVER.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CONSIDER.
THE ONE THING WE DON'T WANNA DO IS JUST MAKE IT WORSE FOR YOUR CAR WHEN YOU'RE PULLING OUT, UH, WHERE YOUR BUMPER MIGHT HIT THE PAVEMENT.
SO WE LOOK AT ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER, STORM WATER, CAN IT SPILL OVER GRADE OF THE SIDEWALK SLOPE WITH THE SIDEWALK? WE DO LIKE A LITTLE MODEL WITH A, WITH A MODEL CAR, AND WE DRIVE IT OVER THE, THE DRIVEWAY AND SEE IF IT BOTTOMS OUT ALL OF THESE THINGS.
IT'S A VERY THREE DIMENSIONAL EXERCISE.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ONE SPECIFIC THING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE THINGS, UH, TOGETHER IN TANDEM.
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SLEEP BETTER TONIGHT.AS FAR AS LIKE DOCUMENTATION GOES, IS THIS GONNA BE TWO DIMENSIONAL? IS IT GONNA BE THREE DIMENSIONAL OR IT'D BE A MODEL MADE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE DRIVEWAYS IF THERE'S SPECIFIC PROBLEMS? SURE.
IT'S A LOT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT A PICTURE OF THIS CONDITION THAN A FLAT DRAWING.
I CAN READ THE TWO DIMENSIONS.
I CAN FIGURE IT OUT, BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER IF YOU SEE AN IMAGE OF IT.
AND, UM, YEAH, THE, THE PLANS THAT GO OUT TO BID ARE TWO DIMENSIONAL, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, THE ACTUAL BEHIND THE SCENES DESIGN WORK IS DONE IN 3D IT'S NOT LIKE A, AN AS BUILT ONSITE TYPE OF THING WHERE YOU KIND OF MODIFY THE CONDITION TO WORK WITH.
WELL, WE, WE DESIGNED TO THE SURVEY.
UH, THE SURVEY IS, IS AS ACCURATE AS IT IS AS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S AS AS GOOD AS YOU'RE GONNA GET.
AND THEN IN OUR SOFTWARE, WE BASICALLY RUN A TEMPLATE OF THE ROAD OR THE SIDEWALK IN THIS CASE, UH, FROM THE CURB BACK, WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE.
AND WE TRY TO MAKE IT MATCH THE GRADES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND NOT OVERLY CUT THROUGH ANYTHING AND NOT OVERLY REQUIRE FILM MATERIAL.
AND IT'S REALLY A DELICATE BALANCING ACT, BUT IT IS DONE, UH, WITH BIRTH VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL IN MIND.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TONIGHT? YEP.
I MOVED TO THE VILLAGE JUST ONE YEAR AGO.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE BORN, THAT YOU DO A REFERENDUM AND THE RESIDENT OF ROSEDALE SAID, WE WANT A SIDEWALK, OR HOW DID THIS, UH, PROJECT CAME TO LIFE? JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECT.
UM, WELL, I'VE BEEN HERE SIX AND A HALF YEARS AND I, I THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT WITH REGARD TO SIDEWALKS.
UM, THERE'S A SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL GROUP AND THERE'S ALSO A PEDESTRIAN, UM, UH, ROUTE, UH, KIND OF OVERALL, UM, DOCUMENT FOR THE VILLAGE THAT ARE ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, AND, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, UH, GUIDE US IN, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WANT TO DO PROJECTS AND, AND START PROJECTS.
IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, I, THE THOUGHT IS RADIATING, RADIATING OUT FROM THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THE, THE SCHOOL IS VERY CENTRAL TO THE MOUNT HOPE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S RIGHT, RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF MOUNT HOPE AND, AND, UH, AND ROSEDALE AND A LOT OF CHILDREN DO WALK TO SCHOOL THROUGH THAT WAY.
UH, THEY COME, YOU KNOW, FROM AS FAR AS, UM, REALLY OVER, YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FARRAGUT AVENUE AND, AND THE OTHER SIDE OF ROSEDALE.
SO, UH, THEY, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF, UH, FOOT TRAFFIC.
UM, AND AS PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT TO ME, UH, AUTO AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC, UH, AS WELL GET TO ROSEDALE, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
BUT DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, IS THIS AN FYI CAN PEOPLE SAY YES, NO, OR WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS HERE? JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE NEXT STEPS ARE, WE'RE GONNA FINISH THE SURVEY, UH, SO THAT WE GET THE LAY OF THE LAND AND UM, UH, UH, JARED AND HIS TEAM WILL BEGIN, UH, THE DESIGN PROCESS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER TIME HE FEELS THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND, UH, THE SNOW IS OUR BIGGEST, UH, OBSTACLE RIGHT NOW.
SO ONCE THIS, ONCE OUR SURVEYORS SAY, OKAY, WE'RE READY TO GO BACK AND THEY CAN GET IT BACK ON THEIR SCHEDULE, WE'LL RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION AND IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
SO IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM US FOR, FOR A LITTLE BIT, UH, DON'T BE OVERLY CONCERNED, IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL JUST WAITING FOR THE DATA.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SPRINGTIME I THINK IS FAIR.
YEAH, MAYBE APRIL, WELL, WE KNOW YOU AND, AND, AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU, YOU KNOW, I'LL TRY TO, IF I DON'T, YOU KNOW, SEND YOU A NOTE IN, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS AND YOU'RE CURIOUS, YOU CAN ALWAYS SEND ME A NOTE AND I'LL TRY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO, TO EVERYBODY, UH, ON THE, ON THE, ON MY MAIL, LITTLE MAILING LIST THAT I HAVE AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE.
AND I ALSO TRY TO UPDATE THE BOARD PERIODICALLY AS WELL.
SO IF YOU EVER TUNE INTO THE, UH, VILLAGE BOARD MEETINGS, YOU MAY HEAR SOMETHING THERE AS WELL.
UM, I DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL ABOUT TODAY.
I GOT THE EMAIL A MONTH AGO ABOUT TRYING TO SCHEDULE AND THEN I DIDN'T, I FOUND OUT THROUGH TOM DRAKE'S EMAIL THAT WENT TO THE VILLAGE TODAY.
AND THEN I TEXTED A FEW OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO DIDN'T GET IT AND SOME OF THEM COULDN'T MAKE
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IT.SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT REPRESENTED HERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT LIST YOU USE OR HOW YOU COMMUNICATED, BUT I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE THAT JUST AREN'T HERE AND ARE NOT REPRESENTED.
UM, WHAT I DID IS I HAVE TRIED TO GATHER A LIST OF EVERYBODY.
UH, BASICALLY IT'S BEEN THROUGH, UM, PEOPLE GIVING ME CONTACT INFORMATION.
IF I HAD YOURS AND NOW I DON'T HAVE IT, IF YOU COULD EMAIL ME, UH, AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOMORROW OR TONIGHT, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET BACK ON THE LIST OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO DIDN'T RECEIVE IT.
UH, WE ALSO DID SEND OUT A VILLAGE WIDE, UH, MESSAGE ABOUT THIS AND IT, TOM SENT OUT ANOTHER REMINDER, BUT WE HAD, UH, LAST WEEK I SENT OUT A VILLAGE WIDE EMAIL TO ANYBODY WHO'S, UH, RECEIVES THE VILLAGE EMAILS.
SO YOU CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SIGN UP TO RECEIVE NOTICES FROM THE VILLAGE.
UM, SO, SO, UH, THOSE ARE THOSE, BUT, BUT, BUT IN THIS, FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING, YOU CAN CONTACT ME DIRECTLY AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THAT.
YOU, YOU'RE, YOU GET, UH, ADDED, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS THAT YOU GOT DELETED, BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
WELL FIRST ASK PEOPLE KNOW TODAY, JUST LIKE ANOTHER WELL, UM, YES, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE.
I'LL LOOK AT MY, I'LL COMPARE MY LIST SO I CAN GO BACK AND SEE WHO I HAD EMAILED INITIALLY, BUT ALSO, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, UH, THIS IS BEING, UH, VIDEOED, SO IT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, ALL, EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID IN THE NEIGHBORS WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO VIEW, WILL BE ABLE TO VIEW THIS, THIS ENTIRE, UH, MEETING.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE POSTED TO THE WEBSITE.
I JUST SORT OF WANNA GO BACK TO WHAT THE GENTLEMAN OVER THERE THREW OUT ABOUT A ONE-WAY STREET.
I SORT OF REMEMBER MANY YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY HAVING SUGGESTED THAT ROSEDALE BE ONE WAY, IT WOULD BE A LOT SAFER FOR THE CHILDREN JUST WITHOUT EVEN ADDING SIDEWALKS.
I WALK THERE ALL THE TIME, BUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE PARKING WITH IN AND OUT AND IT'S CRAZY.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEBODY HAD SUGGESTED ABOUT MAKING IT A ONE WAY.
UM, I, DURING MY TENURE HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT, UH, ALMOST SEVEN YEARS NOW.
I DON'T PARTICULARLY, I DON'T RECALL IT, BUT I CAN TAKE A LOOK BACK AND SEE IF I CAN FIND, UH, WHAT THE GENESIS OF IT WAS AND, AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING WAS, UH, LOOKED AT.
I CAN, I CAN LOOK, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE RECORDS THAT WE HAVE AND SEE IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
'CAUSE I KNOW I BROUGHT UP THE FLOODING BEFORE.
I, I DO NOT DISAGREE THAT WE NEED SIDEWALKS.
I WALK ON THAT ROAD ALL THE TIME.
I WALK WITH MY ELDERLY FATHER, WITH MY DOG.
BUT I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED, LIKE REALLY TRAUMATIZED BY THE FLOODING.
AND AS LONG AS THAT'S BEING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL PROBABLY HIRED SOME ENGINEERS TO COME AND LOOK AT OUR PROPERTIES FOR FLOOD MITIGATION AND WE'D LOVE TO LIKE, BE ABLE TO GET MINES TOGETHER TO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROBLEMS DON'T WORSEN BECAUSE OF IT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR THE MOST PART.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DENIES WE NEED SIDEWALKS, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT FURTHER TRAUMATIZED.
UH, YEAH, SO THE QUESTION WAS, CAN CAN THEY, CAN YOU SEND OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, AFTER TONIGHT YOU CAN'T EVER, I'M NEVER SPEAKING TO YOU AGAIN.
UM, IF YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALSO, I I'LL SHARE THEM WITH OUR, OR WITH OUR ENGINEER.
SO, UH, MY EMAIL IS VILLAGE MANAGER@HONY.GOV.
UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE.
SO, UH, FEEL FREE TO SEND ME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, THINGS THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING OR THINKING ABOUT.
DID YOU OH, OH, WAS SOMEBODY ELSE? IT WAS, NO, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I THINK THAT, UM, WE ALL SUPPORT THE PROJECT, BUT WE DON'T WANNA CREATE PROBLEMS THAT DON'T EXIST, ESPECIALLY AFTER LIKE
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20 YEARS OF IT IS TRAUMATIZING TO HAVE YOUR HOME FILL UP WITH WATER AND HAVE YOUR MECHANICALS DESTROYED AND YOUR PROPERTY DESTROYED AND YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, UM, DISRUPTED.SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE BEING, UM, SELF-ABSORBED BY TRYING TO AVOID THAT FROM HAPPENING.
WE WANT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WANT KIDS TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE, UM, TO WALK AND FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO WALK.
BUT THE, THE FLOODING ISSUES AND THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND, AND SHOULD NOT BE MINIMIZED.
ANYBODY ELSE? LAST CALL? ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO JARED FOR BEING HERE AND, UH, CATHERINE AND ALSO TO ALL OF YOU.
UM, I THINK THAT WE HAD A NICE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION.
WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN, IN THE VILLAGE BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS OF THE VILLAGE THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS WITH FLOODING.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
UM, SOME OF OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS WERE PROBABLY BUILT, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WEREN'T AS MANY HOUSES.
THERE WAS, WEREN'T, WASN'T AS AS MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
UH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY DIDN'T HAVE THREE OR FOUR CARS,
SO, UH, WE ARE GONNA TAKE THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SIDEWALKS AND HOW IT CAN MAKE A COMMUNITY MORE WALKABLE AND, AND, AND REALLY, UH, MAKE THE COMMUNITY MORE TIGHT KNIT IN MANY WAYS.
AND I'VE HEARD ALSO THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SHARED WITH ME ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
AND I WILL, UH, GO BACK TO, TO, YOU KNOW, VILLAGE HALL AND, AND SPEAK WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF AND, AND FOLKS LIKE THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, THINK OF SOME WAYS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE AND UH, PLEASE, AS YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU WANT AND I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU AS THE PROJECT MOVES AHEAD.