* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT, SO [I. ROLL CALL] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF, UM, THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON, APRIL 16TH, 2026. UM, WELCOME AND, UH, MARY ELLEN, WILL YOU TAKE ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIR PERSON. EVA ALLGOOD. HERE. BOARD MEMBER RICHARD BASS HERE. BOARD MEMBER DANIEL BERKOVITZ. HERE. BOARD MEMBER ANGEL CHEN. HERE. BOARD MEMBER DAVID GUNTON. HERE. BOARD MEMBER PATRICK DIGGINS. HERE. ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBER THOMAS SPIRE. PRESENT PLANNING CONSULTANT. PATRICK CLEARY HERE. VILLAGE ATTORNEY LINDA WHITEHEAD HERE. AND STANDING IN FOR BUILDING INSPECTOR CHARLES MOZZI IS DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR. CHRIS ZELINSKI HERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO [II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] NEXT WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. WE HAVE MINUTES FROM OUR BOARD MEETINGS OF, UH, SEPTEMBER 18TH AND MARCH 19TH. AND SO WE NEED TO REVIEW IF WE HAVE THE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT TO APPROVE THESE. IN SEPTEMBER. WE HAD MYSELF, ANGELIE, DAVID, AND DICK AND DICK ISN'T HERE. SO I THINK WE CAN'T, UM, APPROVE THOSE. RIGHT? OKAY. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEN FOR THE MARCH MEETING, IT WAS MYSELF, RICHARD, ANJALEE, PATRICK, DAVID, TOM, AND DANIEL. SO I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE ENOUGH. UM, DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR REVISIONS TO, UH, ONE COMMENT? UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, ELEVATION, BUT, UH, I'M LISTED AS ACTING CHAIR. UH, . I THOUGHT I FIXED THAT. , I WAS GONNA SAY. AND I CAUGHT MISTAKES IN THE NAMES TOO. AND I, THAT ONE, BUT I APPRECIATE IT, . ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GOT MY CORRECTIONS, RIGHT? OKAY. UM, SO WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SO MOVED? OKAY. WHO SECONDS IT? SECOND? THREE. UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UNANIMOUSLY, THEY ARE APPROVED. UH, [III. OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS] SO THIS EVENING WE ONLY HAVE ONE OLD PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THE APPLICATION FOR THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY AT WARREN AND PEARL WAS, ORIGINALLY IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'S BEEN ADJOURNED BY THE APPLICANT. UM, SO IF ANYONE IS HERE ON THAT MATTER, UM, PLEASE COME BACK, HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH WHEN IT'S BACK ON OUR AGENDA. UM, SO THE FIRST, UH, ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN. APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION OF TABBY REALTY FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AS PER SECTION 2 95 DASH 1 0 4 A FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THEIR EXISTING THREE FAMILY BUILDING, PAVING AND RETAINING WALLS AND RESTORATION OF THE SITE AT THEIR PROPERTY. LOCATED AT 4 25 WORLD WARTON AVENUE AND SAID PROPERTIES IN THE MOR ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.70 DASH 52 DASH 10 AND 11 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS. SO, UM, JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, UM, THIS APPLICATION RELATES ONLY TO THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING DRIVEWAY AND WALLS, NOT TO ANY FUTURE, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. WE ORIGINALLY APPROVED THIS APPLICATION IN 2024, AND GRANTED AN EXTENSION OF THE APPROVAL LAST YEAR. THE APPLICANT HAS NOW REQUESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THE PRIOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. UM, WE DISCUSSED THIS MATTER LAST MONTH AND ASKED THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBOR TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE US WITH WHAT THEY WERE WILLING, UM, TO AGREE TO AS CONDITIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBOR, UM, AND, AND THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT. UM, WE'VE RECEIVED REVISED PLANS AND DETAILED NOTES, AS WELL AS CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBOR. AND, UM, OUR STAFF HAVE WORKED ON A LIST OF CONDITIONS BASED ON THAT. UM, SO THAT WE'RE PREPARED TONIGHT. UM, ONCE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO START BY ASKING OUR VILLAGE PLANNER, IF YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE, UM, WHERE WE ARE AND PROVIDE US WITH ANY GUIDANCE, UM, AND ALSO YEAH, SHARE WHAT WE'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF SURE. SO AGAIN, WE'VE HAD, UH, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, WE'VE HAD JIM'S COUNTER PROPOSALS, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO WORK NICELY TOGETHER. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN PROGRESS IN THAT REGARD, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT YOU'VE DIRECTED US TO TAKE CONTROL OF THAT SITUATION AND IMPOSE THE STANDARDS THAT WE FEEL THAT IS, THEY, THEY'RE YOUR CONDITIONS, SO WHAT YOUR CONDITIONS WOULD BE. SO I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE THOSE IF YOU'D LIKE. SO, UM, THERE CHANGING AS WE SPEAK, RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE SEVEN OR EIGHT CONDITIONS. UM, THE FIRST IS TO REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO PARCEL TWO AND PHASE TWO ON THE PLANS. THIS IS JUST THE DEMOLITION PIECE. NUMBER TWO WOULD BE PRIOR TO THE, THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK, A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON NEW YORK STATE LICENSE, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER SHALL PERFORM A FULL INSPECTION ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 4 27 JIM'S PROPERTY WITH A WRITTEN REPORT WITH DATED PHOTOGRAPHS PROVIDING PROVIDED TO DOCUMENT EXISTING CONDITIONS. AND THE COST OF THAT IS, IS BORNE BY THE APPLICANT. NUMBER [00:05:01] THREE, PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK, THE APPLICANT SHALL IMPLEMENT OR OBTAIN A PEST CONTROL PLAN, INCLUDING TREATMENT OF THE PROPERTY FOR VERMIN AND INSECTS. JIM'S NOTED IT'S GOT A LOT OF ROACHES CRAWLING ACROSS THE STREET, SO WE WANNA TAKE CARE OF THAT. NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A SITE SAFETY PLAN. NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL RETAIN AN ENGINEER LICENSED IN NEW YORK, WHO MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES OF A SITE SAFETY MANAGER RETAINED BY, UH, BY THE APPLICANT. BY THE APPLICANT TO OVERSEE THE PROGRESS AND SAFETY OF THE WORK. NUMBER SIX, UH, TO PROTECT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 4 27 WAR BURTON, THE APPLICANT SHALL IMPLEMENT A MONITOR, UH, MONITORING PROGRAM DESIGNED BY ITS ENGINEER AND INSTALLED, MAINTAINED AND CALIBRATED BY QUALIFIED PERSONNEL AND OVERSEE BY THE THE SITE, UM, THE SSM, WHICH SHALL INCLUDE AS APPROPRIATE INSTALLATION OF CRACK GAUGES ON EXISTING STRUCTURES. CONTINUOUS VIBRATION MONITORING DEVICES, SEISMOGRAPHS WITH AGREED THRESHOLD LIMITS, AND WHICH SHALL RECORD PEAK PARTICLE VELOCITY IN INCHES PER SECOND IN THREE ORTHOGONAL DIRECTIONS. UH, THE FOURTH BULLET IS PERIODIC SURVEY MEASUREMENTS, EG THE SETTLEMENT OR MOVEMENT OF, UH, UH, MONITORING. AND THE LAST BULLET IN THAT SENSE IS WRITTEN MONITORING LOGS AVAILABLE TO THE NEIGHBOR UPON REQUEST. IF VIBRATION EXCEEDS 0.20 INCHES PER SECOND ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT SHALL REVIEW OPERATIONS AND IMPLEMENT REASONABLE MEASURES TO REDUCE VIBRATIONS WHERE PRACTICABLE, IF VIBRATIONS EXCEED 0.3 INCHES PER SECOND ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT SHALL IMMEDIATELY MODIFY THE DEMOLITION METHODS TO REDUCE VIBRATIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO REDUCING EQUIPMENT INTENSITY, ALTERING MEANS AND METHODS, AND INCREASING SEPARATION DISTANCE FROM THE APPLICANT'S STRUCTURES. IF MONITORING INDICATES MOVEMENT OF VIBRATION EXCEEDING AGREED THRESHOLDS OF 0.5 INCHES PER SECOND ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WORK SHALL BE IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED AND CORRECTIVE MEASURES SHALL BE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO RESUMPTION. NUMBER SEVEN, ALL WORK SHALL BE GOVERNED BY A SITE SAFETY PLAN PREPARED BY THE SSM AND PROVIDED TO THE OWNER ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT AND STRICTLY ADHERE TO THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. AND FINALLY, SUPPLEMENTING NOTE 2.1 ON THE PLANS, ALL WORK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING SHALL BE DONE BY HAND. AND THIS IS IN ADDITION. UM, IT'S ALSO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS AND THE, UM, SITE PROTECTION MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT DATED FEBRUARY 27TH, SEVENTH, WHICH HAD SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS. AND ON THE PLANS, YOU'LL NOTE THERE'S TWO PAGES WORTH OF NOTES, UM, INCLUDING VERY SPECIFIC SEQUENCING. UM, SO WE DIDN'T FEEL IT NECESSARY TO REPEAT THOSE ALL IN HERE. RIGHT. UM, IT'S VERY DETAILED ON THE PLANS ITSELF. RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE REASON WHY WE CHANGED THIS PROCESS IS THAT WE WERE GETTING, WE WERE, UM, GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBOR, UM, IN A WAY THAT WE FELT FROM THE LAST MEETING WASN'T GONNA BE PRODUCTIVE TO REPEAT. UM, WE WERE PLEASED TO GET ADDITIONAL MATERIALS FROM THE APPLICANT THAT DID SHOW THAT THEY HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS AND, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD INCORPORATED, UM, FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBOR AND, UM, HE ACTUALLY, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A, AN ACCESS AND LICENSE AGREEMENT TO US, UM, FOR OUR REVIEW. AND AGAIN, UM, THE REASON WHY OUR, UM, VILLAGE EXPERTS CAME UP WITH A, UM, A SET OF CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO SITE PLAN APPROVAL IS THAT'S THE MORE APPROPRIATE PROCESS FOR US TO APPROVE RATHER THAN GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO PARTIES. SO THEY'RE STILL GONNA NEED TO DO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT IF THEY NEED ACCESS, BUT THE VILLAGE DOESN'T NEED TO TO BE RIGHT. I JUST, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE, WE FELT THAT IT WAS NOT PRODUCTIVE FOR US TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. IT IS OUR ROLE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED IN A WAY THAT ADDRESSES, UM, THE KINDS OF CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, UM, BY THE NEIGHBOR, UM, SAFETY AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU RAISED. UH, BUT THE PROCESS IS TO COME UP WITH OUR LIST OF REQUIREMENTS, INCORPORATE THEM IN THE SITE PLAN, AND THEN THEY CAN GO OFF AND, UM, NEGOTIATE THEIR ACCESS AGREEMENT AND WE WILL REMOVE THE ORIGINAL CONDITION YES. REQUIRING A SIGNED AGREEMENT THAT'S BETWEEN YES. YES. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ANY FEEDBACK OR COMMENTS. I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN. IT WAS A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE RECEIVED. UM, BUT ANY, FIRST OF ALL, ANY COMMENTS ON HOW WE'VE DECIDED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENT. OKAY. . YEAH. AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY MEASURE ON YOUR PART. TYPICALLY, THESE ARE CONDITIONS THAT WERE HANDLED THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PHASE. MM-HMM [00:10:01] . SO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE IMPOSING THESE CONDITIONS REPRESENTS YET ANOTHER LEVEL OF CONTROL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW ON A PLAN. THEY'RE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT COULD FRANKLY ENFORCE, UM, DIRECTLY. YEAH. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARD ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO POINT OUT, THAT THIS IS UNUSUALLY, UM, INVOLVED IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND, UM, IT'S A REFLECTION OF OUR TAKING SERIOUSLY THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT KIND OF GOING OUTSIDE OF OUR BOUNDARIES HERE. IT BECOMES MESSY AND NOT PRODUCTIVE. SO OUR SOLUTION IS TO COME UP WITH THESE POINTS AND PROCEED FROM THERE. YES. YEAH. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT HERE. SO I, I, I, I THINK THE PROCESS IS FINE. I THINK WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD NECESSARILY NEEDS TO DO. WHAT IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING EVERY TIME A DEMOLITION OCCURS. MM-HMM . UM, IS THERE SOME, AND, AND I GUESS TO PUT THAT IN MORE ACTIONABLE TERMS, IS THERE SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT IN OUR, UM, CONDITIONS? IT STATES WHY WE, WHAT IS EXTRAORDINARY ABOUT THIS? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A MATTER OF, OF COURSE THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION. 'CAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A HISTORIC HOUSE ON A VERY FRAGILE FOUNDATION. CORRECT. NEXT TO THE SITE THAT'S INVOLVED DIRECTLY. I JUST THINK WE NEED, WE NEED TO PUT IN THE RECORD THAT WE DID THIS, UM, WAREHOUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF SOME VERY SPECIAL CONCERNS LIKE THAT. CORRECT. SO THAT THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE, UM, SOMEONE HAS CONCERNS, EVERY NEIGHBOR IS GONNA HAVE CONCERNS. YES. WHEN A BUILDING COMES DOWN NEXT TO THEM. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO DO THIS EVERY DAY. NO. AND WE DON'T. WE DON'T, BUT I I I LIKE YOUR WE DON'T, BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF PUTTING IN THE RECORD, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO SAY WHY WE WON'T IS WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO OPINE ON FUTURE. THE RESOLUTION CAN INCLUDE SOMEWHERE AS CLAUSES THAT SORT OF GIVE THE HISTORY HERE. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. YOU HAVE A HISTORIC HOUSE WITH A FRAGILE FOUNDATION THAT IS BASICALLY TOUCHING THIS BUILDING. YEAH. UM, SO IT REQUIRES EXTRA CARE AND PRECAUTION AND CONDITIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE REQUIRED LIKE ON OTHER BUILDINGS. YOU'RE NOT GONNA REQUIRE THINGS BE REMOVED BY HAND. NO. AND WE'RE NOT GONNA, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA, AND WE SAYING JUST TO SAY, JUST TO SAY, UNDERSTAND. YOU GOT IT. YEAH. I UNDERSTAND. FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T WANNA SET A PRECEDENT WHERE THIS OTHERS SAY, WELL, YOU DID IT FOR THIS PROJECT, SO WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR EVERY PROJECT. I GET THAT. I WANNA SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD, WE DON'T DO THIS FOR EVERY PROJECT THAT INVOLVES DEMOLITION, BUT IT, AND WE DON'T PLAN TO. BUT IF WE WANNA PROTECT OURSELVES BY SAYING THAT THIS IS AN UNUSUAL CASE AND PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD, I, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO. GOOD. WELL, NOW IT'S IN THE MINUTES, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD EVEN PUT IT IN THE CONDITIONS ALSO. I ALSO HAVE, WELL, I'D LIKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS DRAWING SET, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE, IF IT GOES IN THERE OR NOT, BUT I JUST, UH, I WOULD, I'D LIKE THEM TO DEFINE CLEAN SOIL FOR IMPORTATION, SPECIFICALLY USING NEW YORK REGULATIONS. AND I CAN CITE THEM. WE ALWAYS REQUIRE, THAT'S ALWAYS REQUIRE DO. WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT? ACTUALLY, PATRICK, YOU PROBABLY CAN CITE THAT STANDARD. YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US ? THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. UH, YEAH. I MEAN, I, IT SHOULD MEET PART 3 75, SECTION 6.8, RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL USE, SOIL CLEANUP OBJECTIVES. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE REGULATION . YEAH. UM, IS THAT THE REGULATION? IS THAT WHAT WE REQUIRE? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S, AS LONG AS THAT'S IN THERE, THAT'S FINE. I JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE BY IMPORTING CONTAMINATED SOIL. THAT'S, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. A REASONABLE CONCERN. YES. YES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, RESPONSES? NO. OKAY. I, AGAIN, I, I THINK, UM, TOM'S SUGGESTION OF WHEN WE, UM, FINALIZE WHAT, WHAT'S WRITTEN HERE, UM, INCORPORATING A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY OF WHY CLEAR, WHY WE'VE DONE THIS. MAKES SENSE. OKAY. UM, I, YES, PLEASE. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO, OH, OKAY. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT A SECOND. IF YOU HAVE, UM, IF YOU WANNA COME SPEAK, COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, IDENTIFY YOURSELF, YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR NAME, UM, WE NEED TO TAKE, PUT THAT IN THE RECORD. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND, OKAY. START. [00:15:01] WELL, I'LL JUST INTRODUCE HIM. . OKAY. SO PATTY STEINER, PRINCIPAL GOTHAM DESIGN, COORDINATING THIS FOR THE OWNER. UM, WE DO HAVE ONE CONCERN IN THE, WHAT YOU JUST READ, UM, BUT I THINK THE PERSON TO BEST EXPLAIN IT IS, UH, CYRUS , WHO'S THE ENGINEER OF RECORD ON THIS, WHO'S BEEN DEALING WITH THIS NOW AS LONG AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT. AND THE COMPLICATED SIDE. SO IF HE CAN JUST ADDRESS THE BOARD AND, AND GOING IN THE SPIRIT THAT WE WANT TO USE THE MOST EFFICIENT, THE, THE GENTLEST, THE THING THAT WILL DISRUPT THINGS THE LEAST. MM-HMM . IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE PEOPLE HAMMERING AT STUFF, SOMETIMES IT'S GONNA WANNA BE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IF HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT, I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE, UM, COME AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YEAH. CYRUS INTEGRAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, 27 MAIN STREET INDUSTRIAL. UM, AS PATTY MENTIONED, I'VE BEEN ON THE DESIGN TEAM AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PROCESS, UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN TWO OR THREE YEARS AT THIS POINT. IT MAY BE EVEN LONGER. UM, BUT, UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I I, I UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY OF THE, THE SITUATION. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TWO HOUSES ARE, THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE IN CONTACT WITH ONE ANOTHER. UM, I WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE IT AS FRAGILE. I'D SAY IT'S SENSITIVE. UH, IF IT'S FRAGILE, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE STANDING AT THE TEST OF TIME OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH, WITH THE EARTHQUAKES WE'VE BEEN RECENTLY HAVING. UM, BUT I THINK, UM, UH, THE, THE, I WAS FINE WITH, WITH ALL OF THE STIPULATIONS. UM, AND AGAIN, THERE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF THIS PROCESS. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I WAS TALKING WITH PATTY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE STRICTEST, UM, SITE SAFETY PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA? AND, AND AGAIN, I I LEAN ON NEW YORK CITY IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, LICENSED SITE SAFETY MANAGER, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN ON THESE MAJOR BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, SEVEN STORIES, LARGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE THIS AS, AS NECESSARILY TO THAT SCALE. UH, BUT AGAIN, IT NEEDS A SENSITIVITY. IT NEEDS THE, THE EXPERTISE OF THE PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT COULD BE A PROBLEM, IDENTIFY THE, THE HAZARD. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JOB HAZARD ANALYSIS. YOU IDENTIFY WHAT THE SAFETY ISSUES ARE ON EACH, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK PLAN, WORK ITEM. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THE, THE NECESSARY, UM, MITIGATION MEASURES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A SAFE, UH, WORKING ENVIRONMENT, SAFE BUILDING PRACTICES AND, AND TAKING THIS DOWN SYSTEMICALLY. UM, WITH, WITH THAT SAME RESPECT, UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A STIPULATION ON HOW THE MEANS AND METHODS OF TAKING DOWN A BUILDING, UM, THAT, THAT LAST STIPULATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY HAND. UM, I, I, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I'M DESIGNING SOMETHING, I, I SIT DOWN WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND I TELL 'EM, RIGHT, WHAT EQUIPMENT DO YOU HAVE? WHAT, HOW, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON HOW YOU WOULD TAKE THIS DOWN? BECAUSE I KIND OF LEAN ON, ON, ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT, UM, HAS BEEN USING AN EXCAVATOR SINCE THEY WERE 16 YEARS OLD, AND NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE 60, AND THEY CAN USE THAT JOYSTICK LIKE, LIKE THE PALM OF THEIR HAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE COMING IN AND TRYING TO TAKE A HAMMER TO SOMETHING THAT COULD CAUSE DEBRIS OR RICOCHET AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD CAUSE ADDITIONAL DAMAGE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF, OF ROADBLOCKS IN THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, LIKE, CAN WE, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST THINKING AS I'M GOING THROUGH THIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DEFINING HAND DEMOLITION IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO USE, LIKE TO, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATE SOME LEVERAGE TO PULL, WE HAVE TO PULL THIS THING AWAY IN ORDER TO, TO CREATE SOME SEPARATION. UM, AND DOING THAT SYSTEMATICALLY, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN FROM THE, THE DETAILS. AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING TRIANGLES WITH THE UNREINFORCED MASONRY TO GIVE IT AS MUCH SHEER RIGIDITY AS POSSIBLE. AND, AND I WANNA BE ABLE TO PULL THIS THING, AND IF WE CAN'T PULL IT INTO THE, THE RIGHT BUILDING, UM, AND, AND CREATE THAT, THE AMOUNT OF FORCE THAT'S NECESSARY, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT BY HAND. UM, AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT US INTO A CORNER WHERE NOW WE HAVE TO DO THIS BY HAND. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THE, THE MEANS AND METHODS AREN'T GONNA BE COMFORTABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE PERFORMING THE WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I, I WANT US TO DISCUSS THAT. AND I, I DO WANNA SAY, UM, I WAS, I, WHEN I READ THAT SENTENCE, MY CONCERN WAS HOW DO WE DEFINE IT JUST VERY BROAD, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, LIKE IT AGAIN, I THINK IT GETS IT A LITTLE BIT INTO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT, UM, SOMETHING. [00:20:01] SO, YEAH. PATRICK, GO AHEAD. YEAH, , YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I I I, I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT AS YOU DID LAST TIME. I MEAN, I, THE IDEA THAT THERE CAN'T BE ANY MECHANICAL CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IS, IS, IT'S KIND OF ABSURD, RIGHT? THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ON SITE, AND I, I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU THAT AN EXPERIENCED EXCAVATOR, EXCAVATOR OPERATOR, UM, CAN BE REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, AN EXPERIENCED EXCAVATOR OPERATOR CAN, CAN MAKE A FAST ADJUSTMENT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WHEREAS A HAND HAND, THEY JUST HAVE MORE STRENGTH AVAILABLE. HOWEVER, THE, THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE US IS A, IS AN EXPERIENCED OPERATOR, AND YOU, THERE'S, YOU CAN'T PROVIDE US ANY GUARANTEE HERE THAT THE OPERATOR WE'RE GONNA, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET, IS GOING TO BE THAT EXPERIENCED OPERATOR. AND IT, IT IS NOT THE POSITION OF THIS BOARD TO, TO COME UP WITH A, OR THE ROLE OF THIS BOARD TO LIKE, COME UP WITH A LIST OF QUALIFICATIONS FOR YOUR EXCAVATOR OPERATOR. SO I AGREE THERE NEEDS TO BE, UH, I, I AGREE THERE THAT YOU ALL NEED TO WORK OUT WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHAT DEFINES HAND OPERATE, UH, HAND EXCAVATOR, UM, HAND DEMOLITION. BUT I ALSO AGREE, I MEAN, I THINK PART OF THE, THE RELUCTANCE THAT THIS BOARD HAS IS THAT THE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THIS DEMOLITION ENGINEERS HAVE DISAGREED AND, AND SAID THAT THOSE PLANS WERE WORSE. SO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, I THINK WE'RE WE RELUCTANT TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, JUST DO IT NORMAL WAY. AND THE, THE WAY THAT IT WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME WAS, WAS TO REMOVE THEM FLOOR BY FLOOR USING PRIMARILY HAND TOOLS. IF, IF I THINK YOU NEED TO GIVE US SPECIFICS AS AN ENGINEER, AS AN EXPERT, IF SPECIFICALLY HAND TOOLS IS NOT ENOUGH, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO DO THE JOB CORRECTLY? AND, AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE TECHNICAL CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE THAT I THINK THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE WITH A BILLING INSPECTOR. SO I JUST WANNA OFFER, CAN WE JUST PUT IN, CAN I OFFER, YEAH. OFFER THE NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED ON THEIR PLANS, UHHUH READS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CONDITION WE JUST DISCUSSED. OKAY. AND MAYBE SUFFICIENT. OKAY. SO NOTE, UM, UNDER THE DEMOLITION PHASE, IT'S THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. 2.1 BRICK WALLS SHALL BE REMOVED BY A COMBINATION OF MECHANICAL DEMOLITION WHERE SAFE AND APPROPRIATE AND HAND LABOR USING MALLS AND CHISELS, WHERE APPROPRIATE, THE USE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT SHALL BE, UH, LIMITED TO THOSE AREAS THAT DO NOT RISK DAMAGE TO THE EXISTING HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. SO THAT WAS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. I YEAH, YEAH, I, THAT THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. . YEAH, AGREED. BUT WE'LL TAKE OUT THE ADDITIONAL POSITION. LET'S PUT THAT ONE YEAH, YEAH. THIS, WE, WE DO, WE DO TRUST OUR BUILDING APARTMENT TO, THIS IS THE, I REALLY DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO LIKE OVERSTEPPING WHAT OUR ROLE IS. I, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. YEAH. I FEEL COMPELLED TO OBSERVE, JUST TO ECHO, I MEAN, I THINK AND AMPLIFY SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE EARLIER THAT I PERSONALLY FEEL UNQUALIFIED TO, TO, YEAH. I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS, UM, THERE'S A REASON WHY THESE THINGS ARE NOT NORMALLY, I, I DON'T THINK UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING BOARD, BECAUSE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE VARYING DEGREES OF EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE HERE, BUT THIS IS NOT AN ENGINEERING REVIEW. YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH, AGREED. I AGREE. AND THE, THE NORMAL WAY, AS YOU MENTIONED LIKE IT, THESE, THERE'S NO, NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT THIS. AND AGAIN, IT'S BEING TREATED WITH THE SENSITIVITY WITH, WITH THE SENSITIVITY I BELIEVE IT DESERVES. SO AGAIN, I'M, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH ANY ENGINEER THAT, THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS. UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE TECHNICALITIES. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND I THINK THAT'S IN THE CONDITION. SO I THINK WE'VE COVERED THAT. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. NO, WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK ALL, THANK YOU. YES. AND YOU MAY SPEAK, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GOOD EVENING, JIM METGER 4 27 MARBURN. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR YOUR EXTRAORDINARY CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROJECT. I AGREE IT'S UNUSUAL, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLEAD THEIR CASE. AND IF IN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES ARE WARRANTED, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE BOARD WOULD TAKE THAT PURVIEW, LOOK AT IT AND MAKE A DECISION. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. UM, I WAS DOING FINE TO MR. UH, I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. IAN DBI, UM, WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO USE MACHINERY. WE CAN'T JUST TAKE THIS DOWN BY HAND. AT THE LAST MEETING I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT A SITUATION THAT HAD OCCURRED IN THE BUILDING WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CLEANING UP, WHERE THEY WERE USING EITHER A SLEDGEHAMMER OR A HEAVY DUTY SCRAPER TO REMOVE FLOOR TILE. AND THERE WAS ALREADY, UH, UH, MORTAR COMING OUT OF THE BRICKS ON MY SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS FROM SOMEONE USING HAND TOOLS. MORTAR WAS COMING OUT OF A WALL UP AROUND THE THIRD FLOOR WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO TAKE TILE UP. SO TO TELL ME, OH, WELL BE CAREFUL, THEY ALREADY HAVE A HISTORY OF HAVING PEOPLE ON SITE, AS CAREFUL AS THEY MAY BE. MY ENGINEER CAME IN AND SAID TO USE ANY HEAVY EQUIPMENT, I'M TALKING ABOUT LARGE MECHANICAL MACHINES THAT ARE GONNA TAKE DOWN LARGE SECTIONS OF WALL. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JACK HAMMERS REMOVING SECTIONS OF BRICK. HE SAID, THAT IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER, [00:25:01] BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT ANY VIBRATION IN THAT BUILDING IS ING TO THE WALLS NEXT TO MY BUILDING. SO I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T GIVE A PERMISSION TO USE ANY HEAVY MACHINERY EXCEPT TO COLLECT BRICK THAT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND TO MOVE IT INTO A DUMPSTER. MY ENGINEER SAID, YOU START FROM THE ROOF AND GO DOWN. YOU DON'T GO FROM ONE SIDE AND ACROSS. MR. MANABI SENT ME A SKETCH, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED, SAYING, WELL, THIS IS TYPICALLY HOW WE DO IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD PULL OUT OF AN ENGINEERING HANDBOOK. AND ON ITS FACE, IT LOOKED PRETTY GOOD. AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I'M AN ARCHITECT, BUT THE JOISTS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE AS THE METHODS OF, OF REVIEWING THIS, THE JOISTS ARE RUNNING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION RELATIVE TO MY BUILDING. SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE A BUILDING DOWN WITH THE JOISTS RUNNING IN THE DIRECTION SHOWN IN THIS SKETCH THE WAY THEY'RE PROPOSING. BUT IN MY BUILDING, IF THEY REMOVE A SECTION OF WALL AND IT DESTABILIZES THE FLOOR JOISTS, THEY ARE GOING TO DESTABILIZE THE WALL NEXT TO MY BUILDING. AND THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A PROBLEM. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT MR. MONDAVI SAID, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING I TALKED ABOUT WITH PATTY VERY EARLY ON, WAS PROVIDING SOME LEVEL OF PROTECTION FROM MY ROOF. UM, I HAD MY HOUSE RE-ROOFED ABOUT TWO OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, AND WES, EXCUSE ME, SUGGESTED PUTTING DOWN PLYWOOD AS, AS SOME SECONDARY MEANS OF, OF PROTECTION. AND IT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT THEN IT SAYS HERE, UM, UH, RIGHT HERE, UH, IT WOULD CONSIST OF TWO INCH RIGID, RIGID INSULATION IN THREE QUARTER INCH PLYWOOD FASTENERS WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED TO PENETRATE YOUR ROOF AND MAY POSE AN ISSUE. SO CLEARLY THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE. I ASKED BEFORE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING CLOSER. THERE ARE FIVE ENGINEERS ON THIS PROJECT, UM, INCLUDING HAN, WHO REPRESENTS THE VILLAGE. FINDING AN ENGINEER IS EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT FOR ME. I HAD ONE ENGINEER COME IN, THEY PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL, IT WAS DEEMED TO BE TOO EXPENSIVE BY THE CLIENT, AND I SAID, LET ME LOOK FOR ANOTHER ENGINEER. I'VE ACTUALLY FOUND SOMEBODY, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COME IN UNTIL NEXT WEEK. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE, AND AGAIN, I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, WITH MR. SCHNEIDER ON THIS. MY ENGINEER NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION. AND WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT, I REALLY, I REALLY LIKED, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE, BUT I NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS ME, WHO HAS MY SIGNATURE ON THEIR CONTRACT TO REVIEW WHAT THEY'RE DOING BEFORE ANY WORK PROCEEDS. I'M TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, NOT, LIKE I SAID, NOT EASY FINDING AN ENGINEER. I'M ALSO TRYING TO FIND AN ATTORNEY TO HANDLE WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY A VERY SMALL ISSUE, BUT I FEEL I NEED SOMEBODY TO PROTECT MY INTEREST FROM WORK THAT'S BEING PRODUCED BY THE CLIENT. THANK YOU. UM, LINDA AND PATRICK, I FEEL THAT THE REVIEW IS COVERED IN WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE. UM, BUT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY, THEY DID REVISE THE SEQUENCING TO BE GOING FROM TOP DOWN. YEAH. AND THAT'S ON THE PLANS AND THE SEQUENCE AND ON PLANS. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE SEQUENCING? IF, IF WE WANT TALK ABOUT THE TECHNICALITIES, E IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE STEP UP AND DO SO, JUST FOR THE GENTLEMAN IS STEPPING UP, JUST AS A, I THINK THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE BOARD, I I JUST AS A MATTER OF PROCESS IN GENERAL IN THE VILLAGE, TO WHAT EXTENT WILL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BE CONDUCTING, SORT OF INDEPENDENT OF THESE CONDITIONS IN THE SITE PLAN, A REVIEW OF THE DEMOLITION PLAN, JUST TO ENSURE IT'S TECHNICAL ADVISABILITY, THEY'RE ENTIRELY IN CHARGE OF THAT PROCESS. YES. CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHERE IT HAPPENS. YES, YES. RIGHT. SO WHATEVER MATH THAT IS EMPLOYED WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE WITH BEST PRACTICES. DAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS DISCRETION DURING CONSTRUCTION, SO AS A MEANS AND METHODS CAN BE CHANGED THE DAY OF BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO ADDRESS A CONCERN. SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY GIVEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU'RE HEARING BEING DESCRIBED THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. AND BY REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE A SITE SAFETY MANAGER, THAT IS ANOTHER LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT EXTRA LAYERS OF REVIEW AND PROTECTION, BUT YES, PLEASE DO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION SO WE HAVE THAT FOR YEAH, NO PROBLEM. UM, I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, JUST AS A, A MATTER OF, OF HOW THINGS WERE BUILT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY NORMAL CONSTRUCTION, TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION, UM, IN, IN OF THAT TIME PERIOD IS, IS MYSTERY EXTERIOR WALLS, THAT, THAT'S FIRE RETARDANT. UM, AND THEN INTERIORS IS, IS WOOD PLATFORMS, UM, THAT THOSE WOOD PLATFORMS ACTUALLY AS ACT AS A DIAPHRAGM, UM, AND TO, TO BASICALLY TRANSMIT SHEER LOADS AS, AS WIND COMES, IT TRANSFERS IT OVER TO THE, THE, THE SIZE, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN, WHEN, WHENEVER, [00:30:01] RIGHT NOW, UM, THANKFULLY GRAVITY ISN'T AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE AS, AS SHEAR LOADS SIDE TO SIDE, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA CAUSE A BUILDING TO MOVE OR SHIFT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CAUSE PROBLEMS. UM, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TAKING THIS DOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY RECOMMENDED, UH, STRATEGY WOULD BE TO START AT THE, THE, THE, THE ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, WITH, WITH THE ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE MOST SPACE. UM, AND, AND YOU START BRINGING IT DOWN AS, AS AGAIN, IN, IN, IN THE STEPPED SOLUTION SO THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING BRACED TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, AGAIN, IF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S SELF BRACED, UM, THEN YOU, YOU, YOU CAN TAKE IT, YOU CAN MODIFY IT AND, AND WEAKEN IT FROM THE TOP DOWN. UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN THAT'S WHEN TEMPORARY SHORING COMES INTO PLACE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PREVENT, PREVENT MOVING IN THAT WAY. UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY SHORING IS OF THE QUESTION, TEMPORARY PROTECTION IS OF THE QUESTION. UM, I ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND FORTH AFTER I SENT THAT EMAIL, I WAS LIKE, I WOULDN'T WANT ANYONE PUNCHING MY ROOF EITHER. SO WE WERE FIGURING OUT A, A WAY WITH, YOU KNOW, THREE QUARTER INCH MIDDLE OR ROPE WITH SANDBAGS TO TIE IT DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS THING ISN'T GONNA MOVE. YOU KNOW? BUT AGAIN, THIS ALL OF, ALL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. MRS UM, PROBLEMS CAN BE ADDRESSED. AND, AND AGAIN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH, WITH ANY ENGINEER THAT, AND, AND, AND TALK THEM THROUGH. UM, AGAIN, I, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE, I UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY. UM, YOU KNOW, I, THIS IS NOT THE, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO END UP ON THE NEWS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S, UM, VERY SENSITIVE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING CARE. UM, AGAIN, LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE ALWAYS OPEN. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANKS. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, IF, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TONIGHT? NO. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO GAUGE, UM, FOR MY FELLOW PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, ARE WE READY TO ADAPT THIS, UM, THESE MEASURES FOR SITE PLANNER? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, THE LIST OF SITE CONDITIONS, UM, AS STATED BY OUR VILLAGE PLANNER AND AMENDED DURING THE COURSE OF OUR CONVERSATION? SO MOVED WHO SECONDS THAT SECOND. OKAY. UM, OKAY. AND, AND ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, THE REST OF THE, UM, BACK AND FORTH IS GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE NORMAL PROCESS, UM, BETWEEN THE FIELDING DEPARTMENT WITH SPECIAL PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE AND SEND IT TO YOU. YEAH, WELL YOU HAVE AWARE OF. THANK YOU. UM, RIGHT, SO THE ONLY OTHER [IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS] ITEM WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE, UM, EXTENSION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION OF WAR BORTON ONE LLC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 22 UNIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT ON FOUR EXISTING LOTS LOCATED AT ONE WARTON AVENUE. SAID PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE MR, UM, 1.5 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.160 AND 1 6, 7 1, 2, 4, AND SEVEN ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS. AND WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE? YES. THANK YOU. SO GOOD EVENING TO THE BOARD, GETTING TO THE VILLAGE PROFESSIONALS, VILLAGE STAFF. UH, MY NAME IS MARK BLANCHARD. I AM WITH, UM, VAN RUSO, KURT SCHWARTZ AND CHENNEL. NOW, UM, I HAVE BEEN THE ATTORNEY ON THE, ON THIS PROJECT SINCE 2021 WHEN WE FIRST WENT TO THE VILLAGE BOARD FOR ZONING AMENDMENT AND THEN THROUGH THIS BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. WE ARE, I'M ALSO, I REMAINED, THE PROJECT WAS SOLD. I REMAINED AS THE ATTORNEY. I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNERS NOW IN THE CITY OF YONKERS THROUGH THEIR ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS PROCESS AND ALSO WORKING OUT A DEAL, AN AGREEMENT, A DEAL, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT IN NOT REALLY AN IMA, IT'S, IT'S A CONTRACT AGREEMENT SETTING THE RATE FOR OUR OUT OF DISTRICT USE OF CITY OF YONKERS WATER. WE HAVE A WILL SERVE LETTER REGARDING THE SEWER. WE HAVE A CAPACITY LETTER SIGN OFF, WE HAVE APPROVAL ON CAPACITY FROM THE WATER AND SUPERINTENDENT AND ALSO FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE YET IS A FINAL AGREEMENT ON HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH IS THE THIS GOING TO COST. LEMME BACK UP FOR A SECOND. AFTER COVID, YONKERS HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A BOOM ON WALL BURTON AVENUE AND WHERE YOU CAN GO WEST OF WALL BURTON DOWN CLOSER TO THE YONKERS TRAIN STATION [00:35:01] ON AVALON, UM, ALEXANDER STREET, THAT USED TO BE ALL PETROLEUM STORAGE TANKS DOWN THERE. AND EVERYTHING NOW IS RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS AND STUFF. SO OUT OF THOSE BIGGER, MUCH BIGGER RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, THE CITY WAS GETTING THESE, UH, COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS FROM THE MUCH LARGER PROJECTS. EITHER, EITHER SOME SORT OF PAYMENT INTO PARKS AND REC OR SOME OTHER THINGS, OR MARTIN GINSBURG HAD DONE A WONDERFUL, UH, PARK, ACTUALLY THE PROJECT, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT, RICHARD QUIGLEY FROM IQ ARCHITECTURE DESIGNED THAT PARK IN, IN YONKERS, THE EAST SIDE OF WALL, BURTON AVENUE CAME OUT. IT WAS SPECTACULAR. SO WE ARE, AS I'VE TRIED TO ARGUE WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, SMALL POTATOES COMPARED TO WE'RE ONE UNIT IN YONKERS, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT OUR TOTALITY. AND SO WE ARE NOT AT AN IMPASSE, I WOULD SAY, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE IN TERMS OF THIS FEE, THAT'S NOT A CODIFIED FEE. THIS COMES OUT OF LIKE YOUR SECRET APPROVAL, A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN, UM, THE THROWS OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. YOU HAVE POINTED OUT TO THEM THAT YOU'RE PAYING A REC FEE OF HASTINGS . WELL, YEAH, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING, WE HAVE, WE'RE PAYING WHERE YOU HAVE 21 UNITS , RIGHT? WE'RE PAYING SORT OF NINE WAYS FROM SUN RAY. IT'S ALL CODIFIED, IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, LOOK. YEP. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GETTING YONKERS WATER, NOT PROJECT. THIS SITE HAS BEEN GETTING YONKERS WATER FOR 80 YEARS. UM, AND WE SORT OF POINTED OUT IT WASN'T REALLY RECEIVED AS, AS WELL AS I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE RECEIVED, BUT I DID POINT OUT TO THE YONKERS OFFICIALS THAT ALL OF THE BATHROOMS IN EVERY PIECE OF PLUMBING IN THE BUILDING ACTUALLY IS IN, HAS OR ARE IN HASTINGS. SO TECHNICALLY YONKERS IS SERVING THE HASTINGS BUILDING, , YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN SERVING THE HASTINGS BUILDING FOR 80 YEARS. THERE'S ALSO SORT OF THAT LITTLE COMPLICATION OF THE ELECTRIC OWL STUDIO. AND THERE'S, UH, LITIGATION GOING ON, WHICH I DID GET THE CITY TO AGREE. WE ARE COMPLETELY DISTINGUISHED FROM ANY OF THAT. SO I THINK WE HAVE SORT OF CARVED THAT OUT AND CUT THAT OFF. AND THAT SORT OF, EVEN THOUGH IT KIND OF LIKE LURKS IN THE BACKGROUND, IT'S NOT REALLY A PART OF MY DISCUSSION. SO SORRY FOR THE LONG-WINDED EXPLANATION, BUT WE ARE, I DID ASK HIM FOR AN EXPLANATION. , I JUST, IT'S QUITE INTERESTING. . WELL, I AM LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF SLEEP TO BE, TO BE FRANK ABOUT IT, BUT I PROMISE, I I, IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE. SO IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND YONKERS, SO THE, THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS EXTENSION IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. WE ARE CERTAINLY MOVING FORWARD, LET BACK UP. I I'M REMISS TO NOT GIVE YOU A TIMELINE. IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, I APPLIED TO THE YONKERS ZONING BOARD. AUGUST WELL, YONKERS BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THEIR, THEIR PROCESS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS, BUT APPLIED TO YONKERS, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT, GOT MY DENIAL, FORMAL APP APPLICATION INTO ZONING BOARD IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. MADE MY FIRST APPEARANCE IN SEPTEMBER, WENT BACK IN OCTOBER, AND THEN I'VE BEEN ADJOURNED AT, UH, WE HAD ALWAYS APPROACHED THAT THE WATER AGREEMENT WOULD BE WORKED OUT SORT OF AS A CONDITION, AS A CONDITION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL. WE, UH, AND OR AS A CONDITION OF THE YONKERS ZONING BOARD APPROVAL THAT WAS GOING SWIMMINGLY UNTIL THIS, A NEW COMMISSIONER IN YONKERS PUT THE BRAKES ON IT. UH, CHARLENE, UH, PUT THE BRAKES ON THE PROCESS AND SAID, I WANT IT DONE NOW. AND THEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SAID, YEAH, WHAT SHE SAID. SO , EVERYTHING SORT OF CAME TO A HALT. AND NOW WE ARE NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT. WE'D HAVE TO NEGOTIATE ANYWAY, BUT OUR PROCESS WAS, WE WANTED TO GET OUTTA THE APPROVAL AND THEN COME BACK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND PULL A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO START THE SITE WORK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARCEL. WE ARE LINED UP, READY TO GO HAVE CONTRACTORS, HAVE, HAVE EVERY, ALL, ALL THAT MATERIAL THAT HAS TO COME OUT. WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A, A PLAN PROVED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ARE READY FOR THAT PROCESS. BUT EVERYTHING'S BEING HELD UNTIL I FINISH THIS NEW PART OF THE PRO, PRO PROGRESS, THIS PART OF THE, OF THE PROCESS. IT JUST SO HAPPENS JUST AS A LITTLE MORE COLOR, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER OWNER OF THE PROJECT HAS KNOWN THE MAYOR OF YONKERS SINCE THE MAYOR WAS 12 YEARS OLD, NOW. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF, A LOT OF HANDSHAKING AND BACKSLAPPING. NOW THERE ARE NEW OWNERS TO THE PROJECT WHO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE YONKERS PEOPLE, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME. SO IT IS A LITTLE, UH, YOU GOTTA HOPE THEY DON'T WATCH THIS. I, IT IS A LITTLE, UH, NEGOTIATIONS HAVE, UM, I I I, IT IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF, IT'S NOT WHAT THEY TEACH YOU IN LAW SCHOOL. HOW ABOUT THAT ? WE JUST SHOULD HAVE GONE TO LAW SCHOOL AND YONKERS. YEAH, YEAH. SO IT'S BEEN, UH, UH, IT'S, LOOK, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT YONKERS IS NOT, I DON'T MEAN TO PAINT THEM IN A BAD LIGHT. THEY ARE CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, [00:40:01] RIGHT? JUST LIKE HASTINGS WAS. IT, IT CERTAINLY IS LIKE TURNING, I, I HATE TO SAY EYESORE, BUT I, I USED THAT MAYBE COULD HAVE USED A LITTLE BIT OF TOUCH UP. NOW WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, UH, TAKING THE VINYL FENCE DOWN, WE ALWAYS GO BACK TO THAT. THAT'S A GREAT FEATURE. YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE PROJECT. I'M SORRY, THE PROJECT SITE YONKERS IS FULLY ON BOARD WITH, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF US. THEY HAVE GAR. THEY SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE GETTING WATER. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SORT OF DANGLING WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA GET IT. YOU'RE GETTING IT. WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THIS . AND THAT'S, THAT SORT OF, UH, HASN'T BEEN AS EASY. I SAID, WELL, WE'LL PAY WHAT EVERYONE PAYS. UH, NO, NOT, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK IT OUT. ACTUALLY, THEY HAD OUT OF DISTRICT USERS. NOW THAT WITH, WITH DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION, THERE ACTUALLY ISN'T AN OUT OF DISTRICT USER RIGHT NOW. SO WE, WE ARE KIND OF AN ANOMALY, EVEN THOUGH THEIR CHARTER CERTAINLY ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE OUR USE. WE ARE GOING FROM A SMALLER USE TO A LARGER, IN TERMS OF CONSUMPTION. SO THAT IT'S JUST, LOOK, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. I'M, I COULD'VE BEEN 30 SECONDS WITH THIS DESCRIPTION, BUT I, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE BOARD KNOWS WE ARE IN DEBT. WE ARE PUTTING OUR FULL EFFORT INTO KEEPING MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE DO REALLY WANT THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. UM, , I, I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE BOARD. WE, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA BE PART OF, UM, ANY ROADBLOCKS. SO, UM, YEAH, WELL I, THAT'S BEEN SO FANTASTIC. EVERYTHING WITH THE VILLAGE HAS, HAS TREATED US SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. WITH THIS BOARD. WE'VE GOT NOTHING BUT SUPPORT. SO I, I'VE CONTINUED MY THANKS AND MY GRATITUDE FOR THAT SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR THAT QUITE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT WAS QUITE INTERESTING. I THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE THERAPY FOR ME RIGHT THERE. . SORRY ABOUT THAT. NEXT WEEK, SAME TIME. UM, DO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? SO WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT AN ADDITIONAL 12 MONTH EXTENSION OF THIS SITE PLAN APPROVAL? SO MOVED. ANGELIQUE SECONDS. IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOT YOUR EXTENSION. HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T BE HERE IN ANOTHER YEAR. NO, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ATTORNEY HERE AT THIS ROOM. . ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE ALMOST DONE. THIS IS A FAIRLY, UM, QUICK AGENDA THIS EVENING. I JUST DID WANNA, UM, TWO THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. ONE IS THE EMAIL WE GOT FROM, WELL, ORIGINALLY FROM THE MAYOR AND THEN THROUGH VILLAGE OFFICIALS ASKING US TO BE A PART OR PARTICIPATE IN SOME WAY IN SPRING THING. UM, WHERE THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTING CELEBRATING BOARDS AND OTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT VEHICLES. UM, AS I SAID TO YOU ALL, WHEN I PASS IT ALONG, UNFORTUNATELY I AM OUT OF TOWN THAT DAY, SO I'M HOPING AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE WANNA, UM, GO OUT THERE AND ENJOY . IT'S ON, IT'S ON UM, MAY 17TH. I BELIEVE THAT'S A SUNDAY, RIGHT? I'M IN MEETING ST. LOUIS. YOU'RE ALSO OUT OF TOWN. OKAY. UH, CARD GAME TWISTING ARMS HERE. I, I AM, I AM IN TOWN ON THE 17TH, I'M SURE. I'M SURE. BRING YOUR SON AND JUST LIKE BE, YOU'RE VERY SOCIAL. YOU CAN JUST LIKE HANG OUT AND, YOU KNOW, GET ICE CREAM AND CHAT WITH PEOPLE, I GUESS. UM, THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR DID AN EXECUTIVE CLEAR CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT, UM, SETTING UP A TABLE AND PRESENTING OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS MEANS, I MEAN WHAT'S THE YEAH, MAYBE. OH, MARY ELLEN. I DON'T KNOW. I, I, I TAKE SOME PLANNING BOARD STICKERS, PLANNING BOARD. THE ZONING BOARD IS TATTOOS. REFRIGERATOR MAG, YOU WANNA TALK TO THEM? THE ZONING BOARD IS GOING TO SET UP A TABLE AND DO SOMETHING. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA EVEN SHARE THE TABLE SHARE. THAT'D BE SO MUCH EASIER. YEAH. YEAH. JUST SHARE THE TABLE. YEAH, I MEAN HONESTLY I THINK IT'S, IF I WERE DOING IT, I'D LIKE PUT A BIG SIGN UP WHERE THE HASTINGS PLAYING BOARD, YOU WANNA COME TALK TO US AND HEAR ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND OR JUST COMPLAIN TO US. YEAH, THAT'S . WE'LL JUST CALL THE PLANNING BOARD FESTIVUS AND JUST COME AIR YOUR GRIEVANCES. UH, YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I, I'M AVAILABLE. I GOT ONE TAKER. I, MY SET, I MEAN WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE MAYOR, MY SENSE IS THAT THIS IS NOT EXACTLY AN LIKE, I THINK HE REALLY WOULD LIKE US TO DO THIS. HE'S NOT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PUT FORTH SOME EFFORT ON IT. HE WAS GOING OUT TO ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO SOME OF THEM LIKE CONSERVATION, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY IS YEAH. LIKE ACTIVITIES. YEAH. BUT STILL IT'S NICE TO BE REPRESENTED. SO THANK YOU PATRICK. I WILL COME POTENTIALLY LIKE HELP BECAUSE I'M USUALLY OUT THERE FOR VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THE DEMOCRATS AND THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND STUFF. SO YOU'LL ALSO BE THE PLANNER. YEAH. NOT THAT I KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. . OKAY. GOOD. GOOD. ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SO WE HAVE THAT, UM, COVERED. THANK YOU. UM, [00:45:01] AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT, UM, OVER THE YEARS, TYPICALLY WE HAVE PEOPLE VOLUNTEER TO BE A LIAISON TO THE OTHER BOARDS THAT ACTUALLY ARE RELEVANT TO US. AND, UM, WHAT THAT ENTAILS. SO THE, THE THREE BOARDS WHERE WE TYPICALLY HAVE A LIAISON IS ZONING BOARD, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND THE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, ALSO KNOWN AS A RB. AND THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE PERSON WHO'S WILLING TO BE THE LIAISON TO GO TO EVERY MEETING. IT'S MORE, UM, SPECIFIC ONES WHERE, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO ONE OF THOSE BOARDS OR WE WANNA, WE WANNA HEAR WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS. SO WE HAVE THAT BETTER COMMUNICATION AND COORDINATION. UM, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF AN INTERESTING THING TO DO. SO, UM, DO I, I DON'T WANNA PUT PEOPLE ON THE SPOT 'CAUSE I'M JUST RAISING IT NOW. YEAH. SO I'VE BEEN OFFICIALLY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIAISON FOR A WHILE. I'M STILL INTERESTED IN THAT. OKAY, GOOD. I'VE BEEN PRETTY, UH, PRETTY, UM, UH, NEGLIGENT AND . I MEAN, I, I AM, I'M STAYING IN TOUCH WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING. I, YEAH, I HAVE TO ADMIT, I HAVEN'T ATTENDED A MEETING IN A LONG TIME. OKAY. BUT, UM, WELL, LET'S REFRESH, BUT I'M IN TOUCH WITH ART REALA . OKAY. FREQUENTLY GOOD. ANYWAY. I'M WILLING TO, I'M INTERESTED, I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE IS MORE INTERESTED. SUPPORT. WERE YOU ON? WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. UM, AND THAT'S GOOD FOR ME TO, I, I, LIKE I SAID, I JUST OCCURRED TO ME I WASN'T KEEPING TRACK, SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE REMINDING ME OR YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO THAT WAY ALSO PERIODICALLY I MAY JUST, WHEN WE HAVE A LIGHT AGENDA, MAY I SAY LIKE, DOES ANYONE HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANNA SHARE? I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF WE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD FEEL MORE ACCOUNTABLE IF WE PUT ON THE AGENDA UPDATE FROM YEAH, YEAH. LIAISON TO THAT WOULD MOTIVATE ME TO, OKAY. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TOM IS, IS REACHING OUT TO US WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING TO UPDATE. YEAH. AND WE WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. YEAH. YEAH. WE WOULDN'T KNOW THAT UNLESS YOU TOLD US. RIGHT, RIGHT. ALTHOUGH I DO, I DO READ THE AGENDAS, SO IF I FLAG SOMETHING, I MAY JUST EMAIL YOU AND SAY, HEY, ARE YOU ATTENDING THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE KEPT ABREAST OF. YEAH. ALRIGHT. GOOD. SO ONE, ONE BOARD IS TAKEN CARE OF. ANYBODY INTERESTED IN ZONING OR A RBI WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LIAISING WITH ZONING. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, SO. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. COOL. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? UM, WELL, I, I LEARNED A LOT FROM, FROM YOU AND YOUR SKITS AND, WE'LL, PAT, PAT, WE'LL PAT BRING HIS JERSEY AND HIS WHISTLE. I'LL BRING MY WHISTLE BACK. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW. I'M SO SORRY I MISSED THAT . OH, IT WAS GOOD. AND WILL ONE OF MY SUPERIORS BE THERE? BECAUSE THAT WAS ALSO, IT'S RIGHT. SO WE'RE DOWN TO A RB. UM, I, I'LL TAKE IT ON. OKAY, GREAT. AND I THINK, I THINK I, FOR A RB AND ZONING, I, AND I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO TO EVERY MEETING. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT GO TO YOU AND TO THOSE PLACES. YES. THAT'S WHERE THE, AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT. YEAH. AGREED. SO WE JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AGENDA. OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT IT HERE WHERE WE SAY, OH, IT'S GOING TO A RB NEXT MONTH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE WASHINGTON NEWS IS ON A RB WATCH AT LEAST. YEAH, EXACTLY. OH, IS A RB RIGHT NOW. ALL COOL. ALL THAT WAS EASY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD. UM, VOLUNTEER SPIRIT HERE, ? YES. OKAY, WELL WITH THAT, DO I HAVE, WELL FIRST OF ALL, THE NEXT MEETING IS ON MAY 21ST ON MY SON'S BIRTHDAY, BUT I'LL BE HERE . UM, AND UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SO MOVED. SO WHO, SECONDS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.