* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] HELLO, EVERYONE. HELLO. HELLO. HELLO. HI. HI, EVERYBODY. WELCOME, WELCOME. WELL, SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. UM, SO WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE TECHNICAL GLITCH, BUT , RAF IS SOLVING IT, SO WE'LL BE READY TO GO LIVE SOON. SO WE'LL JUST DO THE INTRODUCTIONS AT THIS POINT. FIRST OF ALL, LET'S HEAR A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR, UH, SPONSORING THESE LUNCH AND LEARNS. SO GENEROUS AND ESPECIALLY, I WANNA THANK ANNE RUAK. HELLO ANNE, WHO IS THE FORCE BEHIND ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND, UM, ANN, REMIND ME YOUR COLLEAGUE'S NAME. AARON. AARON, WHO'S HEAD OF THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. AM I RIGHT? SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. AARON. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE RAF OUR TECHNICAL EXPERT. SO HE IS, UH, HE IS SOLVING THIS PROBLEM. AND, UH, WE'LL BE READY IN JUST A MINUTE. SO, IN THE MEANTIME, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY HELLO, I'M PAT BLOOM. I KNOW MANY OF YOU, UM, I'M, UH, FROM THE SENIOR COUNCIL AND, UM, WE COLLABORATE WITH ANN RUSK TO BRING SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, UM, THAT YOU ENJOY. UM, IN THE LAST, UH, ABOUT THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD THE, WHOOPS, JUST A SEC. IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE YOUTH COUNCIL. UM, THEY APPROACHED US AND SAID, WE WANNA DO SOME INTERGENERATIONAL PROJECTS. AND THAT WAS SUCH A, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY SUCH A BENEFIT FOR US. AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN, UH, AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF YOU HAVE ATTENDED SOME OF THE INTERGENERATIONAL EVENTS. UM, WE HAVE LORI WALSH RIGHT HERE, WHO'S THE ADVISOR. UM, SHE'S ON THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND THE ADVISOR FOR THE GROUP WHO CALLS THEMSELVES KIDS, WHICH STANDS FOR KIDS INVOLVED IN DOING SERVICE. SO AS PART OF THE KIDS GROUP, THEY HAVE THE INTERGENERATIONAL CLUB, AND THE TWO, UH, TECH EXPERTS WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH THE INTERGENERATIONAL CLUB ARE LEVY ROSENBAUM AND LUCA CHEN. AND SO THEY'RE HERE TODAY TO SHARE, UM, SOME OF THEIR TECH EXPERTISE, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF AI, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL HEARING ABOUT ALL THE TIME. AND IT'S LIKE, WE DON'T WANNA GET LEFT TOTALLY BEHIND, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO EDUCATE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AI. SO THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE HERE TO HELP US DO THAT, UM, IN, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT, UM, A PROJECT THAT THEY DO THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA BE INVOLVED IN. SO, UM, I THINK, ARE WE, ARE WE READY? ARE WE GOOD TO GO? WE JUST NEED A SIGN IN AND READY. OKAY, WONDERFUL. WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO IN JUST A MINUTE. , DID I LEAVE ANYONE OUT? I HOPE NOT. OKAY. SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT I TEACH MINDFULNESS AND A BIG AREA THAT IS CALLED MINDFULNESS BASED STRESS REDUCTION. SO THIS IS A MOMENT WHEN YOU ARE THE PRESENTER, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING REALLY HARD NOT TO GET STRESSED OUT. SO, UM, WE'LL BE THERE SOON. OH GOOD. WE'RE PUTTING DOWN THAT BACK SHADE. OKAY. HERE WE ARE. OKAY. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, HERE ARE LEVY AND LUCA TO PRESENT TO US ALL. HI EVERYONE. WELCOME. SO TODAY WE'RE JUST GONNA BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AI AND THE BENEFITS AND SOME OF THE RISKS, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO OKAY. AND THEN, OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE YOU GUYS GIVE US SOME PROMPTS TO PUT INTO AI SO WE CAN ALL TRY IT OUT TOGETHER. SO, TO GET THINGS, I THINK IT STILL HAS TO BE LOUDER. OKAY. I'M SORRY IF, IF ANYONE CAN'T HEAR, GO LIKE THIS AND WE'LL KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO, UM, SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER. OKAY. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ME AND LUCA HAVE BEEN DOING THIS YEAR IS WE'RE BOTH IN SCIENCE RESEARCH AND AS A PART OF OUR PROJECT, WE ARE DETERMINING AND FIGURING OUT HOW THE IMPLICATION AND THE TEACHINGS OF TECHNOLOGY CAN IMPACT THE LIVES OF OLDER, OLDER ADULTS. SO WITH [00:05:01] THAT, SO THE WHOLE YEAR WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ARTICLES. WE'VE GOTTEN A IRB, WHICH, SO WE'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL TO WORK WITH OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE, AND WE'VE JUST BEEN STUDYING, WE'VE BEEN JUST GETTING OUR PROJECT READY TO LAUNCH IN A COUPLE WEEKS. SO JUST TO GO OVER OUR RESEARCH PROJECT, OUR RESEARCH QUESTION IS, HOW WILL STRUCTURED DIGITAL LITERACY TRAINING LESSON AFFECT OLDER ADULTS TECHNO TECHNOLOGICAL CONFIDENCE, INDEPENDENCE IN COMPLETING DIGITAL TASKS AND FEELINGS OF SOCIAL CONNECTION? SO FOR THE PROCESS OF OUR STUDY, WE'RE GONNA START OFF BY OUR PARTICIPANTS COMPLETING A SHORT PRE-SURVEY, WHICH WE'LL JUST HAVE SOME BACKGROUND, SOME DEMOGRAPHICS, JUST SO WE CAN GET A SENSE OF YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH TECHNOLOGY IN THE PAST AND THINGS YOU MAY BE TRYING TO GET OUT OF TECHNOLOGY. AFTER THAT, YOU GUYS WILL ATTEND A 30 MINUTE TECHNOLOGY LESSON WHERE WE'LL GO OVER SOME TIPS AND TRICKS WITH IPHONES, STUFF LIKE THAT. WE'LL GO OVER SOME AI STUFF, SOME DIGITAL EDITING, INTERNET USE, AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. AND AFTER THAT, YOU GUYS WILL COMPLETE A SHORT POST-SURVEY, WHICH WILL COM, WHICH WILL COMPARE THE PRE-SURVEY TO THE POST-SURVEY. AND JUST SO WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE THE LESSON TO AFTER THE LESSON. AND THAT'LL ALL TOTAL IN AT ABOUT 45 TO 60 MINUTES. AND THIS IS JUST FOR OUR SCIENCE RESEARCH PROJECT TODAY. WE'LL JUST BE LOOKING AT AI, SO IF PEOPLE WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THE PROJECT. YEAH. SO YEAH, IN THE BACK OVER THERE WITH LORI, WE HAVE A SIGNUP SHEET WHERE YOU GUYS CAN PUT DOWN YOUR NAME AND EMAIL IF YOU GUYS WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS OPTIONAL. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. IT'S VOLUNTARY. SO, OKAY. WHAT IS AI? ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS COMPUTERS TO PERFORM TASKS THAT NORMALLY REQUIRE HUMAN INTELLIGENCE. IT WORKS BY ANALYZING LARGE AMOUNTS OF DATA TO FIND PATTERNS AND MAKE PREDICTIONS FROM THE PROMPTS THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN. IT CAN HELP WITH TASKS LIKE ANSWERING QUESTIONS, RECOGNIZING SPEECH OR SUGGESTING CONTENT. AND AI IS USED IN MANY TECHNOLOGIES TO THE PRESENT DAY, SUCH AS VOICE ASSISTANCE, NAVIGATION APPS AND ONLINE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND MOST OF THE APPS YOU USE ON YOUR DAILY BASIS. SOME COMMON USES OF AI CONSIST OF VOICE ASSISTANCE. SO THOSE HELP SET LIKE REMINDERS SUCH AS SIRI WITH YOUR IPHONES, ALEXA DEVICES, AND ANY GOOGLE ASSISTANCE. ALSO NAVIGATION APPS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO STREAMING AND SHOPPING RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE MOVIES AND MUSIC OR PRODUCTS. THERE'S ALSO TRANSLATION TOOLS THAT CONVERT TEXT TO SPEECH FOR DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. AND THERE'S ALSO CUSTOMER SERVICE CHATBOTS THAT ANSWER QUESTIONS ON WEBSITES, HEALTHCARE TOOLS THAT HELP DOCTORS ANALYZE SCANS OR MEDICAL DATA THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN TODAY'S AGE. AND SMART HOME DEVICES THAT CONTROL LIGHTS, THERMOSTATS, AND SECURITY SYSTEMS. ALSO, PHOTO APPS THAT CAN HELP RECOGNIZE FACES AND ORGANIZE PICTURES AUTOMATICALLY, WHICH CAN BE VERY HELPFUL IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK FOR PICTURES OF YOUR FAMILY, KIDS, GRANDKIDS, STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN ALSO ACCESSIBILITY TOOLS, WHICH CAN JUST HELP WITH MAKING LONGER TASKS MUCH SHORTER, JUST TO HELP YOU GUYS SAVE TIME. OKAY. SO NOW YOUR TURN. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE WANT. WE HAVE AI OPEN ON OUR COMPUTER, AND YOU GUYS CAN JUST TELL US SOME PROMPTS THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO TRY OUT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT NOT FOR AI, IT'S FOR YOU ABOUT THE MEDICAL. SO FOR THINGS LIKE IMAGING, X-RAYS, CAT SCANS, HOW DOES THE RELIABILITY COMPARE BETWEEN HUMANS AND THE WONDERFUL SOFTWARE? SO YEAH, DEFINITELY. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO AI PROVIDES ALMOST LIKE A QUICKER ALTERNATIVE. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT COMPLETELY REPLACING DR. LE CAN, CAN YOU JUST REPEAT THE QUESTION? WE'LL, OH, YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE MIC FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA ASK QUESTIONS, BUT JUST REPEAT THE QUESTION SO PEOPLE HEARD IT. OKAY. SO STEVEN'S QUESTION WAS LIKE, HOW, WHAT'S THE, UM, LIKE CAN YOU, IS SORRY, RELIABILITY. YEAH, THE RELIABILITY OF THESE SCANS IN DOCTOR'S OFFICES AND DOCTORS AND HOW THEY USE THOSE. SO OBVIOUSLY THESE AI TOOLS AREN'T FULLY REPLACING DOCTORS, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY MAKING THEIR JOBS EASIER. AND SOME, LIKE PARTS OF THE MEDICAL FIELD, I STILL THINK DOCTORS ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT, LIKE THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS LIKE ACCURATE, BUT I DON'T, IT'S NOT REPLACING DOCTORS' JOBS COMPLETELY, BUT ARE YOU SAYING IT'S AS ACCURATE OR MORE ACCURATE, OR THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED? IT'S MORE ACCURATE. I JUST READ AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES IN THE ER, AI IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE DOCTOR IN THE ER. WOW. IN, IN, IN, YEAH. THERE [00:10:01] WAS AN INTERESTING ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES, UM, SAID, SAID THAT IN THE ER, AI IS BETTER AT FINDING AND PREDICTING WHAT'S PRO THE PROBLEM WITH THE PATIENT AT A HIGHER, MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN DOCTORS. WELL, OKAY, SO, UM, I'M A DOCTOR, SO OBVIOUSLY , I HAVE A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. SO THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO ASK AT, AT WHAT TASK, BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE IN THE ATLANTIC IN THIS LAST YEAR THAT, UM, COMPARED HARVARD'S SMARTEST DIAGNOSTICIAN TO A COMPUTER AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT DIAGNOSIS. AND THEY BOTH CAME UP WITH THE SAME DIAGNOSIS. THE COM THE DOCTOR HAD SEVERAL WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT IT, THE COMPUTER DID IT IN A FEW MINUTES. HOWEVER, THAT ARTICLE ALSO POINTED OUT THAT THE, THAT ASKING A COMPUTER A MEDICAL QUESTION, UM, IT ONLY, IT'S ONLY CORRECT IN AT, AT THIS UM, POINT OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S CORRECT ABOUT 30% OF THE TIME, SO YOU CAN GET INTO BIG TROUBLE. AND THEY CITED PEOPLE WHO HAD ACTUALLY DIED BY FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, WRONG DIRECTIONS, HAVING TO DO WITH TOXICOLOGY. SO A LITTLE GRAIN OF SALT, BUT YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU DITCH YOUR DOCTOR AND GO JUST WITH YOUR COMPUTER. UM, SO OKAY, LET'S TURN IT BACK OVER. UM, HOW ABOUT A QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD WANNA ASK AI? MARIA, DO YOU HAVE ONE? YES. AI. WHO PAYS YOUR SALARY? , WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR YOU TO WORK FOR ME? , GREAT QUESTION. DID EVERYONE, EVERYONE HEARD THE QUESTION? WHO, WHICH AI IS THIS THAT WE'RE ASKING CHA? YEAH, SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH CHACHA PT BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST COMMON. OKAY. CHAT. GPT. HAS EVERYONE HEARD OF THAT? THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMMONLY USED SEARCH INCENTIVE, FINANCIAL INCENTIVE. WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE? INCENTIVE? OKAY. OKAY, HERE WE GO. . OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE, BUT IT SAID I DON'T HAVE A SALARY. PERSONAL GOALS OR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES. I'M A TOOL CREATED BY OPENAI AND OPERATED ON THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S NOT A PERSON. YEAH, IT'S NOT A PERSON, BUT, OKAY. SO HOW OPENAI MAKES MONEY. OKAY. SO OPENAI MAKES MONEY FROM PRODUCTS AND SERVICES PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS PAY FOR. SO SUCH AS SUBSCRIPTIONS, API ACCESS ENTERPRISE OFFERINGS AND PARTNERSHIPS. AI'S INCENTIVE IN A PRACTICAL SENSE IS THAT IT'S DESIGNED AND TRAINED TO BE USEFUL, ACCURATE, AND SAFE SO PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE FINDING THE PRODUCT VALUABLE. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BILLIONAIRES INVOLVED IN AI. SO HOW DOES THAT MONEY FLOW? YEAH, SHOULD WE ASK? YEAH, WE CAN ASK. SO HE'S TYPING IN HOW DOES THE MONEY FLOW WITHIN THE BILLIONAIRES THAT OWN AI. SO YOU CAN SEE IT, IT CHURNS OUT REALLY A LOT OF INFORMATION. YOU GUYS WANNA GO, WHY DON'T YOU GO OVER THAT. SO A LOT OF THE TIME WITH CHATE IS THAT IT GIVES OUT, UM, A LOT OF INFORMATION AT ONCE. SO IT WILL GIVE YOU LIKE ONE, TWO, IN THIS CASE IT GAVE ME SEVEN ANSWERS AND DIFFERENT BULLETS UNDERNEATH IT, EACH ANSWER. SO IT GIVES YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS HOW YOU USE THAT INFORMATION, UH, TO LIKE WHAT CAPACITY AND MAKE SURE TO FACT CHECK IT. ALSO. YOU WANNA GO OVER WHAT? YEAH, SO THE FIRST THING I TALKED ABOUT IS HOW CAPITAL COMES FROM THE INVESTORS IN THE LARGE TECH COMPANIES. SO LIKE AMAZON, GOOGLE, LIKE ALL THOSE SERVICES USE AI. SO THEY'RE ALSO SUPPLYING MONEY TOWARDS THE BIGGER A AI COMPANIES MAKE IT LARGER. CAN YOU ENLARGE THE PROBLEM? YEAH, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK AI. SO IT SAYS AI COMPANIES GO AHEAD. SPEND. OKAY. SO YEAH, THE SECOND ONE IS AI COMPANIES SPEND HUGE AMOUNTS ON THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO MOST OF THE MONEY IMMEDIATELY FLOWS BACK OUT AGAIN INTO THE DATA CENTERS, ELECTRICITY CHIPS THAT THE AI IS RUNNING ON THE CLOUD THAT IS [00:15:01] STORING ALL THE AI INFORMATION AND THEN THE RESEARCHERS AND ENGINEERS BEHIND IT. ALSO, AI USES UP A LOT OF WATER, WHICH IS VERY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS RIGHT NOW WITH AI USE. YEAH. AND ELECTRICITY. AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T WANT THESE HUGE DATA CENTERS BUILT RIGHT IN THEIR, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, YEAH. LET'S SEE. SO YOU WANNA JUST SUM, MAYBE SHOW A FEW OF THE OTHER POINTS HERE? WE CAN HAVE IT, WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IT SUMMARIZE ALL THESE BULLET POINTS INTO LIKE ONE SENTENCE IF YOU GUYS WANT. SO, ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE WHAT THE SUMMARY SAYS. SUMMARIZE THIS INTO ONE SENTENCE, GO AHEAD AND READ THAT. OKAY, SO ITS SUMMARY FOR ALL OF THIS WAS A SMALL GROUP OF WEALTHY INVESTORS AND TECH COMPANIES FUND AI DEVELOPMENT PROFIT MAINLY THROUGH THE OWNERSHIP AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONTROL AND REINVEST THE REVENUE INTO EVEN LARGER AI SYSTEMS, CREATING A SELF-REINFORCING CONCENTRATION OF ECONOMIC POWER. THAT'S WHY A LARGE MORAL DILEMMA HAS TO DO WITH WILL THERE BE A PERMANENT UNDERCLASS IN OUR COUNTRY LEFT BEHIND BY THE TECH BILLIONAIRES THAT ARE, UH, CREATING ALL OF THIS. SO HOW, HOW ABOUT IF WE GO TO A KIND OF MORE PRACTICAL QUESTION. DID YOU YES. UH, HOW DO I KNOW IF, UH, YOU HAVE TO PREPARE YOUR THESIS TO GET YOUR DEGREE? HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT AI DID NOT DO IT? HOW YOU IDENTIFY IT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS CYBERSECURITY. ARE THEY IN CONTROL ON THE AI FROM DOING HARM? SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS HOW YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUMAN GENERATED PICTURE AND AN AI GENERATED PICTURE? WAS THAT IT? I HAVE TO WRITE FOR MY, UH, I GRADUATE IN FOR MEDICAL SCHOOL AND I HAVE TO WRITE THE THESIS. SO HOW DO, HOW CAN YOU TELL, CAN, CAN YOUR PROFESSOR TELL IF YOU REALLY WROTE WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED FOR YOUR THESIS OR IF IT WAS GENERATED BY AI? YEAH, SO I THINK TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, UM, WHETHER WE CAN DETECT AI BASICALLY IN WRITING, UM, IS THERE ARE AI DETECTORS AND I'VE ACTUALLY FOUND THAT AI DETECTORS HAVE BEEN GROWING JUST AS PROFOUNDLY AS THE AI THEMSELVES. SO IN OUR SCHOOL THEY HAVE AI DETECTORS LIKE TURN IT IN, WHICH IS JUST SENSES AND GOES THROUGH THE WRITING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HUMAN OR NOT PLAGIARIZED. UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK A LOT OF THE TIME YOU CAN TELL WHEN IT IS AI TEXT, ALSO AI IN WRITING, IT USES A LOT OF THE SAME PATTERNS THROUGHOUT ALL OF ITS WRITING. SO FOR TEACHERS WHO ARE CONSTANTLY GRADING AND, AND LOOKING OVER THESE THESIS OR BIGGER LIKE AMOUNTS OF WRITING, THEY CAN USUALLY TELL WHETHER OR NOT A TEXT WAS WRITTEN BY AI OR NOT. HAVING SAID THAT, MANY TEACHERS ARE TURNING TO HAVING STUDENTS WRITE EVERYTHING BY HAND IN THE CLASSROOM. SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. POLLY, I KNOW HERE IS A BIG, BIG FAN OF AI, SHE USES IT A LOT. UM, COULD YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING? UM, I LOVE THE ONE ABOUT YOUR REFRIGERATOR. YOU WANNA POSE THAT ONE ? SO CAN THE, I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT, UM, CAN I UPLOAD A PIC OR HOW COULD THE, UM, HOW COULD YOU HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT TO MAKE FOR DINNER WITH THE LE WITH WHAT'S IN MY REFRIGERATOR? I THINK IT'S FINE. NO SMELL CHECK. I CAN USUALLY UNDERSTAND. UM, I HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT'S IN MY REFRIGERATOR. CAN YOU, UH, IN A FILE, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION? YEAH, WE CAN. DO YOU WANT TO BRING UP THE PICTURE? I DON'T HAVE IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I DID. YEAH. UM, SO WE COULD SAY THAT, SHOULD WE SHOW IT A PICTURE? YEAH, WHAT IS IT? READ WHAT IT TELLS YOU. OKAY. SO THE FIRST THING IT SAID IS IT WANTS YOU TO LIST EVERYTHING YOU HAVE IN YOUR REFRIGERATOR AND THEN IT'LL SUGGEST A FEW RECIPES OR DINNER OPTIONS YOU CAN MAKE FROM IT. SO IT WANTS YOU TO INCLUDE THE PROTEINS IN YOUR FRIDGE, THE VEGETABLES, THE DAIRY, THE LEFTOVERS, THE SAUCES AND THE GRAINS. AND THEN FROM THAT IT'LL GENERATE YOU A RECIPE OR FIND YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHAT YOU CAN MAKE. OKAY. SO I'LL DO IT. SO I HAVE UM, TOFU, I HAVE SOME RED PEPPERS AND I HAVE SOME, THIS IS TOO EASY. [00:20:01] TERIYAKI SAUCE. TERIYAKI YOU'LL SPELL, HUH? YEAH, YEAH. STIR FRY THE RECIPE FOR TERIYAKI TERIYAKI TOFU STIR FRY. SO YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINES A WHOLE PLAN FOR HOW TO PUT TOGETHER HER TOFU AND, UH, TERIYAKI SAUCE AND PEPPERS. YEAH. AND IT ALSO GAVE HER MULTIPLE OPTIONS IN CASE SHE PREFERS ADDITIONAL, SHE WANTS CRISPY TERIYAKI OR THE QUICKEST POSSIBLE VERSION. SO YOU SEE VERY PRACTICAL USE. RIGHT. LORI, HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHICH AI SYSTEM TO USE? HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHICH AI SYSTEM TO USE? SO YEAH, THERE ARE LIKE MANY DIFFERENT AI SYSTEMS SUCH AS CHAT, BT, CLAUDE, GROK, ALL OF THESE CHAT BT IS GENERALLY THE MOST LIKE EASY TO USE AND GENERATIVE AI. SO THAT MEANS IT CAN GENERATE IDEAS FOR YOU AND IT'S JUST, IT'S GOOD FOR SIMPLE TASKS. SO THEY'RE, SO YEAH, THERE. WE ALSO HAVE GEMINI HERE, WHICH IS GOOGLE'S AI. SO IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON PREFERENCE OF WHICH AI YOU WANT TO USE. THEY'RE ALL LIKE, THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH ALL DO THE SAME THING. CHAT VT IS GENERALLY LIKE THE EASIEST TO USE, AND I'M SURE MOST OF YOU HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST OF GOOGLING SOMETHING, RIGHT? OKAY. SO YOU JUST GO INTO YOUR BROWSER AND YOU PUT IN WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK UP. NOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED IN THE LAST YEAR THAT THE FIRST ANSWER IT GIVES YOU IS GENERATED BY GEMINI. AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? RIGHT. SO YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY USING AI IF YOU GOOGLE SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. UM, TO GET INTO CHAT, GPT, YOU JUST TYPE IN CHAT GT.COM, RIGHT? YEP. AND IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THIS SEARCH WHERE YOU PUT IN YOUR QUESTION. SO WITH ALL THESE AI SERVICES, THERE IS THE FREE VERSION, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO PUT IN SOME PROMPTS. IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO PUT IN ANY IMAGES OR STUFF LIKE THAT. REALLY JUST THE BASICS. BUT THEN WITH EACH AI SERVICE, THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S PLANS THAT YOU CAN DO. SO LIKE A $20 A MONTH MAY ALLOW YOU TO DO MORE CHATS, IT'LL BE MORE ADVANCED, IT'LL ALLOW YOU TO PUT PICTURES, IT'LL ALLOW YOU TO GENERATE IMAGES. AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO LIKE THE $200 A MONTH PLANS, WHICH WILL ALLOW YOU TO LIKE CODE WEBSITES AND MUCH MORE STUFF THAT LIKE AREN'T REASONABLE FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON. OKAY, LET'S GO OVER HERE. UH, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY USE AS DATA SOURCES? BECAUSE WE SAID WE ARE LEARNING THAT, UH, SOME DATA SOURCES ARE NOT AVAILABLE FREE. SO WHEN THEY GET THE INFORMATION, HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S REAL INFORMATION? SO YEAH, MOST AI SERVICES, THEY LOOK THROUGH THE WEB, LIKE THE, LIKE THE INTERNET AND LOOK THROUGH THE WEB. THEY LOOK AT WEBSITES THAT THEY USUALLY TAKE REAL DATA. I MEAN, SOMETIMES IT MAY ALTER THE DATA JUST TO GIVE YOU THE RESPONSE YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR. BUT YEAH, THAT IS ONE OF THE ETHICAL, UH, DILEMMAS WITH AI IS THAT SOMETIMES IT JUST GIVES YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR TO TRY AND PLEASE YOU OR TO MAKE YOU GO BACK AND USE AI AGAIN. SO THAT IS SOMETHING JUST TO LOOK OUT FOR. WHILE YOU GUYS MAY USE AI, COULD YOU SAY MORE ABOUT, CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF SORRY, HOW IT CAN SENSE AND PLEASE YOU, SO ONE THING THAT I'VE PERSONALLY DEALT WITH WAS I HAD A IMAGE, AN OLD IMAGE THAT WAS BLURRED AND I ASKED IT, CAN YOU UNBLUR THIS IMAGE, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE CLEAR? AND WHAT IT DID WAS MADE MY FACE MORE LIKE STRUCTURED AND CLEAR AND MADE ME MORE LIKE ATTRACTIVE TO MAYBE LIKE, TO MAYBE MAKE ME WANT TO USE IT MORE OFTEN. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY, LIKE, FUNNY HOW IT CHANGED MY FACE. AND SO THAT WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. YEAH. GOT IT. SO BASICALLY AI, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER COMES FROM JUST GATHERING ALL THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S A VERY FAST PROCESS. IT SCANS THE INTERNET VERY QUICKLY TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION, SUMMARIZES IT, AND THEN INPUTS IT. AND WHAT, SOMETIMES YOU HEAR ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE, THAT UM, THE COMPANY OR WHATEVER HAS USED THE WORK OF LET'S SAY CERTAIN ACTORS OR CERTAIN WRITERS TO TRAIN THEIR AI AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE OBJECT, YOU'RE USING MY WORK TO TRAIN YOUR COMPUTER. UM, ISN'T IS THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS NOW? SO YEAH, DEFINITELY. LIKE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS LIKE AI TAKING STUFF FROM THE INTERNET AND LIKE TYPICALLY NOT CITING IT LIKE AS IF IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S WORK. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO NAVIGATE. IF YOU'RE USING [00:25:01] AI, LIKE USUALLY IT'S NOT THE BEST IDEA TO JUST COPY AND PASTE EVERYTHING. YOU GET A GREAT, LIKE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE IS TO PARAPHRASE, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT STEALING ANYBODY ELSE'S INFORMATION AND THAT YOUR WORK ISN'T NECESSARILY LIKE, CITED COMPLETELY BY AI. I JUST, I HAVE A FAST, UM, THING THAT I DO IS THAT I ASK IT TO REFERENCE WHAT I, UM, WHEN I GET INFORMATION AND I'M KIND OF, SOMETIMES IT'S VERY GOOD. IT'S LIKE THE NEW ENGLAND, NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE AND SOMETIMES IT REDDIT. SO IT'S GOOD TO ASK FOR WHAT THE REFERENCES ARE. YEAH. AND TO ADD ONTO THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE TIMES THE MORE SPECIFIC YOUR PROMPT IS INTO AI, THE BETTER ANSWER YOU'LL GET. SO IF YOU SAY STAY AWAY FROM REDDIT OR FOCUS ON NEWS ARTICLES, IT WILL DO THAT. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SHOOT? DO YOU WANNA PRACTICE SOMETHING ELSE? UM, ASKING A QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK, UM, WHAT LEVY AND LUKE ARE POINTING OUT IS THE BETTER THE QUESTION YOU ASK, THE BETTER THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GONNA GET BACK. AND YOU CAN ALSO, ONCE IT GIVES YOU INFORMATION, YOU CAN REFINE IT. LIKE, SO NO, I DON'T, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YOU WANNA ASK IT BETH HERE? YEAH, SORT OF . UM, SO WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE OF GOING TO SOMETHING LIKE CHAT GBT OR JUST GOING INTO A GOOGLE SEARCH? UM, I DON'T USE G YOU KNOW, CHAT GBT, BUT I DO USE SEARCH ENGINES, VARIOUS ONES, AND I COULD ASK THAT THE SAME QUESTION. I THINK LAST TIME WHEN YOU WERE HERE, I ASKED A QUESTION, WHICH MOVIE IS BETTER, RIGHT? SO, UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT MOVIE SHOULD I GO SEE TODAY? OKAY, SO YEAH, THE QUESTION WAS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST SEARCHING SOMETHING UP IN THE GOOGLE SEARCH BAR VERSE PUTTING IT INTO AI? SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS WHEN YOU TYPE SOMETHING ON GOOGLE, IT'LL GIVE YOU THE LIST OF ALL LIKE ARTICLES AND LISTS THAT IT CAN FIND INFORMATION FROM VERSUS WHEN YOU USE AI, IT'LL KIND OF JUST LIKE COMPRESS ALL THAT INFORMATION INTO ONE SHORT DOCUMENT THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH JUST GIVE YOU THE SUMMARY, THE SUMMARY OF ALL LIKE THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER, JUST TO MAKE TO BE QUICKER. IT DIGESTS. YEAH. SO PREDIGESTS THE INFORMATION, SO GOOGLE WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, SO GOOGLE WILL GIVE YOU A LIST OF LIKE, WHEN YOU TYPE SOMETHING IN, IT'LL GIVE YOU LIKE A BUNCH OF ARTICLES AND LISTS AND LIKE PRIOR INFORMATION VERSUS WHEN YOU USE AI, IT'LL KIND OF JUST TAKE ALL THAT AND COMPRESS IT AND DIGEST IT AND LIKE SUMMARIZE IT INTO A SHORTER PIECE. LENNY, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE? SHOW US BOTH WAYS. SO YEAH, YOU LIKE, SO WE'LL TRY THIS PROMPT AFTER WE DO THE EXAMPLE. YEAH. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SEARCH UP? AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE MOVIE. YEAH, DO THE MOVIE. OH, OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. GOOGLE VERSUS DOCUMENTATION. DO YOU HAVE TO WRITE IN WHERE SHE IS? OR, YOU KNOW, I'M IN HASTINGS ON HUDSON. WHAT MOVIE SHOULD I SEE? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. SO THAT AI OVERVIEW IS GEMINI, RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE'LL SKIP THAT AI OVERVIEW BECAUSE THAT'S AI AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT, JUST LOOKING IT UP ON GOOGLE GIVES US. SO YEAH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ARTICLES FROM LIKE FAN D**O, YELP, ALL THOSE. AND IF WE SCROLL DOWN, WE HAVE EVEN MORE LIKE THE ACTUAL CINEMAS. AND THEN THERE'S LIKE MULTIPLE PAGES AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, LIKE ONE THROUGH 10. SEE, IT JUST KEEPS GOING AND GOING. THERE'S LOTS OF LISTS. SO YEAH. AND THEN IF WE GO BACK TO AI AND PUT IT IN, LET'S SEE WHAT, SO WANNA READ IT? SO YEAH, SO IT SAID IF YOU WANT THE SAFEST GREAT NIGHT AT THE MOVIES PICK RIGHT NOW I'D GO WITH THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA TOO. IT'S GETTING HUGE AUDIENCE REACTIONS. THE THEATERS ARE LIVELY FOR IT, AND IT'S THE KIND OF CROWD PLEASER THAT'S GENUINELY FUN TO SEE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. SO INSTEAD OF GIVING US A BUNCH OF ARTICLES LIKE WE SAW WITH GOOGLE, IT JUST MADE EVERYTHING SHORTER AND PUT IT INTO THIS ONE ANSWER. BUT IT GAVE YOU A A, IT GAVE YOU ALL THE MOVIES THAT ARE OUT NOW THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA GO SEE. YEAH, LIST SOME OTHER ONES TOO. IT SAYS, FOR HORROR HOKU, FOR S FOR SCI-FI WITH HEART PROJECT. HAIL MARY FOR HORROR, HOKU FOR PRESTIGE AND DRAMA. ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER KEEPS GOING. AND THEN ANOTHER COOL THING THAT [00:30:01] IT DID WAS IT GAVE YOU, UM, IF YOU CLICK ON EACH MOVIE, YOU CAN NOW SEE A QUICK FACTS ABOUT THE MOVIE. SO IF YOU WANNA LOOK INTO IT, AI IS WONDERFUL. THE ONLY THING IS THAT WE HAD A VERY BIG LAWSUIT RECENTLY THAT IT GAVE INFORMATION TO CHILDREN THAT THEY DID A LOT OF HARM. HOW CAN YOU BLOCK AI FROM CERTAIN, LIKE FROM THE CHILDREN THAT YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO BE AWARE OF? YEAH, SO THE QUESTION WAS ARE YOU ABLE TO BLOCK AI FROM CHILDREN USING IT? AND UM, THAT'S, IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? LIKE WHAT RIGHTS? SO YEAH, I MEAN LIKE PARENTS CAN OBVIOUSLY LIKE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON DEVICES THAT CHILDREN ARE USING. IF THEY HAVE PHONES, THEY CAN LIMIT THE APPS THAT THEY GET ACCESS TO, SO THEY CAN JUST ELIMINATE AI OFF THEIR DEVICES COMPLETELY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO LIKE, YOU PUT IT BACK, YOU CAN, THERE'S JUST LIKE IN SETTINGS YOU CAN DO LIKE DON'T ALLOW THIS APP, THIS APP JUST, AND THEN YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST PUT IT BACK WITH LIKE A PASSCODE. YEAH, JUST IN SCHOOLS ALSO THEY CAN BLOCK, UM, ANY LIKE AI OR YEAH, OFF IF THEY'RE USING THE WIFI, THEY CAN BLOCK ANYTHING. IN OTHER WORDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUDENTS USE THE AI. YEAH. AND IN OUR SCHOOL IN HASTINGS, THEY LET US USE CHAT GBT, BUT I THINK THEY BLOCK THE OTHER AIS AND THEN THEY OBVIOUSLY TELL US TO USE IT WITH IS THAT, IS THAT USING CHAT GPT ON A DEVICE THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CLASSROOM? SO YEAH, THE SCHOOL LIKE ISSUES US CHROMEBOOKS, BUT THEN ADDING ONTO THAT, ANOTHER ONE OF THE SCHOOL'S LIKE BIGGEST POINTS IS DON'T LET THE AI THINK FOR YOU, LET IT HELP YOU THINK SO INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING IT A PROMPT AND USING EVERYTHING IT GIVES YOU, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE AN ESSAY, IF YOU'RE HAVING IT PLUG IN LIKE EVERYTHING, YOU WANT TO WRITE THE ESSAY AND THEN YOU'RE JUST COPYING THAT ONTO THE DOCUMENT AND TURNING IT IN. THAT'S NOT VERY ETHICAL. BUT IF YOU HAVE IT GIVE YOU LIKE AN OUTLINE FOR THE ESSAY SO YOU CAN HELP STAY ORGANIZED IN IDEAS, THEN THAT'S LIKE THE MORE ETHICAL WAY TO USE IT. YOU, YOU MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT HASTINGS SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES NOT ALLOW STUDENTS TO BRING THEIR SMARTPHONES INTO THE SCHOOL, RIGHT? OR THEY OR YOU HAVE TO LOCK THEM INSIDE. YEAH, WE HAVE TO LOCK THEM IN A POUCH. AND IT'S A NEW YORK STATE LAW NOW. YEAH. AND YOU, AND YOU CAN'T GET YOUR DEVICE BACK UNTIL YOU LEAVE THE SCHOOL. YOU SWIPE IT THROUGH A DETECTOR. NOW I TEXTED A STUDENT THAT I'M IN, UH, COLLABORATING WITH SOMETIME RECENTLY AND I FIGURED, WELL, I WON'T HEAR BACK FROM HER UNTIL THE END OF THE SCHOOL DAY. I GOT A TEXT RIGHT BACK FROM HER. I SAID, HOW DID YOU TEXT ME BACK? SHE SAID, I DID IT ON MY WATCH. SO SO THERE ARE SOME WORKAROUNDS. . YEAH. UM, BUT SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO USE THE AI AS A RESEARCH TOOL OR, AND YOU, AND THE HOPE IS THAT THE TEACHER, IF YOU, LET'S SAY IT'S NOT YOU GUYS, BUT SOMEONE WHO'S LESS ETHICAL THAN YOU JUST HAS IT, WRITE THE ESSAY FOR THEM, THE TEACHER WILL BE ABLE TO DETECT IT, YOU HOPE? OKAY, ANOTHER QUESTION. SURE. UH, I KNOW THAT A, A FACEBOOK MET CAME OUT WITH THE STATEMENT MARK ZUCKERBERG AND HE SAID THAT FOR A THEY CAN, SORRY AND THAT THEY, YOU CAN FILE A WHOLE DEPARTMENT FOR ONE AI PERSON. AND RECENTLY ALSO MICROSOFT FILED A 10,000 EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE AI. MY QUESTION IS HOW, HOW YOU COULD SEE THE SO YOUNG PEOPLE, HOW YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE VERSUS THE PLUS AND THE MINERS. IN OTHER WORDS, DID EVERYONE HEAR THE QUESTION CONCERN? WHAT IS THE CONCERN OF YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT UM, AI REPLACING HUMANS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE JOB MARKET THAT THEY'RE GONNA FACE WHEN THEY GET OUT OF COLLEGE OR TECHNICAL SCHOOL OR WHATEVER? YEAH, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A BIG CONCERN THAT AI IS TAKING OVER LOTS OF JOBS IN MANY DIFFERENT FIELDS. SO I MEAN THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO GO ABOUT IT REALLY. LIKE WE JUST HAVE TO HOPE THAT LIKE AI DOESN'T TAKE OVER ALL JOBS OR THAT'LL LEAVE US WITH AT ANY JOBS IN THE FUTURE. BUT I MEAN, I MEAN IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER BECAUSE AI IS RAPIDLY INVOLVING AND IT'S VERY HARD TO PREDICT. BUT UM, LUCKILY THERE ARE SIGNS THAT SOME BIG CEOS OF AI DO FOLLOW ETHICAL RULES. LIKE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, ANTHROPIC WHO OWNS CLAUDE AI, UM, [00:35:01] SEPARATED FROM THE US MILITARY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT AI AUTOMATED WEAPONS TO BE USED WITHOUT HUMAN CONTROL BASICALLY. SO THEY SEPARATED AND SAID THAT THAT WASN'T ETHICAL FOR THEM. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE OF AI, IT'S VERY UNPREDICTABLE AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE EDUCATE EVERYONE ON HOW TO USE IT APPROPRIATELY AND ETHICALLY. I HOPE NEXT GENERATION, YEAH, WE'RE COUNTING ON THE NEXT GENERATION TO SAVE US FROM SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. I GET A LOT OF UNSOLICITED SHOPPING SUGGESTIONS AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, CAN AI, THESE ARE LEGITIMATE, UH, WEBSITES. SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT LEGITIMATE WEBSITES, I THINK YOU CAN DEFINITELY USE AI AND FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU FIND A WEBSITE YOU COULD PUT THE LINK INTO AI AND ASK IF IT'S LEGIT OR REAL OR IF IT'S NOT A SCAM AND IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THE WEBSITE AND TELL YOU THAT I RECENTLY GOT SEDUCED INTO BUYING A PAIR OF SHOES. UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ADVERTISEMENT COMES RIGHT UP WITHOUT ASKING FOR IT. AND I FELL FOR IT AND ORDERED IT AND THEN THOUGHT AFTERWARDS TO ASK, ARE, IS THIS, FIRST OF ALL, IS THIS A REAL COMPANY? LIKE DID I JUST BLOW MY MONEY AND I'M NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING? OR, AND HOW? AND IT DID TELL ME THAT YES, IT'S A REAL COMPANY, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE ITEM. SO I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE I WENT AHEAD AND ORDERED THE SHOES. SO A WORD TO THE WISE, I THINK THAT'S, HOW ARE PEOPLE FEELING ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY GO IN AND ASK A QUESTION? IS EVERYONE PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT? JUST LOOK AT, JUST TYPE IN CHAT GBT.COM OR ARE THERE SOME OTHER, MY, MY FRIEND RECOMMENDS PERPLEXITY. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? WHY IS THAT BETTER OR NOT AS GOOD OR? SO A LOT OF THE AI MODELS HAVE DIFFERENT USES. SO PERPLEXITY FOR EXAMPLE, IS REALLY GOOD WITH SUMMARIZING AND LIKE ACCURATELY. UM, CHATE IS REALLY GOOD AT GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION. UM, THERE'S ANOTHER CLAUDE AI IS REALLY GOOD AT KIND OF BEING WITH YOU AND LIKE BEING A PARTNER ASSISTANT INSTEAD OF DOING THE WORK FOR YOU, WHICH I FIND REALLY HELPFUL, WHICH IS WHY I USE CLAUDE. I THINK YOU USE CLAUDE AS WELL. SPEAKING OF BEING A PARTNER, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY REFLECTION ON, UM, BECOMING FRIENDS WITH OR HAVING A ROMANTIC PARTNER IN, UM, CHAT GPT OR OTHER, UH, SOURCES OF AI? SO THE QUESTION WAS IF I WOULD EVER PLAN OR A THERAPIST, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HAVING AI AS YOUR THERAPIST? SO YEAH, I MEAN AI CAN DEFINITELY LIKE BE THERE WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T THINK I WOULD EVER TRUST AI TO BE MY REAL DOCTOR. LIKE DIAGNOSE ME WITH ANY LIKE, ISSUES THAT I MAY HAVE OR EVEN BE LIKE MY PARTNER FOR EXAMPLE. LIKE I JUST, WELL I PERSON. YEAH, IT'S NOT A REAL PERSON. IT'S NOT LIKE EXACTLY. YEAH. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S A REAL PERSON VERSUS AN AI VERSUS AN AI? UM, I DON'T, DO YOU CALL IT A BOT? I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS THERE TO KIND OF SEDUCE YOU AND MAKE YOU GIVE THEM THEIR MONEY OR YOUR MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE HOW DO YOU SAFEGUARD YOURSELF? SO THE QUESTION WAS HOW DO WE SAFEGUARD OURSELVES FROM LIKE FAKE AI BOTS TRYING TO PRETEND THEY'RE HUMANS OR OTHER WAY AROUND? SO I MEAN THAT'S DEFINITELY A GROWING ISSUE OF LIKE AI, LIKE TAKING PEOPLE'S VOICES AND PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE THEY'RE NOT. THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE A COMMON SCAM CALLED THE GRANDPARENT SCAM. YEAH, IT'S THE GRANDPARENT SCAM. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CAN TELL, LIKE IT CAN TAKE THE VOICE OF YOUR GRANDSON OR SON AND THEN IT'LL MAKE THAT INTO LIKE AN AI VOICE AND THEN IT CAN CALL YOU GUYS OR TEXT YOU GUYS BEING LIKE, HEY, I'VE BEEN LIKE KIDNAPPED OR SOMEBODY'S ROBBING ME. I NEED YOU TO SEND ME LIKE $500 RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S HARD TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A REAL PERSON OR NOT. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A GROWING ISSUE. YES. I THINK, I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL, RIGHT? AND, UM, I, I HAD, BUT IT IS QUITE AMAZING HOW PERSONAL THE AI CAN, I, I HAD A CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, UH, CUSTOMER SUPPORT, UM, RECENTLY AND THEY WERE SO HELPFUL AND SO FRIENDLY, LIKE PROBABLY BETTER THAN THE HUMAN YOU WOULD TALK TO. AND, AND SO I ASKED IT, I SAID, ARE, ARE YOU A PERSON OR NOT? UM, 'CAUSE THEY SAID HAVE A GOOD DAY. AND I SAID, WELL, I WOULD TELL YOU TO HAVE A GOOD DAY TOO, BUT ARE YOU A PERSON? AND THEY CAME BACK AND THEY SAID, NO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M A SOMETHING GENERATED, BUT IF I WERE A PERSON, I WOULD TELL YOU TO SUCH AND SUCH. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE, THEY, THEY'RE VERY PERSONAL. SO IT, [00:40:01] YOU CAN, I THINK YOU CAN SEE HOW PEOPLE DO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW, WITH A CHAT BOT EVEN. I MEAN THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE IN LOVE WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IT IS THAT THEY'VE FOUND THROUGH AI. SO IT'S REALLY VERY INTERESTING. UM, LET ME GET SOME MORE QUESTIONS HERE. ELLEN HARRISON, THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES ME IS HOW IMPOSSIBLE, HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO, UM, TELL IF A PHOTOGRAPH IS REAL OR NOT. AND COULD YOU SHOW US HOW EASY IT IS TO CREATE A FAKE PHOTOGRAPH? COULD YOU MAKE US A PICTURE OF, UH, RUDY GIULIANI HORSEBACK RIDING WITH BARACK OBAMA, SECOND, WHAT WAS THE FIRST NAME, SORRY. RUDY GIULIANI RUDOLPH, YORK CITY MAYOR GIULIANI, TS FIVE GI. IT'S REALLY, IT IS VERY WORRISOME BECAUSE I HAVE WATCHED, UM, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL THINGS LIKE ON YOUTUBE AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMENTS, SOMEONE WILL SAY, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY, I AI IT THIS AND THEN IF YOU, I, I LOOKED UP A STATEMENT THE PER THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS ALLEGED TO HAVE SAID, I SAID, DID DONALD TRUMP ACTUALLY SAY SUCH AND SUCH? AND IT SAID NO, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS EVER UTTERED THOSE WORDS. UM, BUT IT, IT MAKES IT LOOK VERY REAL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S DONALD TRUMP SAYING THOSE WORDS. SO YOU REALLY, IT'S VERY SCARY REALLY. LET'S SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE PICTURE. OKAY. SO AS I WAS SAYING BEFORE, LIKE WITH THE DIFFERENT PLANS FOR AI TO GENERATE IMAGES, YOU NEED TO LIKE GET ON THE PLAN. SO JUST GIMME LIKE ONE MINUTE AND I'LL SIGN INTO MY OTHER ACCOUNT, WHICH HASN'T WORKED. OKAY, LET'S SEE. DO MAYBE, DO YOU WANNA ASK A QUESTION OF OTHER SEARCHER? THOSE SEARCH ENGINE WAS FOR THE AI, I KNOW YOU HAVE GHAT BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE CLAUDE. YEAH, SO THE OTHER POSSIBLE AI IS THE ONE THAT I PREFER IS CLAUDE AI. C-L-A-U-D E.COM. YES. YEAH. DOT AI. DOT AI. YEAH. AND IT'S BY CLAU D.AI. WHAT ABOUT CHAT GB T? IS THAT CHAT GBT.COM? UH, YEAH CHAT GBT.COM YEAH. OKAY. AND I THINK PERPLEXITY IS PERPLEXITY.COM AND MOST OF THEM HAVE APPS OR YOU COULD JUST SEARCH IT UP ON GOOGLE OR SAFARI. IT'S LIKE AN ORANGE FLAT WITH A WHITE FLOWER. WELL I THINK HE JUST SAID AND GR GRONK OR GR YEAH, GOTTA DO IT IN YOUR, YEAH. ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT GRO OR B-R-A-D-E BRAVE? I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE HEARD OF THAT ONE. WE COULD SEARCH IT UP THOUGH. YES, YES. WHICH ONE DID YOU THINK? B-R-A-D-E OR B-R-A-I-D. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THAT ONE. HOLLY. SO FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T USED AI, DO YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS OF HOW THEY MIGHT START? YEAH, SO I WOULD START WITH UM, FIGURING OUT WHICH AI MODEL YOU WANT TO USE. 'CAUSE IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON YOUR PREFERENCE. UM, AND AS I SAID, CLAUDE WORKS MORE AS LIKE A COWORK COWORKER OR A PARTNER AND CHA IS KIND OF QUICK AND STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. UM, BUT ONCE YOU FIND OUT WHICH AI MODEL YOU WANT TO USE, THEN I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE YOU USE IT ETHICALLY AND KIND OF TAKE IT SLOWLY AND NOT JUST RUSH IN AND JUST TRUST IT FULLY BECAUSE IT IS REALLY SMART AND IT CAN LIKE TAKE ADVANTAGE OR I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO SAY I FOUND IT INCREDIBLY EASY TO USE. IF YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION, YOU CAN USE IT. YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW THE WEB, YOU NEED TO KNOW THE URL SO YOU GET TO IT. SO REALLY EASY AND IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. UM, POLLY AND I AND BETH AND A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON SETTING UP A A, AN EXPERIENCE IN THE FALL HAVING TO DO WITH HOUSING OPTIONS FOR SENIORS AND I THINK POLLY JUST ASKED, UM, PLEASE LIST IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY ALL THE SENIOR HOUSING OPTIONS AND IT CAME OUT WITH LIKE FOUR PAGES OF THESE ARE ALL THE CONTINUING CARE, UM, COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT TYPE, HOW MUCH THEY COST. THESE ARE ALL THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES LIST OF THEM, THESE ARE ALL THE ASSIST. IT JUST LIKE CRANKED IT OUT IN A FRACTION OF A MINUTE, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING IF YOU KNOW HOW TO ANS ASK A QUESTION, YOU CAN REALLY GET A LOT OF [00:45:01] INFORMATION. OF COURSE THERE COULD BE SOME MISTAKES ON THERE. SO BEFORE YOU PUT IT OUT, YOU PROBABLY WANNA CHECK OUT THE INFORMATION. WE DID ENTER THE PROMPT FOR YOUR AI IMAGE. IT'S GOING IN RIGHT NOW. GOOD. IN THE MEANTIME, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU ASK AI A QUESTION, DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, TO ALL YOUR INFORMATION? OH, THAT'S FUNNY. IS THAT AMAZING? THAT IS AMAZING. SO THERE YOU GO. WHO WOULD KNOW? THAT'S NOT A REAL PHOTO, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S QUITE AMAZING. OKAY HERE JOYCE, WAIT, SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? ASK A QUESTION. DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR CONTACTS AND ALL YOUR INFORMATION ON YOUR PHONE? THAT DEPENDS ON WHICH AI I AI YOU'RE USING AND HOW MUCH YOU LET IT UM, INTO YOUR LIKE GOOGLE IDENTITY. SO WITH I LOVE IT SHE HOW MUCH INFORMATION, WHEN YOU ASK A QUESTION, HOW MUCH INFORMATION DO THEY GET ABOUT YOU? YEAH. AND SO WITH CLAUDE YOU CAN ADD WHAT THEY CALL CONNECTORS WHERE YOU CAN CONNECT YOUR GOOGLE DRIVE, YOUR EMAIL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CONNECT TO IT. SO IT HAS THAT INFORMATION. BUT THAT IS KIND OF RISKY IN MY OPINION BECAUSE IT THEN HAS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. WHAT ABOUT CHATT? I DO YOU KNOW IF CHAT G BT OFFERS THAT? SO YES, IT CONNECTS TO GOOGLE CHATT. MY QUESTION IS, UM, IN THE PAST I HAVE, WHEN I THINK SOMETHING'S A RUMOR AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT, HAVE USED, I THINK IT'S CALLED SNOOPS DOT COMS SNOPES.COM, IS THAT STILL A RELIABLE SOURCE TO DETERMINE IF SOMETHING IS A RUMOR OR NOT? IS SO THIS WEBSITE HERE SNOPES, OKAY, SO YEAH, I MEAN AI IS DEFINITELY LIKE, IT'S HARD TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS AI OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, WELL NO, SHE'S ASKING IS IT SAFE TO, TO PUT INTO THIS TO UM CHECK IF IT'S LIKE FAKE NEWS? YEAH, IF YOU GET AN EMAIL ABOUT SOME OUTRAGEOUS STORY, UM, YOU, THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS USED TO DO EVEN BEFORE WE HEARD ALL ABOUT AI AS ASK SNOPES.COM IS THIS A REAL THING? AND THEY WOULD, YEAH, SO SNOPES IS PROBABLY ACCURATE. LIKE MOST AI DETECTORS CAN DEFINITELY TELL WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS GENERATED BY AI OR NOT. SO YEAH, WE PROBABLY HAVE TIME FOR JUST MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE QUESTIONS. YEAH, YOU'RE A GOOD QUESTION ASKER. GO AHEAD. YEAH. OKAY. I LOVE AI AND UH, IT CUTS DOWN MY READING. I DON'T HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE BOOK TO KNOW THE SUMMARY OF THE BOOK, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL. WHAT I'M AWARE, WORRIED ABOUT IS MY PERSONAL INFORMATION WHEN I GO ON AI AND I ASK AI SOMETHING THAT I NEED OR WHICH VACUUM CLEANER IS THE BEST. I DON'T WANT 10 COMPANIES CALLING ME AND TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE SELLING VACUUM CLEANERS. SO HOW SAFE MY, WHEN I ASK SOMEBODY A QUESTION, AI A QUESTION, HOW SAFE I AM NOT TO PUBLICIZE TO LET IT UH, LEAK INTO OTHER IDENTITIES. SO YEAH, THE QUESTION WAS HOW SAFE IT IS TO PUBLICIZE. LIKE IF YOU'RE ASKING AI A QUESTION ABOUT LIKE ANYTHING YOU MAY NEED, LIKE HOW SAFE IT IS TO ASK AI THAT. SO I MEAN ONCE YOU PUT IN YOUR EMAIL OR PHONE NUMBER INTO AN AI, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AND THEY'LL USUALLY CON LIKE KEEP CALLING YOU AND EMAILING YOU TO TRY TO GET THEIR PRODUCT. ONE WAY TO STOP THAT IS JUST BY LIKE BLOCKING THE EMAIL OR PHONE NUMBER FROM YOUR CONTACT FROM CALLING YOU. CAN YOU MOVE IT? YEAH, YEAH. SO IN LIKE IPHONE OR YOU CAN CLICK, LIKE YOU CAN GO INTO THE CONTACT AND THEN CLICK JUST LIKE BLOCK CONTACT AND THEN IT'LL PREVENT THAT CONTACT FROM CONTINUING TO REACH OUT TO YOU. AND THEN THE SAME IN EMAIL YOU CAN JUST UNSUBSCRIBE OR BLOCK ANOTHER EMAIL. YEP. OKAY. WE HAVE, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LIST GOING AROUND AND THIS IS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE, IN THE PROJECT WHICH INVOLVES A 45 TO 60 MINUTE PRIVATE LESSON. UM, SO WE REALLY HAVE TO THANK LEVY AND LUCA FOR BEING WILLING TO GIVE US ALL OF THAT TEACHING. I THINK IT'S QUITE AMAZING. IT'S OF GROUPS OF LIKE THREE TO EIGHT BUT IT IS WONDERFUL. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO PUT YOUR NAME ON THE LIST IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE PART OF A GROUP WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A LESSON ABOUT HOW TO USE AI. THERE'S A PRE AND POST SURVEY, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A MINIMAL INVESTMENT OF YOUR TIME [00:50:01] FOR THE RETURN OF GETTING THE PERSONALIZED INSTRUCTION. IT'S ALSO JUST UH, OVERALL TECHNOLOGY USE IN LIKE EVERYDAY LIFE ALSO WITH AI. YEAH. IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS UM, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO LEARN, I, I SAW CANVA UP THERE, WHICH IS AN ART TOOL TO MAKE POSTERS OR CARDS OR SOMETHING THAT'S OF INTEREST TO ME. SO, UH, ANY CLOSING COMMENT? ANY FINAL BURNING QUESTION? LORI, WHAT ARE YOUR LIKE, SO FOR ALL OF US ADULTS, LIKE WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TOP TWO OR THREE THINGS WE COULD USE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TOP TWO OR THREE THINGS WE COULD USE AI FOR IF YOU'RE AN ADULT AND YOU'RE NOT WRITING PAPERS ANYMORE? SO THE QUESTION WAS WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TOP THINGS YOU CAN USE AI FOR? IN MY OPINION, ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE GROWING OR LIKE OLDER ADULTS LIKE HEALTHCARE, THAT'S DEFINITELY LIKE ONE OF THE LARGEST THINGS WE SEE WITH PEOPLE. WE HELP WITH TECHNOLOGY. LIKE A LOT OF THEM HAVE AI LIKE EITHER LIKE ORGANIZE THEIR MEDICAL DOCUMENTS INTO LIKE ONE FILE OR LIKE IF THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THEY CAN ASK AI AND IT'S USUALLY VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT. SO THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE THE NUMBER ONE FOR ESPECIALLY LIKE OLDER ADULTS LIKE THAT. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THAT CAN BE VERY USEFUL SO THAT YOU GO INTO YOUR DOCTOR AS AN INFORMED CONSUMER OF HEALTHCARE. I HAVE SEEN A SIGN THAT SAYS DO NOT EQUATE YOUR AI WITH MY MEDICAL DEGREE . SO YOU KNOW, YOU, WE REALLY HAVE TO UM, BE A LITTLE BIT CAUTIOUS. UM, BUT CERTAINLY EDUCATING YOURSELF SO THAT YOU CAN ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO GUIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR VISIT, IT CAN BE VERY USEFUL. EXACTLY. YEAH. ANY, ANY LAST QUESTION? ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO GENERATE WITH AI BEFORE WE GO? I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER ANY OF THESE COMPANIES ARE THWARTING THE MISINFORMATION THAT'S COMING OUT. YOU MEAN ARE THEY TRYING TO CORRECT MISINFORMATION THAT COMES OUT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO AS OF IF THE, SO THE QUESTION WAS IF THE COMPANIES THAT HAVE AI ARE TRYING TO CORRECT MISINFORMATION, UM, I'M NOT, I MEAN I KNOW THAT CLAUDE CAN DO THAT WITH THEIR AI, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE OTHER AI PROGRAMS. BUT YEAH, I MEAN I THINK SOME OF THE PROGRAMS ARE GETTING FEEDBACK. FOR INSTANCE, IN THE AREA OF MENTAL HEALTH THERE'S BEEN REAL CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE IDEA THAT THE, THAT THE AI CHAT BOT LIKES YOU AND THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK YOU WANNA HEAR AND YOU KNOW, THERE'VE BEEN SOME VERY UNFORTUNATE THINGS ABOUT KIDS SEEKING INFORMATION ABOUT HOW DO YOU, YOU KNOW, HARM YOURSELF. UM, AND THEN THEY WERE LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT LIKES YOU, IT'LL TELL THE PERSON, WELL HERE'S WHAT YOU DO. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THERE'S CONTINUING DEVELOPMENT TO TRY TO PUT IN GUARDRAILS, UM, WHERE THE AI DOESN'T JUST FEED BACK TO YOU WHAT THEY THINK YOU WANNA HEAR, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE CORRECT INFORMATION. SO IT'S CERTAINLY IN A STATE OF DEVELOPMENT I THINK WE HAVE TO SAY IT'S NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT. YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY GROWING. AND ACTUALLY ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THAT CLAUDE JUST RELEASED A, OR CLAUDE JUST CREATED A NEW AI THAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE GOING TO RELEASE BUT THEN FOUND OUT THAT IT COULD HACK DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND IT WAS TOO STRONG TO RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC. SO THEY ACTUALLY LIKE SAFEGUARDED IT AND ARE KEEPING IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WELL I THINK THIS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE AND USEFUL AND INSPIRATIONAL. SO I WANNA THANK LEVY AND LUCA AND LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF SUBJECTS FOR YOUR RESEARCH, SO WE WISH YOU A LOT OF GOOD LUCK WITH THAT AND REALLY THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR COMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING GUYS. YEAH, WE HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU GUYS AT OUR PROJECT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.