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WE GOTTA GET A GPS DART ON THAT GUY.[ I. ROLL CALL]
WELCOME TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF MAY 21ST, 2026.
UM, UH, MARY ELLEN, WILL YOU DO ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIR PERSON.
BOARD MEMBER RICHARD BASS HERE.
BOARD MEMBER DANIEL BERKOVITZ.
VILLAGE ATTORNEY LINDA WHITEHEAD.
CAROL BUILDING INSPECTOR CHARLES MOZZI HERE.
WELL, UM, AS YOU ALL MAY HAVE NOTICED, WE HAVE A NEW PLANNING BOARD MEMBER
SO, UM, LISA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE AND STEPPING UP TO BE ON OUR PLANNING BOARD.
UM, WE WELCOME YOU AND WE'D LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND AND WHY YOU KEEP IT BUSINESS.
UM, I, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE, UM, TODAY AT LEAST RICHARD, IS HE? SOUND IT DANIEL.
UM, SO YEAH, IT WAS A GOOD FIT FOR MY FAMILY.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
I FEEL LIKE I COULD BE AN AMBASSADOR FOR HASTINGS, UM, IN MOST RESPECTS AND MY FAMILY.
AND I REALLY ENJOYED BEING HERE.
UM, I'M AN ARCHITECT, UM, BY TRAINING.
PRIMARILY MORE IN MANAGEMENT, UM, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, GETTING INTO THAT ERA.
BUT, UM, I HAVE A, I THINK AN INVESTMENT IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT HERE.
UM, THE IMPACTS THAT THAT HAS, UM, ON THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY IN ALL ASPECTS.
AND SO I THINK JUST LIKE LIFE NOT PLANNING, WHICH THE WAY IT ROLLS, LIKE I JUST GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS REALLY READY FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND THEN I GOT YOUR EMAIL, UM, AND I PUT MY APPLICATION IN FOR SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK QUITE A BIT AGO.
SO, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, ACTUALLY.
UM, AND JUST SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, HASTINGS MAINTAINING ITS UNIQUE CHARACTER AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVING IN ALL THE RIGHT WAYS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY PERSONAL WORK OR WHATEVER ELSE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
BUT I WON'T KEEP BUSINESS HELD UP FOR THAT, SO, BUT YEAH, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
SO
[II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UM, WE HAVE ONE SET OF OLD MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 18TH, 2025, WHICH I BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SEPTEMBER.
OH, ON THE, THE AGENDA THAT SAID DECEMBER.
UM, IN ANY CASE, WAS IT? I THINK YEAH, IT IS SEPTEMBER.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SET THAT KEEPS NEVER GETTING APPROVED.
SEPTEMBER IS OUR, OUR PROBLEM.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT CONSTELLATION TODAY EITHER.
BUT WE DO HAVE MINUTES FROM THE R APRIL 16TH BOARD MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE WE HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS HERE.
SO DOES ANYONE WHO WAS AT THAT MEETING HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? I DIDN'T.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SO MOVED.
RICHARD, WHO SECONDS IT SECOND.
UH, OKAY, PATRICK AND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WELL, LISA, I THINK YOU HAVE TO, I YEAH, YOU'LL ABSTAIN, BUT, UM, OKAY, GREAT.
[ III. OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS]
I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT WE HAVE THREE OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH ARE ALL DEFERRED BY THE APPLICANTS.SO YOU'LL SEE THEM ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THEM THIS EVENING.
[ IV. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS]
NEW PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THIS EVENING.AND THAT'S THE AMENDMENT TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO CREATE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE SECOND FLOOR WITH ONE COMMERCIAL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5 66 AND 5 68 WAR BURTON AVENUE.
SAID PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE CC ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.30 DASH 24 DASH 26 AND 27 ON THE VILLAGE TAP TAX MAPS.
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BEFORE THE APPLICANT, UM, PRESENTS THE CURRENT PLAN.I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE ON THE BOARD AND THOSE WATCHING THAT, UM, THIS, UH, A DIFFERENT VERSION OF THE SITE PLAN CAME BEFORE US.
UM, IT WAS A PROPOSAL FOR, UM, CONVERTING THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE TO PARTIALLY TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND LIVE WORK USE.
UM, I WILL SAY, AS I RECALL, WE DID, WE DID GRANT VIEW PRESERVATION APPROVAL FOR THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE REVIEWING AGAIN THIS EVENING.
UM, AS I RECALL, WE, WE HAD MANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIVE WORKSPACE BEING ON THE, UH, GROUND FLOOR IN THE CENTER OF OUR DOWNTOWN.
UM, WE, WE PROVIDED THAT FEEDBACK OVER SEVERAL MEETINGS AND, UM, I BELIEVE IT NEVER MOVED FORWARD IN THAT, UM, FASHION.
SO I'M VERY PLEASED THAT THIS EVENING WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VERSION, UM, OR DIFFERENT SITE PLAN, UM, APPLICATION BEFORE US.
UM, AND WE'LL, BEFORE I PUT MORE COMMENTS ON IT, I'LL, I'LL, UM, INVITE THE, THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THE CURRENT PLAN.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY JUST HEADLINE IS, UM, I THINK THE APPLICANT HEARD US ON OUR CONCERNS FROM THE LAST VERSION.
SO WITH THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE? I THAT'S PLAN.
WAITING TO SEE IF WE BLEW IT UP HERE.
UM, JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, THE, THIS PROJECT DID RECEIVE A FEW PRESERVATION WAIVER AS DID THE LAST ONE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THAT WAS THE PART THAT, 'CAUSE THERE'S A REFERENCE.
I WILL SAY, UM, THE COVER LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED WAS A BIT CONFUSING 'CAUSE IT SAID A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY WE NEVER APPROVED THE SITE, THE SITE PLAN OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, APPLICATION.
BUT WE DID, WE DID APPROVE VIEW PRESERVATION.
UM, I, I THINK WE DID RECEIVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND WE WERE, WE WERE WORKING TOWARD THE BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS, WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS A NEW APPLICATION THOUGH.
WE MADE THEM REDESIGN IT SIGNIFICANTLY.
THEY DID GET SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
THEY HAD CHANGED IT TO, IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE A COMMUNITY WORKSPACE IN THE FRONT INSTEAD.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT'S GONE.
UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, I, I WILL POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCES FROM THE LAST PROPOSAL.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE NOT JUST WHILE THAT'S BEING PULLED UP, IS IT FOR US RIGHT NOW FOR SITE PLAN AND VIEW PRESERVATION OR JUST SITE PLAN? JUST SITE PLAN.
UNLESS IT'S FOUR WAS ABLE TO POP UP BEFORE.
ONE MOMENT THAT'S GONNA NEED TO GO READ THROUGH SECRET.
PROJECTS COMING THROUGH SHOULD TALK.
IS THAT ME V HB RIGHT NOW? MM-HMM
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING ON MY LAPTOP.
ONE OF MY CLIENTS ACTUALLY HIRED VHB AND TOOK YOU GUYS ON.
YEAH, THAT'S NER I KNOW THAT'S NOT UP ON THIS ONE.
WE GOT OUR, THAT'S MY DESIGN DISCOVER COMMENTS FROM JARED FROM, I THINK, YEAH, THAT'S MY SCREENSAVER, RIGHT? IS THAT YOUR SCREENSAVER? I GUESS, BUT IT DOESN'T
I MEAN, IS IT FRIENDS ARCHITECTS? OBJECTIONS? OH, IT IS.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN, BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING CHEESE KICKED TONIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU HAVE TO EAT DAIRY.
YOU DON'T HAVE, SAY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AN IT BACKGROUND.
I JUST, THE DISPLAY SETTINGS ON THE TWO MONITORS OR SOMETHING.
IT SOMEHOW THINK IT'S, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER.
EVERYBODY HERE WAS LIKE THIS, IT ACTUALLY REALLY COOL ANYWAY.
WE HAVE A, WE WE LIKE, WE HAVE A BACKUP AND WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT IT GONNA BE LIKE OPEN.
WE'RE GONNA SWITCH AS LIKE A WE SITUATION.
BECAUSE I DO NOT REMEMBER THE SITUATION IN THIS CASE.
IT BE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AGING THOUGH.
THIS IS, IS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU LEAVE A I DO
UM, IT'S CALLED MASON WITH TWO LAPTOPS, ALL GOVERNMENT WORK.
SO, UM, MY NAME IS SUZANNE LEVINE.
I'M A PROJECT ARCHITECT WITH CGS STUDIO.
I'M HERE WITH ARCHITECT CHRISTINA GRIFFIN.
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REPRESENTING OUR CLIENT, KAREN YOUNG.SHE'S THE NEW OWNER OF 5 66 5 68 WAR BURTON AVENUE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY SHE COULD NOT JOIN US THIS EVENING.
SHE HAD SOME FAMILY COMMITMENTS, UM, BUT SHE, UH, WANTED US TO CONVEY HER VISION FOR THE BUILDING AS SHE'S TAKEN OVER AS THE NEW OWNER.
AND, UM, HER GOAL FOR THIS BUILDING IS TO, UM, UH, USE THE FIRST FLOOR SPACE AS, UH, COMMERCIAL SPACE, THE ENTIRE SPACE FOR HER BUSINESS.
AND IT'S, SO SHE OWNS A, UM, A FIBER ARTS, UH, CENTER, UM, THAT, THAT HAS, UM, SPINNING CLASSES, KNITTING CLASSES.
IT'S ALSO GONNA HAVE A RETAIL COMPONENT.
UM, AND, UM, THAT IS THE ONE MAJOR CHANGE FROM OUR, WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU LAST YEAR, WE, IT THIS, THIS BUILDING, RIGHT, IS THE FORMERLY THE OFFICES OF PETER GIULIA, UH, ASSOCIATES.
UM, IT WAS ALL COMMERCIAL FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.
UM, OUR LAST PROPOSAL HAD, UM, HAD FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH A SHARED LIVE WORK SPACE, FRONTING, FRONTING BOARD, UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS APPROVED.
WE ARE NOW COMING BACK TO YOU, UH, WITH A COMMERCIAL SPACE AT THE FIRST FLOOR AND TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, WE ARE ALSO, UH, KEEPING, UH, UH, WHAT WE HAD IN THE OLD PROPOSAL WAS A, UM, A NEW STAIR BULKHEAD TO THE ROOF TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THIS BUILDING.
UH, THAT HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL.
THE SIZE OF THE BULKHEAD, THE LOCATION OF THE BULKHEAD AND THE SIZE OF THE ROOF DECK HAS NOT, HAS NOT CHANGED.
UM, AND THE ONLY, UH, THE OTHER CHANGE FROM OUR PAST PROPOSAL, I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS NOW, IS JUST SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT, IS WE ARE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE ENTRY TO THE BUILDING INTO A SINGLE ENTRY, UM, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, TO UNIFY THE, THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL.
AND, UM, WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO MAKE IT A MORE ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE.
CURRENTLY IT'S ABOUT AN EIGHT AND THREE QUARTER INCH STEP UP.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO BRING THAT, BRING THAT DOWN AND RAMP THE ENTRY, UM, UH, TO MAKE THE SPACE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR, FOR THE, UM, THE CUSTOMERS.
THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE WITH THE TWO, THE TWO SEPARATE ENTRANCES.
AND THAT IS, UM, WE ARE, WE, IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS, WE'RE RETAINING THE, THE FACADE.
WE'RE REPLACING ALL THE WINDOWS EXCEPT THE STOREFRONT WINDOWS WILL REMAIN.
AND WE WILL PROBABLY DO AN UPGRADE TO THE, TO THE, UM, TO THE FRONT FACADE WITH, UM, COLORS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BRING THAT TO THE, TO THE AIRBNB SIGNAGE.
UH, SOME FEW MORE PICTURES OF, UH, UH, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE, UM, TRY AND GET THE MOUSE HERE.
UM,
UM, IN THE, IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THERE IS SOME OUTDOOR SPACE THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO, YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER RIGHT, WE'RE PLANNING TO CLEAN UP, UM, AND HAVE A OUTDOOR SITTING PATIO, SITTING AREA WITH, UM, UH, AND WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A STORM WATER PLANTER TO HELP, TO HELP MANAGE THE WATER IN THE BACK THERE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE STREETSCAPE.
YOU CAN SEE THE TWO, THE TWO BUILDINGS, UM, RIGHT AROUND SPRING AND WARTON.
THIS IS LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT COMPUTER HERE.
KNOW, THE MASS IS NOT WORKING, UNFORTUNATELY.
I GOTTA TELL YOU, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT THAT'S, DOES THAT WORK? IT'S VERY, I KNOW.
UH, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING WILL REMAIN.
UM, THIS IS THAT BACKYARD AREA THAT, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
THIS IS A VERY SHEER WALL, UM, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, DROPS DOWN FROM WHITMAN STREET ABOVE.
UH, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED STORM WATER PLANTER TO, TO MANAGE THE WATER IN THE BACKYARD AREA.
UH, TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF BURDEN OFF OF THE VILLAGE'S, UM, STORMWATER SYSTEM.
UM, UH, IT WAS NOT REQUIRED, UH, AS PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, WE ARE OFFERING TO HELP, TO HELP MITIGATE THE WATER SITUATION IN DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND, UM, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED ROOF DECK AND OUR PROPOSED BULKHEAD.
AND IT, THE, UH, THE SIZE AND LOCATION HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST, OUR LAST SUBMISSION TO THE BOARD.
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IS COMPLIANT IN ALL RESPECTS EXCEPT PARKING.UM, THE, UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE TWO UNITS IS 3.5 OR FOUR SPACES.
UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.
UM, GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE, UH, AS WELL.
WE, UM, UH, DTS PROVIDENCE, UM, DESIGN ENGINEERS DID A PARKING STUDY, WHICH WE SUBMITTED TO YOU, UH, AND SHOWED THAT THE, UM, THE, THE, THE PARKING BURDEN THAT THIS, OUR PROPOSED SCHEME WOULD NOT, UM, ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PARKING DEMAND IN THE DOWNTOWN.
UM, IN FACT, UH, THEIR CALCULATION SHOWED IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE CURRENT USE.
UM, FOR JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER THERE, THIS BOARD IS NOT ISSUING A WAIVER FOR PARKING DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE, THE PROPOSED USE IS, REQUIRES LESS PARKING THAN THE PREVIOUS USE.
IT DOESN'T NEED A, IT WON'T NEED A VARIANCE.
UM, SO YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY ISSUING A WAIVER.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE IN HASTINGS.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS, UH, A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE, USING THE, HAVING THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE IN THE DOWNTOWN.
WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO METRO NORTH AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, WE FEEL IT'S A, A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A BUILDING WITHOUT ONSITE PARKING.
UM, AND, AND SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S POINT, YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE A FINDING WITH RESPECT TO THE ADEQUACY OF THE PARKING OF THE SITE.
IT'S NOT A WAIVER PER SE, BUT YOU, YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
AND, UM, UM, AS, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED THAT IT IS IN A VIEW PRESERVATION DISTRICT, WE PROVIDED OUR VIEW STUDIES AND WE, WE DID RECEIVE A WAIVER FOR VIEW PRESERVATION BASED ON THOSE VIEW STUDIES.
UM, THIS IS OUR FIRST FLOOR PLAN.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, UH, THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE UTILIZED FOR, UM, RETAIL AND, UH, WORKSHOP SPACE.
UM, WE, WE, UM, HAVE CREATED A CENTRAL LOBBY.
ONE, ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WE MADE FROM THE, FROM THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION, WE HAD AN ELEVATOR IN THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION.
UM, HERE WE JUST HAVE, UM, A, A, A COMMON STAIR GOING UP TO THE TWO UNITS ABOVE AND TO THE ROOF DECK.
UM, BUT WE'VE, WE HAVE THE CENTRAL LOBBY, UM, WITH A, WITH A MORE ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE.
AND, UM, AND OFF THE LOBBY WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL SPACE ON BOTH SIDES.
THERE'S AN EXISTING STEP UP IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF ROCK BELOW, UM, THAT WE, UH, HAVE TO WORK WITH.
BUT WE'VE CREATED, UM, RAMP ACCESS, UH, SO, SO THAT THE, UM, ENTIRE SPACE IS ACCESSIBLE, UM, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND IN THE BACK WE HAVE OUR TERRACE AREA.
THERE'S AN EXISTING WASTE AREA BACK HERE, UM, UH, WHICH THIS ALLEY IS SHARED, UH, WITH THE ADJACENT BUILDING.
AND SO THIS IS HOW THE, UM, UH, THE SANITATION WORKERS COME DOWN AND, AND, AND GET THE WASTE AND COME DOWN THIS ALLEY.
SO WE'RE RETAINING THAT, THAT, UM, THAT SPACE FOR THE WASTE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, THESE ARE OUR TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THEY'RE ABOUT 1200 QUA SQUARE FEET EACH, UM, TWO BEDROOM, UH, TWO BATH.
AND THEY COME UP THE ESSENTIAL STAIR.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE A SHARED ENTRY.
THE STAIR CONTINUES ABOVE, UH, UP TO OUR ROOF.
AND THIS IS OUR ROOF DECK SPACE.
UM, THE SIZE HAS REMAINED THE SAME.
WE DID TAKE PARTITIONS OUT BEFORE.
WE HAD PRIVATE ROOF DECKS FOR EACH OF THE FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
NOW WE WANNA KEEP IT FLEXIBLE AND WE'VE KEPT IT AS OPEN SPACE.
UM, UH, THIS IS REALLY FOR PRIMARY, PRIMARILY CONTROLLED USE BY THE OWNER.
UM, YOU KNOW, SHE WILL BE THE ONE WHO'S, UM, UH, WHO PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE ROOF DECKS, UM, EITHER FOR WORK, IT COULD BE FOR WORKSHOPS, IT COULD BE FOR KNITTING CIRCLES.
IT'S, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ROOF DECK FOR SAFETY.
BUT WE'VE, WE'VE RETAINED, YOU KNOW, ALL OUR, UM, OUR NOTES ABOUT SAFETY ISSUES WITH, UH, UMBRELLAS AND HURRICANE PROOF, UH, FURNITURE AND MAKING SURE THEIR UMBRELLAS ARE, ARE DOWN.
UH, THERE WILL BE NO, UM, BARBECUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN, THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF IT.
I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN BY SOME, UH, LETTERS WE RECEIVED FROM NEIGHBORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I JUST WOULD SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS, THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF, OF ROOF DECKS IN THE DOWNTOWN.
UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE POSED ANY ISSUES WITH NOISE.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ROOF DECKS INVITE NOISE MORE THAN SAY A PORCH OR A, OR ANY KIND OF OUTDOOR SPACE.
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SO I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE TRANSITION MORE TO HAVING RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN OUR DOWNTOWN, WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY START TO RETHINK HOW WE CAN USE THAT ROOF SPACE FOR OUTDOOR SPACE BECAUSE IT'S, UM, REALLY AT A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE PEOPLE, UH, WHO LIVE IN, IN THE DOWNTOWN.THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HASN'T RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ANY OF OUR BUILDINGS WITH ROOFTOP DECKS.
BUT SUZANNE, CAN YOU CLARIFY? YOU SAID THE COMMERCIAL USE MAY UTILIZE THAT SPACE AS WELL? UM, YES.
AND THE, THERE, THERE ARE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH, WITH KAREN YOUNG, SHE SAYS SHE WASN'T, SHE, SHE HAS NOT DECIDED YET WHETHER THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL HAVE UNRESTRICTED ACCESS TO THOSE ROOF DECKS.
SO SHE, SHE SAYS SHE WOULD BE THE ONE AT THIS MOMENT, THIS IS HER THOUGHT THAT SHE WOULD BE THE ONE, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CONTROL THE ACCESS TO THE ROOF DECK.
AND I THINK, I THINK SHE IS MOSTLY, EVEN THE RESIDENTIAL SPACES, SHE'S THINKING OF THOSE SPACES, UM, POSSIBLY COULD BE USED FOR VISITING ARTISTS, VISITING INSTRUCTORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, HER PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THIS BUILDING IS, IS THE BUSINESS, IS THE, IS IS THE PEOPLE USING THE BUSINESS, PERHAPS USING THE ROOF DECK? OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO OUR, UH, FRONT ELEVATION.
UM, UH, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED MODIFICATION TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO TIE IT IN WITH THE EXISTING, UH, RENOVATION OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH CREATED THESE BEAUTIFUL STOREFRONT WINDOWS AND, UM, AND TRANSOM DIVIDED LIGHT TRANSOMS AND PANELS.
UM, AND WE FEEL, UM, WE FEEL THAT, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE TO THIS BUILDING, WE'VE KEPT THE VERY STRONG SYMMETRY OF THE ENTRANCE.
UM, AND, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING TO, TO, UM, PRESERVE THE LOOK OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND, AND, AND PERHAPS EVEN IMPROVE IT.
UH, THIS IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE REPLACING WINDOWS WITH WINDOWS AND, AND DOORS, UH, IN THE SAME MASON RADIO OPENINGS.
WE'RE ADDING SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHT TO THE WINDOWS JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CHARACTER.
UH, THIS IS OUR, OUR, THE BACK OF THE BULKHEAD, THE STANDING SEAM ROOF SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS THE ALLEY THAT LEADS DOWN, UM, TO THE, UM, TO THAT WASTE AREA WE DISCUSSED.
AND THIS IS THE, THAT STEEP AREA, THAT STEEP SLOPE THAT LEADS UP TO WHITMAN, AGAIN, JUST REPLACING WINDOWS.
THIS IS THE SIDE OF OUR BULKHEAD, UH, WHICH WE'VE, UM, DESIGNED TO BE AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE JUST TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE ROOF.
SO WHERE'S THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT GOING? WE HAVE AN AREA, UM, WE HAVE AN AREA IN THE, IN THE BACK OF THE ROOF, ROOF DECKS WHERE, AND I'LL, I'LL TAKE YOU TO THE PLAN WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE AN ENCLOSURE, UM, CONCEALING FOR, WE'RE SHOWING FOUR AIR CONDENSERS, UM, PLAN'S THE SAME AS IT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS PLAN.
WE MAY, AND JUST IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO YOUR PREVIOUS PLAN, I, UM, THE BULKHEAD IS WELL BELOW THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WELL, I, I THINK, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE TOP OF OUR BULKHEAD IS 33.
AND, UH, OUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40.
SO THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS TO WHY THIS, WELL, THERE, THE VIEW PRESERVATION STUDIES ALSO SHOW THERE'S REALLY NO IMPACT ON THE VIEWS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY OUR BUTTE PRESERVATION.
THE ELEVATION OF THE HOME ABOVE THERE IS ABOVE THAT ROOF ELEVATION TO BEGIN WITH.
THESE ARE, THIS IS AN EXISTING VIEW OF THE ROOFS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, THOSE ROOFS ARE, UH, THEY'RE REALLY JUST UTILITY SPACES.
THEY HAVE AIR CONDENSERS, THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, EXHAUST PIPES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ATTRACTIVE SPACES.
UM, AND THEN THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE HOMES UP IN, ON, ON WHITMAN.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UM, WHITMAN STREET AND OUR, AND OUR SITE, YOU, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WELL BELOW THEIR, UM, THEIR SITE LINES, UM, OVER THE, OVER THE BULKHEAD.
UM, THESE ARE OUR VIEW STUDIES AGAIN.
UM, WE, WE TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS FROM 33 WHITMAN AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE RESIDENCES UP THERE.
BUT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND IS JUST TO REPLACE ALL THE UTILITIES UP HERE AND, AND CREATE A REALLY ATTRACTIVE SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE USED FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST PASSIVE ENJOYMENT.
UM, THIS IS UP FROM THE THIRD FLOOR.
UM, THESE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF ROOF DECKS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
UM, THIS IS 400 WARBURG, ONE OF OUR PROJECTS OVER NEAR ANTOINETTE'S.
UM, UH, WHICH WE'VE INCORPORATED ROOF DECKS ON
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THAT ARE FRONTING THE STREET.THERE ARE, THERE ARE ROOF DECKS, FRONTING MAIN STREET, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ROOF DECK AREAS, UM, TERRACE AREAS IN THE BACK.
BUT THESE DO FRONT MAIN STREET.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY OUR IDEA OF MATERIALS, GLASS RAILING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WOOD COLORED PORCELAIN.
UM, AND, AND JUST, UH, TO CREATE A REALLY ATTRACTIVE SPACE UP ON THAT ROOF THAT WE, WE SUBMITTED SOME DETAILS FOR THE FENCING.
THEY'RE THE, UM, THE WASTE ENCLOSURE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH DTS PROVIDENT.
THEY, THEY DEVELOPED THE DETAIL FOR THE STORMWATER PLANTER, UM, WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY THINK COULD BE VERY ATTRACTIVE WITH THE PLANTINGS BACK IN THE TERRACE, UH, IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, UH, STORMWATER PLANTER DETAIL.
AND WE WORKED WITH A, UM, IQ, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS TO DO THE PLANTING PLAN IN THE BACK.
WELL, I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WE INVITE THE PUBLIC, IF THERE'S ANYONE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, BUT LET'S START WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UM, THIS PLAN IS BETTER THAN THE LAST ONE,
THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THIS IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS THAT SHE RUNS ELSEWHERE? YEAH.
UM, SHE, IT'S, IT'S CALLED ONCE UPON A SPINDLE, AND IT IS, UM, SHE'S IN, IT'S AN EXISTING BUSINESS THAT SHE, SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH.
UM, ANOTHER, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNDER THE SAME NAME, BUT, UH, IN NEW JERSEY, SHE'S, SHE'S KIND OF PART OF THIS FIBER ARTS COMMUNITY AND SHE'S PART OF THE WORKSHOPS AND CLASSES THERE.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME BUSINESS OR IF SHE'S SPINNING OFF.
WE NEED, WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
AND I KNOW OUR BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE OF INFLATION, SO I WAS CURIOUS IF IT WAS A TESTED MODEL, BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANT TO THIS.
I MEAN, I LOVED THE WHOLE IDEA FROM YOUR LETTER AND THEN THIS IS GREAT.
DO YOU KNOW, IS THERE, UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF A PRECEDENT IN THE VILLAGE FOR A ROOF DECK BEING USED FOR A COMMERCIAL, UM, ACTIVITY LIKE YOU DESCRIBED? NO, I DON'T.
UM, I THINK WE WERE, THERE WAS, THAT WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING 5 5, 5 WAR BURTON THE PRIOR, MANY YEARS AGO, WE WERE GONNA HAVE A ROOF THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE A RESTAURANT AT THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE ROOF DECK WAS GONNA BE, YEAH.
THE PRIOR, PRIOR APPROVAL ACTUALLY HAD AN APPROVED ROOF DECK FOR THE RESTAURANT FOR RE I DO REMEMBER APPROVING THAT
I KNEW YOU WELL, I REMEMBER THAT.
BUT I THINK DAVID, THAT'S A FAIR POINT.
SO THE ROOF TECH, THAT WAS A RESTAURANT.
YOU KNEW THE INTENSITY OF IT WAS BASED ON THE TABLES AND CHAIRS.
SO 40 PEOPLE ARE UP THERE ON SPINNING WHEELS.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET THOSE UP.
WORRY ABOUT BEING FACETIOUS, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF THAT AND IF THERE'S ANY NECESSITY FOR YOU TO REGULATE ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ON THE ROOF, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OR ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH THEIR ACTIVITY WOULD BE WITH THE COMMERCIAL USE VERSUS WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED IF IT WAS JUST FOR RESIDENTIAL USE? I MEAN, THE ROOF HAS A SPECIFIC OCCUPANCY, UM, THAT WE CAN CALCULATE AND, AND GET TO YOU BASED ON, UM, BASED ON THE CODE.
AND WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OCCUPANCY WON'T GO OVER THAT.
UM, YEAH, AND I'M, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT IS.
I THINK, UM, I I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY UNDER 50 BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE, IT'S UNDER 50.
SO THAT WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP THE OCCUPANCY UNDER 50 PEOPLE.
I THINK WE WOULD, IN ANY RESPECT, WE WOULD'VE SOME SENSE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD BE UP THERE.
BUT IF THE BUSINESS IS OPEN, I THINK IT WAS ONE TO FIVE TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, OF COURSE IT WOULDN'T BE 12 MONTHS A YEAR.
BUT IS THIS GONNA BE EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER OR THREE DAYS A WEEK? AND, YOU KNOW, I I JUST, I'M JUST THINKING FROM A NEIGHBOR'S PERSPECTIVE, IS, IS THIS GONNA BE A MULTIPLE OF, YOU KNOW, MORE ACTIVITY OR USE THAN WHAT YOU'D EXPECT IF IT WAS JUST A RESIDENTIAL USE? EXCEPT IT WON'T BE AT NIGHT, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF A DISTURBANCE.
NO, IT'S, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT.
I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT'S MY IMPRESSION, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK IT IS, IT IS UNKNOWN HOW THAT SPACE IS GONNA BE USED.
UM, I THINK THE OWNER, KAREN, UM, YOUNG, SHE, SHE LIKED THE IDEA OF, UM, OF HAVING THE OUTDOOR SPACE UP THERE.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT SHE DESCRIBED FROM THE WORKSHOPS, UH, THEY REQUIRE CERTAIN, YES, THEY REQUIRE SPINNING WHEELS, YOU KNOW, THEY REQUIRE TABLES, THEY REQUIRE, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE KNITTING CIRCLES CAN GO UP THERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE MORE FIBER, UM, FIBER ARTS THAT SHE CARRIES THERE REALLY NEED TO BE IN A WORKSHOP ENVIRONMENT.
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UM, SO I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.BUT IF THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE US TO TRY AND DEVELOP MORE SPECIFICS OF THE USE, WE CAN, OR YEAH.
OR YOU COULD, WE COULD DO IT ONE ON THAT WAY OR THE OTHER WAY, WHICH IS NO AMPLIFIED SPEAKERS ON THE ROOF DURING, LIKE, WE COULD THINK OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE OPPRESSIVE, LIGHTING UNDER A CERTAIN LEVEL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OR YOU CAN TELL US THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WOULD DO ON THE ROOF, WHICH WOULD BE IMPOSED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO EITHER WAY, I KNOW IT'S, WE'RE MAKING IT UP BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO.
BUT YEAH, I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY, AND MAYBE, UM, I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW, MAYBE THE BUSINESS WILL CHANGE OR MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE WILL.
YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE, LIKE WE DID WITH THE, WITH THE, THE FURNITURE AND THE UMBRELLAS AND THE BARBECUES, I MEAN, MAYBE THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REGULATE THE SPACE, WHETHER IT'S BEING USED BY A COMMERCIAL, UH, ENTERPRISE OR BY RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL.
RESIDE, BE ABLE IDENTIFY WHAT YOU THINK IS A CONCERN AND THEY MUST LIVE WITH IT.
AMPLIFI SOUND IS ONE EXAMPLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS HAS TO GO TO A RB AFTER THE HEARING AND COME BACK WITH FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A MORE, A BETTER LAID OUT PLAN OF THE ROOFTOP USE WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH FINAL SITE LINE APPROVAL IF IT MAKES IT THAT LONG.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.
IT, SINCE THAT ADDED STEP IS IN THE PROCESS, YOU MIGHT AS WELL COME BACK WITH THE OWNER'S THOUGHTS ABOUT THE USE.
AND YEAH, AND WE CAN ALSO DO SOME THINKING ABOUT, I THINK SOUND WOULD BE A CONCERN.
UM, THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN WHEN WE APPROVED THE ROOFTOP USE AT 5 5, 5.
WARBURG WAS JUST RESTAURANT NOISE.
THAT WAS REALLY OUR ONLY HOURS AND SOUND AND, AND SPINNING WHEELS ARE REALLY LOUD
I THINK I'D RATHER HEAR A SPINNING WHEEL OF FLESH RIGHT AROUND, UM, WE'LL PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THE USE AND WE'LL PUT IN SOME THOUGHT INTO, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTED USES.
AND, UM, WHEN WE COME BACK WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I HADN'T, I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT AS WELL, BUT I THOUGHT, WELL, HOW LOUD COULD A KNITTING CIRCLE GET
AND THEN, UH, WE HAVEN'T PUT ANY USE RESTRICTIONS ON THE ROOF, SO I KNOW, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON IT, UM, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD.
AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, JUST TO CONFIRM, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, IT'S UNDECIDED AT THIS POINT, WHETHER IT WOULD BE LONG TERM RESIDENTIAL OR SOME SORT OF SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL.
I, WE ARE CALLING THEM TWO, UH, TWO RENTAL UNITS.
UM, BUT, BUT, UM, KAREN DID SAY SHE MAY USE, SHE MAY USE THEM FOR VISITING ARTISTS AS WELL.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST KEEP THAT OPTION OPEN IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
BUT I, I, I, I THINK THAT THE, USING THEM AS THEIR, AS RENTAL UNITS WOULD BE THE MORE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL USE OF THESE SPACES.
AND SO WHETHER SHE DECIDES TO CHARGE RENT OR IF SHE DOESN'T, MAYBE IT'S JUST UP TO HER.
YOU KNOW, MY, MY FEELING ABOUT THAT IS, IS IF IT'S, IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL USE AND SOMEBODY'S USING IT SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM, THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME AS LONG AS IT MEETS CURRENT LAWS THAT WE HAVE AROUND THAT.
UM, THAT'S MY OPINION IS I THINK IT, IT, IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE LAYOUT OR THEY'RE GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL SPACES.
THEY'RE A TWO BEDROOM AND TWO BATH.
THEY HAVE LAUNDRIES, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RESIDENTIAL SPACES.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
ANYBODY ELSE? YOU DON'T ALL HAVE TO COMMENT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, THE STORMWATER PLANTERS IN THE BACK, ARE THERE ANY, UM, ARE ANY OF THE DOWNSPOUTS, UM, LEADING INTO THAT STORMWATER PLANTER? OR IS THAT JUST CAPTURING RAINFALL? UM, THAT IS JUST CAPTURING RAINFALL AND IT IS TIED IN? SO THE EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM, UM, AS I RECALL IS, UM, IS, UM, GOING THROUGH THE CRAWL SPACE AND, UM, THROUGH, WE HAVE A BASEMENT PLAN GOING THROUGH THE, UM, UM, THROUGH THE CRAWL SPACE OF THE BUILDING.
THERE'S, THERE IS A BASEMENT AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
DO YOU REMEMBER WE LOOKED AT THIS IN SOME DETAIL ON THE OTHER YEAH.
UM, THERE'S OUR BASEMENT PLAN.
SO, UM, 'CAUSE IT WAS WEIRD
THEY CROSS THE CURB, THEY CROSS UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK AND COME OUT ON THE CURB.
UM, JUST LIKE THEY, THEY DO CURRENTLY.
HOW THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT, ALL THE BUILDINGS ALONG THIS WHOLE STRIP ARE THE EXACT, THE SAME WAY.
AND BECAUSE IT'S EXISTING, WE DON'T HAVE TO,
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WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO MODIFY IT.UH, WE WERE ONLY ASKED TO MAYBE JUST HELP WITH THE STORM WATER IN THE BACK.
AND THAT STORMWATER PLANTER IS TIED TO THAT SAME SYSTEM.
IT'S GONNA BE CONNECTED TO, UM, I BELIEVE THEY'RE SHOWING IT CONNECTED TO, UH, THE DRAIN PIPE THAT GOES INTO THE, THE STREET.
OR IS, I WISH I SHOULD, I SHOULD.
UH, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ADDING MORE PERVIOUS SURFACE, RIGHT? UM, ACTUALLY WE ARE, UH, JUST REMOVING, THIS IS ALL CONCRETE HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE REMOVING THE CONCRETE AND WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING, UH, PERMEABLE PAVERS DOWN.
SO WE ARE NOT ADDING MORE PERMEABLE.
YOU'RE ADDING, PERMEABLE ADDING.
WE'RE ADDING, WE'RE ADDING PERMEABLES.
WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DIFFICULT, I MEAN, YOU SAW, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, A KIND OF A WELL BACK THERE.
IT'S FOR, FOR THE BEST FOR THE BUILDING AS WELL TO TRY AND MANAGE THE WATER, YOU KNOW, AS BEST WE CAN.
BUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET STORMWATER UNITS ON THERE.
AND THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, BUT MY POINT BEING THAT YEAH, THE PAVERS WILL HELP OVER CONCRETE.
UM, WELL, SINCE I'M OR LISA, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING OR? I, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE BUSINESS LOSING YEAH, ME TOO.
YARN INNING STORE I, HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT WAS.
UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION, WE DID GET A MEMO FROM HA ENGINEERING.
UM, THERE WERE SOME SMALL, UM, KIND OF, UH, ISSUES, UH, RELATED TO JUST NOTES ABOUT UTILITIES AND, UM, AND, UM, UH, SEQUENCING, UH, ON THE, ON WHEN, AND SO DTS IS WORKING ON THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF, IF WE ARE COMING BACK, WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A RESPONSE TO THAT MEMO.
JUST, YEAH, THAT WAS SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
UM, I WILL JUST SAY THAT, UH, I DO THINK THIS IS A MUCH IMPROVED, UM, APPLICATION SITE PLAN FOR THE USE.
I, I THINK, UM, IT'S WONDERFUL THAT IT'S LIKE THE LAST, UM, APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, REINTRODUCING HOUSING WHERE IT USED TO BE, IT WAS, UM, TWO STORIES OF COMMERCIAL.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE STRUGGLES OF A VILLAGE LIKE HASTINGS IS JUST KEEPING THE DOWNTOWN VIBRANT AND FINDING ADAPTING TO NEW USES OR ADDING USES, UM, OVER TIME THAT WORK.
UM, BECAUSE WE, WE DEFINITELY, WE NEED THAT ACTIVITY IN THE DOWNTOWN.
WE NEED USES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T CREATE A DEAD ZONE.
AND THAT, TO REVIEW WHAT MY CONCERN WAS LAST TIME IS, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING FROM A GROUND FLOOR USE THAT SORT OF IS, IS, UM, MORE OF A, A HIDDEN KIND OF, UM, USE BEHIND GLASS, UH, TO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY WELCOMING AND OPEN IS, IS GREAT.
AND, UM, SO I THINK THIS, THIS IS A REALLY NICE, WILL BE A NICE ADDITION TO OUR DOWNTOWN.
AND, AND I WANNA POINT OUT EVA, THAT, THAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UM, IN, IN OUR CHALLENGE DOWNTOWNS THESE DAYS, WHAT THIS IS NOW CALLED IS EXPERIENTIAL RETAIL.
SO THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT BRAND NEW USE CATEGORY THAT'S FILLING THE SPACE OF TRADITIONAL RETAIL USES OR TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL USES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF IN THE, IN THE VILLAGE.
SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS, UM, PROPOSAL AND, UM, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I WILL NOTE, YEAH, WE, WE DID GET THE, UM, OUR VILLAGE ENGINEERS MEMO, WHICH I KNOW YOU ALL WILL BE, UM, COMMENTING ON IT.
UM, SO WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS, UH, SOME LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS ON, UM, WHITMAN OBJECTING TO THE ROOFTOP USE.
UM, I THINK WE REVIEWED JUST IN THIS MEETING ARE REASONS WHY, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S INAPPROPRIATE USE OR I GUESS I CAN STATE IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT'S UP ON THAT ROOF THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS UNDER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING TO
UM, AND, UH, LIKE OTHER SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN, THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE ANY OUTDOOR SPACE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE WITHOUT ROOFTOP USE.
AND WE LIVE IN THIS LOVELY TOWN WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL VIEWS.
UM, SO I THINK OTHER THAN, OTHER THAN APPROPRIATE CONCERN ABOUT, UM, CREATING USE THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR DISTURBANCE TO, UH, NEIGHBORS, SOMETHING LIKE A LOUD RESTAURANT USE, UM, WITH MUSIC PLAYING AT ALL HOURS, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S REASON TO OBJECT TO USING, UM, THE ROOFTOP FOR BASICALLY IN THE SAME WAY THAT PEOPLE USE THEIR BACKYARDS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT AS A, AS A RESPONSE TO THE CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE A, A PROBLEM.
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AGREE.AND I, AND I JUST WANNA SAY ALSO IN THE SPIRIT OF, UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, CITIZEN PLANNERS ON THIS BOARD, THAT, UM, WE NEED TO BE REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW WE RESPOND TO, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE US THAT ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, TRYING TO, UM, WHEN, WHEN A AN EXISTING USE IS NO LONGER NEEDED IN THIS CASE IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, LONGSTANDING ARCHITECTURE FIRM THAT NEEDED TWO FULL FLOORS OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, WELL THAT'S GONE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NO LONGER NEEDED.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE RESPOND IN A WAY TO, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE US THAT ENABLE, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UM, IS BOTH A NEEDED USE AND, UM, MAINTAINS OR EVEN CREATES NEW VIBRANCY IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
UM, SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE, WE'RE, SINCE I THINK WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IS THAT WE HAVE THE ONE CONCERN ABOUT JUST KNOWING EXACTLY HOW THE, THE ROOF DECK IS GONNA BE USED.
SO I THINK, UM, AND SINCE, AND WE'RE NOT HOLDING THINGS UP BY NOT GRANTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL THIS EVENING SINCE IT NEEDS TO GO TO A RB.
SO WE'LL JUST ASK YOU TO COME NEXT TIME WITH MORE INFORMATION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN THEN DELIVERED, UM, ON A RB.
WE'LL GO TO A RB AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT THE, THE, THE CHANGES FOR, UM, REGARD TO THE HAN MEMO FOR THE NEXT GO AROUND, SO WE'LL, OKAY.
AND IF, IF THERE'S ANY MAJOR CHANGES AT A RB, YOU CAN PRESENT THOSE AT THAT TIME TOO, IF USUALLY ISN'T, BUT YOU KNOW HOW YOU NEVER KNOW.
AND I ALSO ALSO SAY IT'S JUST A, IT'S A LOVELY DESIGN AND, UM, I THINK PRESERVING THAT BEAUTIFUL STOREFRONT, IT'S IS SUCH A LOVELY BUILDING AND IT'S SO CENTRAL TO OUR DOWNTOWN.
UH, AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S REALLY JUST THINK OF ALL THE SCARVES AND MITTENS,
SO SHE HAS SOME GREAT IDEAS FOR THE INTERIOR.
I DIDN'T BRING THEM ALL IN, BUT, UM, MAYBE WE'LL, UH, GET THAT PACKAGE READY FOR THE A RV AND WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU WHEN WE COME BACK.
BUT SHE HAS SOME WONDERFUL IDEAS, SO WE'RE EXCITED.
UM, WELL WE HAVE A SHORT AGENDA THIS EVENING.
UM, WE, I WILL NOTE THAT, UM, THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, WHEN YOU HEAR US SAYING A RB, THAT'S THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, DID, UM, HAVE ON THEIR AGENDA SOME COMMENTS ON THE WASHINGTON NEWS PROJECT.
AND WE DO HAVE A LEASE LIAISON, UM, TO THE A RB.
BUT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, DANIEL, YOU, I KNOW YOU HAD, YOU HAD, YOU HAD A, I'VE GOT EXCUSE
SO HE WAS PLANNING TO WATCH THE RECORDING, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR, UM, FROM THE MINUTES YOU CAN, YOU CAN BRIEF US ON, UM, WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER, UH, BOARDS ARE SAYING ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT COME BACK TO US.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR WHAT THEIR COMMENTS ARE.
AND YOU HAVE AN ADDITI AN AN ADDITIONAL ITEM TO ADD YES.
BEFORE WE CLOSE, WE HAVE, UM, LINDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO UM, SURE.
PREVIEW THAT OR, OR GO OVER IT WITH US? YEAH, YEAH, SURE.
SO THE, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON TUESDAY NIGHT, UM, REFERRED YOU, UM, A PETITION FROM THE OWNER OF ONE NORTH STREET LOOKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
IF YOU ALL DON'T KNOW, ONE NORTH STREET IS THE BRICK OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S ACROSS FROM THE GAS STATION AT THE END OF MAPLE DOWN HERE.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONE CO UM, WHICH BASICALLY ONLY ALLOWS OFFICE USES.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR SOME TIME.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEMAND FOR OFFICE AND THEY'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO US FOR SOME TIME ABOUT, UM, POTENTIALLY CONVERTING IT TO RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAD ASKED THEM TO WAIT UNTIL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS COMPLETE BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WAS SOMETHING BEING LOOKED AT IN THE COMP PLAN.
UM, SO THEY HAVE NOW PETITIONED THE VILLAGE BOARD TO AMEND THE ZONING FROM CO TO MCO, UM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE RESIDENTIAL USE.
UM, THE PLAN IS TO USE THE EXISTING BUILDING, UM, AND THEY CAN PUT FOUR UNITS IN THERE.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT KEEPING AN OFFICE SPACE IN THE LOWER LEVEL.
UM, SO IT WOULD STILL BE A, IT WOULD BE A MIXED USE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SO WHEN YOU GET A REFERRAL, A MRC, SORRY, GO CHANGING TO THE MRC FROM THE CO.
SO YOUR CODE SAYS IT REQUIRES THE VILLAGE BOARD TO REFER THIS TO YOU FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT AND IT ASKS THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS, UM,
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WHETHER IT'S CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHETHER THE USE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, THE USE PERMITTED BY THE NEW ZONING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION AND WHETHER THERE'S ADEQUATE FACILITIES AND SERVICES FOR THE USE AT THIS LOCATION.UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU NEED TO ADDRESS.
UM, IN ADDITION, THE UH, BOARD OF TRUSTEES CIRCULATED TO YOU THEIR NOTICE OF INTENT TO ACT AS THE LEAD AGENCY UNDER CCRA.
UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A LITTLE WHILE KNOW THAT WE, WE'VE SORT OF HAD A BUNCH OF THESE WHERE THERE'S A SITE PLAN AND A ZONING AMENDMENT.
SOME OF THEM YOU'VE BEEN LEAD AGENCY ON, SOME OF THEM THEY'VE BEEN LEAD AGENCY ON.
AND WE'VE SORT OF LOOKED AT WHERE'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ACTION.
YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVAL HERE IS GONNA BE PRETTY MINIMAL.
IT'S REALLY THE PARKING LOT 'CAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
THE BIGGER CHANGE HERE, THE BIGGER THING HERE IS THE ZONING.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY THEY INDICATED THEIR INTENT TO BE LEAD AGENCY.
UM, SO YOU CAN OBJECT OR YOU CAN AGREE
AND IT SUGGESTED WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TEED UP THESE APPLICATIONS, UM, APPROPRIATELY.
AND I WOULD ASK ONE OTHER ELEMENT OF THIS IS THEY'RE NOT TEARING DOWN THE BUILDING AND STARTING ALL OVER, THEY'RE REUSING THAT EXISTING BUILDING.
SO AS LINDA SAID, NO CHANGE TO THE FOOTPRINT, A LITTLE MODIFICATIONS IN THE PARKING LOT.
SO THE IMPLICATION OF THE CHANGE DOESN'T CHANGE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE AT ALL, OTHER THAN NOW YOU'LL HAVE A TENANTED BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO A VACANT BUILDING.
THERE'S REALLY TWO, UM, PRIME THEMES IN THE COMP PLAN FOR THOSE.
THERE WERE SOME COMP PLAN MEMBERS HERE.
UM, ONE IS, UM, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN OR NEAR THE DOWNTOWN.
AND THE OTHER IS ADAPTIVE REUSE.
SO THIS IS REALLY AN APPROPRIATE ADAPTIVE REUSE, UM, OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
SO, UM, IN TERMS OF YOUR FIRST QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT IT, YOU KNOW, IS COMPLIANT WITH THE CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANTICIPATED.
SO THIS CAME TO YOU RECENTLY, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH MORE TO LOOK AT WITH RESPECT TO THIS.
SO YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE VILLAGE BOARD IN ANY MANNER YOU CHOOSE, WHICH IS, WE THINK IT'S GREAT, WE THINK IT'S TERRIBLE, WE NEED TO STUDY IT MORE, WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO AT THIS POINT.
BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO STUDY OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IN THE LAST APPLICATION.
SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, VERY SIMILAR IN THAT WE DO NEED ADAPTIVE REUSE OF SPACES IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
UM, CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANNA HAVE BUILDINGS EMPTY
I THINK THAT ENCOURAGING HOUSING, I MEAN, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND EVERYTHING WE JUST DISCUSSED.
I, I JUST WANT TECHNICAL QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT I LOOKED VERY QUICKLY AT THE PACKAGE THEY SUBMITTED, THEN I LOOKED AT THE, THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHERS ON THE BOARD WHO ARE, UH, PATRICK, CERTAINLY YOU WHO ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE ACTUAL VILLAGE ZONING MAP AND THE MRC DESIGNATION OR, UH, SPECIFICALLY IS THAT VERY COMMON DOWNTOWN? I DIDN'T SEE MANY PARTIALS THAT WERE MAPPED AS MRC.
IT'S UM, THE MRC IS DOWN ON LOWER WASHINGTON.
AND IT'S ALSO, UM, YEAH, IT'S NOT ON THE MAP.
FURTHER DOWN IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THE
THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, AND WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT ZONING.
THIS IS A REAL TRANSITION SPOT.
SO YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT A FEW YEARS AGO THERE HAD BEEN ANOTHER OFFICE BUILDING SORT OF BEHIND THIS ONE.
UM, I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS ALSO A ZONE CO AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE OWNER OF THAT CAME TO YOU AND ALSO ASKED FOR A REZONE.
SO WHILE THE MATCH POST SHOWS IT AS CO IT HAS BEEN REZONED, UM, THE PIECE RIGHT BEHIND THIS, AND THEY ACTUALLY ASKED FOR IT TO BE REZONED TO FAMILY BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY MORE OF IT.
PART OF THE TWO FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS BEHIND THIS, THIS LOT IS ALMOST MORE TRANSITIONAL.
UM, SO TO ALLOW A LITTLE MORE DENSITY THAN THE TWO FAMILY ZONING, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM A PARKING LOT OR FROM A GAS STATION.
UM, IT'S CLOSER TO THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
SO I THINK IT ACTUALLY THE MRC ZONE FITS WELL HERE AS A
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TRANSITIONAL USE TO THE LESS DENSE TWO FAMILY THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.DOES THE MRC ZONING PERMIT, UH, AN ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IF THEY WANT IT TO HAVE ONE? YES.
WHICH, I MEAN, INCIDENTALLY THIS IS NOT PART OF THE STREET WALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM.
IT'S MORE OF A TRANSITIONAL OR IT'S A TRANSITIONAL, IT'S ALSO A GATEWAY.
AND AS A VACANT BUILDING, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST THINGS WE WANT IN A GATEWAY INTO THE DOWNTOWN.
SO I THINK IT TICKS A LOT OF THE BOXES.
I REINFORCED LINDA'S POINT THOUGH.
THIS IS SUPREMELY TRANSITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY MULTIFAMILY DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT.
SO IT, IT'S REALLY, IT FITS QUITE WELL.
I, I THINK YOU RAISE A GOOD QUESTION, DANIEL, BECAUSE MY CONCERN WOULD BE SINCE THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, COMMERCIAL ON THE, IN THE BASEMENT RIGHT.
BUT THEY COULD IF THEY WANTED TO NOT HAVE, YEAH.
AND I THINK THAT AGAIN, IN THE SPIRIT OF ADAPTABILITY AND MAKING SURE THE SPACES WORK MM-HMM
UM, THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.
I THINK THE LOWER LEVEL HAS HABITABILITY ISSUES YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THEY SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, AND THE TEAM CURRENTLY BEING USED NOW, IT ACTUALLY IS AN OCCUPYING SPACE.
UHHUH, IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A COMMERCIAL SPACE AND THAT'S USUALLY THE OKAY.
ONLY THE LOWER LEVEL, JUST THE LOWER THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS FACING.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO FLOORS ARE EMPTY.
JUST AGAIN, IT'S A YELLOW DOOR.
THERE'S, THAT'S WHERE THE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY JUST MAKES SENSE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE ZONING, JUST WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BRING.
SO THERE'S JUST TWO THINGS FOR YOU TO DO, UM, THAT I CAN CONVEY BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
ONE IS IF YOU CONSENT TO THEM ACTING AS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT THAT I HAVE TO STOP USING SPR
AND THE OTHER IS IF YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST A MEMO BACK TO THEM INDICATING THAT YOU SUPPORT THE PROPOSED REZONING AND YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THE THREE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED.
CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN, APPROPRIATE SITE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE FACILITIES AND SERVICES.
I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANY OF US AND WE CERTAINLY WE'RE FINE WITH THEM BEING LEAD AGENCY AS WELL, SO IT HELPS THE PROCESS MOVE MORE SMOOTHLY.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE THE LEAD AGENCY, IT HAS TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH A FEW EXTRA TIMES.
WE DON'T, I MEAN I THINK, I HONESTLY, I FEEL BAD THEY HAD TO WAIT THROUGH THE WHOLE COMP PLAN PROCESS.
I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT WANNA HOLD THIS UP.
IT WASN'T LONG ENOUGH IF YOU ASKED THEM OF THE CITIZENS, IT'S HARD TO DO A ZONING AMENDMENT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMP PLAN PROCESS.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY MORE IDEAL TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S DONE.
I I, I GET, I GET THE REASONS WHY.
I'M JUST MAKING THE POINT THAT IF WE CAN NOT HOLD THINGS UP, UM, ANYMORE, ANYMORE, THAT IS A GOOD THING.
WE DON'T WANNA BE PART OF THAT.
WELL, SO WE, UM, IF YOU CAN YEAH, YOU, YOU CAN DRAFT A MEMO FOR US TO, TO SEND OVER THAT'D BE FINE.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT PATRICK DID AN AMAZING JOB AT SPRING THING.
NING UP PLANNING ZONING BOARD.
I, PATRICK WAS SO AMAZING, I KIND OF BREEZED IN, HUNG OUT WITH THEM FOR A LITTLE WHILE, ATE FOOD AND HE LET ME GO.
WE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT DEER AND VERY FEW COMMENTS ABOUT PLANNING
WELL THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR REPRESENTATIVE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE WORK WE DO ON A VERY HOT SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
AND UM, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO DO IT NEXT YEAR.
I THINK THIS IS PATRICK'S THING NOW.
I ACTUALLY, I WAS A LITTLE, I WAS NERVOUS IT WAS GONNA BE, UH, A LONG DAY.
AND ACTUALLY I WAS WITH, UH, WHAT'S, I FORGET HIS LAST NAME.
RICHARD FROM THE ZONING BOARD, WHO'S A LOVELY PERSON, GRIFFIN.
WE HAD, WE ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY FUN DAY.
HE DID A GREAT JOB ON THE LITTLE WRITE UP ABOUT THE TWO BOARDS HE DID.
HE BROUGHT THE BIGGEST, WE HAD THE BIGGEST TENT ON BROADWAY.
I HAD AN OBLIGATION, UM, ELSEWHERE, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR COVERING THAT.
YOU LET ME TAKE A BREAK SO I CAN USE THE BOUNCY HOUSE SLOT.
WELL, UM, SO THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR AGENDA.
UM, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON JUNE 18TH.
UM, HOPEFULLY DO PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COME FOR VACATION PLANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT MIGHT BE GRADUATION DAY FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
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OH, OH.WELL WE DEFINITELY WILL SEE YOU ON THAT.
I WILL GRADUATION AND FRIDAY IS A HOLIDAY.
UM, I WILL NOT BE, YOU WILL NOT.
I WANT TO SEE IT BEFORE IT MELTS.
ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL DO THE USUAL, UM, CHECKING EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULES, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A QUORUM.
AND, UM, NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, UH, WE HAVEN'T, WE FILLED OUT ALL OUR SEATS, SO HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH QUORUM ATTRIBUTE, AT LEAST THAT MUCH.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT I WON'T BE, I WON'T BE, UM, HERE FOR THE JULY MEETING, SO WE'LL DO, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT LATER.
BUT, UM, I'LL BE HERE FOR JUNE.
SO DO WE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
YOU GUYS ARE, SO I STILL SECONDARY.