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          [ Call to Order]
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WELCOME TO THE, UM, JULY 23RD MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. 
          UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO CASES THIS EVENING. 
          UM, ARE ALL THE MAILINGS IN ORDER? MR. I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY MY STAFF THAT ALL THE MAILINGS ARE IN ORDER, SIR. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THE PROCESS WILL BE THAT, UM, SOMEONE WILL PRESENT EACH CASE, UM, WHETHER IT'S THE APPLICANT, UH, OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. 
          WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. 
          UH, WE'LL TAKE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          IF ANYONE'S HERE, THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS AND THEN VOTE. 
          UM, IF YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          UH, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ONLY HAVE THREE BOARD MEMBERS HERE TODAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, IF WE DO VOTE, UH, IT WILL HAVE TO BE UNANIMOUS. 
          UH, TYPICALLY YOU WOULD NEED A MAJORITY WHEN WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS, BUT WHEN WE ONLY HAVE THREE, YOU WOULD NEED ALL THE VOTES. 
          UH, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE MEETING, WE CAN OFFER YOU, UH, THE ABILITY TO POLL THE BOARD. 
          UH, AND IF YOU CHOOSE, YOU CAN HOLD OVER TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AND COME BACK WHEN WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE MORE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, GREAT. 
          UH, IN THAT CASE, WE WILL CALL THE FIRST CASE, 
          [Case No. 08-26 ]
UH, CASE NUMBER, UH, OH 8 26, UM, 82 ROSEDALE AVENUE. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS GABRIEL. 
          SEE, I'M THE ARCHITECT, UM, WORKING WITH GABE ZEN, UM, ON THEIR, UM, BASEMENT RENOVATION PROJECT. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, SO, UH, JUST THE, THAT'S THE PETITION, RIGHT? THE FORM THAT WE, WE, UM, WE SUBMITTED. 
          WE ARE, UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR, UM, A FRONT YARD ENCROACHMENT AS WE'RE PROPOSING A, AN STAIR THAT WILL GIVE A INDEPENDENT ACCESS FROM THE, UH, BACKYARD INTO THE BASEMENT THAT WE ARE RENOVATING. 
          UH, HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE HOUSE. 
          UM, THIS IS THE PHOTO FROM THE STREET. 
          THIS IS IN ROSEDALE AVENUE. 
          UM, THIS IS A, A CLOSE UP AT THE ENTRY. 
          THE WORK WE ARE PROPOSING IS ON THIS SIDE, WHICH IS ON THE, UM, WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          UM, IS BASICALLY TAKING THIS WINDOW THAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS, UH, IN A BASEMENT EXCAVATE, UM, SIX FOOT SIX RIGHT FROM, UH, UM, THE, THE, THE FOUNDATION WALL AND PUT A DOOR THERE, AND THEN A SET OF STAIRS THAT WILL BRING YOU FROM THE BASEMENT UP TO THE BACKYARD. 
          UM, THERE'S A DECK HERE. 
          THAT'S WHERE MY, MY PHOTO IS, IS CROPPED. 
          BUT, UH, THIS DECK BASICALLY EXTENDS AND YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE HERE, UH, OR THE RAIL EXTENDS UP TO THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE. 
          SO, UM, THE STAIR, THE LANDING OF THE STAIR WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE ON THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE YOU'LL SEE ON THE, ON THE PLANE IN A MINUTE. 
          UH, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE STARTED THIS, UH, SLIDE. 
          BUT THIS, JUST TO LOCATE WHERE THE, THE PROJECT IS, THIS IS RELLE AVENUE. 
          THIS IS THE, UH, LOCATION OF THE HOUSE. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. 
          THIS, UH, ARIA HERE IS THE, UH, EXTENT OF THE STAIR. 
          AND, UM, ARIA HIGHLIGHTED IN THE YELLOW, WHICH IS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IS, IS IS WHAT'S, UH, ENCROACHING RIGHT TO THE FRONT YARD. 
          SO WE ARE, UH, SUPPOSED TO HAVE A 25 FEET FRONT YARD SETBACK. 
          UH, WE ARE ALIGNING OR, UM, IN THE, THE EXTENT OF THE STAIR TO THE FACE OF THE HOUSE. 
          AND, UM, AND THAT PUTS US FIVE FOOT SEVEN, UH, SORRY, 5.75 FEET, OR FIVE FOOT NINE, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCROACHING INTO THE, INTO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. 
          UM, IT'S, UH, AN EXISTING AND A PROPOSED PLAN. 
          UM, IT'S CURRENTLY AN UNFINISHED BASEMENT EXCEPT FOR THIS PART HERE. 
          IT'S A LOWER ROOM THAT WAS BUILT, UH, LATER TO THE HOUSE. 
          UM, THE PROJECT ENTAILS TO RENOVATE THIS EXISTING BATHROOM, UM, AND, UH, CREATE A WORKSTATION WHERE IT'S GOING TO STORAGE, REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE MECHANICAL ROOM, UM, REFINISH THIS OPEN ROOM AS YOU LAND FROM THE STAIR AND, UM, REFINISH THE EXISTING, UM, YOU KNOW, FINISH SPACE IN THE BASEMENT AND OF COURSE, ADD THE DOOR, UM, IN PLACE OF THE EXISTING WINDOW. 
          UH, WE ARE ALSO ADDING OTHER, OTHER WINDOWS. 
          UM, WHEN THIS, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PROFILE OF THE HOUSE, IT HAS A BAY WINDOW ON THE FIRST FLOOR. 
          IT CARRIES DOWN, THE FOUNDATIONAL WALL CARRIES DOWN TO THE BASEMENT. 
          SO WE ARE POKING SOME HOLES ON THAT FOUNDATION WALL TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN AN EFFORT TO BRING MORE DAYLIGHT TO THE BASEMENT TO MAKE THIS PLACE FEELS A LITTLE MORE GENEROUS AND LESS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T FEEL AS MUCH AS A BASEMENT. 
          UM, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE REASONING WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THIS LOCATION FOR THE STAIRS IS TO USE THE FOUNDATION WALL OF THE HOUSE AS, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A RETAINING WALL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE PIT FOR THE STAIRS. 
          SO THAT WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF, UH, SOIL, UM, DISTURBANCE WE WOULD CREATE IN THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, 
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SO WE ARE ADDING A RETAINING WALL THAT'S PARALLEL, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME LENGTH, UM, OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN A RETURN OF SIX SIX. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS, UM, UM, A SECTION DRAWING, UM, SHOWING THE DOOR AND THE WINDOWS THAT WE ARE RE UH, ADDING AND, UH, AN EXISTING METER WE'RE REPLACING. 
          AND THIS IS A, A NEIGHBORHOOD ANALYSIS I PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UM, MOSTLY TO ANALYZE THE HOUSE IN RELATIONSHIP TO ITS IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. 
          SO FROM PRECO PLACE DOWN TO ME STREET, THE HOUSE IS KIND OF RIGHT IN THE CENTER. 
          SO I, I, I LOOKED UP THERE THE EXISTING FRONT YARD OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ADJACENT HOUSES THAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING HERE AND IN RED ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, UH, SHORTER THAN 25 FEET. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE 19 PROPERTIES, I'M NOT COUNTING OUR, OUR, UH, PROPERTY 13, UM, ARE, UH, ENCROACHING INTO THE FRONT YARD AND, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS IS, UH, UP TO 71%. 
          AND ON THE WEST SIDE, SIX, 7%. 
          THIS IS, IS AN EFFORT TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD THAT WE ARE NOT, UH, DEVIATING FROM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE IS A, A STRONG PRECEDENT FOR THIS FRONT YARD. 
          IN FACT, THE HOUSE ITSELF, UM, HAS A FRONT YARD ENCROACHMENT, AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO GO ANY, ANY PAST THAT WE'RE BASICALLY CONTAINING OUR, UM, UM, STAIR, UM, TO THOSE LIMITATIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? I JUST HAVE ONE THE, WELL, FIRST, JUST WANNA NOTE, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT CHART THAT'S, UH, ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF THE NEW NON-CONFORMING WALL, HOW FAR IS THAT ABOVE GRADE IN THE SECTION? IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE A FOOT OR SO, IS IT? YEAH, THAT'S, UH, UM, YEAH, WE, IT IS JUST, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE EVEN LESS THAN THAT. 
          I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE LIKE SIX INCHES MOSTLY LIKE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, A WATERPROOFING OF THE WALL, JUST TO HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, A POSITIVE, UM, SLOPE, UH, YOU KNOW, BE, UH, PUSHING WATER OUT. 
          UH, BUT IT IS, I THINK THE, THE PART IS GONNA BE VISIBLE. 
          IT'S REALLY THE RALLYING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A RALLYING ABOVE THE WALL. 
          UH, 'CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S QUITE A, QUITE A BIT OF A DROP, UH, BUT THE WALL IS YOU, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE CAP OF THE WALL, BASICALLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, ALONG THOSE LINES ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED WATER AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, CAN YOU JUST, UM, CLARIFY FOR ME, ARE YOU GOING TO BE CHANGING THE IMPERVIOUS, UM, SORT OF LAND AROUND? YES. 
          SO THAT'S THAT FIVE FEET, UM, WELL, IT'S, THE, IS THE EXTENT IS THAT, UH, SORRY, SIX FOOT SIX BY 20, SORRY, 19, 19 FOOT SIX. 
          THAT AREA WILL, WE ARE REPLACING GROUND COVER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY THERE WITH, UH, HARDSCAPE, RIGHT? FOR THIS THERE. 
          SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE A, A STORM WATER MITIGATION, UH, SYSTEM THAT WILL CAPTURE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS INCREASED IMP IMPROVE SURFACE THAT THE PROJECT IS, IS CREATING. 
          AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVERLOADING THE VILLAGE OR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. 
          AND OF COURSE, THAT'S ALWAYS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. 
          WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAPTURE ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL RUNOFF. 
          BUT TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE NOT, SORRY, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY BULK ZONING RELIEF. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT OVER COVERAGE. 
          YOU'RE NOT OVER FAR? NO, NO. 
          IT'S REALLY THE FRONT YARD. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? QUESTIONS? UM, DID WE RECEIVE ANY, UM, LETTERS IN SUPPORT? WE HAVE NO COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS CASE. 
          NO. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? PLEASE COME UP AND, UM, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          HI, UM, MY NAME IS EVA KLEIN BORA. 
          I'M HERE FOR THE SECOND CASE, BUT AS IT HAPPENS, UM, I LIVE ON THE NEXT BLOCK, VERY CLOSE TO THIS HOUSE. 
          AND, UH, WE WERE FRIENDS WITH THE FAMILY THAT PREVIOUSLY OWNED THIS HOME AND I'VE BEEN IN THE HOUSE NUMBER OF TIMES. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, THIS IS A WELL CONCEIVED SOLUTION, UH, FOR THE PROBLEM. 
          AND I DON'T SEE ANY DETRIMENTAL IMPACT AT ALL. 
          AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE FOR THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT? ALRIGHT, HEARING NOTHING ELSE, UM, WE WILL GO TO DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD. 
          UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING YOU PARTICULARLY WANNA SAY BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE FACTORS? ALRIGHT, UH, SO THESE ARE THE FACTORS THAT WE CONSIDER IN, UM, AN AREA OF VARIANCE. 
          NUMBER ONE IS WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY THE GRANTING 
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OF THE AREA VARIANCE. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE? I WOULD JUST COMMENT THAT THIS, THE SCHEMATIC THAT WE REVIEWED WAS VERY HELPFUL TO SHOW THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A DETRIMENT, IN MY OPINION. 
          AGREED. 
          AND I THINK IT'S MINIMALLY VISIBLE. 
          UH, THAT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A RAILING AT BEST. 
          UH, WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME METHOD FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE OTHER THAN AN AREA OF VARIANCE, I THINK THIS IS A LOGICAL SOLUTION TO BOTH ACCESS THE BASEMENT AND BRING IN MORE LIGHT. 
          AGREED. 
          UH, THREE, WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA OF VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL. 
          NO, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL AREA THAN DEPICTED IN YELLOW. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, IT IS, UM, IT IS NO GREATER THAN THE EXISTING ENCROACHMENT OF THEIR EXISTING HOUSE. 
          FOUR. 
          WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT. 
          ANYBODY? NO CONCERNS? I THINK, UH, GABRIEL'S DIAGRAMS WERE VERY HELPFUL FOR THAT ALSO. 
          AND MENTIONING OF THE NORMAL PROCESS OF THE STORM WATER STUDY AS PART OF A, OF A BUILDING PERMIT. 
          AND FINALLY, WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-CREATED, WHICH CONSIDERATION SHALL BE RELEVANT TO THE DECISION OF THE BOARD, BUT NOT NECESSARILY PRECLUDE THE GRANTING OF THE AREA OF VARIANCE. 
          ANYBODY WANT THIS ONE ? NO CONCERNS. 
          NO CONCERNS. 
          WE RECOGNIZE THAT ALMOST ANY VARIANCE REQUIRES SOME SELF CREATIVITY, BUT UM, I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE ONE. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, WE COULD VOTE IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO OR WE COULD HOLD OVER TILL NEXT MEETING. 
          LET'S VOTE. 
          YOU'LL VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE MOTION. 
          YOU NEED ME TO READ IT NOW? RIGHT ON ONE SECOND. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I MAKE A MOTION IN CASE NUMBER 0 8 26 82 ROSEDALE AVENUE, RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH 69 F1 FOR THE FRONT YARD EDITION OF A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT 82 ROSEDALE AVENUE. 
          SAID, PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE R DASH 7.5 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SB FOUR POINT 80 DASH 73 DASH 11 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAPS. 
          THE NON-CONFORMITY, I NEED TO READ THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? THE NON-CONFORMITY FOR THE ADDITION ARE AS FOLLOWS. 
          THERE ARE TWO, ONE THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, EXISTING AND PROPOSED 19.3 FEET, UH, REQUIRED 25 FEET VARIANCE REQUIRED 5.7 FEET, AND THE SECOND, THE EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, VOTING APPROVE. 
          APPROVE, APPROVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          GOOD LUCK. 
          RIGHT? THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT 
          [Case No. 10-26 ]
UP WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 10 26 11 ELM PLACE. 
          I'LL SET UP AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. 
          TAKE YOUR TIME. 
          IT USUALLY TAKES A FEW MYSTERIOUS TRIES. 
          , I DO THIS SO MY MOUSE FITS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A LARGE LAPTOP. 
          I NEED A BIGGER, SHE NEED SOME SPACE FOR HER. 
          I NEED A BIGGER SPACE. 
          YOU NEED A BIGGER PODIUM, I GUESS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS ASKING BEFORE. 
          OKEY DOKEY. 
          LET'S SEE, WHILE WAITING. 
          JOSH, THIS IS THE RESOLUTION FROM LAST MONTH. 
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THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          SORRY, MAKE THIS MOUSE WORK RIGHT NOW. 
          SORRY. 
          FOR SOME REASON THIS MOUSE IS NOT WORKING. 
          SOMETHING, UM, SIX POINT WORK I CAN ASK ON THE RECORD, BUT LIKE, THIS ISN'T AS MANY AS ON THE OTHER ONE. 
          LIKE, THAT'S 12. 
          I CAN'T MAKE THE MOUSE WORK, SO I WILL USE THE COMPUTER MOUSE AND LET'S SEE HOW THAT GOES. 
          SIX, SEVEN. 
          USUALLY IT DOESN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF PROBLEM, BUT, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CLOSER. 
          MY NAME IS EVA RA. 
          I'M AN ARCHITECT HERE TONIGHT FOR, UM, UH, TAR AND, UM, UM, UH, LINDSTROM RESIDENCE AT 11 ELM PLACE. 
          UM, WE ARE, UM, UM, UM, WE'RE COMING TO THE BOARD BECAUSE WE ARE PLANNING TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BACKYARD. 
          AND IN DOING SO, WE, UM, ARE PRESENTING A, UH, UM, PROJECT THAT REQUIRES NUMBER OF VARIANCES. 
          UM, WE ARE FULLY AWARE THAT, UM, THIS IS SORT OF ASTONISHINGLY LONG LIST OF VARIANCES AND, UH, UM, I WILL SAY MANY THINGS AND AT THE SAME TIME TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN COVER ALL THE RELATED ISSUES. 
          UM, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A, UM, THREE PAGE LETTER. 
          IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT, YOU ALREADY HAVE A GOOD GIST OF, OF WHAT, UM, WHAT THE PROJECT ENTAILS. 
          AND, UH, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, I WILL ADD A FEW MORE THINGS TO THE LIST. 
          UM, SO, UM, BEFORE I, UM, START TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, UM, UM, ELM PLACE AND FRAZIER LANE ARE, UM, SOME OF THE OLDEST, UM, AREAS OF HASTINGS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY, UM, PRESERVED THEIR CHARACTER GOING BACK TO EARLY 19 HUNDREDS WHEN THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT. 
          UM, THERE IS NOT VERY MANY SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE VILLAGE. 
          UM, THERE ARE FRACTIONS OF WHAT THE MAIN STREET USED TO BE AND WHAT, UM, WARTON USED TO BE. 
          THERE ARE STILL SOME, UM, ORIGINAL HOUSES STANDING. 
          THERE IS ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE END OF MAPLE AVENUE, WHICH IS THE MARTH PLACE AND RICHDALE AVENUE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE ORIGINAL FABRIC OF THE VILLAGE AND YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSES THE WAY THEY USED TO BE BUILT. 
          UM, SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS ARE MANY OF THE, OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ENTIRELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING CODE. 
          AND IF WE WERE DOING THIS WORK IN 1914, WE WOULD BE ENTIRELY WITHIN THE CHARACTER AND WE WOULD NOT NEED ANY VARIANCES. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE IN 2026, SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WHAT WE'RE DOING ACTUALLY FITS WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE GOAL. 
          UM, BEFORE I START TALKING ABOUT THE THE WORK, I WILL JUST BRIEFLY MENTION THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE FOUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, RECEIVED VARIOUS INPUT AND VARIOUS COMMENTS. 
          BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO, UM, WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, WE HAD, UM, NINE VARIANCES. 
          UM, BY THE TIME THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DID THE REVIEW, WE ENDED UP WITH 12 VARIANCES. 
          I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SORT OF THE TOPICS. 
          THE FIRST TOPIC IS GOING TO BE THE ADDITION THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THE COVERAGE THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ENCLOSED PORCH, 
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WHICH IS A UNIQUE FEATURE, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED SWIMMING POOL. 
          SO, UM, UM, IN THIS FIRST PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, UM, HERE'S THE BLOCK, WHICH SHOWS THE HOUSE AND THE, AND THE, AND, AND SORT OF THE HOUSE IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT ON THE SAME BLOCK. 
          AND IT PRESENTS, UH, A BUNCH OF PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHOW THAT, UM, THE HOUSES ARE IN MANY WAYS CONSISTENT. 
          UM, ON THIS DRAWING, YOU CAN SEE, UM, THAT, UM, THE HOUSE, UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE, UM, IS A SORT OF A T-SHAPED STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS A RIDGE ROOF GOING, UH, EAST WEST, AND THEN IT HAS ANOTHER RETRIEVE IN A SORT OF A TS SHAPE, SHAPE GOING NORTH. 
          AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED WORK, UM, THEN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITION IN THIS CORNER. 
          AND THIS ADDITION CONTAINS A NEW KITCHEN AND UPSTAIRS IT CONTAINS A BEDROOM. 
          UM, THE HOUSE CURRENTLY HAS TWO BEDROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN THAT SHARE ONE OF THE BEDROOMS, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THREE BEDROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR SO THAT THE TWO KIDS CAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE, UM, BEDROOMS. UM, AND, UH, UM, THE HOUSE ALSO DOESN'T HAVE ANY MUDROOM OR ANY ENTRYWAY THAT COULD COMFORTABLY SERVE THEIR FAMILY. 
          SO WE'RE BASICALLY, UM, WORKING ON ADDING A MUD ROOM, RELOCATING A POWDER ROOM, AND THEN RELOCATING AND ENLARGING THE KITCHEN. 
          UM, COMING OUT INTO THE BACKYARD, THERE IS A REAR, THERE'S A PROPOSED DECK, AND THEN THE YARD ITSELF, UM, HAS A PROPOSED GREEN AREA FOR A VEGETABLE GARDEN AND IT HAS A PROPOSED SWIMMING POOL. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, A VARIANCE FOR BUILDING COVERAGE. 
          SO THE, UM, ALLOWED BUILDING COVERAGE IS, UH, 30% AND THE HOUSE AS PROPOSED, UM, REQUIRES A BUILDING COVERAGE OF 31.77%. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE ASKING FOR 1.77%, UM, VARIANCE IN BUILDING COVERAGE, WHICH REPRESENTS 133 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A SMALL VARIANCE AND IT'S NOT TERRIBLY SIGNIFICANT. 
          UM, WE HAVE TRIED TO MAKE EVERYTHING AS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF FUNCTIONAL AND PRACTICAL AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THOSE 133 SQUARE FEET TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE A FULLY FUNCTIONAL KITCHEN AND, AND THE BEDROOM ABOVE. 
          UM, SO IF YOU GO THROUGH THE FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS TWO EXISTING BATHROOM, WHICH WE'RE KEEPING, AND WE'RE ADDING A BEDROOM WITH A WALK-IN CLOSET. 
          AND THEN THESE ARE THE TWO EXISTING BEDROOMS IN THE FRONT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IN, UM, THE HOUSE ALSO HAS A LEGAL ATTIC, UM, WHICH HAS, UH, UM, THREE SMALL ROOMS WITH, UM, SLOPED CEILINGS, WHICH ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, AS FUNCTIONAL AS THEY COULD BE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, IN THE ATTIC FLOOR PLAN, THERE IS A HATCHED AREA, WHICH SHOWS HOW MUCH OF THIS SPACE RIGHT NOW COMES UP TO SEVEN FEET. 
          SO THIS IS THE AREA, THIS SORT OF A T-SHAPED HATCHED AREA IS WHERE YOU CAN WALK RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOU START BUMPING INTO THE SLOPED, UM, ROOF UNDERSIDE AND BUMPING YOUR HEAD. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT SPACE IS NOT REALLY USABLE AND THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, FLOOR AREA WHICH CANNOT BE PROPERLY USED BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          AND THEREFORE, WE'RE PROPOSING INSTALLING NEW DORMERS. 
          AND IN DOING SO, WE'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING THE SIZE OF THE ROOMS, BUT WE'RE GAINING HEIGHT. 
          AND IN GAINING HEIGHT, WE'RE MAKING THE ROOMS ACTUALLY USABLE. 
          AND AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WE REQUIRE A VARIANCE BECAUSE NOW THIS AREA, INSTEAD OF BEING CALLED TWO AND A HALF STORIES, BECOMES A FULL STORY FROM A HALF STORY GOES TO A FULL STORY BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBERS AND THE PERCENTAGES IN COMPARISON TO THE FLOOR BELOW. 
          SO NOW WE REQUIRE A VARIANCE 
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OF HALF A STORY GOING FROM TWO AND A HALF TO THREE STORIES, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STILL ON THE SAME FLOOR IN THE SAME ROOMS. BUT JUST THE INCREASE OF HEIGHT MAKES THIS NOW A THREE STORY, UM, HOUSE. 
          AND THE LAST, UM, RELATED ISSUE IS THE VARIANCE FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHERE, UM, WE BASICALLY, UM, REQUIRE A, UH, UM, OH 0.098 MEANING, UM, LESS THAN 1% VARIANCE, UH, BECAUSE THE FAR UM, EXCEEDS THE, UM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO, UM, GO TO ANOTHER, UM, PAGE, WHICH SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE FAR, WHICH IS THIS HERE, I MADE THIS FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ATTIC WITH THE SEVEN FOOT HIGH SPACES. 
          HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED ATTIC. 
          SO WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT NUMBER OF HOUSES IN THIS AREA AND NUMBER OF HOUSES IN, IN SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OLD HOUSES LIKE THIS IN THE VILLAGE, THEY WERE BUILT WITH THE, WITH THE FULL SIZE ATTICS. 
          AND, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR AT 15 ELM. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, UM, BASICALLY THE SATELLITE VIEW, YOU SEE THAT IT HAS A FLAT ROOF ON THE TAP. 
          IT HAS A VERY STEEP ROOF ANGLE. 
          AND JUST BY LOOKING AT IT, YOU CAN SEE THAT A THIRD FLOOR IS FULLY USABLE. 
          THEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT HOUSE, 21 ELM, AND IT HAS GAVE US ON FOUR SIDES OF THE HOUSE, PLUS IT HAS AN ADDITION. 
          AND AGAIN, IT HAS A FULLY USABLE TALL SPACE IN THE ATTIC. 
          SAME THING HAPPENS IN THE NEXT HOUSE, 25 ELM. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A FULL HEIGHT USABLE SPACE. 
          SO IS THIS, THERE'S AN ADDITION. 
          THERE'S AN ADDITION IN THE BACK. 
          SO IF YOU AND I COULD CONTINUE. 
          SO THERE IS JUST A WHOLE NUMBER OF HOUSES IN THESE TYPES OF HOUSES IN THE VILLAGE WHERE, UM, THE ATTICS ARE PRACTICALLY LIKE A THIRD FLOOR. 
          AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. 
          WE'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO JUST DO A SIMILAR, UM, SORT OF A CHANGE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS IN A NUTSHELL, UM, THE THREE VARIANCES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE HOUSE. 
          UM, NOW I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, DEVELOPMENTAL COVERAGE. 
          UM, SO HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, A VARIANCE OF 6.83%. 
          UM, THERE'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, POINT OUT, WHICH IS THAT, UM, UH, LET'S SEE, I HAVE TO FIND THE CORRECT DRAWING. 
          UM, YES. 
          SO, UM, UM, SO PART OF THIS, UM, OKAY, LET ME, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE FIND OURSELVES IN A SIMILAR SITUATION AS, UH, UM, AS WITH THE BUILDING COVERAGE AND THE FAR, WHICH IS THAT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THERE IS A, UM, UM, NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE VERY SIMILAR COVERAGE. 
          UM, SO, UM, I ALSO, YOU KNOW, WENT TO DO RESEARCH AND I LOOKED AT HOUSES WHICH ARE NEXT TO 11 ELM, AND ON THE SAME BLOCK HOUSES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET HOUSES ON FRAZIER PLACE ON BOTH SIDES OF FRAZIER. 
          SO I'M BASICALLY COVERING THIS ENTIRE MINI NEIGHBORHOOD, THE U-TURN THAT GOES THROUGH ELM AND UM, FRAZIER. 
          AND UH, UM, THERE I HAVE TWO KINDS OF NUMBERS. 
          ONE OF THEM, ONE COLUMN HAS THE NUMBERS WITH A LITTLE ASTERISKS. 
          AND THESE ARE, THIS IS COVERAGE, WHICH IS, UM, GENERATED BY THE STRUCTURES AND ALSO BY THE PAVED AREAS BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENTAL COVERAGE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSES, DECKS, PATIOS, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT WALKWAYS, DRIVEWAYS, UM, UM, STONE WALLS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ON GRADE, THAT'S IMPERMEABLE SURFACE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, 11 ELM IS AT 46, 83 15 ELM IS AT 57%, 21 ELM, WHICH I WORKED ON IS 53.54, 
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UM, 22 ALBUM, WHICH I ALSO WORKED ON IS AT 49.94. 
          UM, AND, UH, UM, I HAVE REALLY NEVER SEEN A PROJECT COME UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE VARIANCES BECAUSE THESE, UM, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS ARE JUST SO MUCH MORE DENSE AND THEY GENERATE SO MUCH MORE COVERAGE THAN MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE VILLAGE. 
          NOW I HAVE ANOTHER COLUMN WHICH IS IN ORANGE. 
          AND THAT'S, UM, AND THESE NUMBERS I FOUND AT, UM, IN GREENBERG DATABASE. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THESE ARE INCOMPLETE BECAUSE GREENBERG DOES NOT LIST, OR, YOU KNOW, ENUMERATE WALKWAYS, DRIVEWAYS AND, UH, STONEWALL, THEY ONLY RECORD HOUSES AND DECKS AND PATIOS. 
          SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THAT SECOND SORT OF ORANGE COLUMN IS ACTUALLY INCOMPLETE. 
          AND WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD FEW PERCENTAGES TO EACH TO ACTUALLY GET TO A NUMBER THAT WOULD BE APPLES TO APPLES VERSUS APPLES TO ORANGES. 
          SO IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS, LET'S SAY 33 ELEMENT IS 42 50, THAT NUMBER APPLES TO APPLES WOULD BE MAYBE 45%, MAYBE 47%, I DUNNO. 
          BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY BELOW THE, UM, ACTUAL NUMBERS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES AND WITH THE, UM, WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO TALK ABOUT THE SETBACKS. 
          UM, AND, UH, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          I'M STRUGGLING BECAUSE MY MOUSE IS NOT WORKING. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU, IF WE GO BACK TO THE REGULAR PLANS, YOU WILL SEE THAT, UM, UM, ON THIS PAGE YOU BASICALLY SEE THE, THE ENTIRE ANALYSIS. 
          UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING PROPERTY WHICH HAS A TWO STORY STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE HOUSE IN DARK OR BLUE. 
          IT HAS ONE STORY FRONT PORCH AND A ONE STORY GARAGE IN A LIGHTER BLUE. 
          AND IT HAS PAVED SURFACES SUCH AS THE CONCRETE PATIO AND A WALKWAY AND THE FRONT WALKWAY IN ORANGE. 
          THE REASON ALL OF THIS CONSTITUTES COVERAGE, BUT IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME KIND OF COVERAGE. 
          UM, AND THEREFORE, UM, I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, EMPHASIZE HOW, UM, HOW THIS ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IN, IN REAL LIFE. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE HOUSE, WE'RE ADDING THE ADDITION. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, THE GARAGE, WHICH THE GARAGE CURRENTLY FUNCTIONS AS A GENERAL PARKING SLASH GARDEN STORAGE SLASH BIKE STORAGE SLASH TRASH STORAGE. 
          AND ANY KIND OF STORAGE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE FAMILY, IT ALL GOES INTO THE GARAGE. 
          SO IN EFFECT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE REMOVING THE GARAGE AND WE'RE SPLITTING IT INTO THREE LITTLE SHEDS, UM, THAT ARE POSITIONED IN, UM, DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROPERTY, BUT ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER PRETTY MUCH ADD UP TO THE SIZE OF THE GARAGE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE FINE PRINT, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE, SO WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE A TRASH AND BIKE STORAGE. 
          WE HAVE A GARDEN SHED AND WE HAVE A POOL SHED AS WELL. 
          SO THESE THREE SHEDS TOGETHER ARE A SWITCHEROO OR A ARE A TRADE OFF FOR THIS SINGLE GARAGE STORAGE SPACE. 
          UM, AND IN DOING SO, UM, WE ARE, UM, REQUESTING A, UM, SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR THE POOL SHED. 
          UM, BECAUSE BOTH THE GARDEN SHED AND THE TRASH AND BIKE SHED ARE INSIDE THE BUILDABLE ENVELOPE, AND THEY DO NOT REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES. 
          BUT THE POOL SHED, WHICH IS A TINY LITTLE STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REALLY NIFTY TO HAVE ACTUALLY IS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND IT REQUIRES A VARIANCE. 
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UM, I WILL SHOW ANOTHER, UM, SCHEMATIC THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT, UH, IN A SECOND. 
          AND I'M JUST GONNA FINISH BY EXPLAINING THAT, UM, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT, UM, THE HOUSE CURRENTLY HAS A WRAP AROUND PORCH. 
          IT WRAPS FROM THE FRONT AND THEN IT GOES WEST. 
          WE HAVE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR, FOR THE PRACTICAL PURPOSES IF WE SORT OF WRAP THE PORCH IN A DIFFERENT WAY, WHICH IS GOING FROM THE FRONT AND THEN GOING EAST. 
          NOW, WHY DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT CONVERGE. 
          ONE OF THEM IS THE FACT THAT, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE REALLY AIMING TO, UM, HAVE A, UH, VEGETABLE GARDEN, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO HAVE. 
          THEY, UM, THEY BASICALLY, UM, ARE GARDENERS AND THEY, UM, UM, LIKE TO GROW THEIR FOODS AND VEGETABLES. 
          AND I HAVE A BRIEF ILLUSTRATION OF HOW GOOD THEY ARE AT IT AND, AND HOW MUCH, UM, THEY, THEY LIKE DOING THAT. 
          AND ACTUALLY HERE YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBOR'S GARAGE AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE PLACING THAT SHED. 
          IT'S BASICALLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO WINDOWS. 
          UM, SO BACK TO THE COVERAGE. 
          UM, NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU WANT TO GARDEN, YOU NEED TWO THINGS. 
          YOU NEED WATER AND YOU NEED SUN. 
          OKAY, SO WHERE DOES THE SUN HAPPEN IN THIS PROPERTY? THE SUN HAPPENS ON THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS THE EAST AND THE SOUTH, WHICH IS WHY IN THIS CASE IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE TO HAVE IT ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT LED US TO FLIP THE PORCH FROM, UM, UM, THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE. 
          UM, THIS BASICALLY CREATES A, UM, A PATH FOR THE SUN TO REACH THIS CORNER AREA AND, AND, AND HAVE A, UH, UM, A NICE LARGE VEGETABLE GARDEN HERE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE IT HERE, THIS ENTIRE AREA IS SHADED BY THE HOUSE ITSELF. 
          UM, AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE PORTION OF THE WRAPAROUND PORCH AND CREATE AN ENCLOSED PORCH INSTEAD OF AN OPEN PORCH. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, I'M GONNA GO BACK THERE. 
          I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN DOING SO, WE ARE ASKING FOR A FRONT VARIANCE, EVEN THOUGH ALL THAT IS HAPPENING IS WE'RE STAYING IN LINE WITH THE EXISTING PORCH AND ALL THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET, BUT ALL OF THE HOUSES ON THE STREET HAVE ABOUT 10 FEET OF A, UH, UM, FRONT SETBACK VERSUS THE 25 FEET THAT TODAY'S CODE IS ASKING FOR. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A VARIANCE FOR THE SIDE YARD BECAUSE, UM, THIS PORCH IS NOW SLIGHTLY PROTRUDING INTO THE SIDE VARIANCE. 
          SO HERE ARE TWO VARIANCES, THE FRONT AND THE UM, SIDE FOR THIS PORCH. 
          I AM GOING TO, UM, TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT, UH, UM, THE ENCLOSED PORCH. 
          UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE FIRST GLANCE IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE, UM, WELL ACTUALLY BEFORE I GO THERE, I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK HERE FOR A SECOND. 
          AND SO HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW ALL THESE HOUSES MORE OR LESS RUN IN A STRAIGHT LINE. 
          AND SO FOR US TO STAY WITHIN THAT LINE, WE STILL NEED A FRONT YARD VARIANCE, BUT ALL, ALL WE'RE DOING IS STAYING IN, IN LINE WITH ALL THE OTHER HOUSES. 
          AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF THE SIDE VARIANCE AND SORT OF SWITCHING THE DRIVEWAY OVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE SPACES, WHICH ARE SORT OF DIMENSION HERE ARE RATHER NARROW. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE SAME THING ACROSS THE STREET. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE SAME THING ON FRAZIER OR ON EVEN ON VILLARD. 
          AND, UH, UM, AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO DO THE EXTENSION HERE WERE, UM, AGAIN, WELL WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE MAINTAINING THE SCALE OF THE SPACES BETWEEN THE HOUSES. 
          AND I ALSO, UM, KIND OF CALLED OUT 
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THE, UM, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF THEM ARE PRETTY MUCH ON THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          I MEAN, THAT WAS THE ONLY PRAGMATIC, RATIONAL THING TO DO FOR THESE BUILDERS WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY BUILD THESE HOUSES. 
          YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, THEY ARE ALL RIGHT IN THE CORNER OF THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE WHY WOULDN'T THEY? THERE WAS NO REASON TO HAVE ANY SETBACK BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD HAVE ANY PRACTICAL USE FOR IT. 
          AND PLACING ALL THESE STRUCTURES IN THE CORNERS ALLOWED THEM TO HAVE A, UM, A, A USABILITY FOR, FOR THE YARD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS WHY WE FEEL THAT HAVING THAT POOL SHED ON THAT LINE THERE, UM, IS JUST SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, IN KEEPING WITH THAT SAME APPROACH. 
          UM, NOW, UM, HERE'S, HERE'S A, UH, UM, ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE AN ENCLOSED PORCH. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE, YOU SAY, WELL, WHY WOULD YOU SUDDENLY HAVE THIS GLAZED, ENCLOSED STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT? UM, IT IS IN FACT MUCH LESS UNUSUAL THAN ONE WOULD THINK. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST PICTURE IS 18 ELM, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, AND IT HAS A COMBINATION OF THE CLOSED PORCH AND AN OPEN PORCH. 
          SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 19 FRAZIER, WHICH IS THE NEXT BLOCK OVER, AND IT HAS A FULLY ENCLOSED PORCH. 
          UM, 22 ELM LONG TIME AGO, ALSO USED TO HAVE AN ENCLOSED PORCH. 
          AND TODAY THAT PORCH HAS LIKE MANY OTHER PORCHES, IS NOT ENCLOSED ANYMORE. 
          UM, YOU COULD ALSO SAY THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SORT OF THE ONE STORY PORCH IS KIND OF THE, THE NORM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY TRUE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PORCHES THAT HAVE A SECOND FLOOR AND SOME OF THESE PORCHES, FOR EXAMPLE, 33 ELM OR 41 A, UM, FRAZIER ACTUALLY HAVE A SECOND FLOOR EXTENSION ON TOP OF THE FIRST FLOOR PORCH. 
          THERE IS A LITTLE BUMP OUT ON TOP OF THE FIRST FLOOR PORCH. 
          SO, SO IT'S THERE. 
          SO THERE IS REALLY A VARIATION WITHIN EVEN THIS SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD OF HOW THESE PORCHES LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, I WENT ALSO, UM, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, FEW OTHER, UH, SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE VILLAGE JUST SO THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO ILLUSTRATE THIS POINT. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE HOUSES HERE WITH ORIGINAL ENCLOSED PORCHES ON MOUNT HOPE, ON FARRAGUT, ON TRUANCY, ON JEFFERSON. 
          THIS ACTUALLY IS A NEWLY ENCLOSED PORCH ON JEFFERSON. 
          IT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS ONE ENCLOSED BAY AND TWO, UM, OPEN BAYS. 
          THERE IS EXAMPLES ON MAPLE RIGHT HERE THAT HAVE ENCLOSED PORCHES NEXT TO OPEN PORCHES. 
          AND UH, UM, AND HERE'S AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, IT'S REALLY, UM, SORRY. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY FUN. 
          THIS IS A PICTURE FROM HASTINGS HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THIS IS HOW THE STREET LOOKED LIKE, UM, IN ABOUT 1914 AND, UH, UM, IN 1914, THIS IS THE HOUSE. 
          THIS IS 11 ELM. 
          IT ACTUALLY HAD TWO STORIES AND TWO RAILINGS OF PORCHES. 
          15 ELM HAD THE SAME, IT ALSO HAD THE WIDOW'S WALK. 
          AND THIS WAS HOW, HOW IT ALL STARTED. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS HOUSE, THERE IS ANOTHER HOUSE HERE, WHICH IS A 26 HOP KEY, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO 11 ELM AND WAS BUILT AT THE VERY SIMILAR TIME. 
          AND TODAY IT, IT IS FULLY ENCLOSED. 
          I WORKED ON THAT HOUSE, SO I DID THAT ALL I KNOW. 
          UM, SO THIS IS TO SAY THAT CHANGE HAPPENS OVER THE DECADES. 
          THINGS DON'T STAY THE SAME, THINGS DO CHANGE. 
          AND AS LONG AS THAT CHANGE IS, YOU KNOW, NOT DETRIMENTAL, THEN UM, WE FEEL THAT, UM, IT IS, UH, UM, PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE TO MAKE CHANGES AND SORT OF GO WITH, UM, A, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VARIATION ON, ON THE EXISTING PURCHASE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I'M GETTING TO THE PART WHERE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKING IN THE REQUIRED YARD AND PAVING IN A REQUIRED YARD. 
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SO, UM, THIS IS NOT TERRIBLY COMPLICATED. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IS RIGHT NOW THE OWNERS PARK IN THE REQUIRED YARD ON THE EAST SIDE, AND WE ARE INTENDING TO INSTEAD PARK IN THE REQUIRED YARD ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A SORT OF A FLIP OF THE SAME SETUP. 
          IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UM, PART OF THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE TWO VERY LARGE MAPLES AND A, UH, ROW OF CEDARS, WHICH CREATE A TALL GREEN WALL BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE NEXT PROPERTY, WHICH IS 600 BROADWAY. 
          YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. 
          AND RIGHT BEHIND THAT GREEN WALL, 600 BROADWAY HAS THEIR PARKING AREA. 
          UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, THERE IS REALLY NO, UM, THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING THAT, THAT WOULD SOMEHOW, UM, BE DR A DRAMATIC NEGATIVE IMPACT ONTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, NEIGHBORING HOUSE BECAUSE THEIR DRIVEWAY IS THERE AS WELL AND THERE IS A REALLY MASSIVE GREEN SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          UM, THE TRUTH IS KIND OF THE OPPOSITE IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BETWEEN 11 AND 15 NOW, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE TWO DRIVEWAYS RIGHT NOW ARE HAPPENING SIDE BY SIDE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY PUTS TWO OR THREE CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A MINI PARKING LOT, WHICH IS REALLY NOT GREAT. 
          AND SO IF WE GIVE UP USE OF THIS DRIVEWAY AND SWITCH IT OVER, THIS ACTUALLY BECOMES SORT OF MORE PLEASANT FOR EVERYBODY. 
          UM, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ABOUT PAVING IN THE REQUIRED YARD. 
          IT'S KIND OF OBVIOUS WE'RE, UM, ENLARGING THE FRONT ACCESS. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE WALKWAY, WE'RE MAKING IT A LITTLE WIDER. 
          THEN WE HAVE, UM, A, UH, UM, PART OF THE POOL, WHICH IS, UH, BASICALLY, UM, INTO THE, UM, SIDE YARD. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, UM, PART OF THE, UM, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE PATIO BULL CURBING AND FRONT WALKWAY. 
          SO WE HAVE PART OF THE, UM, PATIO IN THE, UM, SIDE YARD. 
          I THINK IT'S PART OF THIS PATIO HERE IS IN THIS SIDE YARD. 
          UM, AND THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TOPIC I NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE SWIMMING POOL. 
          SO, UM, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL. 
          THERE IS THE YARD, UM, IS, HAS BASICALLY, UM, A, A GOOD SIZE. 
          IT'S, UM, THIS LOT IS 7,500 SQUARE FEET VERSUS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING LOTS, WHICH ARE 5,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO THERE IS SPACE, UM, BECAUSE THE VEGETABLE GARDEN GOES INTO THE SORT OF THE SUNNY SOUTH CORNER. 
          THEN BY DEFAULT THE POOL GOES NEXT TO IT. 
          THE POOL IS MEANT TO BE A LAP POOL SO THAT THEY COULD SWIM LAPS IF THEY INVEST IN HAVING A POOL, THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE LONG ENOUGH SO THEY COULD SWIM UP AND DOWN. 
          SO THAT'S 40 FEET OF LENGTH, UH, WHICH IS KIND OF A MINIMUM FOR LAPS SWIMMING. 
          AND UH, UM, AND THEN NEXT TO THE POOL THERE IS A BLUESTONE PATIO, WHICH IS SORT OF A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE DECK AND THE POOL. 
          AND, UH, UM, THESE, THIS, THIS ENTIRE POOL SET UP REQUIRES THREE VARIANCES, WHICH IS, UM, UM, THE DISTANCE OF THE POOL FROM THE REAR LINE AND FROM THE SIDELINE. 
          UM, ON THIS PROPERTY, IT WOULD NOT BE REALISTIC TO AIM FOR THE 20 FOOT SETBACK BECAUSE THEN THE, YOU KNOW, POOL WOULD BE SOMEWHERE WHERE WE HAVE THE DECK IN THE KITCHEN. 
          SO, UM, THE POOL IS POSITIONED WHERE YOU CAN JUST ABOUT WALK AROUND AND WE CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, ERECT A NEW FENCE. 
          AND THEN IN FRONT OF THE FENCE WE CAN HAVE PLANTINGS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THAT SIDE OF THE POOL, WHICH IS WHY THE POOL IS ONLY SEVEN FEET FROM THE, FROM THE LINES. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE POOL SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN 6% OF THE LOT AREA. 
          AND WE'RE AT 6.67%, SO WE'RE OH 0.67% ABOVE THE ALLOWED POOL SIZE. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE LAP SWIMMING AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE 
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THE LENGTHS WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE LAP SWIMMING. 
          UM, I ALSO MADE A SCHEMATIC THAT JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH AFTER WE DO ALL OF THIS, HOW MUCH REALLY GREEN SPACE THERE STILL IS AND HOW GREEN THIS LOT STILL IS. 
          UH, WE HAVE THIS ROW OF TREES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. 
          WE HAVE ALL THIS GREEN AREA HERE COMING DOWN, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE TREE IN THE FRONT AND WE WILL PLANT A SECOND TREE IN THE FRONT TO UM, SORT OF STAY WITH THIS VERY GREEN AREA. 
          THIS IN A NUTSHELL, THIS LOT HAS SO MANY MORE TREES THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S LIKE A SMALL BOTANICAL GARDEN. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COVERAGE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE COVERING THE LOT WITH CONCRETE, WE'RE JUST COVERING IT WITH THE NATURAL FEATURES, WHICH ARE THE POOL AND THE BLUESTONE PATIO. 
          UM, AND THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AND THEN WE'LL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN BOARD WILL DISCUSS SOME MORE. 
          UM, I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S A LARGE NUMBER OF VARIANCES, SO, UM, IF IT'S OKAY WITH MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, I, I KIND OF BROKE THEM UP INTO TRANCHES SIMILAR TO YOURS. 
          AND, UH, IF WE CAN MAYBE JUST TAKE THEM IN THOSE PIECES, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE PIECES AND THEN MOVE ON. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THE FIRST PIECE IS THE ADDITION. 
          UH, AND THIS RELATES TO VARIANCE NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS BUILDING STORIES. 
          UH, YOU LUMPED IN THERE WHEN YOU SPOKE, UM, A COUPLE OF THE BULK COVERAGES, UH, FAR AND UM, BUILDING COVERAGE. 
          BUT I'M GONNA PUT ALL THE BULK COVERAGES IN A DIFFERENT BOX. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS JUST ON THE PROPOSED ADDITION AND THE RESULTING VARIANCE TO NUMBER OF STORIES? I CAN, I CAN START. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE CURRENT USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE AND WHAT IS THE PROPOSED USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE? SO, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART HERE, UM, YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWER UNDER THE FAR NUMBERS. 
          UM, JUST GET THERE. 
          UM, I, SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT NOW HERE IS THE FAR, THERE IS THE FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR AND THE ATTIC, AND IT ADDS UP TO 2,168 SQUARE FEET. 
          AND THEN, UM, AFTER WE DO THE ADDITION AND, UM, CHANGE THE ATTIC, WE'RE AT 3,548 SQUARE FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AND WHAT ARE THEIR PROPOSED NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS? SO THERE IS TWO BEDROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THE PROPOSED NUMBER IS THREE BEDROOMS. HOW MANY BATH, HOW MANY BEDROOMS IN THE WHOLE HOUSE RIGHT NOW THOUGH? THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY, SO THERE'S NONE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THERE ARE ROOMS IN THE ATTIC, BUT THOSE ARE NOT BEDROOMS, THEY DON'T HAVE CLOSETS, THEY DON'T COMPLY, UH, WITH BEDROOM REQUIREMENTS. 
          THEY ARE THREE ROOMS. SO THE GOAL IS TO GO FROM A TWO BEDROOM HOUSE TO A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE AND A HOW MANY BATHROOM HOUSE TO A HOW MANY BATHROOM HOUSE? SO, UM, THERE IS A POWDER ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR, TWO BEDROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH REMAIN BATHROOMS, RIGHT? TWO BATHROOMS. SO TWO AND A HALF BATHS, TWO AND A HALF, AND WE'RE ADDING A BATHROOM ON THE ATTIC FLOOR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GOING FROM TWO AND A HALF TO THREE AND A HALF BATHROOMS. OKAY. 
          AND THEN FOR THE PORCH, THE, THE PROPOSED PLAN IS TO FLIP THE PORCH TO GET THE SOUTHEAST MORNING SUN? CORRECT. 
          AND IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PORCH OVERALL CHANGING? UM, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME. 
          UM, THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PORCH IS THE SAME. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THIS PORTION BECOMES THAT WE'RE PROBABLY ADDING A FEW FEET, BUT NOT VERY MANY. 
          IT'S ALMOST THE SAME. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE, IT IS, WAIT, ACTUALLY IT IS POSSIBLE THAT I CAN SEE THERE. 
          UM, YEAH, SO HERE YOU HAVE, THE PORCH NUMBER IS 588 SQUARE FEET AND WE'RE HERE AT 360 3 PLUS 2 93. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO ABOUT 650 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO WE'RE ADDING ABOUT 70 SQUARE FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH ACTUALLY ALSO INCLUDES A STAIRCASE GOING BACK THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, WE'RE GOING FROM, I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE ADDITION. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          I THANK YOU. 
          IT WAS A HELPFUL PRESENTATION. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION AND IT'LL PROBABLY APPLY TO THE 
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OTHER ONES JUST TO HEAR, UM, WHAT KIND OF PLANS YOU CONSIDERED THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE A VARIANCES? NONE. 
          BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, ALL OF THESE LOTS ARE NON-COMPLIANT WITH THE CURRENT CODE. 
          SO ANYTIME ANYBODY DOES AN ADDITION, DOES A NEW DECK, DOES A NEW PATIO, IT ALWAYS ENDS UP BEING A VARIANCE. 
          SO IF YOU, I MEAN, I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE WE DIDN'T TRY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE IS THE, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDABLE ENVELOPE, WHICH, WHICH HAPPENS FROM IN THIS HATCHED AREA RIGHT HERE. 
          AND THE HOUSE IS OUT OF THE BUILDABLE AREA. 
          WE HAVE THE ADDITION FULLY INSIDE THE BUILDABLE AREA AND UH, UM, WE HAVE THE DECK FULLY INSIDE THE BUILDABLE AREA AND THIS PART AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A NON-COMPLIANT PORCH THEN I MEAN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THE FRONT PORCH ARE CURRENTLY NON-COMPLIANT. 
          SO ANYTHING WE DO WITH THAT REQUIRES A VARIANCE. 
          AND THEN WE REALLY ARE JUST LOOKING AT THIS POD HERE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDABLE AREA, WHICH IS ONE SHED AND THE POOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS ON THE ADDITION AND THE STORIES. 
          UM, BRETT, YOU, YOU INCLUDED THE ENCLOSED PORCH, SORRY. 
          NO, WHICH IS FINE. 
          SO I'M GONNA ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT TOO. 
          YOU, YOU, YOU'VE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH IN SOME CONTEXT. 
          YOU'VE CALLED THAT A WRAPAROUND PORCH THAT'S JUST BEEN FLIPPED IN OTHER CONTEXTS. 
          YOU CALLED IT AN ACCESSORY BUILDING WHEN YOU WERE COMPARING IT TO THE GARAGE. 
          AND IN FACT IT LOOKS MUCH MORE LIKE AN ACCESSORY BUILDING. 
          IT'S SEPARATED FROM THE PORCH AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE BY I'M ASSUMING A MEANINGFUL FOOT, RIGHT? YES. 
          OF THAT 14 INCHES. 
          YES. 
          SO I GUESS, AND, AND I THINK AGAIN, THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY THOROUGH, BUT ARE THERE ANY PRECEDENTS WITH ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK? SO, UM, LET ME ANSWER IT LIKE THIS. 
          UM, I, IF I CALL IT AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, THAT WOULD BE A MISTAKE BECAUSE IT IS FULLY CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE. 
          SO IT IS PART OF THE HOUSE. 
          UM, AND IT IS AN ENCLOSED PORCH. 
          SO, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. 
          WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS A, AS A PORCH, WHICH IS A WRAPAROUND PORCH. 
          AND IT IS, UH, UM, UM, ENCLOSED, WHICH IS WHY I PRESENTED ALL THE OTHER PORCHES IN THE VILLAGE THAT ARE FRONT PORCHES. 
          BUT THEY HAVE AN ENCLOSED PORTION, UH, FAIR TO SAY THE PRIOR PORCH THAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          AND MOST OF THE, THE PRESENT, THE PRECEDENTS YOU PRESENTED, IT WAS A SINGLE PORCH WITH A SINGLE ROOF LINE. 
          YES. 
          AT A SINGLE HEIGHT. 
          AND THEN PARTS OF IT MAY HAVE BEEN ENCLOSED OR UN ENCLOSED, WHEREAS THIS IS A STANDALONE STRUCTURE WITH A SEPARATE ROOF LINE, WHICH AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPLIT HAIRS ON WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT, BUT IT, IT IN MY MIND IS NOT QUITE THE SAME. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IN CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE HAVE, UH, UM, ASKED OURSELVES THAT SAME QUESTION, LIKE HOW, HOW IS THIS PORCH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MEANT TO BE ANOTHER GARDENING AREA AND A SORT OF A CONSERVATORY, UM, SORT OF MESH WITH THE HOUSE AND HOW, UM, HOW IS IT GOING TO BLEND WITH THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS RENDERING HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED. 
          HOWEVER, SINCE THEN WE CAME UP WITH A SECOND OPTION, WHICH, UM, MAINTAINS THE SLOPE OF THE ROOF AND MAINTAINS THE WRAPAROUND FEELING OF THE PORCH AND UH, UM, LITERALLY BLENDS WITH THE ORIGINAL PORCH AND IT'S A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE ORIGINAL PORCH. 
          SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING YOU COULD REALLY VIEW AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ANY LONGER. 
          IT REALLY IS A PORCH THAT HAS BEEN PARTIALLY ENCLOSED. 
          AND IS THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED? THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT SET OF DRAWINGS? WE'RE SEEING THE ONE ON THE RIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME RIGHT NOW. 
          YES. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED FOR A, UM, THREE FOOT VARIANCE BECAUSE INSTEAD OF EIGHT FEET, WE PROVIDED FIVE FEET OF A SPACE BETWEEN THE PORCH AND THE LOT LINE. 
          AND UH, WE HAVE DECIDED TO PULL BACK ON THAT AND, UH, UM, 
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UM, CHANGE THE DIMENSIONS SOMEWHAT, UM, AND GO WITH A, UH, UM, SPACE OF SIX AND A HALF FEET INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET, UM, IN THE EIGHT FOOT SETBACK. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF A THREE FOOT VARIANCE, WE NEED A ONE AND A HALF FEET 18 INCH VARIANCE. 
          IN THIS CLOSEUP YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, WE HAVE GIVEN UP ON THAT SEPARATION AND WE HAVE A STRUCTURE WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY A, A ADJACENT AND ATTACHED TO THE BOTH THE DINING ROOM AND THE FRONT PORCH. 
          UM, THIS REALLY SHOULD NOT BE THERE. 
          THIS WAS A SORT OF A LAST MINUTE EFFORT. 
          THIS IS JUST A CONTINUOUS SPACE. 
          OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A LINET? YEAH, WE DON'T, THE LITTLE GREEN STUFF SHOULDN'T BE THERE. 
          THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS PORCH GOES TO THE ENCLOSED PORCH AND THEN THE ENCLOSED PORCH STARTS. 
          I SEE. 
          AND UH, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE EIGHT FOOT SETBACK AND, UM, THE SETBACK FOR THE STRUCTURE IS NOW SIX AND A HALF FEET INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET. 
          SO THE VARIANCE IS ONE AND A HALF FOOT INSTEAD OF THREE FEET, EXCEPT FOR THE STAIRCASE, WHICH STILL REQUIRES A, UH, THREE FOOT VARIANCE BECAUSE WE FEEL WE NEED TO ALLOW SPACE FOR MECHANICAL UNITS IN THE REAR. 
          AND SO THIS LITTLE STAIRCASE STILL SORT OF JUGS OUT A LITTLE BIT AND COMES TO WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          AND I REALIZED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN, BUT, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ASK THE QUESTION OF HOW IS THIS A PORCH VERSUS SOME OTHER STRUCTURE OR BUILDING AND UH, UM, AND THIS IS WHY WE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THIS, UH, WITH THIS VARIATION OF, OF HAVING EVERYTHING UNDER THE SAME ROOF, BUT PART OF THE ROOF IS GLAZED AND PART OF THE PORCH IS ENCLOSED. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT UP TO THE COMMENTING PART, BUT I, I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY THAT IS MORE CONTEXTUALLY PORCHED THAN THE ORIGINAL ONE. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO IN TERMS OF SEEING NEW INFORMATION, UM, SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD VOTE ON RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT THE BOARD'S PRACTICE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE LAST MINUTE PLANS AT THE SAME MEETING BECAUSE WE WANT THE BOARD TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOROUGHLY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUBMISSION DEADLINES IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. 
          YES, YES. 
          THIS CAME UP FROM VERY RECENT CONVERSATIONS AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO RESUBMIT IT AND HAVE YOU CONSIDER IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE AND WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE DISCUSSION WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT YOU MIGHT BENEFIT FROM THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE TODAY AND COME BACK WITH THIS OR POTENTIALLY OTHER CHANGES AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          IT'S UP TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE AT THE END. 
          UM, OKAY, SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ENCLOSED PORCH. 
          UM, THE NEXT ONE I HAVE ON MY LIST IS THE POOL, AND THAT INCLUDES VARIOUS PARTS OF VARIANCE, 1, 2, 3, 4, AND EIGHT. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE PAVING, WHICH IS A CONTRIBUTOR TO SIDE YARD SETBACK, REAR YARD SETBACK, POOL LOT COVERAGE. 
          UM, AND THEN I GUESS THE SHED IS KIND OF A, LET'S TAKE THE SHED OUT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          1, 2, 3, AND FOUR. 
          UM, AND, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POOL PART OF THIS? WHILE YOU'RE THINKING , I'M HAVING TROUBLE LOOKING AT THE POOL IN ISOLATION FROM EVERYTHING ELSE, TO BE HONEST IS, SO I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POOL. 
          I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT NOT, SO IF YOU WANNA STAY ON THE POOL, THEN MY ANSWER IS NO, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, OKAY. 
          GENERALLY THE BACKYARD AND THEN JUST A LEVEL SETTING QUESTION. 
          THERE ARE NO OTHER POOLS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO, UM, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ASKED OURSELVES THAT SAME QUESTION AND UH, UM, WE HAVE AN ANSWER. 
          UM, IS THIS NEW INFORMATION THAT WE'RE, THIS IS A LIST OF JUST GO BACK TO THE MICROPHONE AND THEN SAY WHAT YOU WERE GONNA SAY. 
          . 
          YES. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, UM, WE HAVE LOOKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UH, WE HAVE FOUND, UM, THAT, UM, HAVING A POOL IS PRETTY POPULAR AND THERE'S A LIST OF POOLS THAT EXIST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THIS ISN'T THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL ALONG THE SAME STUDY THAT YOU JUST DID FOR THE, THE CHARACTER OF THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD? 
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CORRECT. 
          ARE THERE ANY POOLS IN THAT AREA? NO, NOT IN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT ON OWN PLACE OR ON FRAZIER. 
          SO THERE'S SOME IN THE VICINITY, BUT NOT IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT. 
          THESE ARE INS, IT'S IN THE, BASICALLY THE VICINITY OF RIVERVIEW MANOR, WHICH IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THIS PART OF HASTINGS THAT HAPPENS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE POOL? THAT'S IT. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT POOL QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, I'M, I'M SEARCHING FOR CAN, CAN I SAY SOMETHING ELSE JUST VERY BRIEFLY? WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT ARE EXCITED THAT THERE WILL BE A POOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL, I WOULD BE EXCITED IF MY NEIGHBOR HAD A POOL TOO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING . 
          UM, WELL AGAIN, I MEAN, ALL JOKES ASIDE, THE WE WE OFTEN WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE ZONING INTENT. 
          SO THE SETBACKS, UH, IN THE ZONING FOR POOLS ARE INTENDED FOR I, I BELIEVE TWO PURPOSES. 
          ONE, TO LIMIT THE VISIBILITY OF POOLS TO OTHER PROPERTIES AND ALSO THE NOISE, RIGHT? SO THAT LIMIT OF, OF SIDE SETBACK, REAR ARE SETBACK. 
          ALL OF THAT IS TO BRING THE POOL CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT'S GOING TO BOTHER YOUR NEIGHBORS LESS. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC YET, BUT YOU ARE STATING THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE IN SUPPORT. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT MAY BE AN ANSWER THERE. 
          BUT I GUESS I'M WONDERING TO THE EARLIER QUESTION OF CAN WE, DO YOU NEED ALL OF THESE VARIANCES? SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU, YOU MENTIONED WANTING 40 FEET AND THAT SEEMS REASONABLE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD SLIDE THE POOL OVER JUST A, A FEW FEET AND NOT NEED THE SIDE YARD VARIANCE, ONLY NEED THE REAR YARD VARIANCE. 
          WHAT WOULD THAT CHANGE? IT MIGHT TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE AT THE RIGHT OF THAT, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED. 
          AND THEN I THINK THIS IS A LITTLE PREVIEW OF MY QUESTIONS AROUND ALL OF THE BULK ZONING QUESTIONS. 
          SO COVERAGE, FAR DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE, AND IN THIS CASE POOL COVERAGE. 
          A LOT OF TIMES, UM, THIS, THIS BOARD CONSIDERS, UM, RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE ZONING CODE BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN SOME CASES THE ZONING CODE WAS IMPOSED ON PROPERTIES LONG AFTER THEY WERE BUILT, RIGHT? AND THAT'S TRUE, BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE PICTURE PERFECT R SEVEN AND A HALF ZONING LOT. 
          YOU HAVE 7,500 SQUARE FEET, YOU ARE 75 BY 100. 
          DEEP IN THAT, UM, PICTURE THAT YOU SHOWED, UH, THE STUDY THAT YOU THEY SHOWED, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL, YOU'RE ONE OF ONLY TWO OR THREE PROPERTIES THAT ARE COMPLIANT. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT YOU NOTED HAD MORE COVERAGE OR MORE FAR, THEY WERE UNDERSIZED LOTS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE AN UNDERSIZED LOT. 
          SO MY QUESTION AS RELATED TO FOUR POOL LOT COVERAGE IS WHY, WHY WOULDN'T WE ASK THESE OWNERS TO MAKE A 6% POOL? THEY COULD STILL HAVE 40 FEET OF LENGTH. 
          THEY MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE TWO OR THREE INCHES OFF THE WIDTH TO MAKE THAT DI MINIMIS CHANGE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FULL SIZE LOT. 
          THE ZONING SAYS YOU CAN HAVE A POOL OF 6%. 
          WHY ISN'T THAT A POSSIBILITY HERE? DO YOU MIND IF I ADD TO THAT REALLY QUICKLY JUST TO PUT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ROLE IN CONTEXT? SO IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT AREA VARIANCES, IT'S A BALANCING TEST SET BY STATUTE. 
          YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE BENEFIT TO THE APPLICANT AGAINST ANY HEALTH OR ANY DETRIMENT TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          IN DOING SO, THERE'S FIVE FACTORS AND THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES AS WELL AS THE, THE MAGNITUDE OF VARIANCES REALLY PLAY INTO THREE OF THOSE FIVE. 
          THE SECOND IS WHETHER THE BENEFIT SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME METHOD FEASIBLE, FEASIBLE FOR THE OTHER THAN THE AREA VARIANCE. 
          SO TO YOUR POINT, CAN THEY ACHIEVE THEIR LAP POOL REASONABLY THROUGH SOME OTHER METHOD THAT REQUIRES EITHER NO OR A SMALLER VARIANCE? UH, THE THIRD FACTOR IS WHETHER THE VARIANCES ARE SUBSTANTIAL. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIALITY IN TERMS OF IMPACT, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF THE VARIANCES. 
          HOW LARGE ARE THOSE VARIANCES? HOW MANY ARE BEING REQUESTED? AGAIN, CAN THEY BE MADE SMALLER TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS. 
          AND THE FIFTH OBVIOUSLY IS WHETHER THEY'RE SELF-CREATED, YOU KNOW, ARE, IS THERE A, A NEED BECAUSE OF SITE CONDITIONS THAT DICTATE THE VARIANCES OR ARE THEY BECOMING, OR ARE THEY, UH, FROM, UH, DESIGN CHOICES? SO THIS KIND OF JUST PLAYS INTO THIS DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. 
          YES. 
          SO CAN I, SHOULD I SAY A FEW WORDS? OKAY. 
          SO YES, WE, UM, DEFINITELY WANTED TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF, OF, UM, HOW DO THE NEIGHBORS FEEL OR HOW CAN THEY LIVE WITH THIS POOL? SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO ERECT A FULL HEIGHT WOODEN FENCE, UM, IN FRONT OF THE FENCE. 
          WE'RE SHOWING ON THE PLANTING PLANT THAT WE WILL PLANT FULL HEIGHT, UH, UH, SHRUBS. 
          SO THAT WILL PREVENT ANY, UM, VIEWS AND IT WILL MITIGATE ANY NOISE. 
          IN ADDITION, 
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ON THE TWO SIDES OF THE POOL, THERE ARE STILL TWO EXISTING GARAGE BUILDINGS. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS NO DIRECT TRANSMISSION OF NOISE OR VIEWS TO THE EAST OR WEST BECAUSE THERE IS TWO DOUBLE GARAGES ON EITHER END, YOU KNOW, SO WE FEEL THAT, UM, THIS POOL DOES ACTUALLY EXIST WITHIN A PROTECTED AND PRIVATE SPACE. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, UM, UM, ESTABLISHING THE SIZE AND THE LOCATION OF THE POOL, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE HOMEOWNERS DID RESEARCH AND LOOKED AT OTHER POOLS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILY HAS, THEIR FRIENDS HAVE, THEY DID A SORT OF A CAREFUL GOING OVER SIMILAR POOLS AND, AND ENDED UP, UM, ESTABLISHING A DIMENSION THAT THEY FEEL IS, YOU KNOW, WORTH IT, THAT ONCE THEY BUILD THIS POOL, THEN IT WILL ACTUALLY FUNCTION THE WAY, UM, IT SHOULD, AND IT WILL BE COMFORTABLE AND IT WILL SERVE THE PURPOSE OF THE KIDS PLAYING AND THE GROWNUPS SWIMMING AND ALL THAT. 
          SO YES, IT COULD BE SMALLER, BUT WOULD ANYBODY REALLY BENEFIT FROM THE POOL BEING SMALLER? I WOULD SAY NO. 
          IT'S, IT COULD BE MAYBE LESS WIDE, BUT WHAT IS REALLY GAINED BY THAT, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WOULD BE A BETTER COMPLIANCE, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE ANYBODY WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT, YOU KNOW? AND IN TERMS OF LOCATION, YES, IT COULD BE MOVED OVER TO THE SIDE, BUT IT'S A SORT OF A SIMILAR IMPACT. 
          WE LOSE SOME OF THE VEGETABLE GARDEN IN THE SORT OF A PRECIOUS, SUNNY AREA, AND WHAT DO WE GAIN? WE GAIN AN EMPTY SPACE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SIDE, WHICH IS SHADED BY THE HOUSE AND BY THE NEIGHBOR'S GARAGE, AND NOTHING REALLY HAS BEEN GAINED, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU PUT YOURSELF IN A MIND OF A BUILDER IN 1914, THAT WOULD BE A VERY ILLOGICAL AND IMPRACTICAL THING TO DO. 
          PEOPLE WERE PRAGMATIC ABOUT HOW THEY COULD GET MOST OUT OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH IS THE WAY WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS. 
          HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THAT LOT? IF I MAY, I THINK THE CONSIDERATION WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT THE PATIO AND THE DECK COULD BE MADE A LITTLE SMALLER SO THEY CAN PULL THE POOL IN CLOSER TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK VARIANCE. 
          AND IF I THINK WHAT'S, WHAT, JUST CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT, BUT WHAT'S CON SO I, I FULLY, I, I THINK THE AMBITION OF THE PRODUCT IS BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK THE DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK THE PEOPLE SEEM VERY NICE AND I DON'T THINK ANYTHING THEY'RE ASKING FOR ACTUALLY, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WANTING TO GO FROM TWO TO THREE BATHROOMS. THE BEDROOMS WANTING TO GO FROM TWO AND A HALF BATHROOM, NOTHING IS OUTRAGEOUS. 
          I THINK WHAT I'M, AND WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH THOUGH IS LOOKING AT THESE THINGS IN ISOLATION BECAUSE I THINK IN TOTALITY, THESE JUST DON'T COMPLY WITH ZONING AND CODE. 
          AND SO WE ARE NOW BEING ASKED TO PICK THIS APART AS A BOARD. 
          AND I'M KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED A PROPOSAL THAT IS LESS SUBSTANTIAL. 
          I MEAN, HAVE YOU COME BEFORE THE BOARD ASKING FOR 12 VARIANCES BEFORE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. 
          WELL, I HAVE COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD ASKING FOR VARIANCES FOR 21 ELEMENT, 22 ELEMENTS. 
          OH, I MEAN, HAVE YOU ASKED FOR 12 VARIANCES AT THE SAME TIME FOR A PROJECT BEFORE FROM THE ZONING BOARD? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT IS THAT TO ME, IN THIS IDEA OF SUBSTANTIAL, I THINK WE HAVE DEFINED, YOU SAID THIS IS AN ASTONISHINGLY LONG LIST, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE DEFINED THAT THIS IS SUBSTANTIAL. 
          AND SO, AND, AND A LOT OF IT IS SELF-IMPOSED. 
          I, I MEAN, I GET, I WON EAST LIGHT FOR MY VEGETABLE GARDEN TOO. 
          THAT'S NOT A CRAZY REQUEST, BUT THE 40 FOOT LAP POOL NEXT TO THE VEGETABLE GARDEN IS SELF-IMPOSED. 
          I, I JUST WANNA BE DIRECT ABOUT IT. 
          SO I'M STRUGGLING WITH LIKE, GOING THROUGH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DESIGN THE PROJECT WITH YOU ALL OR VALIDATE WHICH AMBITION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANOTHER. 
          THAT'S FOR YOU AND THE OWNERS TO WORK OUT TOGETHER. 
          YES. 
          AND IN TOTALITY, THEY ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE ZONING CODE OF HASTINGS, AND NOW WE'RE BEING ASKED TO TAKE THINGS IN ISOLATION AND LOOK AT THEM. 
          AND I, I THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, AND I DON'T WANNA REDESIGN THIS PROJECT FOR EVERYBODY, NOR DO I THINK THAT ANYTHING IN ISOLATION IS OUTRAGEOUS. 
          BUT I, I THINK I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, WE, WE MOVE FORWARD LOOKING AT EACH OF THESE BECAUSE I THINK WE, WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE AND MOST OF THEM WOULD NOT MEET THE FIVE FACTORS. 
          SO I, THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH AND THAT'S FAIR THAT BE DIRECT ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE AND TO BE, AND TO BE FAIR TO THE APPLICANT TIME, I, I BROKE THEM UP SO THAT I KNOW. 
          SO THAT'S NOT, I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU. 
          I LOVE THE JOSH. 
          NO, NO, NO, BUT I JUST, I'M SAYING LIKE, I, I DON'T KNOW, I WE CAN BREAK 'EM UP, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          IT'S NOT, IF WE WERE, IF YOU GUYS WERE COMING TO US AND SAYING YOU WANTED A THREE EIGHT, YOU WANNA GO FROM TWO BEDROOMS TO THREE BEDROOMS, YOU WANNA GO FROM, I'M LIKE, WE'RE ON BOARD FOR EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY IN A LOT OF WAYS. 
          IN MANY, THERE'S MANY PRECEDENTS FOR THAT. 
          IT'S THE FACT THAT YOU'RE COMING 
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WITH 12 VARIANCES AND IT BASICALLY JUST IN SUMMATION MEANS THIS PROJECT IS NOT COMPLYING WITH THE CODE OF THE VILLAGE. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND I, SO WHAT ARE WE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO ADD AGAIN, JUST AGAIN, AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS, IT'S, IT'S MORE VARIANCES THAN ANY OF US HAVE EVER SEEN. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT GIVEN THAT IT'S A FULLY COMPLIANT LOT. 
          SO WHAT GENERATES THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE VARIANCES THAT COME BEFORE US ARE UNDERSIZED LOTS, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, WE CAN GO BACK TO YOUR CHART AND THE, THERE WAS ONE OTHER LOT THAT WAS 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND ONE THAT WAS MAYBE 72 OR 7,500, AND BOTH OF THOSE HAD VERY SMALL COVERAGE. 
          ONLY THE ONES THAT HAD SIMILAR OR MORE COVERAGE WERE THE 5,500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. 
          AND THAT'S THE KIND OF ARGUMENT THAT WE MOST SEE. 
          OR YOU HAVE A FULLY COMPLIANT LOT, BUT IT'S HASTINGS AND HALF OF IT IS TOO STEEP TO BUILD ON. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. 
          SO THE FEEDBACK YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE BOARD, AND WE SHOULD PAUSE AND, AND TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE PUBLIC IS ONE THAT IT'S A LOT OF VARIANCES AND TWO, THAT IT'S SURPRISING THAT IT'S A COMPLIANT LOT. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, WE CERTAINLY ARE LOOKING FOR THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD. 
          THIS IS PARTIALLY WHILE WE'RE HERE TO HAVE, OF COURSE, TO HAVE IT APPROVED, BUT ALSO TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND TO SEE WHAT THE BOARD FEEL IS THE RIGHT THING, YOU KNOW. 
          UM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE FEEL THAT, UM, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING MAKES SENSE AND EVEN THOUGH, UM, UM, THERE ARE OTHER EVEN MORE CHALLENGING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD, THIS IS STILL, YOU KNOW, A, UH, UM, A 1914 PROPERTY AND A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING WILL JUST NOT COMPLY. 
          AND, UH, UM, UM, I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE LITTLE PART IN THIS CHART, WHICH IS, UM, ABOUT THE COVERAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT, UM, THE REQUIRED COVERAGE RIGHT NOW IS 40%. 
          THE CURRENT HOUSE IS AT 34%. 
          SO THE CURRENT HOUSE IS BELOW THE, UH, REQUIRED COVERAGE, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR 46, UM, 83%. 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S THIS ONE LITTLE PART THAT SAYS THAT THE POOL AND THE PATIO ADD UP TO 14%. 
          SO IT IS NOT THAT WE'RE DOING SO MANY NONCOMPLIANT THINGS ALL OVER THE PLACE, IT, IT SORT OF COMES DOWN TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT SWIMMING POOL. 
          UM, BECAUSE UH, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SWIMMING POOL AND THE PATIO THAT GOES WITH IT, THE COVERAGE WOULD ACTUALLY BE BELOW 40% AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY COMPLY. 
          SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT, I JUST WANNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T THINK THAT HELPS YOUR ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOU JUST BASICALLY SAID YOU CAN COMPLY WITH THE ZONING CODE OF THE, THE VILLAGE AND, AND WITHOUT THE POOL. 
          YES. 
          WELL, I'M NOT POOL, I'M, I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO HAVE THE POOL OR NOT HAVE THE POOL. 
          YES. 
          I, I WANT WHAT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHY. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHY EVERY SINGLE, WHEN YOU SAY THE PROJECT MAKES SENSE, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE OF THE VILLAGE AND YOU'RE IN A COMPLIANT LOT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, NOT THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS LOVELY. 
          AND EVERYTHING IN IT IS LOVELY, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA PICK IT APART. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SAY, DO THIS WITH THE POOL OR DO THIS WITH THE DECK, OR DO I, I THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT IS REASONABLE. 
          THAT'S WHERE I AM. 
          I JUST THINK WE ARE AT A PLACE WHERE IT IS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY OVER THE TOP IN TERMS OF HOW MANY VARIANCES WERE BEING ASKED TO REVIEW. 
          AND SO LIKE, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES TO THE BENEFITS BEING SOUGHT THAT THAT CAN ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS, WHILE ALSO EITHER ELIMINATING SOME OF THE VARIANCES OR REDUCING THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT BEING REQUESTED. 
          LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IT APPEARS THAT THE POOL IS OVER BY ABOUT 50 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO REDUCE THE POOL BY ABOUT 50 SQUARE FEET? YES. 
          THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THAT VARIANCE. 
          IT'S FINE. 
          SO ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GO FROM 12 TO 11. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU MADE THE PATIO, FOR EXAMPLE, A LITTLE SMALLER, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE YOUR DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE, BUT ALSO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY IMPROVE THE REAR END SETBACK FOR THE POOL. 
          SO THERE ARE DESIGN CHOICES THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE. 
          AGAIN, IT'S YOUR CALL THAT WOULD AGAIN, ELIMINATE OR WOULD IMPROVE SOME OF THE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD IS ASKING YOU TO DO. 
          ALL TRUE. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE DONE AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DISCUSS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME CHANGES. 
          BUT AGAIN, IF IT DOESN'T ADVANCE YOUR, YOUR CLIENT'S GOAL, THEN THE BOARD ISN'T TELLING YOU TO DO IT ANYWAYS. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BALANCING TEST. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          WE WILL ABSOLUTELY TAKE THIS FEEDBACK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE IT. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, SO THAT YOU HAVE FULL FEEDBACK, IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT? OKAY. 
          UH, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR, OH, SOMEBODY IS HERE. 
          YES. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
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GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS ANDREA OLSTEEN. 
          COULD YOU JUST PULL THAT MIC DOWN TO YOU? THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU, STEVEN. 
          HI, MY NAME IS ANDREA OLSTEEN. 
          MY HUSBAND MIKE WINKLEMAN AND I HAVE LIVED IN HASTINGS FOR 40 YEARS. 
          WE'VE RAISED THREE CHILDREN HERE. 
          UM, WE, UM, OUR PROPERTY ABUTS 11 ELM, UM, KIND OF IN THE CORNER, OUR REAR YARD AND THEIR GARAGE PRETTY MUCH ALMOST TOUCH. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, THE ARCHITECT, UM, DID MAKE AN ERROR. 
          SHE SAID THAT, UM, ANY ADDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE MADE, UM, WERE MADE WITH VARIANCES. 
          IN 2000, WE BUILT AN ADDITION TO OUR HOME, UM, TO GIVE OUR TWIN DAUGHTERS AN EXTRA BEDROOM TO ADD ONE AND A HALF BATHS, TWO HOUR, ONE 1200 SQUARE FOOT, ONE BEDROOM HOME WHERE WE WERE LIVING THEN WITH THREE CHILDREN. 
          AND IT WAS AS OF RIGHT. 
          UM, SO JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, UM, I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS, UM, MOST OF WHICH HAVE BEEN KIND OF RAISED BY THE BOARD OR COVERED TANGENT, TANGENTIALLY. 
          UM, ONE MAJOR CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE LOT WILL BE COVERED, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THE WATER TABLE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE HEAVY RAINS, UM, OUR BASEMENT HAS A LOT OF WATER RUSHING THROUGH IT. 
          WE HAVE A FRENCH DRAIN, WE HAVE A SUN PUMP, BUT THAT MAY NOT ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF IT GIVEN CLIMATE CHANGE AND EXTREME WEATHER AND EXTREME. 
          SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, I AM CONCERNED SOMEWHAT ABOUT NOISE FROM PEOPLE IN THE POOL, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THAT, UM, THAT WON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE. 
          I AM WONDERING WHETHER, UM, BLASTING WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE POOL IF IT IS CONSTRUCTED. 
          I DID A LITTLE HOMEWORK TODAY AND, UM, ACCORDING TO THE RESEARCH I DID, UM, GROUNDWATER BEDROCK STARTS AT EIGHT FEET BELOW THE SURFACE AND GOES TO 32 FEET. 
          AND, UM, A LOT OF GROUNDWATER IN THE HUDSON VALLEY AREA IS HELD BY THE CREVICES IN THE BEDROCK. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE NOISE FROM BLASTING IF THAT'S REQUIRED, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO THE WATER TABLE. 
          UM, I'M ALSO INTERESTED TO KNOW, I HAD, WE MET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ON I THINK MONDAY AND, UM, I DIDN'T ASK THIS QUES I THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION TIME WOULD BE, BUT, UM, IT WILL BE VERY NOISY. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT 'CAUSE WE LIVE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, UM, OUR BEDROOM AND ONE HOME OFFICE ARE ON THE WEST SIDE, SO THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE WILL GET THE MOST NOISE EVEN IF WE KEEP THE WINDOWS CLOSED. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE ARCHITECT CAN GIVE US THAT NOW OR MAYBE WAIT UNTIL THEY DECIDE IF THEY'RE GONNA MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLANS, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I, YOU KNOW, I WANTED THE BOARD TO BE AWARE OF AS, UM, NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNER CONCERN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          YEAH, FOR THE RECORD, I CAN GUARANTEE THIS BOARD THERE WILL BE NO BLASTING ALLOWED ON THIS SITE. 
          IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF THEY WERE TO HIT ROCK AND THEY WANTED TO PROCEED FORWARD, IT WOULD BE A DRILLING AND CHIPPING SITUATION. 
          THERE WOULD NEVER BE BLASTING ALLOWED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YEAH, I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL TODAY OUR FOCUS IS ON, UM, THE VARIANCES. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. 
          SHOULD THIS, UM, PROJECT RECEIVE, UM, APPROVAL FOR VARIANCES AND MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS AND THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE VILLAGE'S ENGINEER'S REVIEW OF THE STORM WATER, UM, PLAN. 
          AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. 
          ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC? I DO HAVE TWO LETTERS. 
          ONE I SENT TO THE BOARD TODAY, THE OTHER I, UM, INADVERTENTLY FORGOT TO SEND TO THE BOARD LAST WEEK. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD IF IT'S OKAY. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          UM, THIS CAME IN ON, UH, WEDNESDAY, JULY 22ND, JUST, JUST YESTERDAY. 
          UM, DEAR CHARLES, THIS IS BECCA KAUFMAN AND DAN MENDEL RESIDENCE OF 600 BROADWAY. 
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WE ARE DIRECT NEIGHBORS TO LAURA LINDSTROM AND DEREK TARCI, 11 ELM. 
          AND WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE RE WE'VE REVIEWED THEIR PLANS AND ARE FINE WITH IT. 
          AND FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO DIRECTLY TO US WITH ANY QUESTIONS. 
          AND, UH, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE LETTER FROM TODAY INTO THE RECORD OR EVERYBODY GOT IT? AND IT'S OKAY. 
          OH, I, I READ IT NIGHT. 
          I DID READ IT, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, WHY DON'T YOU JUST READ IT OKAY. 
          TO THE RECORD SO WE HAVE A COMPLETE NO PROBLEM. 
          SO THIS CAME TODAY, THURSDAY, THE 23RD. 
          HELLO. 
          WE ARE WRITING IN REGARD TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT 11 ELM PLACE. 
          WE RESIDE NEXT DOOR AT 15 ELM PLACE, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 11 ELM. 
          DEBBIE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT WITH DEREK TARSI TODAY AND HE TOOK, HE TOOK HER, HER THOUGHTS, HER THROUGH THE OBJECTIVES. 
          WE DISCUSSED OUR RESERVATIONS AND AS IT RELATES TO THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO THE ENCLOSED PORCH, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE CURRENT PLAN START TO GET VERY CLOSE TO OUR PROPERTY LINE. 
          IN DISCUSSIONS WITH DEREK, HE AGREED THAT THEY COULD UPDATE THE PLAN AND BRING IT BACK ANOTHER FOOT. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE SOLUTION AND WOULD HELP. 
          WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE INTENTION ON BRINGING DOWN A LARGE SPRUCE IN THE SIDE YARD IN ORDER TO CREATE LIGHT TO GROW PLANTS. 
          UM, IN THE ENCLOSED PORCH, WE ARE HAPPY TO LEARN THAT, UH, THEY PLAN TO PLANT A TREE IN THE FRONT YARD THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY GROW NICE AND BIG. 
          WHILE WE NEVER LIKE SEEING LARGE TREES COME DOWN, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE REASONING OVERALL. 
          THIS SEEMS LIKE A WORKABLE PLAN AND, AND WE APPRECIATE OUR NEIGHBORS WORKING WITH US TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE ENCLOSED PORCH PLAN. 
          DEBBIE AND SCOTT JONES. 
          THAT'S ALL I RECEIVED, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND NO MORE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, OKAY, SO NORMALLY WE WOULD DISCUSS THE PROJECT NOW AND VOTE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD PREFER TO COME BACK, UH, NEXT MONTH OR WHENEVER IT WORKS FOR YOU. 
          UM, AND SO THEN THE ONLY THING I WOULD OFFER HERE IS IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO ADD ANY MORE COMMENTS, UM, OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY'VE SAID ALREADY IN, IN SORT OF GIVING THEM MORE FEEDBACK OR ANYTHING. 
          I MEAN, I THINK I, I, I LOOK TO YOU JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS RIGHT, BUT I THINK ARYN, BUT I THINK MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WHEN YOU, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE JUST SEEING WHAT WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT 'EM ALL DOWN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET THROUGH. 
          I WANT, I WANT A COMPREHENSIVE PROPOSAL THAT COMES BACK WITH A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF VARIANCES. 
          NO ONE ON THE BOARD IS SAYING THAT WE ARE UNWILLING TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT OR THAT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH ELEMENTS OF IT, BUT I THINK WE NEED A REASONABLE PROPOSAL THAT COM, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS WHERE IT CAN COMPLIES WITH THE CODE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THE TWO BIGGEST ISSUES THAT I'M HAVING OVERALL IS A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER AND, AND A COMBINATION OF THE KIND OF SELF-CREATED AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CODE. 
          AND, AND I DON'T WANT US TO BE IN A POSITION OF, TO GO THROUGH THOSE WITH YOU. 
          I'D RATHER A PROPOSAL COME BACK TO US THAT'S COMPREHENSIVE AND ADDRESSES MANY OF THOSE ISSUES, WHICH I THINK ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO ADDRESS ON MUCH OF THIS SO THAT THE REAL PRIORITIES AND AMBITION AND GOALS OF THE PROJECT THAT REQUIRE VARIANCES, WE CAN JUST MOVE ON SO THAT THEY CAN GET THIS BILL. 
          THAT'S MY PREFERENCE AND I THINK MY KIND OF GENERAL ADVICE, LIKEWISE, I AGREE YOU COVERED TWO OF THE ATTRIBUTES. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO REITERATE A CONCERN ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIALITY OF WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR AS WELL AS, AS WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW THE PROCESS WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT WHETHER ALL OF THIS BUILDING WILL BE A DETRIMENT FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD BE A LITTLE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE THIS IS CONSIDERED A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER SEEKER. 
          SO IT'S PRESUMED TO HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING CODE DOES PUT, UH, LIMITATIONS ON HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION AND WHATNOT. 
          BUT IS A FAIR POINT TO ASK A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WOULD BE HELPFUL IF POSSIBLE. 
          YEAH, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AS IT IS, UM, BUILDING AND TAKING MORE OF THE ACTUAL, UM, GREEN SPACE AND NOW PUTTING PORCH PATIO POOL. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE THE, THE ADDITIONAL AREA. 
          I THINK THE ONLY THING I'D ADD, I MEAN, YOU, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, WE COULD MOVE THE POOL, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BENEFIT US AND WHO WOULD IT HURT? AND, AND, AND TO EXTENT YOU'RE RIGHT, AND, AND THE ATTORNEY REMIND US THIS IS THE BALANCING, BUT I DO WANNA REITERATE THAT BASE ZONING CODE IS OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. 
          THE REASON WHY THIS TOWN VOTED FOR FAR COVERAGE, DEVELOPMENTAL COVERAGE IS BECAUSE BUILT INTO THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE PUBLIC GOOD. 
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UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE HAS TO DO WITH RUNOFF AND DRAINAGE AND ALBEDO AND SUNLIGHT REFLECTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AS AN ARCHITECT AND A LOT OF THE SETBACKS AND THE FAR, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY, UM, ADJACENCY OF PROPERTIES AND POOLS MAKING NOISE. 
          SO AGAIN, ANYTIME WE'RE BEING ASKED TO, UM, PROVIDE RELIEF FROM ZONING, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING FROM A PLACE OF GOING BACK ON ON WHAT WAS THE INTENT. 
          SO I, I JUST THINK THE BASE ZONING, UH, PARAMETERS NEED TO BE GIVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE WEIGHT IN YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THAT ISN'T TO SAY, AS BRETT SAID, THIS IS OUR JOB TO CONSIDER RELIEF FROM THEM, AND WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT FOR A REASONABLE NUMBER, UM, AS, AS HAS BEEN SAID. 
          SO ANYBODY, ANYTHING ELSE? I YES, CAN I? SURE. 
          JUST GONNA SAY FEW WORDS IN A QUESTION. 
          UM, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THIS, UH, UH, THE SUGGESTIONS AND THE POINT OF VIEW AND, AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH LESS OF AN ASK AS WELL AS BASICALLY INCORPORATE SOME OF THE, UM, THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED FROM, UM, DURING THE RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, MAKE CHANGES AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET CLOSER TO WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE. 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO BE CLEAR ON, WHICH IS THAT LOT OF THESE ISSUES HAVE TO DO WITH THE LOT COVERAGE, THE POOL, THE SETBACKS, THE ET CETERA. 
          SO THAT'S LIKE ONE PART. 
          THE OTHER PART WHEN YOU SAY FAR, UM, SO THE, UM, THE VILLAGE DEFINITELY DID WELL IN ADOPTING AN FAR, UH, UM, UH, RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY HAPPENS THAT PEOPLE, UH, BUILD ADDITIONS AND PEOPLE BUILD NEW HOUSES AND THE FAR CAN GET OUT OF HAND AND THE HOUSES JUST GET PLAINLY TOO BIG FOR THIS VILLAGE OR FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, OUR INCREASE IN FAR COMES FROM WORKING WITHIN AN EXISTING ATTIC AND WITHIN AN EXISTING FOOTPRINT. 
          SO I JUST, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS, UH, PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, A DIFFERENT KIND OF AN ISSUE FOR US TO, UH, HAVE A HOUSE THAT HAS AN FAR THAT'S COMPARABLE TO OTHER OLD HOUSES THAT EXIST IN THE VILLAGE VERSUS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING IN BULK AND IT WOULD BE SHOWING AND IT WOULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, INAPPROPRIATELY OVERSIZED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE MORE CL YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE AND UNDERSTANDING. 
          WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT FAR IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING? BECAUSE REALLY THE F SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR IT. 
          YES. 
          UM, AND, AND YOU HAVE THE MOST FAR OF ANYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE LARGEST LOT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE DOING A CONTEXTUAL STUDY, RIGHT, YOU ARE AS OF RIGHT ALLOWED TO BUILD THE LARGEST HOUSE, RIGHT? SO NOW YOU'RE ASKING, I WANNA BUILD THE LARGEST HOUSE AND THEN BIGGER. 
          AND, AND YOU MENTIONED JUST TO ONE OTHER POINT ON FAR, YOU MENTIONED IT WAS A 1% OR SOMETHING. 
          I THINK YOU MENTIONED FAR IS A LITTLE DECEIVING BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE DECIMALS, BUT YOUR FAR VARIANCE OF 736 SQUARE FEET IS APPROXIMATELY 30% OF THE CURRENT HOUSE. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT VARIANCE. 
          IF ONE OF THE FACTORS IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE VARIANCE. 
          SO AGAIN, SOMETIMES WITH FAR THERE'S A CONFUSION BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS, YOU KNOW, ONE 10TH IN THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN. 
          RIGHT? BUT 736 SQUARE FEET IS IN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE MEANING BY THAT ALRIGHTYY. 
          UM, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO COME BACK IN AUGUST? LIKE HOW MUCH, HOW WE HAVE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY TO RESUBMIT? MM-HMM . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          YOU GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE ITEM JUST FOR THE RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, WE HAVE TO DO MINUTES. 
          NO, NO, JUST THIS ITEM IS THAT MOTION. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, SO WE NEED A MOTION TO CARRY THIS, TO ADJOURN, THIS ITEM TO CARRY. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          NO, YOU'RE OKAY. 
          WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND CARRY THIS OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          WOULD YOU MIND SECOND? I SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, NEXT ITEM IS 
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THE, UM, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE MEETING. 
          NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE HAVE, I WASN'T HERE, SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO VOTE IT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN TILL NEXT MONTH. 
          I THINK WE'LL PUSH THAT OVER TO NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OUR NEXT 
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MEETING IS AUGUST 27TH. 
          UM, AGAIN, A REMINDER THAT IN OUR CURRENT CAPACITY, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, MAYBE SAY SOMETHING NOW. 
          I CAN BE HERE, I PROMISE. 
          . 
          YEAH, AUGUST IS USUALLY A TOUGH ONE, SO WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, 
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IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. 
          YOU GOT A 50% CHANCE . 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING'S. 
          DO IT, MR. CHAIR. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MEETING ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU.
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