* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [I. ROLL CALL ] [00:00:02] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WE'RE GONNA, UH, GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND WELCOME. WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR PLANNING BOARD MEETING. HEY PEOPLE, STOP TALKING PLEASE. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU AND WELCOME TO OUR PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF OCTOBER 15TH, 2026. AND MARY ELLEN, CAN WE START WITH THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIRPERSON EVA ALLYGOOD IS ABSENT. ACTING CHAIRPERSON DAVID GUNTON. HERE. BOARD MEMBER RICHARD BASS. HERE. BOARD MEMBER DANIEL BERKOVITZ. HERE. BOARD MEMBER ANJALI CHEN IS ABSENT. BOARD MEMBER PATRICK DIGGINS. HERE. AND BOARD MEMBER LISA SUNBECK KIM IS ABSENT. PLANNING CONSULTANT PATRICK CLEARY. HERE. VILLAGE ATTORNEY LINDA WHITEHEAD. HERE. AND BUILDING INSPECTOR CHARLES MINOZZI. HERE. UH, THANKS VERY MUCH MAYOR, MARY ELLEN AND, AND AS MARY ELLEN MENTIONED, UM, CHAIR ALLENGOOD IS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US HERE THIS EVENING, SO I'LL BE SERVING, UH, AS ACTING CHAIR TONIGHT. UH, A FEW QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED. JUST A QUICK REMINDER ON THE ACOUSTICS IN THIS ROOM, WHICH ARE CHALLENGING. UH, THOSE OF US UP HERE WILL TRY TO REMEMBER TO ALWAYS TALK INTO THE MICROPHONES. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING FROM THE PODIUM, PLEASE REMEMBER TO DO THE SAME. AND IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF CONVERSATION, EVEN WHISPERS REALLY TRAVEL IN THIS ROOM AND CAN BE DISTRACTING. SO PLEASE JUST HOLD YOUR CONVERSATION, UM, WHILE WE'RE IN SESSION AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, AS YOU MAYBE SAW FROM THE AGENDA, A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED AND WE WILL JUST BE HEARING, UH, TWO APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING FOR, UH, ONE NORTH STREET AND FOR 16 VILLARD. UH, I'M GONNA EXERCISE MY DISCRETION AS ACTING CHAIR AND SWITCH THAT ORDER ON THE AGENDA. SO WE'LL HEAR ONE NORTH STREET FIRST AND THEN MOVE ON TO 16, UH, VILLARD. UM, WE MAY HAVE A, A, A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING THIS EVENING. I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'D LIKE EVERYONE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO. UM, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC COMMENT, IF SOMEONE HAS ALREADY MADE COMMENTS THAT YOU AGREE WITH, NO NEED TO REPEAT EVERYTHING. YOU CAN SIMPLY, UH, MAKE REFERENCE TO AGREEING WITH THE PRIOR SPEAKER. UH, ALSO COMMENTS MADE AT A PRIOR MEETING REMAIN PART OF THE RECORD. SO AGAIN, NO NEED TO REPEAT. HOWEVER, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANTS TONIGHT WILL BE PRESENTING UPDATED AND AMENDED PLANS. SO THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE AND THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. UH, WE WILL LIMIT TONIGHT OUR SPEAKERS, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS TO THREE MINUTES. AGAIN, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF MAKING SURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE, UM, TO BE HEARD TONIGHT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE APPLICATIONS, UH, [II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ] WE'VE GOT ONE SET OF MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING, UM, THAT WE CAN CONSIDER FOR ADOPTION. AND I TURN TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER. NONE. NO. ALL RIGHT. CAN I THEN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, FROM THE SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026? SO MOVED. SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. [III. OLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ] WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, OUR FIRST MATTER THIS EVENING IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL GO TO THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL APPLICATION OF MEYER PROPERTIES ONE NORTH STREET LLC FOR INTERIOR ALTERATIONS TO AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, INCLUDING CONVERTING THE EXISTING FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OFFICES INTO FOUR DWELLING UNITS AND THE BASEMENT OFFICES INTO COMMERCIAL SPACE AND MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT LOCATED AT ONE NORTH STREET. SAID PROPERTY IS IN THE MR-C ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL4. 30-21-1 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBERG TAX MAPS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION AT A FEW MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY AND THE APPLICANT HAS MODIFIED THE PLANS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD'S COMMENTS. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT THE REVISIONS THAT THEY'VE MADE? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS, THIS UPDATE. UM, COUPLE OF THINGS WE COVERED SINCE OUR LAST, UH, MEETING. UH, MY CLIENTS HIRED, UH, DONNA, UH, GOODKIN, WHO IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. UM, SO I WANTED TO JUST, UH, SHOW THAT ENHANCEMENT. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF MY PRESENTATION. AND JUST SHARE THAT WITH THE, UH, THE BOARD. LET'S SEE WHAT WE HAVE. OKAY. [00:05:02] SO THIS IS THE UPDATED PLANTING PLAN AND, UH, DONNA COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I WILL READ HER STATEMENT THAT SHE ASKED ME TO READ. SO, UH, SHE INDICATES THE BUILDING AT ONE NORTH STREET WAS BUILT IN 1969, REPLACING A RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT WAS PART OF THE HISTORIC TOWER RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD. MANY OF THE ORIGINAL HOMES STILL EXIST. UM, ONE NORTH STREET WAS BUILT AS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND NOW RETURNS TO ITS ROOTS AS A RESIDENCE HOUSING FOUR UNITS. GIVEN THE LOCATION ON THE CORNER OF WARBURTON AND NORTH, IT SERVES AS A TRANSITIONAL SPACE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING IS DESIGNED TO ENHANCE BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE TRANSITIONAL ROLE OF THE SITE BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE STREETSCAPE WITH THE INSTALLATION OF FLOWERING TREES AND TALLER EVERGREENS AND INCORPORATING SMALLER SCALE, MOSTLY NATIVE TREES, SHRUBS, GRASSES AND PERENNIALS. WE WILL TRANSPLANT SOME OF THE EXISTING PLANT MATERIAL AND ADD IT WITH HARDY NATIVE TREES, SHRUBS, AND GRASSES TO CREATE A FOUR SEASON GARDEN OF INTEREST. UH, DONNA DOES APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING AVAILABLE, BUT THIS IS, UM, WHAT SHE SUBMITTED AND, UH, WE RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT FOR CONSIDERATION AND HOPE THAT, UH, WE'VE CAPTURED WHAT THE, THE BOARD, UH, HAD ASKED FOR. UH, OF, ALSO OF INTEREST, UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARKING AND THIS LITTLE, UH, ADDITION, UH, WHICH IS A, A PLANTER REPLACES THE DEFENSE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE OR SOME TREES. SO, UH, DONNA CERTAINLY KNOWS BETTER THAN I DO IN THE LANDSCAPE WORLD, SO HOPEFULLY THE BOARD IS, IS, UH, PLEASED WITH THAT. BUT OKAY. UM, MOVING ON. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. UH, WE DO HAVE TO GO BACK AND VISIT WITH THEM, UH, AND PUT IN, UH, SOME MORE DETAILS. SO, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY I THINK WE'VE COVERED, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING FOR. QUESTION? OKAY. LET'S SEE. SO HERE IS OUR, UM, UPDATED PLAN AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS. WE MET, UH, THAT SAME WEEK AS THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE HERE. AND, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT DETAILS TO, UH, TALK ABOUT. UM, IN TERMS OF THE GAR - THE GARBAGE, UH, UH, SITUATION, UM, HOPEFULLY I HAVE A SKETCH FOR THE BOARD TO, UH, SHOW YOU WHAT WE WANNA DO THERE. UM, LET'S SEE. IS THIS IT? ALL RIGHT. SO THE, THE GARBAGE AREA HERE, THIS IS WHAT, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR MINOZZI ABOUT DISLOCATION. APPARENTLY THIS HAS BEEN WHERE THE GARBAGE HAS BEEN FOR THE, THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL DECADES. UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THERE. AND IN SPEAKING TO MY CLIENT, HE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS. THIS IS NOT GONNA BE THE KIND OF DUMPSTER THAT A GARBAGE TRUCK COMES TO AND BACKS IN AND CREATES A, A LOT OF CONGESTION AND NOISE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, APPARENTLY THE, THE, UM, BARRELS WILL COME OUT, THEY'LL BE PLACED IN THE BACK OF THE GARBAGE TRUCK AND, AND THEY'LL BE MOVED OUT VERY QUICKLY. SO THIS ENHANCEMENT WAS, UH, WELL THOUGHT OUT BY MY CLIENT, UH, BOB JAMICKI AND MIRANDA TO REALLY KINDA KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEACEFUL, QUIET, AND, AND, UH, AVAILABLE TO, UH, TO GET RID OF THE REFUGE AND, AND JUST GET OUT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THAT PIECE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GARBAGE AREA? UM, I DON'T THINK SO. WHY DON'T YOU JUST CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION? THANKS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE, UM, THE REST OF THE DETAILS, THEY'RE MOSTLY ARCHITECTURAL [00:10:01] IN DETAIL, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, SATISFY ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE, THE PLANNING BOARD. SO, UM, WE'VE WORKED ON THE FRONT PORTICO. UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT PER THE, UH, ARCHITECT'S REVIEW BOARD. UH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE MORE DETAILS AND, UH, COMPLETE THAT, THAT PROCESS. UM, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO LET'S SEE. WE HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS. THE, THE LIGHTING WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME. UM, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE MEET THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS CODE, UH, THE PARKING. WE WANNA KEEP IT, UH, PRETTY MUCH AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME. AND I THINK THOSE WERE SOME OF THE MAJOR POINTS. UM, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS POINT? UH, WE'LL TURN TO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS IN JUST A MOMENT. OKAY. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET ME GIVE OUR VILLAGE PLANNER, UM, PAT A CHANCE TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS HE MIGHT HAVE. SO NO FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE ONE ISSUE, UM, RELATES TO THE, THE NEW LANDSCAPING PLAN. SO WE WILL WANT A MAINTENANCE PROTOCOL FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT LANDSCAPING'S ON THE CORNER AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IT DOESN'T BECOME OVERGROWN AND CREATE A SITE DISTANCE ISSUE. SO PART OF OUR APPROVAL WILL INCLUDE A, A LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE PROTOCOL. DO YOU WANT ME TO PROVIDE THAT OR SHOULD I - YES. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED A NEW MEMO FROM THE VILLAGES CONSULTING ENGINEER INDICATING HIS COMMENTS, UH, HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. SO, UH, WITH THAT, LET ME, UH, INVITE MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO OFFER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THEY MIGHT HAVE. NO COMMENT. NO. NO COMMENT. OKAY. UM, WOULD ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK IN THIS APPLICATION? UH, DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. WELL, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT, YOU'RE STILL BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AS I UNDERSTAND IT. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO, UM, AS LONG AS THAT BOARD'S REVISIONS WILL NOT IMPACT THE SITE PLAN AND ONLY DEAL WITH ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, I THINK THEN THIS BOARD TONIGHT CAN PROCEED WITH A CONDITIONAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL. UM, AND SO I WILL INVITE A MOTION FROM, UH, THE BOARD TO GRANT A, UH - CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SHOULD WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? LET'S CLOSE. DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? YEAH. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. MAY I NOW HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT CONDITIONAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR ONE NORTH STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS? UH, NUMBER ONE, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. TWO, APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ANY OTHER PERMITS AND APPROVALS WHICH MAY BE REQUIRED FROM OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES. THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF PROVIDING PARKLAND IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, VILLAGE CODE SECTION 295-112C. AND FOR ALL SUCH OTHER STANDARD CONDITIONS, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS TO OFFER TO THEM? I, I THINK THAT THEY, UH, WHAT, UH, PAT SUGGESTED - LANDSCAPING. A MAINTENANCE PROTOCOL BE PROVIDED FOR THE LANDSCAPING. OKAY. AND WITH THE, THE MAINTENANCE PROTOCOL FOR THE LANDSCAPING AS WELL? WITH THOSE CONDITIONS, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT CONDITIONAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL? SO MOVED. A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THERE WE ARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. AND YOU TOO. THANK YOU. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS VIEW PRESERVATION ADVISORY AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR 16 VILLARD AVENUE, LLC. THE CONTRACT VENDEE FOR VIEW PRESERVATION RECOMMENDATION UNDER SECTION 295-82 AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL UNDER SECTION 295-104 TO CONSTRUCT A THREE-STORY, 60-UNIT, ACTIVE ADULT, 55 PLUS RENTAL APARTMENT BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED CLUBHOUSE BUILDING WITH SURFACE AND SUBSURFACE PARKING LOCATED AT 16 VILLARD AVENUE. SAID PROPERTY IS IN THE MR-1. 5 ZONING DISTRICT AND IS KNOWN AS SBL 4.40 - 44-3 ON THE VILLAGE TAX MAPS. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REVISED PLAN AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SINCE THEY LAST APPEARED. WOULD THE APPLICANT NOW LIKE TO PRESENT THOSE REVISIONS? UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MEMBER GUTTON, ACTIVE CHAIR GUTTEN. GOOD EVENING. UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS BRIAN [00:15:01] SINSBAUGH. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH ZARIN STEINMETZ ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UM, CONTINENTAL OF AMERICAN REAL ESTATE AND, UH, CONTRACT VENDEE 16 VILLARD AVENUE, LLC. UM, WITH ME TONIGHT, WE HAVE OUR TEAM, UM, ANUP MISRA, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, RICH WILLIAMS OF INSIGHT ENGINEERING, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, SAL COCO OF BHC ARCHITECTS, UH, TERRY HAHN OF, UH, LADA LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND ALSO, UH, TARD SHRAF OF KIMLEY-HORN, WHO IS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. UM, SO AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD. UM, WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS BASED UPON THE COMMENTS WE'VE, AND FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM BOTH THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC, AND AS WELL AS STAFF. UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WE PROPOSED WAS TWO THREE-STORY BUILDINGS THAT WERE CONNECTED WITH THE BREEZEWAY. UM, THAT PLAN REQUIRED 13 VARIANCES. UM, WE CAME BACK TO YOUR BOARD ON AUGUST 20TH WITH A REVISED PLAN THAT REQUIRED SEVEN VARIANCES. UM, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, IN ADDITION TO ADDRESSING A NUMBER OF THE CONCERNS OF THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, UM, NOW ONLY REQUIRES ONE VARIANCE AND THAT VARIANCE ITSELF, UM, IS INEVITABLE. UM, IT'S THE OVERLAPPING SIDE YARD SETBACK. UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE CONSOLIDATED THE TWO BUILDINGS INTO ONE BUILDING, REDUCING THE OVERALL BUILDING COVERAGE, UM, AND ENHANCING VISUAL IMPACTS. UM, WE SHIFTED THE BUILDING TO THE EAST, WHICH IS, UH, PLAN NORTH, UM, WHICH REDUCES VISUAL IMPACTS ON WITDAM, ON THE WITDHAM STREET PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS ENHANCES PRIVACY TO THOSE, UH, HOMES ON PLAN SOUTH. UH, WE'VE ALSO MODIFIED SITE ACCESS AND ON-SITE CIRCULATION, WHICH IS REDUCING TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING STREETS. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLAN AS WELL, WE'VE ALSO PROPOSED SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO HELP BUFFER THE PROJECT FROM THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. UM, THE OTHER IMPROVEMENT, SOME OTHER MODIFICATIONS THAT WE DID MAKE IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS, WE REMOVED THE PICKLEBALL COURT, UM, TO AVOID NOISE IMPACTS FROM THAT, THAT SITE. UM, WE'VE RELOCATED OUR TRASH ENCLOSURE, UM, WHICH IS NOW IN THIS AREA, UM, PLAN EAST, BUT IT'S ALSO 75 FEET FROM CHRISTIE'S TERRACE AND BUFFERED, UM, BY RETAINING WALL AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING. UM, AND WE RELOCATED THE VILLARD AVE ACCESS DRIVE. UM, IT IS NOW A TWO-WAY DRIVE. IT'S ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE HERE, PLANT, UM, PLAN WEST. UM, THAT'S A TWO-WAY DRIVE. SITE CIRCULATION ACTUALLY RUNS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING, UM, AND WE STILL RET, UH, MAINTAIN EGRESS ON CHRISTIE'S AVE, UM, BUT WE, BASED ON CRAFT TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UM, THIS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES IMPACTS ON THE NEARBY INTERSECTIONS AS WELL AS ON CHRISTIE'S, UM, CHRISTIE TERRACE AND WHIPPEN STREET. UM, BASED WITH THAT, UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER FIRST TO ANUP WHO'S ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. HE HAS A FEW COMMENTS THAT HE'D LIKE TO MAKE AS, AS TO SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS WE'VE MADE AND HOW WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, THE, OF THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC. AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR ENGINEER, UH, RICH WILLIAMS, WHO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE SITE AND SOME OF THE MORE SITE SPECIFIC CHANGES. THANK YOU, BRIAN. UM, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES. CAN YOU JUST LIFT THE MIC UP? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME AT THE BACK? GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, THANKS FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH A REVISED PLAN BASED ON A CALL WE HAD WITH THE CONSULTANTS. AND PART OF WHAT WE LEARNED WAS WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS, CONCERNS, FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS, FROM YOU FOLKS, AND WE THINK WE ADDRESSED MOST OF THEM. BROADLY SPEAKING, THE CONCERNS WERE PRIVACY, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON WHITMAN, TRAFFIC ON CHRISTIE, TRAFFIC ON WHITMAN. WE HEARD ABOUT THE TRASH CONCERNS, UH, FOLKS FROM 45 MAIN HAD, AND THE BROAD, BROADWAY, VILLARD AVENUE INTERSECTION. AND ONE OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO KEEP THE, UH, EXISTING ENTRANCE, AND WE DECIDED TO SWITCH IT. AND A LOT OF FOLKS, A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE SPOKE ABOUT NOISE CONSTRUCTION, AND THE REASON WAS THAT OUR BASEMENT WAS AT A PLUS 117 LEVEL, AND WE HAVE ROCK TILL 118, 119. WHAT WE DID WAS WE ELEVATED OUR BASEMENT TO 120. SO REDUCING THE INTENT, THE NECESSITY TO EXCAVATE ROCK, SO THE NOISE WILL BE DRASTICALLY REDUCED. WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT PICKLEBALL COURT AND, UH, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OUR , UH, CONSENSUS WAS TO TAKE IT OUT. SO THAT'S ONE LESS THING TO TALK ABOUT. [00:20:01] I THINK BRIAN ADDRESSED THAT. UM, WE ALSO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST, WHICH IS PLAN NORTH, HUDSON TERRACE. NOW WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD ANY RETAINING WALLS. WE'RE GONNA USE THE EXISTING LEVELS AND ELEVATING OUR APARTMENTS ABOVE MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO, WE CAN KEEP THE SAME LEVELS. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRYING TO GET CONSTRUCTION ACCESS AND SO ON. UH, BRIAN ALREADY TALKED ABOUT VARIANCES. I'M GONNA NOW SWITCH IT OVER TO RICH TO ADDRESS THOSE VARIANCES, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. AND AFTER THAT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE RICH, UH, WE HAVE SAL WHO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE ELEVATIONS. SO GOOD EVENING. FREE RECORD, RICH WILLIAMS WITH INSIGHT ENGINEERING. I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ALL THE FACES GO, "THAT'S THE WRONG PLAN." UM, I DID, I DID ACTUALLY HAVE THAT AS THE FIRST SLIDE BECAUSE I, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW WHERE WE LEFT OFF, RIGHT, AND JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD OUR ENTRANCE AT THE EXISTING LOCATION IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER OF THE PLAN, AS YOU FACE IT. WE HAD A ONE-WAY TRAFFIC CIRCULATION THAT WAS CLOSE TO HASTINGS TERRACE, PUSHING OUR BUILDING PAGE DOWN OR BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, CLOSER TO THE HOMES ON WHITMAN. WE HAD A DRIVEWAY THAT WAS TWO-WAY THAT LED TO AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE. AND THEN WE CONTINUED TO HAVE THE ONE-WAY OUT ONTO CHRISTIE TERRACE. UM, AND THEN WE HAD ADDITIONAL AMENITY SPACE HERE, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SENT US BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. AND AS YOU'VE HEARD, WE MET WITH STAFF TO PRESENT THIS PLAN, WHICH AFFECTS A LOT OF THE CHANGES YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT, BUT MAYBE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THEM A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THE VARIANCES. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD SEVEN VARIANCES. WE BELIEVE WE'RE DOWN TO ONE, WHICH IS THE SIDE YARD SETBACK VARIANCE. AND AGAIN, BASED ON THE SHAPE OF THIS PROPERTY, THE SIDE YARD FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE WOULD COME HIGH ENOUGH SUCH THAT THE SIDE YARD FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE ACTUALLY OVERLAPS IT, MEANING NO MATTER WHAT WE DO HERE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THAT VARIANCE WOULD BE NECESSARY. UM, SO THAT IS UNAVOIDABLE, AND I, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO TO DESIGN AROUND THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE REST, UM, STARTING WITH UNIT COUNT, WE REDUCED THE UNITS FROM 60 TO 59. WE NOW MEET THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS PER LOT AREA. UM, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE RETAINING WALLS. BY ADJUSTING THE BUILDING, SLIDING THE BUILDING FARTHER NORTH, UM, BY MOVING THE PARKING AREA, THE SURFACE PARKING AREA TO THE SOUTH, AND AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE, WHICH WAS 75 FEET AWAY, BETTER SCREENED, BETTER INTERNAL TO OUR PROPERTY, WE'RE ABLE TO START TO DO THINGS WITH THE GRADES THAT WE COULDN'T, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE COMING IN AT THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE PROPERTY, AND WHEN WE WERE LEAVING AT THE LOWEST POINT OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAD TO OVERCOME THAT DIFFERENCE. THAT GOT US THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN ALSO MAYBE GET RID OF THIS AWKWARD INTERSECTION THAT EXISTS AND THINK ABOUT A DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERN TO THE SITE. SO WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BRINGING THE ENTRANCE IN TO THE LOWEST POINT ON BILLARD, WHICH NOW CREATES SEPARATION FROM THE INTERSECTION. THAT INSTANTLY ALLOWED US TO GET INTO THE BASEMENT LEVEL OF THIS BUILDING AND START WORKING WITH LOWER ELEVATIONS, BRINGING OUR SITE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT RAISING EVERYTHING. UM, WE WERE JUST ABLE TO AVOID DRILLING INTO THE ROCK ON THE HIGH SIDE OF THE SITE. WHAT WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO DO WAS STILL GIVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS, UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WAS NON-NEGOTIABLE. UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THIS, OR WEST SIDE OF THIS BUILDING IS GRASS PAVE. GRASS PAVE WITH SCREENING PLANTINGS ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE. UM, THAT'LL ALLOW US TO KEEP THIS GREEN. IT ALLOWED US TO ADD ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS TO THE HOMES TO WHITMAN. IT ALLOWED US TO KEEP THIS ACCESS. THE ONLY TIME THIS ACCESS IS TO BE USED IS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TRASH PICKUP. THAT'S BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET TO THE REFUSE ENCLOSURE HERE, WE NEED TO BRING THE GARBAGE TRUCK IN ONE WAY. WE DON'T WANNA BRING IT UNDER THE BUILDING, THAT'LL MAKE THE BUILDING TALLER, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING. SO WE MAINTAIN THIS ACCESS FOR THE, UH, TRASH VEHICLES AS WELL. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PULL IN, PICK UP THE TRASH, BACK UP, AND LEAVE THROUGHCHRISTIE TERRACE, AND I THINK ENOUGH HAS EVEN MENTIONED HE'S WILLING TO USE THE SAME TRASH HAULER, UM, THAT OUR NEIGHBORS USES JUST TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PICKUPS. UM, THE OTHER THING, UH, THAT WE DID, UM, BY RECONFIGURING THE ENTRANCE IS SHIFT HOW WE CAN ENTER AND LEAVE THE SITE. IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN WITH THE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC PATTERN, ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC HAD TO LEAVE THROUGH CHRISTIE TERRACE AND THEN MAKE A LEFT OR RIGHT ON WHITMAN. UM, WE HEARD, [00:25:01] WE HEARD THE CONCERNS LOUD AND CLEAR. WE NOW HAVE A TWO-WAY ENTRANCE. WE'VE RESHAPED THAT ENTRANCE SO THAT IT COMPLIES WITH CODE. UM, AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO DO IS COME BACK OUT ON VILLARD AND MAKE THE RIGHT ON VILLARD TO GO UP BROADWAY. SO WE'VE OFFERED NOW ANOTHER WAY TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY AND ENTER THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH WILL HELP THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR TRAFFIC NOT ALL NEED TO USE CHRISTIE TERRACE AND WHITMAN. UH, WE SEE THAT AS A BENEFIT. WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED IS REALLY JUST A S - YOU KNOW, AN OVERVIEW PLAN AT THIS POINT. WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED GRADING PLANS. WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED UTILITY PLANS. WE'VE THOUGH ABOUT THEM. WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF LAID OUT THE SITE TO WORK WITH GRADING SO WE KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK WITH THE RETAINING WALLS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST A FIRST LOOK PLAN FOR YOU. UM, SOME OF THE OTHER VARIANCES THAT WE ELIMINATED, RIGHT? WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE NEED FOR THE MINIMUM LOT AREA AT THE 60 UNITS. WE'RE NOW AT 59. THE SIDE YARD SETBACK WE CAN'T AVOID. DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE WITH THE REDUCED BUILDING, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ELIMINATED THE BREEZEWAY, THE BUILDING'S MORE COMPACT, WE ATTACHED THE CLUBHOUSE TO THE BUILDING HERE, WE CAN, UH, WE ARE NOW UNDER ON DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE, SO WE'VE ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR A DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE VARIANCE. UM, WE'VE RECONFIGURED THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE TO COMPLY WITH THE 24 FOOT WIDTH. WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PLANTED BUFFERS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO REGRADE THIS SITE SO THAT WE DON'T NEED RETAINING WALLS OVER SIX AND A HALF FEET, WHICH WERE THE VARIANCES WE PRESENTED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY. UM, WE THINK THIS REPRESENTS A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT YOU SAW LAST TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AGREE, WE, WE HOPE SO, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DID TAKE THE CONCERNS WE HEARD THAT WE HEARD WAS WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF YOU SLIDE THE BUILDING NORTH? UM, THIS IS THE BUILDING SLID NORTH TO MAINTAIN A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION FROM VILLARD, ACCOMMODATE THE CLUBHOUSE, BUT WE DID PUSH THAT BUILDING FARTHER NORTH THAN THE LAST TIME YOU SAW IT. UM, I WILL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT THEY'RE REALLY IN A PRESENTABLE FASHION. WE DID STUDY DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. WE, WE'RE NOT COMING HERE JUST WITH ONE AND SAYING HOW WE GOT IT RIGHT ON THE FIRST SHOT. UM, WE LOOKED AT FOUR STORY OPTIONS. UM, WE LOOKED AT A TWO STORY OPTION. UM, JUST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE TWO STORY OPTION, THE BUILDING GETS LONGER TO STILL GET TO THE 59 UNITS. THAT STARTS TO REINTRODUCE DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE VARIANCES AND ENDS UP MAKING THE PLAN LESS COMPLIANT. UM, SAME THING WITH A FOUR STORY OPTION. SO THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND BALANCED ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT PREVIOUSLY WITH RESPECT TO BEING NONCONFORMING. WE RECOGNIZE IT STILL DOES NEED ONE VARIANCE OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK, BUT WE HOPE YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT ONE. SO THAT, I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOOD. WANNA TALK ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS? YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD EVENING, UH, SAL COCO, BHC ARCHITECTS. UM, SO REALLY MAKING THIS MUCH MORE COMPACT FOOTPRINT IS A, IS A BENEFIT, UH, TO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE PUSHED THE BUILDING BACK AWAY FROM THE HOMES ON WHITMAN, AND WE CAN PUT SOME LANDSCAPE SCREENING, UH, ON OUR YARD THERE WHERE THAT FIRE ACCESS ROAD WOULD BE, AS WELL AS ALONG THE, THE GARAGE WALL. UH, WE END UP WITH AN AMENITY, UH, CLUBHOUSE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO OUR BUILDING. IT WOULD SHARE THE ELEVATOR. WE'D HAVE ROOFTOP THERE CONNECTED BY SIDEWALK DOWN TO THE VILLAGE, UH, REALLY MAKING A, YOU KNOW, A WELCOME, UH, WALK TO THE VILLAGE AND, AND ALL THE AMENITIES THAT THE VILLAGE OFFERS. AND, UH, THE, THE COMPACT FOOTPRINT, UH, AND DRIVE UNDERNEATH WILL REDUCE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CARS COMING BACK AND FORTH. THEY WOULD GO RIGHT UNDER, UH, THE, THE BUILDING. UM, AND ALL OF THE ACTIVITY AND AMENITY OCCURS WITHIN OR ON TOP OF THE BUILDING. UM, SO THE WHOLE, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE, THE VIEWS ARE WIDE OPEN. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SUPPLEMENTAL PARKING THERE AND EVEN THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, WE PUT A CAP ON, UH, A ROOFTOP AMENITY ON THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF OUR BUILDING, UH, S - TO, TO COVER THAT, REALLY OFFERING A BENEFIT TO ALL THE, THE NEW RESIDENTS. UH, WE THINK THIS IS A MUCH, UH, MORE PLEASANT SOLUTION AND, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO REFINING IT MORE, UH, AND INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON VARIANCES. I THINK YOUR SUBMISSIONS HAD LISTED TWO REMAINING VARIANCES, THE SECOND RE - UH, RELATED TO THE RETAINING WALL VARIANCE. IS THAT NO LONGER THE CASE? WE'RE GONNA BE UNDER SIX AND A HALF. OKAY. MICROPHONE, PLEASE. SORRY, SIR. THAT'S OKAY. AND WE BELIEVE WE'LL BE UNDER SIX AND A HALF WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE FINAL [00:30:01] GRADING PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND WE'VE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER AND, AND MANY OF THE COMMENTS, UH, RELATE TO ENGINEERING DETAILS, WHICH ARE NOT YET PROVIDED AS THE LAYOUT OF THE PLAN IS NOT YET FINAL. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT. UH, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER OR ASK, UH, INVITE MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UM, PAT, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE AT THIS POINT? SO NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'VE WITHHELD COMMENTS UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN THAT YOUR BOARD FINDS TO BE FURTHER SUITABLE FOR, FOR DETAILED REVIEW. THANK YOU. UM, WOULD ANY OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR SHARE THEIR COMMENTS? RICHARD? I, I'M TRYING NOT TO BE TOO ANNOYING. I HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU LOOKED AT VARIOUS OPTIONS. UH, THE OPTION I RAISED LAST MONTH WAS ABOUT RE - UH, REMOVING THE DEED RESTRICTION. WAS THAT EXAMINED? DID YOU SPEAK TO... WHO DID YOU SPEAK TO IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE? UM, SO REMOVING THE DEED RESTRICTION, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. UM, THAT ACTUALLY WOULD REQUIRE AN APPLICATION TO COURT. WE WOULD HAVE TO FILE LITIGATION IN COURT. SO THERE'D BE A COURT FILING, WE'D HAVE TO FILE A PETITION WITH THE SUPREME COURT UNDER REAL PROPERTY, UM, ACTIONS AND PROCEEDINGS LAW. AND WE HAVE NOT DONE SO. I MEAN, USUALLY TYPICALLY LIFTING, THIS IS A PRETTY BIG LIFT TO DO SO. YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEED TO HAVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS REMOVED. UM, IT ENTAILS MORE THAN JUST SIMPLY MAKING A REQUEST THAT IT BE REMOVED. UM, THE PETITION WOULD PUT OTHER PEOPLE ON NOTICE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE ANY OTHER RIGHTS UNDERNEATH, UNDERNEATH THAT. SO IF THAT DEED WAS INDEED PART OF, THAT DEED RESTRICTION IS ALSO PART OF SAY A SUBDIVISION MAP, UM, THEN OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS OF PROPERTY IN THAT SUBDIVISION MAP WOULD ALSO HAVE A SAY. SO FROM A SITE PLAN POINT OF VIEW, THAT WAS NOT EXAMINED. UM, THE DEED RESTRICTION WAS PUT IN PLACE FOR A PARTICULAR REASON. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD AND TO THE PUBLIC WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR THAT DEED RESTRICTION INITIALLY AND WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR RETAINING IT? UM, WE, WE DIDN'T IMPOSE THE DEED RESTRICTION, SO I, I CAN'T SAY WHAT THE RATIONALE WAS. UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. UM, AGAIN THOUGH, WITH REGARDS TO REMOVING THE DEED RESTRICTION, A PETITION IN COURT WOULD TAKE YEARS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REMOVE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. UM, DO WE THINK THAT'S STILL VALID? NO. I, I MEAN, YOUR, YOUR ZONING OVERRIDES ANY, ANY CERTAIN, CERTAIN REASON WHY IT WOULD BE THAT WAY, BUT ULTIMATELY, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SIMPLY GET A QUICK ANSWER FOR YOU FOR. HAVE YOU EVER DONE A DEED RESTRICTION REMOVAL? I HAVE. UM - I HAVE ONE IN COURT CURRENTLY AS WELL. MY OFFICE HAS DONE NUMEROUS ONES WITH THE AG'S OFFICE, SO I'M NOT ACCEPTING THE, THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES TO RE- REMOVE. I ALSO THINK THAT, UH, AS A ALTERNATIVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE STUDIED WHAT THAT OPTION WOULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THAT SITE PLAN MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BETTER SITE PLAN THAN ONE YOU'RE PRESENTING. UH, I MEAN, WE DID LOOK AT DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NECESSARILY WOULD BE THE CASE. UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES WITH BUILDING IN THAT LOCATION FEASIBILITY-WISE AS WELL AS IN TERMS OF ALL THE OVERALL IMPACTS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND WE WOULD SIG - STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES MUCH. WELL, SPEAKING AS AN URBAN PLANNER, HOLDING THE CORNER WITH A TALLER BUILDING THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALONG BROADWAY AT THAT, UH, THAT STRETCH GOING SOUTH MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN IT'S ELONGATED, UH, STRUCTURE. MY OPINION. SO UNDERSTOOD. AND JUST, YOU, YOU, YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE ANSWER I'M ABOUT TO GIVE, UM, BUT I'M JUST, I'M GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE ANYWAY, SO IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF THIS. WE DID, WE DID SLIDE THE BUILDING AS FAR NORTH TO THE DEAN LINE. WE DID LOOK AT IF WE DO CONTINUE TO PUSH IT FARTHER NORTH, RIGHT, WHERE THE CLUBHOUSE WOULD GO. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE USED THE CLUBHOUSE TO INFILL THE REMAINING DEED RESTRICTED AREAS, SO WE WERE STILL PUTTING BUILDING THERE. WE DID REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THAT C - YOU KNOW, THE HUB CLUBHOUSE IS A REDUCED HEIGHT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ABOVE IT. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SLIDING THIS AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT AN L-SHAPED BUILDING, BUT WE FEEL THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CAVERNOUS EFFECT. RIGHT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT. I'M SUGGESTING, UH, A SIX OR SEVEN STORY BUILDING THAT WOULD, UH, ELIMINATE, UH, THE SITE COVERAGE, UH, WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT YOUR PRESENT DESIGN HAS, WOULD PROVIDE, UH, UH, VISUAL FOR YOUR RESIDENTS OF THE, OF THE RIVER. THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS FOR IT. ALSO WOULD HOLD THAT CORNER, UM, FROM AN, A URBANISTIC POINT OF VIEW. SO THAT'S MY POINT, NOT, NOT SHIFTING YOUR BUILDING FURTHER NORTH. DO WE, DO WE THINK A SIX OR SEVEN STORY BUILDING WILL HAVE LESS IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORS? AT HOLDING THE CORNER, I THINK THAT'S WORTH STUDYING. I'M NOT GONNA SPECULATE BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY PROJECT, BUT [00:35:01] YOU'VE SAID YOU STUDIED VARIOUS OPTIONS. OBVIOUSLY YOU DIDN'T STUDY THAT OPTION. WHILE YOU HAVE THIS ON HERE, CAN YOU W- WALK ME THROUGH THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, CIRCULATION, UH, FOR THE SITE? IF I'M A RESIDENT, UH, HOW DO I GET OUT OF IT? HOW DO I GET TO THE SUPERMARKET? HOW DO I GET INTO TOWN? OKAY. SO AT THIS LEVEL, WE HAVEN'T HAD ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN YET, BUT WE DO HAVE SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY ALONG THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UM, YOU AS A RESIDENT CAN WALK OUT THE DRIVEWAY ONTO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS HERE. AGAIN, OUR MAIN ENTRANCE IS ON THIS FIRST FLOOR. WE HAVE A SIDEWALK RIGHT HERE THAT GETS YOU FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE CLUBHOUSE TO VILLARD. YOU CAN ALSO EXIT AND COME OUT THIS WAY. NOW YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE PARKING AREA IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT TO CHRISTIE AND THEN TO WHITMAN. WHITMAN ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE A FORMALIZED SIDEWALK IN THIS AREA DOWN TO MAIN STREET. I'M SORRY, WARVERTON. UM, BUT WE DID MAKE THE CONNECTION TO VILLARD WHERE THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO BE MADE. BUT THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO BROADWAY IF I WANTED TO WALK, UH, TO - YES, THERE IS. THE SIDEWALK COMES UP AND DOWN VILLARD INTO BROADWAY. NO, NO, NO. I, TRUST ME, I UNDERSTAND VILLARD CONNECTS WITH BROADWAY, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO WALK, UH, S - UH, WEST AND, AND NORTH ON VILLARD TO GET TO BROADWAY TO GO TO THE SUPERMARKET THAT'S GOING SOUTH. IS THAT REALLY A GOOD PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION? WE CAN LOOK AT ADDING A CONNECTION FROM THE ROOF GARDEN OUT AND SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS THE BUILDING AND THE GRADES AND HOW IT TIES IN WITH ACCESSIBILITY. BUT IN, IN 3D WITH THE WAY THESE ENTRANCE IS SET UP, THIS WOULD BE A LOGICAL WAY. THERE WOULDN'T BE A DESIRE PATH THERE BECAUSE OF HOW THE BUILDING INTERACTS WITH THE GRADES. YOUR NEW DRIVEWAY, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE FROM, UH, THE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE CORNER OF WHITMAN? FROM HERE TO HERE? YEAH. THE, FROM WHITMAN TO YOUR ENTRANCE. IS IT LESS THAN 100 FEET? IS... IT'S PROBABLY, YEAH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 100 FEET TO THE GARAGE HERE AND IT'S PROBABLY 60 OR 70 FEET HERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO A VERTICAL DIFFERENCE THAT I'M NOT SURE IS BEING REALIZED IN THIS CONVERSATION. UM, YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS HERE? MM-HMM. CAN HE INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO THE AUDIENCE? I HAVE QUESTIONS. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. I'M TARSHAW FROM KIMLEY-HORN. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK LOUDER. I'M SORRY. I'M THARSHAW FROM KIMLEY-HORN AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR 16 WILLARD AVENUE, LLC. UM, YOUR, YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY IDENTIFIED PEAK HOURS, UH, IN THE AREA. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT, FOR THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS AND FOR THE, FOR THE AUDIENCE AT HOME? SO BASICALLY THE PEAK HOURS OVER HERE ARE WHEN THERE IS, UH, MOST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE ADJACENT STREET, AND AT THAT TIME, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE. SO ADDING HOW MANY NEW TRIPS BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DURING THAT PEAK HOUR. SO FOR A SENIOR FACILITY, DO THEY HAVE THE SAME NORMAL, UH, PEAK HOUR, UH, UH, USAGE THAT, UH, AN OFFICE BUILDING OR A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WOULD HAVE? SO BASICALLY WE STUDY IT WHEN THE ADJACENT STREET, SO WHEN THE BROADWAY PEAKS, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WILL GENERATE. YOU, YOU, YOU'RE REVERSING MY QUESTION. HAVE YOU STUDIED, UH, SENIOR FACILITIES, WHAT'S THEIR TRAFFIC GENERATION? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION ON HOW THAT'S GONNA INTERF- INTERFACE WITH OUR GRID. SO IT TRIP GENERATION MANUAL HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT LAND USE, AND OUT OF THOSE, WE HAVE USED THE SENIOR ADULT HOUSING LAND USE TO GENERATE TRAFFIC FOR THIS FACILITY. UM - SO THEY HAVE A STUDY ACROSS THE, UH, DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTRY. THEY SPLIT OUT THE NUMBERS, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC DOES IT GENERATE, AND THAT'S THE STANDARD PRACTICE THAT WE USE, AND FROM THAT WE GOT OUT THE NUMBERS THAT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC - I, I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T READ THAT IN, IN YOUR SUBMISSION. DID YOU SUBMIT THAT TO THE BOARD? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S IN THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION. OKAY. I REVIEWED THE LATEST TRA - UH, SUBMISSION. I DIDN'T SEE IT. THE LATEST ONE ONLY HAS THE UPDATES, WHAT ARE THE NEW UPDATES AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE TRAFFIC, BUT THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION WITH THE WHOLE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SAYS HOW WE GENERATE THE TRAFFIC, HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS, WHAT STANDARDS DID WE USE FOR THOSE NUMBERS. IN TERMS OF VISITATION TO A SENIOR FACILITY, WHEN, WHEN ARE THOSE PEAK HOURS? IF I WAS TO VISIT MY, MY PARENTS, WHEN WOULD I BE VISITING? SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT METHODS TO DO THIS. THE STANDARD PRACTICE IS WHENEVER... BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEE WHAT IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORING STREET AND WHEN THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC IS ON THE NEIGHBORING STREET. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT RE - UH, WAYS TO DO IT. ONE IS THE WAY, WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TRIPS WILL BE GENERATED IN ANY OF THE PEAK HOUR, AND ONE WOULD BE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS ON THE NEIGHBORING STREET AND WHAT TIME DOES IT, AT THAT TIME, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC [00:40:01] IT WILL GENERATE. DID ANY OF YOUR STUDIES OCCUR ON SUNDAY WHEN THE, UH, UH, CHURCH, UH, AT THE CORNER OF WARBURTON AND VILLARD IS, UH, OPERATING? SO WE CAN GENERATE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT CAN BE, UH, PROJECTED FOR THE SUNDAY, BUT IN OUR CURRENT STUDY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUNDAY PROJECTS. SO YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND COUNT CARS? NO. WOULDN'T THAT BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, VISITATION FOR A SENIOR FACILITY IS HIGHER ON WEEKENDS, UH, AND THAT MIGHT CONFLICT WITH THE CHURCH TRAFFIC? THAT'S TRUE, BUT THEN ON SUNDAY, THERE WOULD BE ANY GENERAL TRAFFIC WHICH GOES TO THE SCHOOL, WHICH GOES TO THE OFFICE. THOSE TRAFFIC WON'T BE ON THE STREET. SO ON THE OVERALL LEVEL, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE MUCH ON A LOWER SIDE THAN COMPARED TO ON THE WEEKDAYS. I APPRECIATE THE THEORETICAL ANSWER. I WOULD RATHER SEE REAL NUMBERS, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE OPERATION ON THE WEEKENDS. ON SATURDAYS, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A, A FARMER'S MARKET THAT GENERATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC. WE HAVE A CHURCH ON SUNDAY, GENERATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IF YOU DON'T COUNT THOSE CARS, MAKING CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS BY THE, THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC MANUAL MAY NOT BE THE, THE BEST, UH, OUTCOME. YOUR ATTORNEY WANTS AN ANSWER. I, I THINK... I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, WE MADE A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. WE HAVEN'T MADE OUR FULL SUBMISSION AS OF DAY, AS OF YET. SO YES, WE WILL BE REVIEWING ITEMS, BUT ITE IS THE STANDARD FOR PROVIDING, LIKE, I... AL- ALBEIT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS CONCEPTUAL, ITE IS THE STANDARD IN TERMS OF MAKING SUBMISSIONS AS TO TRAFFIC. I ALSO DO WANNA MAKE ANOTHER POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M EDUCATING THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC HERE, BUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS NO JURISDICTION WITH REGARD TO PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR LIFTING THAT. THAT IS ONLY THE COURT UNDER RPAPL 1951. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THIS BOARD. HOW LONG HAS, UH, UH, YOUR CLIENT, UH, HAD AN OPTION ON THIS PROPERTY? OUR CLIENT? I... WHAT, WHAT IS THE QUESTION PERTAINING TO? WHEN, WHEN WERE... WHEN, WHEN DID THE PROJECT START? WHEN WERE YOU RETAINED? HOW LONG, UH, IS IT FROM, UH, CONCEPTION TO, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTING PLANS TO THE PLANNING BOARD? IS IT SIX MONTHS? IS IT FOUR MONTHS? IS IT TWO YEARS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RELEVANCE OF THAT QUESTION IS HERE. THE RELEVANCE IS THE TIME IT TAKES TO REMOVE THE DEED RESTRICTION. IF THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, UH, WE MIGHT NOT BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I CAN ANSWER, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION THIS WAY. I CAN SAY THAT WE CAME TO THIS BOARD WITH A PLAN. THAT PLAN DID NOT REQUIRE REMOVAL OF THE DEEDS RESTRICTION. YOU'VE NOW ASKED FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT. I TALKED WITH MY CLIENT ACTUALLY WHILE WE WERE GOING OVER THE TRAFFIC. WE HAVE ASKED THE S - THE BRO - OUR BROKER ACTUALLY DID ASK THE SELLER ABOUT REMOVAL OF THE DEED RESTRICTION. THE SELLER IS NOT INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT ROUTE. SO THAT IS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. JUST, IF I MAY INTERJECT, JUST TO CLARIFY, DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL SENSE OF HOW LONG THAT PROCESS TAKES TO REMOVE A DEED IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT, UM, APPLICATION PROCESS? IT COULD TAKE, TAKE ANYWHERE UP TO A YEAR. I MEAN, OR EVEN MORE, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FEEDBACK YOU GET. UM, IF ANYBODY'S ACTUALLY RESPONDING ON IT, SOMETIMES YOU GO IN, YOU DON'T GET RESPONSES, UM, AND YOU GET THAT LIFTED. BUT IF YOU DO GET RESPONSES FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPONDING BACK AS DEFENDANTS IN THAT CASE, THEN YES, IT CAN TAKE OVER A YEAR. SO GENERALLY A YEAR AND A COURT, OF COURSE, IT COULD BE LONGER DEPENDING ON THE PARTICULAR FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. CERTAINLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ANY SITE PLAN REVIEW OR ANY APPLICATION, THERE'S MULTIPLE FACETS TO THE APPLICATION. YOUR APPLICANT DECIDED NOT TO PURSUE THAT, UM, HOPING TO PUT ALL THEIR EGGS IN ONE BASKET. WE ARE A CONTRACT VENDEE UNDER THE CONTRACT HERE. UM, THE... I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO GET INTO THE CONTRACT DETAILS. I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, WITH REGARD TO... WE ASKED THE SELLER IF THEY WANTED TO PURSUE THAT WHEN THIS CAME UP. UM, THE SELLER IS NOT INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT. RIGHT. NORMALLY, A SELLER WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. THAT'S ON THE OBLIGATION OF THE PURCHASER. UH, BUT IF IT RESULTS IN A BETTER SITE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS BODY'S SUPPOSED TO REVIEW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. WHAT'S THE BEST SITE PLAN FOR THIS V - INTERESTING SITE? WE DID, WE DID MEET WITH STAFF PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. WE CAME TO A CONCLUSION IN TERMS OF SOME OF OUR ALTERNATIVES AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WOULD BE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. UM, WE PRESENTED IT TO THIS BOARD. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR OPINIONS ARE. BUT YOU... AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, MY SUGGESTION WAS NEVER CONSIDERED AND NEVER STUDIED. RICHARD, I'M SORRY. IT WAS CONSIDERED. WE ASKED THE SELLER. I THINK THAT THE SELLER WOULD HA - AS THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE THE APPLICATION, AND IF THE SELLER'S NOT INTERESTED IN DOING SO - FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT - THE CONTRACT VENDEE USUALLY HAS STANDING IN MAKING THESE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS. WE, WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME, LINDA. WELL, I... IT'S... THE, THE SELLER HAS TO BE THE ONE BRINGING THE PETITION. THEY'RE THE PROPERTY OWNER. YES. THEY'RE THE ONES WHOSE INTEREST. SO THEY WOULD OBJECT IF YOU MADE THE APPLICATION. [00:45:01] IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THE COURT WOULD NEVER ACCEPT IT. UM, LET ME SUGGEST, UM, WHY DON'T WE, UM, RETURN OUR FOCUS TO THE APPLICATION AHEAD OF US, OR IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT. AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA... I MAY. OKAY. SHOULD WE... WE'LL, WE'LL RETURN TO YOU, RICHARD, IF YOU'D LIKE, AND PATRICK, I'LL GO TO YOU NEXT. UM, HI. UM, I, I, UH, I GENUINELY APPRECIATE THE NUMBER OF CHANGES YOU ALL MADE. UH, I, OBVIOUSLY, THE, UH, THE ISSUE OF THE PICKLE BO - BALL COURT WAS A BIG ONE, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. I, I THINK THE DECISION TO CHANGE THE, THE TRAFFIC FLOW TO REDUCE ON WHITMAN IS, IS, IS, UH, AN EXCELLENT CHOICE. UM, AND, UM, SO I, AND I, AND I, THIS, THE BUILDING MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO THE NORTH IS, IS GREAT FOR THE SOUTHERN BUILDING. UM, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A, THE VIEW ADVISORY CONSIDERATION FOR THAT. I THINK YOU SAID YOU ROSE, YOU, YOU INCREASED THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING BY A FEW FEET, SO THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THAT. OBVIOUSLY, IT PUTS MORE OF THAT ON THE NORTHERN OF THOSE TWO BUILDINGS. UM, SO WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE WE'RE READY, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, UH, IS A CONCERN. UM, AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU SAID IT'S A GRASS DRIVE. UM, I, I LIVE AT A, UH, I LIVE AT A CO-OP COMPLEX AND, UH, IF, IF YOU CREATE A DRIVEWAY, PEOPLE WILL DRIVE IN IT. SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, UH, I KNOW IT'S NECESSARY FOR FIRE ACCESS, BUT I WOULD HAVE CONCERNS THAT EVENTUALLY IT WOULD BECOME A RESIDENT DRIVEWAY. UM, SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THOSE TRIPS WERE LIMITED. UM, AND, UM, I THINK LASTLY, WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THIS SMALLER BUILDING AND MOVE NORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE MASSING IS STILL ON THE, ON THE BUILDING IS STILL PRETTY BIG. UM, SO, UH, I, I WOULD, I, I'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM WHITMAN, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE STILL A PRETTY IMPOSING BUILDING. UM, BUT I DO, THAT, ALL THAT SAID, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SPENT THE MONTH CONSIDERING OTHER OPTIONS AND, AND YOU MADE, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE CHANGES THAT WE REQUESTED. SO, UM, THANKS FOR THAT. UM, THAT'S ALL. THANKS, PATRICK. DAN? I ECHO PATRICK'S SENTIMENTS. UM, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO RESPOND TO OUR FEEDBACK AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC. I'M SURE YOU'LL HEAR A LOT MORE FEEDBACK TONIGHT, AS YOU ALREADY HAVE. UM, HOW TALL IS THE BUILDING NOW, AND HOW MUCH HAS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING INCREASED IN THE PRIOR PLAN? CAN YOU STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU'RE GONNA RESPOND, PLEASE? A NEW COMMISSIONER. IT'S THREE STORIES OVER BASEMENT, AND IT'S LESS THAN 40 FEET. OKAY. AND WHAT WAS THE PRIOR HEIGHT UNDER THE PREVIOUS PLAN? SAME. UH, THREE STORIES, LESS THAN 40 FEET. OH, OKAY. OKAY, SO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING HAS NOT, HAS NOT CHANGED? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. COULD SOMEONE SPEAK, UH, MAYBE THE, I'M SORRY, SIR, THE ENGINEER, UH, JUST SPEAK TO THE, UM, WHAT EXACTLY THEN YOU'RE DOING IN TERMS OF THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BASEMENT AND MY, MY IMPRESSION, I THINK MAYBE THE IMPRESSION OF SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WAS THAT THE BUILDING WAS GETTING TALLER IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGE IN CIRCULATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SORRY, UH, I WASN'T THE ONE THAT SAID IT WAS TALLER. NOT THE - OH, NO, NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU - OUR, OUR IMPRESSION WAS THAT IT WAS TALLER BECAUSE YOU SAID THE... SORY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. YOU SAID BEFORE THAT IT WAS GONNA GO DOWN TO 118 AND NOW IT GOES TO 120. SO OUR IMPRESSION WAS THAT - YEAH. IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN THE BUILDING WOULD BE TWO FEET TALLER. IS THAT NOT THE CASE? SO I, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO THE ARCHITECT ACCOUNT HEIGHT. WE'VE GOTTA FINISH THE GRADING PLAN AND DEVELOP IT IN DETAIL. WE'LL GIVE YOU SPECIFIC HEIGHTS. WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA STAY UNDER THE ZONING THRESHOLD. OKAY. WHICH TO US IS, IS THE BAR WE'RE LOOKING AT. THE OTHER BAR WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, WE WERE PREVIOUSLY IN OUR, OUR PAST PRESENTATIONS AND VIEW SHEDS IMPACTING SPECIFIC UNITS IN THE BUILDINGS NEXT TO US ON THE FIRST TWO RESIDENTIAL FLOORS. WE'RE LOOKING TO NOT CHANGE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WE WERE FOCUSED ON NOT MAKING THE BUILDING TALLER AND NOT TO REOPEN THAT DISCUSSION, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO IMPACT, IMPACT THE HIGHER LEVEL FLOORS OF OUR NEIGHBOR. OKAY. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE HAVEN'T PUSHED THE BUILDING ANY HIGHER TO IMPACT THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH. SORRY TO INTERRUPT, DAN. NO, NO. I MEAN, THAT WAS, THAT, THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE, THE SIDING OF THE BUILDING AND THE IMPACT ON HEIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK IN THAT, IN THAT VEIN, WHILE I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT, I THINK PROBABLY THE WHOLE BOARD APPRECIATES THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOU'VE WORKED TO REDUCE AND MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES. UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MUCH OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE HEARD AND WE'LL HEAR TONIGHT HAS, UH, HAS LESS TO DO WITH ZONING AND VARIANCES THAN IT HAS TO DO WITH THE VIEW SHED AND, AND THE VIEW IMPACT. AND SO I WAS CURIOUS TO HEAR, UH, OR INTERESTED TO HEAR ABOUT THE TWO-STORY ALTERNATIVE AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA HEAR MORE [00:50:01] ABOUT BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IN TERMS OF FINDING A PATH FORWARD HERE, UH, THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONSIDERATIONS. UM, SO - SURE. YEAH. SURE. GREAT. SO WE DIDN'T RENDER THIS, UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH LONGER THE BUILDING GETS. IT BASICALLY GOES THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE SITE. THIS IS THE SAME CONCEPT AS THE PLAN THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT IS, IS OUR THREE-STORY OPTION, JUST TAKING DOWN A STORY. AND WHEN YOU TAKE THE STORY DOWN, OBVIOUSLY YOU GOTTA MAKE THE ONE BUILDING LONGER. SO IT BASICALLY GOES - BUT YOU'RE ALSO MAINTAINING 59 UNITS. IF YOU WERE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE BUILDING AS LONGER. WE ALSO HAVE A ZONING COMPLIANT PLAN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SIDE YARD. HOW MUCH SHORTER IS IT WITH TWO STORIES? HOW MUCH LONGER? HOW MUCH SHORTER? SHORTER. D- DOES THIS REQUIRE A C - A COVERAGE VARIANCE THOUGH? YES. YEAH. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I, I WELCOME THAT - IT'S A BALANCE. THE, THE INPUT FROM THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY, BUT OUR JOB IS NOT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH ZONING, RIGHT? SO... SO STAYING ON YOUR QUESTION, DAN, IF IT WAS REDUCED TO TWO STORIES WITH THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT THAT'S PROPOSED, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE RE - UH, ELIMINATED BY REDUCING? WE DIDN'T STUDY THAT ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PLAN THAT COMPLIES WITH ZONING OTHERWISE, OTHER THAN THE SIDE YARDS. AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE, YOU HAVE A CODE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH A PERFORMER THAT WORKS FOR THE PROJECT. AND I'M, AND, AND I'M SORRY IF YOU WANT A SMALLER PROJECT WITH THIS ONE WE PRESENTED. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, IF THERE WERE FEWER UNITS, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER VARIANCE, IS THAT RIGHT? NO. I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, RIGHT, WE COULD CONTINUE TO SHRINK MASSING AND UNIT COUNT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, RIGHT? WE EXPECT THIS APPLICATION TO BE REVIEWED ON THE CODE THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AND NOT JUST WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR DON'T. RIGHT, BUT WE'RE ALSO REVIEWING FOR VIEW PRESERVATION ADVISORY. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. AND, AND THIS IS THE BALANCE AND THAT'S WHY WE DID LOOK AT A TWO-STORY OPTION. IN PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS BEFORE THIS BOARD, WE HAVE REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS. SO THE QUESTION STILL STANDS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU KEPT THE, YOUR PROPOSED FOOTPRINT AND REDUCED TO, UH, ONE, ONE LESS STORY, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THAT CREATE? THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD ANSWER. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT TODAY, COME BACK NEXT TIME. ROUND NUMBERS, YES. 15. 15 FEWER UNITS? THAT'S JUST THE BALLPARK GUESS, JUST KIND OF CUTTING IT DOWN BY - SO 44?... PERCENTAGE. YEP. THANK YOU. BUT WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SLID IT TO GET YOU AROUND NUMBER. THAT'S JUST US KIND OF - NO, WE UNDERSTAND. WE FIRED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AT YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. JUST ALSO IN TERMS OF THE BALANCING ACT THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, I MEAN, WE GET THE VIEW PRESERVATION ASPECT OF IT, BUT ALSO THE CODE BY PERMITTING UP TO THESE AMOUNTS HAS ALREADY BEEN KIND OF PRESUMED THAT THERE ISN'T AN ADVERSE IMPACT OF HAVING A BUILDING AT THE CERTAIN HEIGHT. UM, BUT - SIR, UM, BUT JUST - PLEASE DON'T SPEAK. BUT WE ARE BALANCING THOSE TWO THINGS. SO I UNDERSTAND LIKE YOU GUYS, YOU DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE ZONING ASPECT OF IT, BUT I'M JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS TO A POINT WHERE THE VILLAGE IS ALREADY PRESUMED THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT GIVEN THAT IT'S ALREADY PERMITTED TO MENTION. I THINK FOR BETTER OR WORSE, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. YEAH. THAT'S NOT HOW ZONING INTERACTS WITH VIEW PRESERVATION ADVISORY HERE IN HASTINGS. SO - NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE HAVE THE VIEW. I'M SAYING THERE'S A SECONDARY ASPECT TO IT TOO, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS TO BE COMPLIANT JUST FOR THAT, ALSO THAT ASPECT OF THIS. UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S ALL. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, TRAFFIC FLOW. UM, AND I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND FROM THE, THE NEW PLAN BY MOVING THE, THE ACCESS DRIVEWAY WEST DOWN VILLARD, DOWNHILL, WHICH, AND I RECOGNIZE THERE'S SOME, SOME ADVANTAGES TO DOING THAT. I THINK THAT MEANS IF I'M TRYING TO ACCESS THE DEVELOPMENT AND I'M COMING, I'M DRIVING NORTH ON BROADWAY FROM YONKERS, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, NOW. AND THAT WOULD MEAN TURNING A LEFT ON MAIN AND THEN A RIGHT EITHER ON WHITMAN OR ON WARBURTON TO THEN MAKE ANOTHER RIGHT ON VILLARD AND THEN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO HAS YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY CAPTURED THAT, WHAT I ASSUME WOULD BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, DOWN MAIN STREET AND PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, MOVING NORTH ON WHITMAN TO, TO ACCESS THE, THE PROPERTY? [00:55:01] SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE HAVE STUDIED THAT INTERSECTION? UH, YES. NO, NOT AS OFTEN. OKAY. BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE REPRESENTING IN WHAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED THAT THERE WAS NOT GONNA BE ANY TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON MAIN STREET OR IN THE VILLAGE. CORRECT. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BECAUSE BY TAKING AWAY THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT GOES INTO THE VILLARD BROADWAY INTERSECTION, NOW I'VE ONLY GOT, AGAIN, IF I'M MOVING NORTH AND IF I'M COMING FROM YONKERS, I'VE ONLY GOT ONE WAY TO GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S THROUGH THE VILLAGE, MAKING A RIGHT EITHER ON WHITMAN OR ON WARBURTON, RIGHT? OR ON MAIN. OR ON MAIN. WELL, I'M GOING LEFT DOWN MAIN OFF BROADWAY, AND I'VE GOT TO MAKE A RIGHT EITHER ON WHITMAN OR ONTO WARBURTON TO THEN MAKE ANOTHER RIGHT ON VILLARD AND IN. OR YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH AND THEN MAKE A LEFT ONTO WARBURTON AND THEN COME DOWN AGAIN. AND LOOP ALL THE WAY AROUND. YES. BUT IF I'M COMING FROM YONKERS, I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA DO THAT. POSSIBLE. OUR STUDY SHOWS THAT IN TOTAL AT ANY INTERSECTION, THERE WILL BE NOT MORE THAN 10 TRIPS AND DURING THE PEAK HOUR. AND THAT MORE THAN 10 TRIPS DOES NOT, WON'T MAKE ANY IMPACT. I THOUGH YOU SAID YOU HADN'T STUDIED THAT POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL FLOW. CORRECT. SO YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE TRIPS IT WOULD BE? NO, WE KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE REROUTED THE TRIPS AND BEFORE THERE WERE NOT MORE THAN 10 TRIPS. SO NOW THE TRIPS ARE NOT INCREASING. WE ARE JUST REROUTING THEM AGAIN. SO THAT WON'T INCREASE NUMBER OF TRIPS. HMM. FROM THE, FROM THE PREVIOUS PLAN TO THIS ONE, HOW MANY MORE TRIPS ARE THERE MAKING A RIGHT ONTO WHITMAN OFF OF MAIN TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY? UH, RIGHT ONTO... SO WE ARE NOT PUTTING UP ANY RIGHT ON WHITMAN BECAUSE CHRIS IS THAT, UH, IT'S ON, ON THE ONE WAY. WE ARE ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THEM WILL GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WARBURTON AND THEN MAKE A RIGHT WHICH WILL MAKE THREE TRIPS MORE ON WARBURTON GOING NORTH AND TWO TRIPS MORE ON WARBURTON GOING SOUTH. YOU'RE ASSUMING EVERYONE WILL GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THEIR WAY AND PASS WHITMAN AND MAKE A RIGHT ONTO WARBURTON? YES, BECAUSE - OKAY. THAT'S A ONE WAY STREET BETWEEN CHRIST ON, ON MAIN STREET BETWEEN CHRIS STREET. WH- WHITMAN IS A TWO WAY STREET. NO, IT'S NOT A ONE WAY. IT'S A TWO WAY STREET. WHITMAN'S TWO WAYS. BUT WE ARE STILL ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE WILL GO ALL THE WAY TO WARBURTON AND THEN MAKE A RIGHT. WELL, I, I, I WOULDN'T SHARE THAT ASSUMPTION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT IN THE IT MANUAL. DID YOU, AS PART OF THIS REDESIGN, DID YOU CONSIDER KEEPING THE TWO-WAY DRIVE, UH, GOING BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT EASTERN PART OF VILLARD IS A TWO-WAY, RIGHT? IT BECOMES A ONE-WAY, LIKE WHAT, 10 OR 20 FEET IN? DID YOU CONSIDER A TWO-WAY DRIVEWAY THAT WENT THAT DIRECTION SO THAT PEOPLE COULD ACCESS THE, THE SITE FROM BOTH WAYS FROM VILLARD AND THEN PUTTING THE CLUBHOUSE DOWN? DID YOU CONSIDER THAT OPTION AT ALL? WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE IN YOUR OPINION? NO, WE HAVE NOT STUDIED THAT. OKAY. COME UP TO THE MIC PLEASE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SHIFTING THE LOCATION? I JUST WANT TO MAK SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, IF YOU CONSIDER, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SECTION OF VILLARD AT THE TOP IS TWO-WAY STILL. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT. NO. IT'S, OH, THOUGHT IT, I THOUGHT - IT'S ONLY TWO WAY AT THE CORNER. IT'S ONLY TWO WAY AT THE CORNER. OKAY. IT'S TECHNICALLY ONE WAY, BUT IT'S AT THE CORNER. EAST AT THE CORNER. OH, IT'S ONLY ON THE EAST OF THE CORNER. OKAY, NEVERMIND. I, I MISUNDERSTOOD. I APOLOGIZE. I'LL TAKE YOU HOME TO ME. IT'S LITERALLY A TWO-WAY TO THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY. JUST TO THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE SIGNAGE IS. OKAY. IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY. IT'S ALL RIGHT. WHICH, UH, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I, YEAH, I GOT YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? UM, ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT THEN, LET ME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. UM, PLEASE, WHEN YOU, UH, APPROACH THE PODIUM, UH, RECORD YOUR NAME ON THE CLIPBOARD THERE AND PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. UH, AND AGAIN, WE'LL APPRECIATE YOU RESTRICTING YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AT A TIME, UM, SO EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK TONIGHT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. UH, MY NAME IS - WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, EVERYBODY. UH, PLEASE HOLD YOUR CONVERSATIONS IN THE AUDIENCE. AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HEAR IN THIS ROOM IF, IF THERE'S ANY CONVERSATION GOING ON, SO THANK YOU. YES, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS LEE ELLMAN. I'M A CONSULTING PLANNER, AND I'M WORKING WITH THE CONDOMINIUM AT, EXCUSE ME, 45 MAIN STREET. UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, THE BOARD, I THINK, MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS, THE DESIGN WAS SO FLAWED. I THINK THE WORDS THAT MR. BASS USED WAS THAT, UH, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO PICK AT THE THREADS AROUND THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. AND THAT [01:00:01] IT NEEDED A DIFFERENT DESIGN SOLUTION. WHAT I THINK HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD THIS EVENING IS NOT A DIFFERENT DESIGN SOLUTION, BUT A DOMINO THAT'S BEEN TURNED END FOR END. YOU BASICALLY HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S VERY MUCH LIKE THE BUILDING THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST MONTH, UH, WITH WHAT I WOULD CALL MINOR CHANGES. UH, CHRISTIE TERRACE IS STILL AN EXIT WITH A STEEP GRADE, UH, IMPACTING 45 MAIN STREET. UH, THE GARBAGE COLLECTION IS STILL ESSENTIALLY UNDER THE NOSE OF 45 MAIN STREET. UM, THE WHITMAN STREET HOMES WILL STILL HAVE A ONE STORY, UH, GARAGE WALL AND THREE STORIES OF, UM, UM, RESIDENCES ABOVE THEM, UH, AS THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY. BUT NOW NINE OF THE 12 HOMES ON, UM, ON WHITMAN WILL ALSO HAVE A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED RETAINING WALL BUILT BEHIND THEIR EXISTING RETAINING WALLS. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, DID NOT BRING UP AS A POTENTIAL ISSUE. UM, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, AS THE BOARD HAS, UH, NOTED, UH, HAS ASSIGNED A RATHER SMALL NUMBER OF, UM, UH, CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE. WHAT I THINK THEY HAVE NOT LOOKED AT, AND THE BOARD DID JUST, UH, SPEAK ABOUT IT, UH, WAS HOW PEOPLE GET TO VILLAGE. WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THIS PROJECT AND I PUT 16 VILLARD INTO MY GPS, IT TOOK ME DOWN WHITMAN TO, UM, VILLARD STREET. SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN RELATIVELY OFTEN. UM, THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT I SEE WITH THE MOST RECENT, UM, TRAFFIC, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE AMENDED TRAFFIC REPORT IS IT SHOWS ALL OF THE, UM, PEOPLE EXITING FROM, UM, THE CHRISTIE STREET E- EXIT, THE, THE, THE BACK EXIT, UM, GOING, MAKING A LEFT ONTO MAIN STREET, UH, LEFT ON WHITMAN ONTO MAIN STREET. ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, I LEARNED AS, AS A SENIOR CITIZEN, I'M NOT GONNA LIVE HERE, BUT AS A SENIOR CITIZEN TAKING A, UH, AARP SAFE DRIVING COURSE TO KNOCK A COUPLE OF POINTS OFF MY, UH, INSURANCE RATE, IS THAT SENIORS SHOULD NOT MAKE LEFT TURNS. AND ONE OF THE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL COME DOWN, UH, OUT OF THAT EXIT. THEY WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT MAIN STREET, AN UNSIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, AND THEY WILL DECIDE THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO GO. AND THAT IF THEY ARE LOOKING TO GO NORTH, THEY'RE GONNA GO UP WHITMAN STREET. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THE BOARD, I THINK, UNDERSTANDS ABOUT TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IS THAT TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IS ESSENTIALLY A, UM - I HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. IF YOU COULD WRAP UP, PLEASE. SURE. TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IS ESSENTIALLY FLUID DYNAMICS, TREATING, TREATING, UH, STREETS AS IF THEY WERE A SEWER PIPE. SO IS THERE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO PASS THE, UH, TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING OUT IN, IN THE PEAK HOURS? YES. BUT IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING UP THE CONGESTED STREETS ON WHITMAN AND THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING INTO THE VILLAGE IS NOT REALLY PICKED UP IN THE TRAFFIC REPORTS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A, UH, WRITTEN COPY OF YOUR TESTIMONY? I WILL SUBMIT IT, UH, UH, BY THE EMAIL. SUBMIT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. YES. I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW. THANK YOU. HI, I'M SUSAN KAHN. I LIVE AT 45 MAIN. UM, YOU ADDRESSED THE FIRST POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE, WHICH IS ABOUT WHITMAN, THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA TURN RIGHT ONTO WHITMAN. UM, SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT ALONE. THE, THE THING THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PLAN AND THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS IN GENERAL IS, ACCORDING TO THEM, THIS IS NOT THEIR FINAL THING. THEY DIDN'T DO THE DETAILS. WELL, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE ON THAT STREET, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO DO. SO THEN THE BUILDING NOW, IT'S A THREE-STORY BUILDING, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR DRAWINGS, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM WHITMAN, IT'S A FOUR-STORY BUILDING IN THEIR, IN THEIR ARTISTIC RENDERING. UM, THEY SAY THAT THERE'S A PUTTING GREEN. I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE. WHERE'S THE PUTTING GREEN? THE PLANS ABOUT CHRISTIE TERRACE ARE SO UNCLEAR. PEOPLE ALONG THE STREET AND ON 45 MAIN, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THINKING OF DOING. SO FOR ME, ALL THESE CONCERNS ARE CONNECTED TO A BROADER ONE. THE DEVELOPERS ARE ASKING TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE HUGE CHANGES, BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. TO ME, THEY SEEM SOMEWHAT DISINGEN - LIKE TO THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA TURN LEFT ON CHRISTIE TERRACE AND THAT THERE WILL BE ZERO CARS TURNING [01:05:01] RIGHT FROM CHRISTIE TERRACE OR FROM WHITMAN ONTO BULLARD ON, THAT'S... SO ON THE ONE HAND, I HOPE THAT YOU CUT DOWN ON THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE ONE UNIT, NOT SUCH A BIG CHANGE IN SCALE. UM, AND ON THE OTHER HAND, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEMAND INFORMATION, WHICH YOU SEEM TO HAVE DONE, ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE REALLY PLANNING TO DO AND ENSURE... WHERE'S THE SIGHT LINE STUDY THAT THEY KEPT TALKING ABOUT? BUILD ON INSURANCES, ASSURANCES INTO THE PROPOSAL SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY CAN BE HELD LIABLE IF THEY DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. UM, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. IT'S TO RICHARD BASS. SO, UM, I'M OVER 55, CLEARLY. SO AM I. YES. AND I DON'T HAVE VISITATION. I LIVE A LIFE. I GET THINGS DELIVERED TO ME. I GO OUT. I DRIVE. IT'S NOT JUST ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. LIKE THERE ARE GONNA BE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT BUILDING. IT'S FOR ACTIVE 55 AND OLDER. SO LET'S THINK ABOUT IT AS IF IT'S FOR PEOPLE IN GENERAL AND A COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MARK SAMITH, 555 BROADWAY. GOOD EVENING. UH, JUST A, UH, UH, START WITH AN OBSERVATION. THE PROPOSAL, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, TO COMBINE THE CLUBHOUSE AND TWO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES INTO ONE STRUCTURE RENDERS MEANINGLESS THE DEED RESTRICTION AGAINST RESIDENTS, RESIDENCES AT THE CORNER OF VILLARD. I, I CAN'T IMAGINE A COURT DENYING A REQUEST TO EX - TO EXTINGUISH THE RESTRICTION. MEANWHILE, THE NEW PROPOSAL LEAVES UNRESOLVED, VERY MANY OF THE ISSUES BROUGHT BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD IN PERSON AND IN WRITING AND INTRODUCES NEW ISSUES INCLUDING EVEN MORE MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, EVEN MORE VIEW OBSTRUCTION, AND THE INTRODUCTION OF GRASS PAVE, WHICH, UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE ISSUE RAISED BY MR. DIGGINS, UH, REQUIRES SPECIALIZED SNOWPLOW EQUIPMENT, METICULOUS ONGOING MAINTENANCE TO PREVENT CLOGGING AND PONDING, HAS BEEN KNOWN TO FAIL AND IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO CONTAMINATION FROM TRUCK OIL, WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT AN IDEAL OR EVEN STANDARD SURFACE, WHICH IS WHY IT REQUIRES SPECIAL APPROVAL. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NIBBLING AROUND THE EDGES. THE SOLUTION TO ALL THE, UH, ALL OF THE ISSUES, UH, IT SEEMS TO ME WAS EXPRESSED AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, BY MR. BASS, AND THAT'S TO BUILD ON THE GENERAL FOOTPRINT OF THE CURRENT SCHOOL BUILDING, UM, THEREBY FRONTING ONTO VILLARD, OBVIATING THE NECESSITY OF CHRISTIE AS A SECONDARY EGRESS PATH, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AN AERIAL ACCESS PATH, SOLVING THE SETBACK ISSUES EAST AND WEST, AND DECONFLICTING THE VIEW OBSTRUCTION ISSUE. I'M NOT SAYING I THINK THE BUILDING SHOULD BE SIX STORIES. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD, AND I HOPE THE 60 UNIT NUMBER DOESN'T BECOME A DEFACTO BENCHMARK BECAUSE THAT NUMBER BEARS NO RELATION TO WHAT THE LOT CAN APPROPRIATELY HOLD, BUT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SCHOOL DOES SEEM TO BE THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION. THANK YOU. GIVE ME MY EMAIL. HELLO. BROOKS BALLARD, SEVEN WHITMAN. UH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBERS PRESENTED. UH, WHY IS THIS NOT A FOUR-STORY BUILDING? THE MAIN ENTRY IS AT 120. YOU GO UP TO THE FIRST FLOOR, UP TO THE SECOND, IT'S FOUR FLOORS NOW. UH, NOT TO MENTION THAT I THINK THE ENTIRE, UH, GARAGE IS KIND OF, UH, EXPOSED. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A FOUR-STORY BUILDING NOW. IT'S ALL CONNECTED. IT GOES UP FOUR FLIGHTS OF STAIRS. SO, UH, LET'S SEE. SHOULDN'T THE GRASS PAVERS, THE EXTRA PARKING, SHOULDN'T THAT BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE? IF IT IS, THEN THAT TAKES THAT ALL THE WAY UP TO 64%, WAY OVER 50%. SO THAT IS ANOTHER VARIANCE. THERE'S TWO, TWO MORE VARIANCES THERE. FLOOR AREA RATIO. IS THE PARKING CONSIDERED PART OF THAT? SO ACCESSORY BUILDING? THAT WOULD PUT IT, UH, [01:10:01] AT 1.02, A LOT OVER 0.75. SO AGAIN, THAT'S A THIRD VARIANCE RIGHT THERE. SO I THINK THEY'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO AND I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO PUSH THEM A LITTLE MORE. THANK YOU. UM, HELLO. I'M KAITLYN MEAL. I LIVE AT TWO WHITMAN STREET. THAT'S THE SMALL STUCCO HOME DIRECTLY - CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? SURE. SORRY, THIS IS BEING TRANSCRIBED. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. KAITLYN MEAL, I LIVE AT TWO WHITMAN STREET, AND THAT'S THE SMALL STUCCO HOME DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE CURRENT SCHOOL BUILDING, UM, WHICH NOW IN THE LATEST REVISIONS IS REALLY IMPACTED ON ALL SIDES ONCE YOU CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC DOWN WHITMAN. UM, MY HUSBAND AND I AND MY TWO DAUGHTERS, WE ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT SOME DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. WE'VE LIVED WITH A VACANT BUILDING IN OUR BACKYARD FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS, AND, UM, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE. THE LACK OF ANSWERS TODAY AS WELL AS HOW QUICKLY SOME OF THIS HAS, JUST SOME OF THE PROBLEMS FROM THE OTHER SIDE SEEM TO NOW BE ALL LANDING ON THE OTHER END OF THE BLOCK, UM, CONCERNS ME THAT, UM, WE DON'T SAY YES TOO QUICKLY TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEEN, UM, THOUGH THROUGH WITH SUITABILITY TO OUR, UM, BLOCK AND, AND SMALL VILLAGE. UM, I DID TYPE THIS UP ORIGINALLY BECAUSE I THOUGH I'D LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, BUT, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE REVISION AROUND TENANTS AND ENTER, BEING ABLE TO ENTER THE PROPERTY SITE FROM BROADWAY, UM, THE ENTRANCES RELOCATION TO VILLARD NEAR WHITMAN WILL ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY BRING A MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW DOWN THE RESIDENTIAL BLOCK IN ADDITION TO THE EXITING TRAFFIC, UM, THAT MAY STILL COME FROM CHRISTIE TERRACE. UM, AT LEAST THE FIRST DRAFT GAVE THE ABILITY FOR TENANTS TO ACCESS THE APARTMENT BUILDING WITHOUT TRAVELING ON WHITMAN. I THINK THE QUESTION'S ALREADY ON THIS POINT, BUT MY DRIVEWAY'S NOT FAR FROM THE NEW ENTRANCE AND MY 10 YEARS OF PERSONAL HABIT AND OBSERVATION IS THAT YOU, YOU'RE COMING FROM THE SOUTH, YOU'RE GOING TO TURN LEFT ON MAIN AND RIGHT ONTO WHITMAN. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH TOWN AND SLOW DOWN OR GO, YOU KNOW, SIT AT TWO MORE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. UM, THE MOST PERSONAL TO US IN THIS REVISION IS THE LOSS OF THE GREEN SPACE. UM, BECAUSE IT WASN'T DEVELOPED IN THE FIRST DRAFT, I THOUGH THE DEVELOPERS AT LEAST RECOGNIZE THE ASSET THE SPACE IS TO THEIR SITE AND WHAT IT CAN OFFER THEIR TENANTS WITHOUT BUILDING YET ANOTHER AMENITY. UM, FOR THOSE ACTIVE GRANDPARENTS AND RETIREES, THE LAWN IS PERFECT FOR RESTLESS YOUNG KIDS TO RUN AROUND. THERE ARE FIREFLIES TO CATCH IN THE SUMMER. IT'S WELL SUITED TO READING, PICNICS QUIETLY SITTING TO VIEW THE PALISADES. KNOWING THAT IN ITS PLACE THERE'LL BE PARKING SPOTS IS REALLY UNREAL AND EVEN MORE INSULTING TO US AS AN INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD THAT THE PARKING'S ORIENTATION IS TO OUR BEDROOMS AND LIVING AND DINING ROOMS, UM, IN THE FRONT HERE. THEY'RE A SMALL NUMBER, BUT, UM, SO TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS ALREADY, IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL THAT, UH, THE BEST DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN, OR THE MOST SUITABLE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR THE SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN YOU SUBMIT THAT, UH, WHAT YOU WROTE TO THE BOARD? SHE DIDN'T HEAR YOU. MA'AM, CAN YOU SUBMIT THAT TO THE, TO THE BOARD PLEASE? THANK YOU. HELLO. I'M LAUREN BERMAN. I'M A RESIDENT AT 45 MAIN STREET. MORE THAN 75% OF OUR 25-UNIT CONDOMINIUM IS FULLY OR PARTLY OCCUPIED BY SOMEBODY AGE 55 PLUS. AND WE HAVE A HIGH VOLUME OF VEHICLES IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING DAILY. RESIDENTS, CONTRACTORS, DELIVERIES, VISITORS, VENDORS. 45 MAIN STREET IS A SORT OF CASE STUDY OF THE TYPE OF BUILDING LIFESTYLE PROPO- PROPOSED, THOUGH CONSIDERABLY SMALLER AND DIFFERENT IN THAT WE ARE OWNER OCCUPIED. THE LARGEST CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT 16 VILAR PROJECT ARE CREATING A ROADWAY OUT OF WHAT IS PRESENTLY A DRIVEWAY AND WOODED GREENWAY, AND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF DOING SO. CREATING A TWO-WAY ROADWAY OUT OF CHRISTIE TERRACE AND USING IT AS AN EXIT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT CREATES A LOSS OF THE REFUSE SITE FOR 45 MAIN, A LOSS OF A VERY ACTIVE LOADING ZONE FOR 45 MAIN, A VERY SERIOUS RISK OF VEHICLES HITTING 45 MAIN ON THE NORTH SIDE AT EXIT. THE PLANS DO NOT INCLUDE A DIAGRAM THAT TURNS ARE VIABLE FOR TRUCKS, NOR IS THE GRADING OF THE WOODED AREA TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. THERE IS ALSO THE REASONABLE QUESTION OF [01:15:01] LAND DEGRADATION, SOIL EROSION AND WATER LOGGING FROM RAISING THE WOODED GREENWAY AND SLOPING THE LAND TO PAVE A ROAD IN A GREEN AREA THAT ALREADY BECOMES A WATERFALL INTO THE 45 MAIN GARAGE AND DOWN WHITMAN STREET WHEN IT RAINS. THERE ARE MANY BLIND SPOTS WHEN DRIVING AND ALSO WALKING ON WHITMAN, AND IT IS OFTEN A VERY DANGEROUS STREET, PARTICULARLY AT DUSK WHEN THERE IS A HIGH VOLUME OF CARS IN AND OUT OF THE VFW HALL ACROSS FROM THE 45 MAIN STREET DRIVEWAY. THE RECENT VILLAGE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY STUDY HIGHLIGHTS THE AREA AROUND WHITMAN AND MAINE AS PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS. THERE ARE EIGHT RESIDENTS FROM 45 MAIN HERE TONIGHT AND MORE WHO CANNOT MAKE IT, WHO SHARE THESE CONCERNS AND HAVE THOSE OF THEIR OWN. THANK YOU. I DID. CAN I SCROLL? CAN WE LOOK AT THE... THIS THING. SEE THIS? THIS IS AI SLOT. I'M NEIL APATEL, 24 WHITMAN STREET. THIS IS AI GENERATED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL VERSION THEY SUBMITTED, UH, TO US, IT WAS VERY NOTICEABLE AI SLOT. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST EMBLEMATIC OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT, WHICH APPEARS TO BE A MATH PROJECT TO SOLVE VARIANCE DISPUTES INSTEAD OF BEING GOOD MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WAS A REALLY BAD LAWYER AND I JUST CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU END UP SAYING THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO NOT JUDGES, YOU'RE IN A BAD SPOT. DRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE. AND THE SOLUTION TO THE ACCESS PROBLEMS OF PUTTING A GRASS DRIVEWAY IN MY BACKYARD SO GARBAGE TRUCKS CAN GO DOWN AT ONCE A WEEK IS LIKE PURE NONSENSE. AND THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS AN EXERCISE IN TRYING TO SHOVE A BUILDING THAT DOES NOT FIT THE SPACE OR COMMUNITY INTO THAT SPACE INSTEAD OF TAKING THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER FROM THE BEGINNING, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO DO LAST TIME. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO HOLD FIRM INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT OBVIOUS AI GENERATED PUZZLE SOLUTIONS TO FIND A REAL SOLUTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. CAN WE GET THAT NAME? THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. I'M FRANCIS MILLIKEN FROM 45 MAIN STREET. A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, SO I WON'T SAY IT AGAIN. SAVES YOU THE, UH, TIME. I THINK I WANNA MAKE TWO MAJOR POINTS, ONE OF WHICH HAS SORT OF BEEN MADE. UM, THE OTHER NOT SO MUCH. I, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY, AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY BE DONE. UM, AS WAS JUST SAID, 45 MAIN STREET HAS 25 UNITS. MANY OF US ARE OVER THE AGE OF 55. WE DON'T GET VISITATIONS. WE ACTUALLY LIVE LIVES AND WE'RE VERY ACTIVE AND OUR CARS GO IN AND OUT OF THAT GARAGE ALL THE TIME. THAT'S THE FIRST POINT. I DON'T BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS, UH, ADEQUATE. THE SECOND STUDY, UH, SECOND POINT I WANNA MAKE IS ALSO BEEN MADE SLIGHTLY, WHICH IS CHRISTIE TERRACE. WE TALK ABOUT IT AS IF IT'S A STREET, RIGHT? IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A STREET YET, UM, BUT IT IS OUR DRIVEWAY TO 45 MAIN STREET. IT IS WHERE OUR DELIVERY TRUCKS PARK. IT IS WHERE OUR CONTRACTS, UH, CONTRACTOR TRUCKS PARK. IT IS WHERE WE ENTER OUR GARAGE. IT IS WHERE OUR GARBAGE I- IS, UH, PICKED UP BY, BY THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT. IF THIS IS GOING TO BECOME A STREET, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. WHERE WILL OUR GARBAGE BE PICKED UP? WHERE WILL OUR CONTRACT TRUCKS PARK? WHERE WILL OUR DELIVERY TRUCKS PARK? ARE THEY GONNA DOUBLE PARK ON MAIN STREET ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER CARS THAT ARE DOUBLE PARKED ON MAIN STREET? SO I FEEL LIKE NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THIS PLAN, UM, AND I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO ASK FOR MORE DETAILS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AUSTINA YUSO. I LIVE AT 28 CALUMET AVENUE, ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE WALK FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I HAVE NO BUSINESS OR PERSONAL CONNECTION TO THE DEVELOPER OR ANY OF THE PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED. I ONLY LEARNED ABOUT THE PROJECT THIS PAST WEEKEND AND MY FIRST REACTION WAS GOOD IDEA. I THEN SPENT SOME TIME LOOKING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS AND READING THE COMMENTS FROM THE AUGUST MEETING. I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS AND I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. FIRST, I BELIEVE THIS IS A VERY GOOD FIT FOR THIS PARTICULAR, PARTICULAR LOCATION. HASTINGS IS A RELATIVELY COMPACT VILLAGE, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ONE OF ITS GREATEST STRENGTHS. ADDING RESIDENTS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF OUR SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATIONS, AND OTHER AMENITIES CAN HELP SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CONTRIBUTE TO A MORE VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. SECOND, I DON'T BELIEVE A THREE-STORY BUILDING IS INHERENTLY OUT OF SCALE WITH ITS SURROUNDINGS. I READ SOME RATHER STRONG CRITICISMS OF THIS... OF THE PROPOSALS. I HEARD SOME MORE TONIGHT, [01:20:01] BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DE - ENTIRELY FAIR. I ACTUALLY FIND THE SCALE QUITE REASONABLE FOR THIS LOCATION. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT A 55 PLUS RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IS PARTICULARLY WELL SUITED FOR... TO THIS SITE. I WOULD EXPECT THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE RELATIVELY QUIET AND TO HAVE A FAIRLY MODEST IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. FINALLY, I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A BETTER USE OF A PROPERTY THAT'S SO WELL LOCATED, CLOSE TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND THE HEART OF OUR VILLAGE. DEVELOPING A SIMILAR PROJECT ON A MORE REMOTE SITE WOULD LIKELY PRESENT A DIFFERENT SET OF CHALLENGES. I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE CAN BE DIFFICULT, AND I RESPECT THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS OF MY NEIGHBORS, BUT I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A THOUGHTFUL OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME NEW RESIDENTS, SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND MAKE GOOD USE OF AN UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY. FOR THOSE REASONS, I HOPE THE PLANNING BOARD WILL LOOK FAVORABLY UPON THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. SURE. PAULA, IS THIS THE EMAIL YOU SENT TODAY? NO, I HAVEN'T SENT THAT. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME'S, UH, DENNIS CHAWINSKI. I'M A PRESIDENT OF 555 BROADWAY, HASTINGS TERRACE. UM, I JU - I... A LOT OF THE POINTS ALREADY RAISED TODAY THAT I ECHO, UM, I... FROM, UH, OTHER CRITICISMS. UM, I, I, I SAT IN THE THREE, THE, THIS IS THE THIRD MEETING. I, I WAS PRESENT FOR ALL THREE, AND I JUST FEEL THAT, UM, ALL THE ITERATIONS I'VE SEEN OR JUST SEEM REALLY DISINGENUOUS OF, OF NEW PROPOSALS OR NEW... THEY JUST SEEM TO BE SHIFTING THE BUILDING THIS WAY, THAT WAY. THEY'RE NOT TAKING THE SUGGESTION OF MAYBE REDUCING THE SOLID MASS OF THIS... IT'S A HUGE FOOTPRINT FOR, FOR THAT SITE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL, I'M FOR HAVING A, YOU KNOW, SEEING SOMETHING GOOD GO IN THERE FOR WHETHER IT BE 55 PLUS OR SUCH, BUT, UM, TH- THIS JUST SEEMS TOO BIG, AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA ECHO THAT. AND WHY, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE 60 UNITS, YOU KNOW? THAT, THAT'S A BIG THING THAT JUST STANDS OUT IN MY MIND. UM, AND IT'S NOT A RETIREMENT HOME. THEY KEEP PAINTING, PAINTING THIS PICTURE LIKE THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA BE MOVING AROUND. I'M 50 YEARS OLD AND I'M GETTING CLOSE TO 55, AND I'M VERY ACTIVE, AND I PLAN TO BE ACTIVE, HOPEFULLY. IT JUST... THAT, THAT... IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IN THIS DRAWING ITSELF IS, IS NOT... THIS DRAWING, THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING KEEPS SHRINKING EVERY TIME THEY PUT IN A NEW PLAN IN, AND, UM, I'M AN ARTIST, AND I, I, I CAN TELL THE PROPORTIONS ARE NOT CORRECT, SO THAT TO ME IS JUST, IT JUST LEAVES A BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO... FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GONNA BE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND JUST, ALSO JUST DELIVERY TRUCKS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS EVER ADDRESSED OR BROUGHT UP, HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE ENTERING AND EXITING THIS, THIS, THIS... UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL DRIVEWAY THERE, AND I COULD JUST SEE THESE PEOPLE ARE GO - YOU KNOW, JUST WE IN 555 BROADWAY, WE GET A LOT OF DELIVERY TRUCKS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS RAISED AS WELL, BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAD AND, UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST A SOLID MESS AND NOTHING WAS REALLY BROUGHT TO BREAK THAT UP OR TAKE THE BOARD'S SUGGESTIONS, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I'M STEPHANIE KIRPIN. I LIVE AT 25 WHITMAN STREET. UM, I ALSO ECHO THE CRITICISMS, UM, SO I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK WEREN'T BROUGHT UP. UM, IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE HERE COINED THE PHRASE LIKE VILLAGE WITHIN A VILLAGE, AND THAT EFFECT I THINK ALSO STILL NEEDS ATTENTION WHERE THERE ARE THESE PRIVATE AMENITIES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED WHILE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE... WHILE THEY'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UM, PROPOSING A COMMUNITY THAT WILL BECOME PART OF OUR COMMUNITY STRENGTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH PRIVATE AMENITIES, YOU HAVE MUCH LESS OF THAT THAN MORE OF THAT. AND ALSO IN THE CLUBHOUSE, IS THERE GONNA BE FOOD, RESTAURANT, COMPETING WITH OUR BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE SAYING TRYING TO HELP? I DON'T KNOW, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE TRAFFIC, AGAIN, ECHOING EVERYONE, BUT, UM, ALSO JUST 100% OF THE TIME PEOPLE WILL BE GOING DOWN WHITMAN, UM, IN ORDER TO GET TO VILLARD. IT'S ALREADY A CUT THROUGH, AND I HAVE VIDEOS I CAN ALWAYS SHARE OF WALKING OUR KID TO SCHOOL EACH DAY, AND THEN ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET IN THE AFTERNOONS, THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THE VFW [01:25:01] FROM THE DANCE CLASSES, AND THEN EVERYONE KIND OF COMING FROM MAINE, CUTTING THROUGH, AGAIN, CAN SHOW VIDEOS. AND THEN, UM, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ALSO WHO HAS AN OLDER KID, UH, WANTED TO POINT OUT THE, THAT THE BUS STOP IS, LIKE, RIGHT IN THIS WHOLE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM, SO THAT IS WHERE THE KIDS ARE EVERY SINGLE MORNING. UM, I THINK IT'S WHAT CORNER OF WHITMAN AND VILLARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO... WHITMAN. CORNER OF MAINE AND WHITMAN. THANK YOU. UM, HI, I'M SANDRA YEE, AND I LIVE AT 50 WHITMAN STREET, WHICH IS THE HOUSE RIGHT ON THE END THAT IS, UM, NEXT TO CHRISTIE TERRACE. UM, WHERE MY HOUSE IS, THERE IS NO CURB, AND I AGREE WITH ALL MY NEIGHBORS HERE AT 50, AT 45 MAIN AND ON WHITMAN STREET ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITH THE TRAFFIC. I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE VFW. THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT DECIDE THAT THEY CAN PARK ON MY LAWN, THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS FROM DELIVERING EVEN DOWN AT BREAD AND BRINE THAT DECIDE THAT THEY CAN PARK IN MY DRIVEWAY OR ON MY LAWN, UM, IS A BIG CONCERN. IT'S NOISY. PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS ON MY LAWN, AND I'M CONCERNED WITH THE AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC, CAR TRAFFIC, AND ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL STUFF. SO, I AGREE WITH ALL MY NEIGHBORS. I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY PERSPECTIVE LIVING IN THAT LOCATION. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN OR PREPARED, BUT THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC? I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. A COUPLE OF, UM, RESIDENTS RAISED THE ISSUE OF THE FACT THAT THE AMENITIES WOULD BE PRIVATE AMENITIES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M CURIOUS WHETHER THE APPLICANT'S GIVEN THOUGH TO MAKING ANY OF THOSE AMENITIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. HI, ANUK MISRA. ARE YOU ASKING US A QUESTION TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING TODAY, OR? NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S, IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE, THE PUBLIC POINTED OUT, WOULD, UM, OFFER AMENITIES ONLY AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMPLEX. I'M CURIOUS WHETHER YOU'VE GIVEN THOUGH AS TO WHETHER IT'S A BOCHE COURT OR A PART AND GREEN OR A CLUBHOUSE OR WHATEVER IT IS, UH, INCLUDING, UM, ACCESS TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO THOSE AMENITIES. SO, I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY WHAT THAT'LL IMPACT, BUT CLEARLY OUR INSURANCE AND LIABILITY ISSUES WILL GO UP. MR. CHAIR, CAN I PIGGYBACK ON YOUR QUESTION? SURE. ONE MOMENT PLEASE. IF IT'S GONNA BE A SENIOR FACILITY, WILL THERE BE NON-RESIDENTS, UH, UH, UTILIZING, UH, ANY OF THOSE SENIOR FACILITIES ON THE SITE? UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, I GUESS, LIKE, GUESTS COMING? NO, IF THERE WAS SENIOR CLASSES... AGAIN, THIS IS A 55 AND ABOVE. YEAH. UM, UH, IT'S NOT EXACTLY AN ALF, BUT, UH, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW LIVES IN AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT PEOPLE COME FROM THE OUTSIDE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CLASSES, THE, THE MEALS, THE SERVICES, UH, THAT ARE OFFERED TO THE RESIDENTS. WILL THOSE SA- SAME SERVICES BE OFFERED TO, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC OF THE SAME AGE? I, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL... I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU. UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING OPERATIONALLY THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED AT THIS POINT. UM, I THINK IT ALL REALLY DEPENDS ULTIMATELY AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT AMENITY SPACES WE DO END UP HAVING AS A RESULT OF THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, WHAT THE BUILDING HAS, WHAT OUR OUT- OUTDOOR AMENITIES ARE AS WELL. SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, WE CONSIDER WHAT PROGRAMMING, I GUESS, THIS BE- BEST TERM IS PROGRAMMING WOULD BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THEM. I'M NOT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST, BUT - UH-HUH. IF THEY ARE OFFERED, THAT DOES, UH, IMPACT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE VISITING. SO AGAIN, MORE INFORMATION, UH, BASED ON PROGRAM AND NON-PROGRAM. OKAY. [01:30:02] OKAY. UM, YEAH. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO WITH THE QUESTION? UM, NO, NO. I THINK I'M ALL SET. OKAY. UNLESS YOU STILL HAVE YOUR QUESTION OPEN. UM, NO. I, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST OBSERVING THAT, UM... SORRY. SORRY, YOU JUST THREW IT OUT THERE FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ONLY BE OFFERING, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE AMENITIES SUITED SITUATED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VILLAGE, WHICH I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY IS SOMEWHAT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH WHAT'S DOWNTOWN NOW, WITH THERE BEING THAT EXCLUSIVE ACCESS TO THAT COMMUNITY. AND SO, YEAH, AGAIN, I WAS PURELY CURIOUS WHETHER YOU ALL GIVEN THOUGHT TO MAKING SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. UM, YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK EVEN TO THE, CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION, EVEN IF IT'S A SPACE. I KNOW BARBERTON HAS HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS IN TERMS OF THEIR LOCATION, WHICH IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT IN A WAY, UH, BEING NEAR THE TRAIN STATION. BUT, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT WE MAY, MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO. THANK YOU. UM, ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? WE HAVE TWO MORE MEMBERS FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WANT TO SPEAK UP. OH, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH. COME ON UP. YEAH. HI, ESTELLA AND 32 WHITMAN. UM - YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE WIDER, DEAR. ESTELLA N 32 WHITMAN. UM, I AGREE WITH ALL MY NEIGHBORS AT, ON WHITMAN STREET AND 45 MAIN AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY IT'S UNDERSTOOD ABOUT. THE BUSES ARE TWO SETS OF BUSES. THERE'S EARLY BUS AND LATE BUS AND ALSO NO BUSES AFTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO STUDENTS ARE ALSO WALKING AND THE LACK OF SIDEWALK ON THE TURN AT THE VFW AT CHRISTIE TERRACE IS ALREADY REALLY DANGEROUS. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S REALLY STUDIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI. AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR INPUT AND THANK YOU, RICHARD BESS. UM, MY NAME IS PAM ZAHN. I'M AT FIF - 555 BROADWAY AND I AM 75 AND I'M VERY ACTIVE. AND 555 IS WONDERFUL. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER 60 APARTMENTS ON TOP OF 120, WHICH MAKES 180 UNITS. HOW MANY PEOPLE IS THAT AND HOW IS IT ALSO GOING TO IMPACT OUR, OUR SERVICES, OUR UTILITIES, THE TRAFFIC. AND MY KID IS THROUGH WITH SCHOOL. HOUSE HAS BEEN SOLD AND I MOVED IN THERE. UM, I REALLY, I, I SAID IT THE LAST TIME, AND I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN, I, THIS IS THE WRONG SITE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A GREAT IDEA. FIND ANOTHER SITE IN HASTINGS. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS ICY OUT AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE ICY, YOU THINK THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK TO TOWN? COME ON. THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING HARD TO FIND SOMETHING CORRECT, BUT A LOT LOWER TOO. AND IT'S ALSO GONNA IMPACT MY, UM, A NUMBER OF US, OUR VIEW. AND THAT IS, WOULD BE UNCONSCIONABLE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I SELECTED THAT PLACE. PLUS I'VE BEEN HERE. I GREW, I WAS BORN IN WHITE PLAINS. I GREW UP HERE. I HAD FAMILY WHO LIVED HERE YEARS AGO. AND I KNOW EVERYTHING'S CHANGING. SO I'VE WATCHED WESTCHESTER GROW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THIS EVENING, SIR? MY NAME IS DAVID KATZENBERG. I LIVE AT 565 BROADWAY. I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT KIND OF MORE ON A MACRO LEVEL. I'M NOT GONNA COMMENT ON THE SPECIFICS. I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS VILLAGE DO NOT WANT THIS. THE PEOPLE OF 45 MAINE DO NOT WANT THIS. THE PEOPLE ON WHITMAN DO NOT WANT THIS. AND THE PEOPLE IN HASTINGS TERRACES DO NOT WANT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE COMMENTS [01:35:01] FROM THE PUBLIC THIS EVENING? KEVIN MCNAMARA. OKAY. UH, I LIVE AT, UH, 565 BROADWAY, APARTMENT 1C. SO TWO MONTHS HAS PASSED SINCE THE LAST MEETING WHERE THEY WERE GIVEN, UH, SUGGESTIONS BY MR. BASS AND THEY DIDN'T MOVE ON IT. THEY CAME UP WITH ANOTHER PROJECT WHICH STILL IS A HUGE BUILDING THAT'S GONNA AFFECT PEOPLE'S VIEWS AND THEY'VE DONE NOTHING IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE'S VIEWS. OKAY? WE ALL KNOW SOMETHING'S GONNA BE BUILT HERE. AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM IF THEY WOULD WORK WITH US AND WE CAN SPEED UP THE PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. INDEED, THEY NEVER, LIKE MR. BASS SAID, EVEN CHALLENGED IT OR, UM, EXPLORED WHAT ELSE CAN BE PUT THERE. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I, I WANNA SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WORKED YOURSELF UP TO IT? YEAH, IT TOOK A LOT TO CHALLENGE. IT REALLY DID. AND I'M JUST GONNA REITERATE. MY, MY NAME'S ANDREW CRAIG AND I LIVE AT 565 BROADWAY. I'M KEVIN'S NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE HALL. ANYWAYS, UM, I TAKE METRO NORTH CONSTANTLY, AT LEAST TWICE, UH, THREE TIMES A WEEK. I'M RETIRED SCHOOL TEACHER AND I VISIT MY, MY FOUR GROWN CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN MANHATTAN IN NEW YORK CITY AND I TAKE METRO NORTH. IT'S LOVELY. IT'S A GREAT WALK. I DON'T TAKE MY CAR. I WALK DOWN THERE. UH, CROSSING, UM, EXCUSE ME, I JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE I GET THE STREETS CORRECTLY. UM, VILLARD AND, EXCUSE ME, WHITMAN AND MAIN STREET, UH, S- SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS ON THAT STREET WERE SAYING THEIR CH - THEIR CHILDREN ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC. UH, ME AS A PEDESTRIAN, I'M ALWAYS, UH, LEERY OF GETTING HIT. UM, I MEAN, I WALK THE CITY STREETS AND I HAVE L - AN EASIER TIME OF CROSSING A CITY INTERSECTION THAN I DO IN HASTINGS AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY THERE NEAR BREAD AND BRINE. UH, USUALLY IT'S OKAY, BUT I CAN JUST IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, MY IMAGINATION IS GOING, THIS COULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NEED, UH, A LIGHTSABER OF MOSES TO GET ACROSS CERTAIN STREETS, YOU KNOW. AND, UM, IN- INCLUDING THE TRAFFIC, UH, HIGHER RATES OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE ON, UM, EXCUSE ME AGAIN, YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE THIS MEMORIZED, UH, VILLARD AND WARBURTON, CROSSING, UH, CROSSING WARBURTON. ANYWAY, JUST THE SAFETY THING. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE LESS UNITS WOULD HELP, LESS PEOPLE, LESS TRAFFIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS THIS EVENING? OKAY, LET ME MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS THEN TO TRY TO WRAP UP. UM, YOU KNOW, THREE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS UP HERE. TONIGHT WE'RE ALSO ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE, AND I DO WANT TO OBSERVE THAT THIS PROJECT IN MANY WAYS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN SO FAR THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE, UH, MORE OPTIONS FOR SENIOR LIVING IN THE VILLAGE. I THINK AS MUCH AS ANY THEME WE HEARD IN THAT COMMITTEE THAT THEY CONTINUED TO COME THROUGH THAT FOLKS WANTED MORE OPTIONS TO AGE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, IN HASTINGS. AND IT ALSO PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MORE INDENSER RESIDENTIAL LIVING IN OUR DOWNTOWN, WHICH CAN HAVE ECONOMIC ACT- ACTIVITY, UM, BENEFITS AND, AND, AND RESIDENTS CLOSER TO TRANSPORTATION, UM, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UH, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL. UM, AND I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT I THINK THE APPLICANT'S BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO COMMENTS THAT WE GAVE AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, AND THAT THIS DESIGN BEFORE, OR APPLICATION BEFORE US TONIGHT IS AN IMPROVEMENT IN MANY WAYS, UM, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK I HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE, WE DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A CLEAR VIEW OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT YET. UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING THE, THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION WEST DOWN BILLARD AND MAKING IT TWO-WAY, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS FROM THAT, BUT I THINK IT ALSO DRAMATICALLY CHANGES SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW. IN PARTICULAR, UH, AS WE THINK ABOUT TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, COMING OFF BROADWAY AND BEING ROUTED EFFECTIVELY THROUGH THE VILLAGE AND RIGHT DOWN WHITMAN STREET, UM, TO THE ENTRANCE. AND THERE WOULD BE OTHER WAYS TO ACCESS IT, BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK MANY OF US BELIEVE [01:40:01] IT'S LIKELY THAT A LOT OF DRIVERS WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, CHOOSE WHITMAN. AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN WHAT THAT, THAT IMPACT WOULD BE YET. AND SO I WANNA SUGGEST THAT WE INVITE THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A MORE ROBUST TRAFFIC STUDY THAT REALLY DRILLS DOWN A BIT ON IMPACTS OF PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS, I WOULD SAY MORE THAN JUST THEORETICAL PEAK HOURS, YOU KNOW, UM, HOPEFULLY, AND, AND REALLY ADDRESS HOW THAT CHANGING THE, THE, THE ACCESS AND THE DRIVEWAY IS GONNA IMPACT TRAFFIC, NOT JUST ON THAT BLOCK, BUT ALL AROUND THE VILLAGE AND AROUND THE DOWNTOWN. UM, I ALSO THINK THE ISSUE MOS SQUARELY BEFORE THIS BOARD IS VIEW PRESERVATION, AND WE KNOW THIS PROPOSED THREE STORY STRUCTURE IS GONNA HAVE, UM, A FEW OBSTRUCTIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO DOWN A PATH OF DOING MORE ANALYSIS OF VIEW PRESERVATION JUST TO SEE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. THERE'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT VIEW OBSTRUCTIONS, AND WE KNOW THAT A S - THAT A TWO STORY STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE FEWER OBSTRUCTIONS, AND WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A VIEW PRESERVATION ORDINANCE WHICH REQUIRES AT LEAST POSSIBLE OBSTRUCTION OF VIEWS. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THIS BOARD TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO PUSH FURTHER AND, AND SHOW US WHAT A TWO STORY, UM, DESIGN LOOKS LIKE. WE'VE HEARD A DOWNSIDE IS A COVERAGE VARIANCE, AND I THINK WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TRADE-OFFS TO MAKE, AND THE ISSUE BEFORE THIS BOARD, AMONG OTHERS, IS VIEW PRESERVATION. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF IT'S TWO STORIES, I WOULD SAY BOTH WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS AND A FEWER NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, BECAUSE S- SURELY FEWER UNITS IS GONNA MINIMIZE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, WHICH IS, I THINK, OUR OTHER MOST, ONE OF OUR MORE SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHAT I SUGGEST, UM, WE ASK THE APPLIC- APPLICANT TO COME BACK WITH, BUT I INVITE MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT. YEAH, I AGREE. UM, I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THE COM - UM, COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE COMMITTEE. UM, AND YEAH, UM, HASTINGS HAS THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF SENIOR CITIZENS IN, OF THE RIVER TOWNS, AND, UM, UH, WHICH IS GREAT, UM, BUT IT, WHAT'S, WE DO HAVE A SHORTAGE OF TRANSITIONAL LIVING, AND SO, UM, UM, SO IN THAT, IN THAT, THAT RESPECT, I REALLY DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. UM, UM, SO, AND I DO, I AGREE WITH, UH, WITH DAVE THAT I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. I, I DO THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE THE TWO STORY OPTION. UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU WERE DO - USING STANDARD PROTOCOLS AND I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOUR WORK. UM, I MADE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION TO YOUR COLLEAGUE, OUR FIRST MEETING. UM, I SUGGEST YOU GO TO WHITMAN AND REALLY LOOK AT IT. UM, IT IS, I, I MOVED TO THIS VILLAGE FIVE YEARS AGO AND DROVE DOWN THAT STREET ONCE AND, AND WAS LIKE, "I'M NEVER DRIVING DOWN DOWN THE STREET AGAIN," BECAUSE, UM, I WAS WORRIED I WAS GONNA HIT A KID OR I WAS GONNA SWIPE A CAR. UM, IT IS, IT'S, I THINK IT'S WORSE THAN YOU REALLY THINK IT IS. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY GO AND, AND LOOK AT IT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM US? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH SITE. UH, AND I WOULD ECHO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS' COMMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO TO THE EFFECT THAT I THINK MANY OF US ARE SUPPORTIVE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN BRING VITALITY TO THE VILLAGE, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE, THE PROJECT IS ATTEMPTING TO DO. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION AND ALSO JUST THE, THE GEOMETRY OF THE SITE, THIS IS, THIS IS VERY TOUGH, AND I THINK THAT WE MAY NEED A, ANOTHER TURN OR TWO. SO, YEAH, THANKS. YEAH, SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR FEEDBACK IS CRYSTALLIZED, YOU KNOW, AROUND A FEW KEY POINTS, AND I HOPE THE FEEDBACK IS CLEAR AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ALL COMING BACK AND, AND PRESENTING A REVISED APPLICATION FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHERE'S MY SCRIPT? . UM, SO WE HAVE NO OTHER MATTERS FOR THE AGENDA TONIGHT. THE MEETING IS STILL ACTIVE AND QUIET. PLEASE MAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE. UM, I DIDN'T DO IT. YOU, YOU ALL WANT TO MISS THIS GRAND FINALE. UM, WE HAVE NO OTHER MATTERS FOR THE AGENDA TONIGHT. OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 19TH, 2026. SO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. SO MOVED. SECOND. NOW YOU CAN CALL. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.