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EVERYBODY.[Call to Order]
TO THE OCTOBER 22ND MEETING OF THE HASTINGS ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.UM, WE HAVE A EXCITING AGENDA, FOUR CASES, UH, TODAY.
UM, MR. BUILDING INSPECTOR ARE ALL THE MAILINGS IN ORDER? I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY MY STAFF THAT ALL THE MAILINGS ARE IN ORDER, SIR.
UM, SO WHAT WE'LL DO TODAY IS WE'LL CALL EACH CASE, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL COME UP, UH, PRESENT THE CASE.
UH, THE BOARD WILL ASK ANY QUESTIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
UH, THEN WE WILL THROW IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC MEMBERS WANTING TO COMMENT AFTERWARDS.
THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS AND THEN VOTE, UH, ON THE, UM, ON THE APPLICATION.
UH, IF YOU DO COME TO THE MIC AT ANY POINT, PLEASE JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS IF YOU'RE A HASTINGS RESIDENT.
UH, THE FIRST CASE IS CASE NUMBER 1526.
[Case No. 14-26]
1426.BRIAN BROOKS BALLARD OF SEVEN WHITMAN STREET.
UM, DO, DO YOU WANT ME TO PLUG IN OR? YES, PLEASE.
YEAH, THERE'S THE HDMI IS RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU NEED AN ADAPTER, JUST LET ME KNOW.
MITCH KOCH IS HELPING ME WITH THIS, BUT HE HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT.
UH, I THINK I'LL BE ABLE TALK THROUGH THIS FOR YOU GUYS.
UM, WE BOUGHT A HOUSE THIS SUMMER, UH, ON WHITMAN.
IT HAD HAD SOME WORK DONE, UH, PRIOR AND IT WAS NOT PERMITTED.
SO WE ARE LOOKING TO GET IT LEGALIZED NOW OR GET A VARIANCE FOR IT.
AND, UH, WE ARE THINKING THAT IT WAS AT 51% DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE, 51.5% DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE BEFORE, UH, WHEN THEY ADDED THE DECK IN THE BACK, IT BUMPED IT UP TO 55%.
UM, I DID, WE DID A LITTLE ANALYSIS OF NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, UH, THE AVERAGE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
AND LET ME ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, AND THIS, THIS IS VERY NORMAL FOR WHITMAN.
YOU HAVE A HOUSE, A BIG DRIVEWAY THAT GOES BACK TO A GARAGE, POSSIBLY A DECK OR A PATIO AREA IN THE BACK.
SO, UH, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY HAVE AN A DU.
THE NEXT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS NEXT TO US, I THINK THEY'RE A DUPLEX TOO.
UM, AND THEY HAVE ROUGHLY 58.4% TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH IS 65.4%
UH, THERE IS A SMALL STRIP OF LAND BETWEEN FIVE AND A HALF MY SOUTH, MY SOUTHERN NEIGHBOR THAT I MAINTAIN.
IF WE ADDED THAT INTO MY TOTAL, I GUESS IT WOULD TAKE IT DOWN A FEW POINTS.
I'M SORRY, JUST TAKING A LOOK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR'S ASPHALT BACKYARD, BUT HE DOES HAVE A, UH, UH, GARAGE AT THE BASEMENT LEVEL.
SO I GUESS HE NEEDS A GOOD BIT OF TURNAROUND SPACE.
UH, THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS OVER HERE.
THEY HAVE AN A DU AND SOME PARKING PADS.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY ADDED IN A LITTLE BIT HERE.
IT, IT'S VERY TYPICAL, A LONG DRIVEWAY, A GARAGE, SOME AREA TO HANG OUT.
UM, I THINK TO THE NORTH, IT'S UH, OR WHAT IS THAT TO THE, UH, EAST IT'S EVEN WORSE OR
THEY, THEY, SOME OF THESE JUST HAVE HARDLY ANY, UH, GREEN SPACE LEFT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS FAIRLY, UH, NORMAL FOR WHITMAN STREET.
IT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD'VE, UH, BUILT MYSELF.
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THIS IS THE EXISTING RIGHT HERE OR, UH, WHAT WE HAVE.BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LINE RIGHT HERE.
THERE WAS, I THINK A PATIO OR SOMETHING IN THE BACK THAT THEY TORE DOWN AND BUILT THIS DECK OUT OVER IT.
'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE REMNANTS OF A, UH, WALL ON THIS SIDE AND THIS SIDE.
BUT THEY KIND OF TOOK DOWN THE IN BETWEEN PART THERE.
BUT FIRST WE WANT TO, UH, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET, GET THROUGH THE VARIANCE HERE.
UM, IT'S, I I THINK THAT PART OF THE REASON THEY BUILT THIS IS THAT THERE IS, UH, I WOULD SAY MY, MY LOT KIND OF SLOPES OFF A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE BACK HERE THAN MOST OF THE ONES HERE.
THERE'S A KIND OF A RETAINING WALL THAT COMES ALONG HERE, BUT THEN AT MY HOUSE, IT STARTS TO GO DOWN, UH, DOWNHILL HERE.
SO MAYBE THEY WERE THINKING THEY NEEDED A LITTLE MORE FLAT SPACE UP TOP THERE.
BUT, UH, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK.
ANYTHING ELSE? THESE ARE SOME PICTURES.
UH, WE, I AM GOING TO GET AROUND TO REDOING THE, UH, DRIVEWAY AND I AM THINKING ABOUT GOING WITH THE HOLLYWOOD DRIVE THAT WOULD BRING THE COVERAGE DOWN.
BUT, UH, I'VE GOT
UM, THIS IS FAIRLY TYPICAL, THE GARAGE IN THE BACK DRIVEWAY.
THEY HAVE A VERY NICE, UH, PATIO IN THE BACK, I WOULD SAY.
I WILL SAY THAT, UH, THE DECK VERSUS A PATIO, I KNOW, UH, DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE IS NOT PERMEABILITY, BUT THE WATER GOES THROUGH THAT DECK AND IT'S, IT'S NICE AND
I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE EXPLORATION FOR THE FOOTINGS AND, UH, IT, IT'S NOT CAUSING ANY MORE PROBLEMS THAN A PATIO OR THE EXISTING PATIO WOULD HAVE.
UH, THIS IS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
UM, HE HAS A LITTLE PATIO IN THE BACK, BUT IT'S BUILT OUT OVER, UH, THIS IS THE ONE TO THE NORTH.
I COULDN'T, COULDN'T REALLY GET BACK.
BUT, UH, THEY ARE BOTH OVER WHAT I'M PRESENTLY RIGHT NOW AT.
AND THESE ARE GUESSTIMATES, BUT, UH, 65 AND 58, I'M AT 55.
I, I, I JUST REALLY DON'T WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN AND, UH, LOSE A, A NICE SPOT AT OR COULD BE A NICE SPOT.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
UM, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST, UH, ABOUT THE GENERAL DRAWING AND, AND A FEW OTHER THINGS.
THE FIVE FEET STRIP THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MAINTAIN, IS THAT, YOU SAID YOU MAINTAIN IT OR THAT'S ACTUALLY ON YOUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE, OR IS THAT A QUESTION THAT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING I DIDN'T WANNA BRING UP, BUT THERE'S A FIVE FOOT, FIVE FOOT STRIP RESERVED.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY A, UH, MEANT TO BE SOME SORT OF CONNECTION FROM WHITMAN DOWN TO, OR KIND OF AN EASEMENT SIDE.
THERE, THERE WAS TRADITIONALLY EASEMENTS DOWN FROM WHITMAN OR WALLBERG SEWER EASEMENTS, OTHER UTILITY EASEMENTS.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT BACK IN THE DAY.
SO IT'S, SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE, BUT YOU MAINTAIN IT AS YEAH.
THE, THERE'S ALL THE WAY OVER HERE, THERE'S A CONCRETE WALL.
IT, IT'S BASICALLY THAT THE NICE GRASS STRIP HERE.
THERE'S A, THERE'S NOW A FENCE HERE, SO NO ONE CAN WALK THROUGH THERE OR I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD EVER THINK TO.
BUT, UH, BASICALLY I JUST KEEP THAT UP.
BUT EFFECTIVELY, REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP OR WHO MAINTAINS IT, IT'S EFFECTIVELY EXTRA SIDE YARD AND IT'S EFFECTIVELY UNDEVELOPABLE BULL AREA.
UM, UH, MY QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE BACK ON THE DRAWING, YOU HAVE DECK AND RAISED WOOD.
CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT HOW THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S THERE NOW SIZE-WISE AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? UM, WELL, OKAY.
UH, THIS IS WHAT THEY BUILT ON PERMITTED.
BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WAS THIS WALL HERE, RIGHT.
THAT CONNECTED OVER TO THIS WALL.
AND I THINK THAT WAS SIX, SEVEN FEET WIDE.
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I DON'T THINK IT CAME OUT BEYOND THAT, BUT THERE WAS A PLIN THERE THAT HAS BEEN TORN DOWN AND THE DECK IS OVER THAT NOW.I THINK MAYBE THE QUESTION IS, IN COMPARING THE PHOTO TO THE HISTORIC SURVEY, THE RECTANGLE THAT SAYS DECK AND THE RECTANGLE THAT SAYS RAISED WOOD ARE NOW TOGETHER.
I, THIS CAME FROM MY SURVEYOR.
I THINK IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO READ RAISED DECK.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT MEANT THAT IT WAS GOING TO EXTEND FURTHER THAN IT CURRENTLY DOES OR NO, SORRY.
LIKE ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY WHERE I WAS GOING.
I THINK WHAT THE APPLICANT'S TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WAS PROBABLY SOME TYPE OF STRUCTURE THERE, OR WHERE IT SAYS DECK THAT'S ALL WHITE.
AND THEY GOT IT, ESSENTIALLY TORE THAT DOWN AND THEN BUILT THE DECK, THE, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH ON TOP OF IT, WHICH IT'S CURRENTLY THERE NOW.
SO YOUR PLAN IS TO REPLACE THE CURRENT DECK WITH, UH, OR, OR THE PLAN IS TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THIS DECK.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE SOME FURTHER WORK TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UNDERSTOOD TO CODE.
SO, BUT WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR LEGALIZATION, I'D LIKE TO CLEAR UP THE, THIS IS A LEGALIZATION ON THIS CASE WITHOUT THAT VARIANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
UM, COULD YOU, JUST ON ONE OF YOUR DRAWINGS, THERE'S A TABULATION OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE UP COVERAGE UHHUH, COULD YOU JUST READ THROUGH THE ONES THAT ARE, UH, NOT THE HOUSE AND WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE COVERAGE IS THE LONG DRIVEWAY? OH, UH, LET'S SEE.
I'LL JUST, IT'S IN YOUR, IT'S IN ONE OF YOUR EXHIBITS.
UH, THE DRIVE IS A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
THAT DRIVE IS MORE THAN HALF OR BASICALLY HALF, LITTLE LESS THAN HALF OF THE REMAINING COVERAGE.
'CAUSE IT'S THE, IT'S THE DRIVEWAY.
TAKE THE GARAGE AND THE HOUSE OUT.
THE HOUSE AND THE DRIVEWAY ARE ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT.
THAT, THAT WAS SORT OF MY POINT.
LIKE IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY DRIVEWAY.
AND YOU SAID YOU HAD PLANS TO CHANGE THE MATERIAL OF THE DRIVEWAY.
THE DRIVEWAY IS, UH, FALLING APART, SO IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY QUITE PERMEABLE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? DID WE RECEIVE ANY MAILINGS OR LETTERS RELATED TO THIS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UH, DID WE GET ANY, I SENT EVERYTHING TO THE BOARD.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE IN REGARDS TO WHITMAN.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ATTACHED TO HERE.
UM, IS IT OKAY WITH THE BOARD IF WE GO THROUGH THE FACTORS? MM-HMM
SO, UM, AS YOU'LL HEAR PROBABLY FOUR TIMES TODAY, UM, WE USE, UH, FIVE FACTORS TO DETERMINE, UM, UH, VARIANCE REQUESTS OR EVALUATE VARIANCE REQUESTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY THE GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE? I MEAN, IT IS AN EXISTING CONDITION, SO, WELL, I, I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS, UM, LEGALIZATION, WE'RE COMPARING THE LEGAL SITUATION BEFORE.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT CREATED BY, UM, THE, THE CURRENT OWNER, I THINK YOU SORT OF INHERIT THE, UH, THE WORK DONE BY THE PREVIOUS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, STILL, NO, I THINK YOU MADE AN ARGUMENT THAT IT'S WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
TWO IS WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT BE, CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME METHOD FEASIBLE, THE, FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE OTHER THAN AN AREA OF VARIANCE, ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? NO, NO, NO.
UH, WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 15%, UM, VARIANCE ON COVERAGE.
WE WILL NOTE THAT THE LOT IS UNDERSIZED FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT'S A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT IN A 7,500 SQUARE FOOT ZONE.
SO, UM, THIS DOES TEND TO CAUSE VARIANCES.
UM, WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT.
AND WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-CREATED, UM, WHICH OF COURSE WILL NOT PRECLUDE US, UM, APPROVING THE VARIANCE, BUT IS A FACTOR, I GUESS IT IS SELF-CREATED BY THE PREVIOUS, BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER.
WELL, SELF-CREATED BY YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
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FROM SOMEONE? I'LL DO IT.UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, CASE NUMBER 1426, BRIAN BROOKS BALLARD, SEVEN WHITMAN STREET RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS.
UH, 295 DASH 69 F TWO A TO FOR THE LEGALIZATION OF AN EXISTING REAR DECK.
ALRIGHT, AND CAN WE HAVE A SECOND? I CAN SECOND.
ALRIGHT, QUICK ROLL CALL, RICHARD.
UM, APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE.
CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK.
[Case No. 15-26]
NUMBER 1526, WHICH I TRIED TO CALL EARLIER.UH, PETER AND BRITTANY WALGREEN WALGREEN, UH, 11 RIVERVIEW PLACE, UH, ON THIS CASE.
SIR, WE HAVE ONE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBOR AT 17 REVIEW PLACED IN SUPPORT.
I, I, I HAVE MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THIS CASE, UH, THERE WAS A TYPO ON THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE RES OF THE AGENDA THAT WENT OUT.
UM, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR VARIANCES ON THIS CASE.
IF YOU, I HAVE SOME COPIES OF SOME UPDATED AGENDAS ON THE TABLE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ONE.
WELL, THE ONE THAT I PRINTED FROM THE WEBSITE HAS FOUR NOW SHOWS FOUR.
HAS SEND IT YESTERDAY AFTER IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY OUR ATTORNEY.
UM, AND SO IT SHOULD BE RIGHT NOW, BUT SOME PEOPLE STILL HAVE THE OLD ONE.
BUT IT WAS MESSAGED CORRECT NOTICE, CORRECT? IT WAS NOTICE, CORRECT.
HI, I'M DONNA GUTTIN, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND THIS IS THE HOMEOWNER.
HI, I AM BRITTANY WALGREEN, 11 RIVERVIEW PLACE.
SO WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR RELIEF FROM FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS. I DID SUBMIT WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE DRAWINGS, A LITTLE SUMMARY OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND WHY WE'RE ASKING.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE MOST CONCISE IF I READ IT, BUT BEFORE I DO, IS THIS YELLOW BECAUSE OF ME OR THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? 'CAUSE THE OTHER GENTLEMAN WAS NOT YELLOW.
JUST IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO VERY WEIRD, MAKE IT WHITE.
YOU COULD TRY TO WIGGLE THE DONGLE, BUT THAT COULD ALSO RESULT IN DISASTER.
AND I GUESS WE'LL GO WITH THAT ONE.
SO, UM, BUILT IN 18 99 11 RIVERVIEW IS A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF A COLONIAL REVIVAL VICTORIAN STYLE HOME.
THE MID-BLOCK HOMES ON RIVERVIEW, I'M GONNA JUST PUT THESE ON, ARE FOR THE MOST PART QUITE LARGE RELATIVE TO THEIR LOT SIZE.
THEY WERE BUILT TO MAXIMIZE THE REAL ESTATE VALUE OF THE BLOCK, WHICH HAS RIVERVIEW AND IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO TOWN.
THE LOT SIZE OF 11 RIVERVIEW IS 6,300 SQUARE FEET.
WELL UNDER THE 7,500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE R TWO ZONE.
IT IS THE SECOND SMALLEST LOT ON THEIR BLOCK.
UM, GIVEN THE SMALL LOT SIZE AND THE EXISTING LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING ON THE LOT, THERE IS LIMITED ROOM FOR OUTDOOR DEVELOPMENT.
THE DESIGN INCLUDES A MODEST DECK SET, ONE FOOT BELOW THE FIRST FLOOR, MINIMIZING THE TRANSITION TO THE GARDEN, A HOT TUB AND A SAUNA.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE KEEN TO MAXIMIZE OUTDOOR LIVING WITH THEIR FAMILY.
THE HOT TUB AND SAUNA ARE PROPORTIONAL TO THE SMALL OUTDOOR SPACE AND ARE LOCATED TOGETHER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE REAR YARD, MAINTAINING A CONTINUOUS OPEN GARDEN SPACE AND MAXIMIZING RIVER SUNSET AND GARDEN VIEWS.
THE PROPERTY IS UNIQUE IN THAT THERE IS NO HOMEOWNER ABUTTING BOTH THE NORTH AND THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.
THE PROPERTY ABUTS HARDING WAY TO THE NORTH, A STREET AND PARKING AREA FOR HASTINGS HOUSE.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? IT'S THE APARTMENT, UH, CONDOS.
IS THAT HASTING'S HOUSE? YEAH.
AND IT ALSO ABUTS SQUIRREL WAY TO THE WEST, WHICH IS THE PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF WAY THAT GOES
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TO THE TRAIN AND TOWN.THE HOT TUB IS SET WITHIN THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK FROM THE HOUSE WHERE IT MAINTAINS THE REAR YARD SETBACK AND INTRUDES AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE INTO THE GARDEN.
AND THE SAUNA, WHICH IS SMALL, 35 SQUARE FEET AS STATED ABOVE AS MINIMAL IN SIZE AND LOCATED TO MAINTAIN SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACKS.
IT, IT REQUIRES THE 0.06 FAR VARIANCE.
UM, I DO HAVE A FEW PHOTOS, IF THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.
SO THAT'S THE VIEW FROM RIVERVIEW, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THIS IS THE VIEW WITH SQUIRREL WAY YOU CAN SEE AS THEIR NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.
AND WHICH IS AT THIS POINT A VERY HIGH HEDGE AND FENCE SEPARATING THE TWO.
ANOTHER MORE ROMANTIC VIEW OF SQUIRREL WAY
THIS IS, UH, THE STREET TO THE NORTH HARDING.
I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED HARDING WAY, ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO STREET SIGN.
UM, AND THIS IS PART OF THE EITHER RIVER GLEN OR HASTINGS HOUSE.
THIS IS FROM AN EXISTING DECK ON THE PROPERTY LOOKING EAST.
AND UM, JUST TO NOTE, THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS A DOUBLE LOT.
IT'S QUITE LARGE AND THE HOME IS ON THE EASTWARD.
SO THERE IS NO HOME THAT ABUTS DIRECTLY THIS PROPERTY.
THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, LOOKING SOUTH OF THE EXISTING DECK AND PROPERTY.
AND ANOTHER VIEW, AND THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING NORTH TO SOME OF THE REMOVALS THAT WILL, WE WILL DO, UM, TO MINIMIZE THE DEVELOPMENTAL COVERAGE.
THERE'S LIKE A VERY LARGE STONE SET OF STAIRS TO SEEMINGLY NOWHERE MM-HMM
AND, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY AN EXISTING DECK AND A LOT OF STONE WORK DOWN THE, THIS SORT OF CORRIDOR OF THE HOUSE VIEW, BEAUTIFUL VIEW THAT THEY HAVE TOWARDS THE RIVER LOOKING WEST WHERE THE DECK WILL BE FACING.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE, UM, ANY QUESTIONS UNLESS BRIT, BRI YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, I JUST, OUR, OUR DECK IS 20 YEARS OLD AND IT'S ROTTING AND WE JUST WANNA UTILIZE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN OUR YARD.
AND WE HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME HAVING GRASS GROW AND THIS CORNER, SO WE KIND OF WANNA PURPOSE THE DECK THERE AND THEN UTILIZE THE YARD JUST BETTER FOR OUR FAMILY.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA UNDERSCORE THIS.
THE CHANGE TO FAR IS THE SIMPLY THE AREA OF THE HOT TUB SAUNA.
IS THE ONLY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S A RATHER HARD, IT'S ONLY 0.006.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO FOR THE VARIANCE, WE HAVE TO CALL OUT THE FULL NUMBER.
THIS IS THE SECOND PLACE WITH AN EASEMENT NEXT TO IT THAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, AND SAID LIKE NOTHING, NO LETTERS, NEIGHBORS, EVERYTHING.
SO THERE'S ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE MOST AFFECTED NEIGHBOR.
WHICH AT 17 O OTHER THAN THAT, YOU HAVE A PRETTY UNIQUE LAYOUT IN THAT TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE THE, JUST THE PARKING LOT.
YOU HAVE SOME BUFFERS RIGHT BETWEEN THE NORTH PARKING LOT, THE WEST, UH, EASEMENT AND THE EAST DOUBLE LOT INBAR.
IT'S A DRAINAGE EASEMENT BY THE WAY.
THERE'S DRAINAGE PIPES THAT GO FROM THERE THROUGH RIVER GLEN DOWN TO THE RIVER.
AND THIS IS JUST FOR MY OWN CURIOSITY, BUT THEY PRIORITIZE THE REAR SETBACK WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE HOT TUB, PUTTING IT CLOSER TO THE HOUSE THAN THE CODE ALLOWS.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE INTENT OF CODE IS THERE.
UM, HONESTLY, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN, I, I THINK THAT THAT CODE, IT WAS MORE GEARED TOWARDS POLES.
THEY DON'T WANT THE POLE CLOSER THAN FIVE FEET TO THE HOUSE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER.
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BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY OUR CODE'S WRITTEN HOT TUBS FALLS INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS A POOL.I THINK THIS, THAT CODE WAS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SHARON, I THINK THAT CODE WAS STRICT, WAS WRITTEN MORE.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A SWIMMING POOL THAT CLOSE TO A HOUSE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS, IS IT, IT IS A VARIANCE.
THEY WANT YOU TO FENCE IT IN AND THEY WANT SOME SPACE TO BE ABLE TO, TO SECURE IT AND WHATNOT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE FROM THE PUBLIC? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT.
I WANTED TO ADD, I, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE, UM, ITEM, WHICH IS JUST SHOWING THAT THERE ARE, UM, TWO HOMES ON THE BLOCK THAT HAVE, ONE IS A SWIMMING POOL AND THE OTHER IS A, LOOKS LIKE A ELABORATE CHIMNEY BRICK SET UP, WHICH I THINK IS OLD AND HISTORIC THAT DO ABUT THE NORTH, LIKE RIGHT ON THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
JUST BECAUSE I THINK THE AGE OF THESE HOMES PREDATES ANY RULES.
SINCE YOU'RE ON THIS SLIDE, CAN YOU IDENTIFY 17 RIVERVIEW? YEAH, THAT'S THE NEIGHBOR THAT WROTE THE LETTER IN FAVOR, BUT WHICH ONE IS IT ON THE, THAT ONE? IT'S THE DOUBLE LOCK.
WELL THEN MAYBE WE'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE FACTORS.
UH, AGAIN, WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED.
WHETHER THE BENEFIT THOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME METHOD FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE? OTHER THAN THE AREA OF VARIANCE CONCERNS OR COMMENTS? NO.
UH, WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA OF VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL, CERTAINLY NOT THE 0.061.
UM, WHETHER PROPOSED VARIANCE WOULD HAVE 0.006
BUT THE WHOLE VARIANCE IS 0.116 THOUGH.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD.
UM, WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND FINALLY, WHETHER IT'S SELF-CREATED OF WHICH WE RECOGNIZE IT IS, BUT REASONABLY SO.
UM, ALRIGHT, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I CAN MAKE A MOTION, UM, IN MOTION TO APPROVE IN THE CASE NUMBER, UH, 15 DASH 26 PETER AND BRITTANY WALBURN.
11 RIVERVIEW PLACE, UM, RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH 52 A 2 95 DASH 53 1 2 95, 70 E ONE B WITH 2 95 DASH 20 B, UH, EXCUSE ME, 20 B6 AND 2 95, 70 0.3 A TWO FOR A PROPOSED SAUNA HOT TUB AND REAR DECK AT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT 11 RIVERVIEW PLACE.
[Case No. 16-26]
WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 1626, FRANCIS GREENBERG OF SIX BEL AIR DRIVE.THIS PROJECT FALLS INTO THE CATEGORY OF, UM, IT'S WHEN A A WHEN A STRUCTURE IS BEYOND, UH, REPAIR AND IT, IT'S, UH, EFFECTS OF, IT'S CALLED EFFECTS OF SERIES DAMAGE.
WHEN IT'S OVER 50%, WHICH THIS IS THE CASE, THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE HAS TO COME DOWN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GETTING REBUILT EXACTLY ON THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
IT HAS TO REGET, IT HAS TO RE GET REAPPROVED AGAIN.
BUT IT'S COMPLETELY INKIND, RIGHT? IT'S COMPLETELY INKIND ACTUALLY IT'S SHORTER, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY UNKIND.
THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S PRESENTING YOUR CASE HERE.
SOME PEOPLE MAY ASK IF IT'S GOING BACK, BACK UP IN THE SAME PLACE, WHY DOES IT NEED A VARIANCE AGAIN? AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT COMES IN THE EFFECTS OF SERIOUS DAMAGE.
BUT IT'S ALSO NOT TECHNICALLY A, A CONTINUATION OF A NON-CONFORMING CONDITION.
IT'S TAKING YOU OFFLINE WHILE I GET THIS SETTLED UP.
IT'S A VERY TEMPERAMENTAL DONGLE.
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SOMEBODY SHOULD DO THAT.UH, WORD SEARCH ON THE MINUTES FOR THE WORD DONGLE.
MY NAME IS KATHY SULLIVAN AND I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, JIM QUINN OF MURRAY ENGINEERING IS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING, BUT HE'S NOT HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
FRANCIS GREENBERG IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR 44 YEARS.
SHE AND HER HUSBAND ROBERT KLEINER, LIVED AT SIX BE AIR DRIVE.
THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT BEFORE, BECAUSE THEY RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME BAD NEWS.
THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER ADVISED THEM THAT THEIR GARAGE MUST BE TAKEN DOWN.
THERE'S EXISTING STONE GARAGES DETERIORATED FROM AGE AND WATER DAMAGE.
THERE'S SPING CONCRETE CRACKING THE FIELD, STONE WALLS AND ROOF DRAINS THAT WERE COVERED UP BY, UH, ROOFING MATERIAL.
OH, KATHY, UM, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST TRY TO TALK AS INTO THE MIC AS BEST YOU CAN? ABSOLUTELY.
I'LL BRING IT DOWN TO MY HEIGHT.
THESE ARE SOME BLOWUPS OF PICTURES OF THE PERTINENT REPAIRS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
MS. GREENBERG WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THE EXISTING GARAGE WITH ONE THAT'S IN THE SAME LOCATION AND HAS THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
THE FLAT ROOF ACCESSORY BUILDING CAN BE 12 FEET HIGH.
THE EXISTING BUILDING, HOWEVER, IS A NON-COMPLIANT 12 AND A HALF FEET.
THE NEW GARAGE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 11 FEET TALL, SO IT'LL BE CONFORMANCE YOU'RE THE PROPOSED DRAWINGS.
MY CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THE GARAGE WITH A CONCRETE BUILDING WITH A FLAT ROOF.
THE ROOF IS NOT, ROOF IS NOT INTENDED TO BE OCCUPIED.
THE PROPERTY IS AT BELLARD DRIVE NORTH OF EUCLID AVENUE NEAR THE DOBBS HASTINGS FERRY, DOBBS FERRY BORDER.
HERE IN LARGE PLANS OF THE PROPERTY, THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS IN THE EXISTING LOT DIMENSIONS ARE MISMATCHED.
AND OUR 10, THE LOT AREA IS AT 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
LOT WIDTH IS A HUNDRED HUNDRED FEET.
THE EXISTING AREA IS 8,500 SQUARE FEET AND THE EXISTING WIDTH IS 53.
TOPOGRAPHY ALSO IS VERY STEEP, AND THEIR HOUSE IS PHYSICALLY LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINES THROUGH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.
AND THEIR GARAGE IS QUITE CLOSE TO THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBOR'S LOT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE SECOND ONE, THE RIGHT PLAN.
THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE SETBACKS FOR BOTH THE PRINCIPAL HOME AND ACCESSORY BUILDING.
NO WORK IS PROPOSED FOR THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING.
TWO OF THE THREE REQUESTED VARIANCES CONCERN THE SETBACKS IN THE FRONT AND SIDE YARDS.
THE ACCESSORY SETBACKS ARE LESS THAN THE 10 FEET REQUIRED EXCUSE EIGHT FEET REQUIRED.
THE THIRD VARIANCE IS RELATED TO THE REBUILDING A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE AFTER SEVERE DAMAGES.
AND THIS IS, UH, THE CODE, THAT SECTION THAT THAT'S CONSIDERING BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER SERIOUS DAMAGE.
AND, UH, BUDDY HAD AND I LOOKED AT THE SECTION THAT HELPS, UH, UM, THE ABILITY TO APPROVE REBUILDING, UH, STRUCTURE IN THE SAME LOCATION.
SO REGARDING THE EFFECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE FACTORS.
UM, THE NE GARAGE WILL BE IN THE SAME LOCATION AND HAVE SIMILAR MASSING AS THE CURRENT ONE.
UM, THE X ON THE PHOTOGRAPH TO THE LEFT SHOWS WHERE THE GARAGE IS, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE IT IS TO ITS NEIGHBOR AND THE HILL THAT IT'S IN.
YOU CAN, UM, THE OTHER TWO PICTURES SHOW VIEWS TOWARDS THE GARAGE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH ON BEL AIR DRIVE.
AND THE VIEW FROM THE NORTH, WHICH IS IN THE BOTTOM.
UM, IT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE GARAGE IS VERY HARD TO SEE.
THE STAIRS YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, EXCUSE ME, UM, ARE THE STAIRS UP TO THE CLIENT? MY CLIENT'S HOUSE THE WRONG DIRECTION.
SO LOOKING AT THE FACTORS, THE PROPOSED GARAGE WILL REPLACE THE ORIGINAL GARAGE AND FOOTPRINT LOCATION, BUT WITH COMPLIANT HEIGHT, IT WON'T, WON'T HAVE ANY OF IT, WON'T INCREASE THE ITS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.
THE VARIANCES ARE SUBSTANTIAL, BUT THEY'RE NOT SELF-CREATED THAT THIS LOT IS UNDERSIZED FOR THE
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ZONING ZONING AREA.AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FRANCIS, UM, SHARE THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT SHE'S HAD WITH HER NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES ADJACENT TO IT.
UM, SO I'M FRANCIS GREENBERG, THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE AT SIX BEL AIR DRIVE.
AND, UM, I DO WANNA SAY JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE THING, UM, WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE 44 YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, UH, THE GARAGE LEAKED AND I DID NOT THINK THAT IT WAS A PROBLEM.
UM, THE GARAGE LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BUILT, BEEN BUILT FOR THE AGES.
AND OVER THE YEARS I'VE HAD REPAIRS, MADE A NEW ROOF, VARIOUS MASONRY THINGS DONE, AND THE LEAKS HAVE NOT STOPPED.
UM, I SUSPECT THAT, UM, A TEAM OF MASONS WENT THROUGH THE VILLAGE IN THE THIRTIES AND THEY BUILT VERY SIMILAR GARAGES BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT GARAGES THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE AND THEY ALL LOOK LIKE THAT MANY LOOK LIKE THIS.
AND MANY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY THE KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT KATHY PROPOSES.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, THE WATER DAMAGE HAS BEEN INEXORABLE, IT'S ON A SLOPE TO SUBGRADE WALLS AND THERE'S NOTHING, UM, THAT CAN BE DONE.
SO, UM, AND THE OTHER THING I WANNA SAY IS IF NOTHING WERE DONE, IF IT WERE JUST TAKEN DOWN, WHICH IT HAS TO BE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S CURRENTLY FORGING ON A DANGER.
SO WE NEED, IT'S GOT TO BE TAKEN DOWN.
BUT IF IT WEREN'T, IF IT WEREN'T REPLACED, YOU KIND OF HAVE A PARKING LOT, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN MY NEIGHBOR WITH THEIR DRIVEWAY AND THEN I WOULD HAVE AN OFF THE STREET PARKING SPOT AND IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A PARKING LOT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS I HAVE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS, OR YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS.
YOU HAVE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS, UM, ONE FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.
THE, MY GARAGE IS LIKE ONE FOOT AND ONE INCH AWAY FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEY ARE FINE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, REBUILD.
AND THE OTHER IS THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, SETH AND HELENE GOLDEN SHOULD HAVE, UM, COMMUNICATED TO YOU THAT THEY ARE ALSO IN FAVOR.
SO THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER ONE OF US.
WE'RE GLAD TO ANSWER OR BOB, YOU KNOW,
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NOTHING.
NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HASTINGS IS LIKE 44 YEARS AGO.
BUT, UM, WELL I THINK, UM, THIS IS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION.
YOU, UH, COMPLIMENTS TO YOUR ARCHITECT WHO PRESENTED THE FIVE FACTORS FOR US
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TO HEAR US DRONE ON ABOUT THEM.
UM, BUT MAYBE I'LL JUST ASK COLLECTIVELY IF ANYONE HAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THE FACTORS AS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT IN THAT CASE.
UM, MAY WE HAVE A MOTION? I'M SORRY.
IS A PUBLIC HEARING OPENED? UH, I'LL DO IT ONE SECOND.
I CAN SEE THERE'S NO, UM, I I, MY APOLOGIES.
I NOTICED THAT A, A SMALL MISTAKE WAS MADE ON THE EXISTING SETBACKS.
UM, THE NUMBER WAS COVERED UP BY A TEXT.
I'LL JUST BRING IT TO YOU PAT.
YOU HAVE TO SPEAK INTO A MICROPHONE.
IF YOU LOOK HERE AT THE GARAGE, WE SHOWED 0 1 0 0.0772 IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE LOT LINE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY FOR A BUILDING THAT IS NO LONGER, HERE WE ARE THIS ONE, WHICH IS 1.15.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL AND THANK YOU.
I THINK, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER SIR? UH, THE CORRECT NUMBER IS, OOH, YOU ASKED THE WRONG GUY.
IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE THAT TO ME, BUT NONE.
NONETHELESS, I THINK THE BOARD IS BASING THEIR, UM, DECISION ON THAT THAT'S BEING REPLACED IN THE EXACT FOOTPRINT.
SO IS THAT THE SMALLER VARIANCE? MM-HMM
UM, I NEGLECTED TO ASK IF THERE WAS ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANTED TO SPEAK.
NOW MAY WE HAVE A MOTION
HOPEFULLY THE NEW GARAGE IS COYOTE PROOF.
THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME CHANGES IN THE LAST 44 YEARS.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER 16
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DASH 26, FRANCIS GREENBERG.BE AIR DRIVE, UH, RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH SIX EIGHT F1 A C WITH 2 95 DASH 60 C2 FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF AN EXISTING GARAGE AT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT SIX BAILOR DRIVE.
UH, WELL I KNOW IT'S NOT EXCITING TO GET PERMISSION TO BUILD SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD
UH, AND IF YOU WANT THESE BACK HERE, THERE.
[Case No. 17-26]
THE FINAL CASE FOR THE EVENING IS 1726 REBI AND JESSE BOROUGH.UM, AS THEY'RE SETTING UP, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS AND I DO KNOW THEM.
UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION AND WE HAVE NOT, UM, OUR FAMILY HAS NOT SENT IN ANY LETTERS OR GIVEN ANY OPINION ABOUT THIS.
DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN REMAIN IMPARTIAL IN THIS APPLICATION? I DO BELIEVE.
I'M THE ARCHITECT AND RAVI AND JESS ARE HERE.
UH, THIS ONE SHOULD BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT WE'LL SEE.
SO WE HAVE AN AREA OF VARIANCE REQUEST.
UH, THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH IS RIGHT OVER HERE.
WE'RE PROPOSING AN ADDITION TO THIS HOUSE.
HOWEVER, WE'VE RUN INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM DURING THE DESIGN PHASE WHERE ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, SO THIS IS WHERE THIS ARROW'S POINTING RIGHT THERE.
THAT LITTLE ORANGE TRIANGLE, THAT LITTLE ORANGE TRIANGLE RIGHT THERE, UM, IS WHERE THE HOUSE CURRENTLY IS OUT OF BOUNDS.
SO IT'S UNFORTUNATELY OUT OF BOUNDS ON ITS SETBACKS BY JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND IT IS 4.5 SQUARE FEET, THOSE 4.5 SQUARE FEET.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WHEN WE ARE PROPOSING OUR ADDITION, IF WE WERE TO GO STRAIGHT UP, WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT AN WEIRD SHAPED NOTCH, NOT EVEN A PROPER TRIANGLE.
UH, WE'D HAVE TO CUT OUT A WEIRD SHAPE NOTCH RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR STRUCTURAL REASONS.
IT WOULD, UM, PRESENT, UM, COMPLEXITIES IN BUILDING THE ADDITION.
IT WOULD BE, UH, MORE EXPENSIVE AND UM, ULTIMATELY NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THIS IS ALSO A RENDERING BY THE WAY, OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE OVERHANG THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY, UH, IS THREE FEET, WHICH IS ALSO, UH, OUT OF BOUNDS.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO BRING IT BACK TO THE NORMAL TWO FEET.
UH, SO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLIANT THAN WHAT IT'S NOW.
UM, THE FIVE POINTS, UM, DOES IT, UH, HAVE ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CHARACTER OR CHANGE OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT? THERE'S NO CHANGE.
IT'S THE SAME FOOTPRINT AND IT'S THE SAME SCALE.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER FEASIBLE METHODS? NOT REALLY.
THERE'S ONLY THAT NOTCH, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF STRANGE, WHICH WOULD KIND OF HARM THE DESIGN AND THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THIS IS THE VIEW FROM SUNSET STREET THAT YOU WOULD GET.
IT'S SHIELDED ENTIRELY BY FOLIAGE AND TREES.
AND REALLY THE PART THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WAY BACK HERE.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE STREET.
UH, IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL, NO, IT'S FOUR AND A HALF SQUARE FEET AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A PREEXISTING CONDITION.
SO THAT WOULD INCREASE ITS NON-CONFORMITY.
UH, WILL IT HAVE ANY PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS? UH, NOT REALLY.
UH, DRAINAGE, GRADING, LIGHTING, AIR, ALL OF THAT STAYS UNCHANGED.
AND FINALLY, IS IT SELF-CREATED? NOPE.
UH, THE CORONERS PREDATE THE OWNERS.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, UH, BUILD THIS NICE HOUSE AND NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BUNCH OF STRUCTURAL WEIRD THINGS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THERE'S A DECK SHOWN IN THE RENDERING.
JUST THAT, UM, THAT HAS NOTHING THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, COMPLIANT BASED ON HOW WE'RE DOING THAT IN OUR APPLICATION, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
YEAH, THERE'S AN EXISTING DECK.
NOW THIS IS ACTUALLY A SMALLER, YOU HAVE TO TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND YOU HAVE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
I'M SORRY, JESSE BOROUGH, THE OWNER AT ONE SUNSET STREET.
UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING DECK THAT IS, UH, LARGER.
SO THIS, UM, THIS IS A SMALLER, IT'S LIKE A REDUCTION IN THE SIZE OF THE DECK.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY, UM, LETTERS IN SUPPORT OR, I DON'T HAVE
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ANY FOR THIS APPLICATION, SIR.UH, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYBODY LEFT FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYBE ONE NOTE.
ADDING A FLOOR AND THEREFORE INCREASING AN EXISTING NON-COMPLIANCE IS STILL TECHNICALLY CREATE, SELF-CREATED.
UM, EVEN THOUGH MOST THINGS ARE JUST WANTED TO TO TO MENTION THAT, THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, TO THE SITE PLAN FOR A MOMENT? SURE.
THIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH YOUR APPLICATION, BUT WE'VE BEEN ON A RUN OF CORNER LOTS, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW SESSIONS AND I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, I NEVER REALIZED THAT THIS HAS A UNIQUE STRATEGY OF FACING NEITHER STREET
SO AGAIN, I THINK IT, IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE USUAL CORNER LOT PROBLEMS THAT WE DEAL WITH AND HAS THIS RELATIVELY, UM, ESOTERIC ONE AT THE BACK.
BUT IT IS ALL, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY THE WAY THAT SUNSET AND EDGEWOOD MEET THERE.
THEY KIND OF HAVE LIKE ACCESS TO BOTH OF THOSE ROADS AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UM, WELL AGAIN, THE UM, UM, APPLICANT INCLUDED THE FACTORS WHICH WE APPRECIATE AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE CLARIFICATION THAT, THAT YOU MADE BRIAN ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, WE, IT ISN'T, IT IS A, IF IT WAS JUST A REPLACEMENT OF A ONE STORY BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.
BUT WE ARE CONTINUING A NON-CONFORMING CONDITION INTO A SECOND STORY.
SO THAT I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ADJUSTMENT.
BUT NONETHELESS, UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE FACTORS? I DO NOT.
UM, MAY WE HAVE A MOTION? ANYBODY WILLING? THE LAST OF THE NIGHT? EVERYONE DID ONE SO FAR.
SO, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER 17 DASH 26 RE AND JESSE YARBOROUGH ONE SUNSET STREET RELIEF FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE VILLAGE CODE SECTIONS 2 95 DASH 68 F1 C 2 95 DASH 55 A AND 2 95 DASH 20 B ONE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO STORY EDITION ON THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED AT ONE SUNSET STREET.
APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE.
[Approval of Minutes]
ORDER OF BUSINESS.WE'VE GOT A BIG STACK OF MINUTES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE HERE TO APPROVE THEM.
I DON'T KNOW,
SO WE CAN'T APPROVE JULY
UH, DO YOU HAVE THE ATTENDANCE FROM AUGUST BUDDY? NO, I DO NOT.
WHO WAS HERE IN AUGUST? I WAS HERE IN AUGUST.
UM, YES YOU WERE, YOU WERE ON THE LIST.
UM, RICHARD, SO ARE YOU
YEAH, WE WERE BACK BY THAT POINT.
WE WERE GOING FOR THE FIRST THREE WEEKS, NOT THE, AND JOSH.
SO WE CAN'T DO SEPTEMBER EITHER.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO AUGUST.
I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S THE SAME FOUR THAT ARE HERE.
UM, OKAY, WELL AUGUST WAS THE PART, ONE OF THE, THAT'S RIGHT.
IS THAT THE ONE PART WHERE, WHERE YOU SAID I SHOULD READ IT 'CAUSE I WE WERE LIKE MISQUOTED.
YEAH, I DIDN'T, SHOULD I OH, PERFECT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD THEM ON THE MINUTES WAS SORRY.
JOSH, BRETT, RICHARD, AND BRIAN.
SO YOU GUYS CAN APPROVE AUGUST, JUST NOT JULY OR SEPTEMBER.
I THINK AUGUST WAS JUST THE ONE THAT I FLAGGED.
THERE WAS SOME MISATTRIBUTING OF FEMALE VOICES.
THAT'S GONNA BE JUST A CONSISTENT PROBLEM WE HAVE BECAUSE WE USE A DIRECT VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE MINUTES.
SO WE JUST KINDA LET THAT ALL GOOD.
I I DO HAVE, I STILL HAVE THAT MATHEMATICAL OBJECTION THAT IT WOULD BE GOING ON RECORD IN A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, NOT BEING ABLE TO ADD NUMBERS.
IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL ME ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES, I'LL,
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WE CAN CHANGE THE MINUTES AND OKAY.CAN WE APPROVE IT TODAY THOUGH? SUBJECT TO THAT CHANGE? WITH THE SUBJECT TO THE CHANGE.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE CHANGE THAT UM, BRIAN CAN DO MATH.
I DON'T HAVE TO SECOND TO BRIAN'S MATH.
BRIAN'S MATH
WERE YOU HERE BRETT? I WAS HERE.
[Announcements]
WE DO HAVE THE THANKSGIVING BREAK AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMBINED HOLIDAY MEETING.NEXT MEETING IS DECEMBER 3RD, CORRECT.
I TO BELIEVE IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE.
AND WE HAVE TWO CASES SO FAR AND IT LOOKS LIKE A THIRD ONE COMING IN.
UM, ANYTHING, ANYBODY ELSE? MOTION TO ADJOURN? ANYONE MOTION TO UH, TO ADJOURN? ALL A SECOND.
I THINK WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.